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culdeus, in one of your moments of clarity when the fog of alcohol & the meds are at a low point, let me know what the next steps are for the 1 cannon account. TH7, will have dragons in another day or so, plan to immediately upgrade to lvl2 after balloon upgrade finishes. Need to get dark barracks & storage, BK? Next move to go to TH8? No rush because I'm a good week or two away from lvl2 dragons.
Which one is yours?

I'd probably go ahead and make sure you are camp at 200 and get 2 barracks to drags and the other to at least one step away from drags. TH8 is pretty useless for a one cannon the only big upgrade you get access to is L3 drags and 25 spots in your clan castle, that's it. TH7 has alot of stuff you can get that will have value later. I probably should have stayed at TH7 longer and blown thru TH8 had I had to do over again.

After L2 drags finish then try to get barch to L4 if you have the time, but this is optional.

Dark barracks are optional at this point unless elixer is overflowing. Minions do help build faster armies, however.

BK is a must, but can be done at TH8 a little easier because war loot can bring in BK quickly.
Rrn1cannon in fbgs1. This boost has amplified the build up of this base tenfold at sub200. At the rate I am generating elixir I'm considering taking all the barracks to dragon. I'll be swimming in gold, upgrading walls ok or does it defeat the purpose? I upgraded them all to gold out of boredom and am going to focus on collectors now.

 
culdeus, in one of your moments of clarity when the fog of alcohol & the meds are at a low point, let me know what the next steps are for the 1 cannon account. TH7, will have dragons in another day or so, plan to immediately upgrade to lvl2 after balloon upgrade finishes. Need to get dark barracks & storage, BK? Next move to go to TH8? No rush because I'm a good week or two away from lvl2 dragons.
Which one is yours?

I'd probably go ahead and make sure you are camp at 200 and get 2 barracks to drags and the other to at least one step away from drags. TH8 is pretty useless for a one cannon the only big upgrade you get access to is L3 drags and 25 spots in your clan castle, that's it. TH7 has alot of stuff you can get that will have value later. I probably should have stayed at TH7 longer and blown thru TH8 had I had to do over again.

After L2 drags finish then try to get barch to L4 if you have the time, but this is optional.

Dark barracks are optional at this point unless elixer is overflowing. Minions do help build faster armies, however.

BK is a must, but can be done at TH8 a little easier because war loot can bring in BK quickly.
Rrn1cannon in fbgs1. This boost has amplified the build up of this base tenfold at sub200. At the rate I am generating elixir I'm considering taking all the barracks to dragon. I'll be swimming in gold, upgrading walls ok or does it defeat the purpose? I upgraded them all to gold out of boredom and am going to focus on collectors now.
Walls don't matter much, just build all the flags and decorations so you can sell them back later for some extra gold when you need it for the clan castle.

 
culdeus, in one of your moments of clarity when the fog of alcohol & the meds are at a low point, let me know what the next steps are for the 1 cannon account. TH7, will have dragons in another day or so, plan to immediately upgrade to lvl2 after balloon upgrade finishes. Need to get dark barracks & storage, BK? Next move to go to TH8? No rush because I'm a good week or two away from lvl2 dragons.
Which one is yours?

I'd probably go ahead and make sure you are camp at 200 and get 2 barracks to drags and the other to at least one step away from drags. TH8 is pretty useless for a one cannon the only big upgrade you get access to is L3 drags and 25 spots in your clan castle, that's it. TH7 has alot of stuff you can get that will have value later. I probably should have stayed at TH7 longer and blown thru TH8 had I had to do over again.

After L2 drags finish then try to get barch to L4 if you have the time, but this is optional.

Dark barracks are optional at this point unless elixer is overflowing. Minions do help build faster armies, however.

BK is a must, but can be done at TH8 a little easier because war loot can bring in BK quickly.
Rrn1cannon in fbgs1. This boost has amplified the build up of this base tenfold at sub200. At the rate I am generating elixir I'm considering taking all the barracks to dragon. I'll be swimming in gold, upgrading walls ok or does it defeat the purpose? I upgraded them all to gold out of boredom and am going to focus on collectors now.
Walls don't matter much, just build all the flags and decorations so you can sell them back later for some extra gold when you need it for the clan castle.
Huh... Learn something new everyday. Is the re-sale full value, or half?

 
culdeus, in one of your moments of clarity when the fog of alcohol & the meds are at a low point, let me know what the next steps are for the 1 cannon account. TH7, will have dragons in another day or so, plan to immediately upgrade to lvl2 after balloon upgrade finishes. Need to get dark barracks & storage, BK? Next move to go to TH8? No rush because I'm a good week or two away from lvl2 dragons.
Which one is yours?

I'd probably go ahead and make sure you are camp at 200 and get 2 barracks to drags and the other to at least one step away from drags. TH8 is pretty useless for a one cannon the only big upgrade you get access to is L3 drags and 25 spots in your clan castle, that's it. TH7 has alot of stuff you can get that will have value later. I probably should have stayed at TH7 longer and blown thru TH8 had I had to do over again.

After L2 drags finish then try to get barch to L4 if you have the time, but this is optional.

Dark barracks are optional at this point unless elixer is overflowing. Minions do help build faster armies, however.

BK is a must, but can be done at TH8 a little easier because war loot can bring in BK quickly.
Rrn1cannon in fbgs1. This boost has amplified the build up of this base tenfold at sub200. At the rate I am generating elixir I'm considering taking all the barracks to dragon. I'll be swimming in gold, upgrading walls ok or does it defeat the purpose? I upgraded them all to gold out of boredom and am going to focus on collectors now.
Walls don't matter much, just build all the flags and decorations so you can sell them back later for some extra gold when you need it for the clan castle.
Huh... Learn something new everyday. Is the re-sale full value, or half?
I think it's more like 25%. This is a protip I picked up from the one cannon clan I spent about a week in. But keep in mind it isn't raidable, you can't steal flags.

 
In Boog the war is going well. Once again, our strong th6 (25/25), has been attacked FIVE times and has yielded only one star. I am strongly considering leaving it at th6 forever, just for war purposes. Thoughts?

 
Boog won the war against AFG's 2, 59-39.

**** We are going to declare another war in an hour if anyone wants to jump in.****

Its unscheduled, but guys are up for it in chat. Most are home tomorrow anyway.

 
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Boog won the war against AFG's 2, 59-39.

**** We are going to declare another war in an hour if anyone wants to jump in.****

Its unscheduled, but guys are up for it in chat. Most are home tomorrow anyway.
To be clear, if Quatro war hasn't ended I can't join another?

 
I'll wait. Tell us here and in boog chat as soon as its over. Tell your guys to hop over if they want asap. So 10:00 pm declare it looks like.

 
Well then, never mind. Request denied and banned from Boog!
Come on over to fbgs. We need 1 more to get to 35 and to knock out the bottom 3 from the matchmaking(all 1 cannons).
Just opened up the clan, come on over.
I gotta head to Boog. Matchups like that would be no fun and neither would hitting a farming clan. I've spent my time at the bottom of the barrel in wars not being able to get a star any where. It sucks.

 
Well then, never mind. Request denied and banned from Boog!
Come on over to fbgs. We need 1 more to get to 35 and to knock out the bottom 3 from the matchmaking(all 1 cannons).
Just opened up the clan, come on over.
I gotta head to Boog. Matchups like that would be no fun and neither would hitting a farming clan. I've spent my time at the bottom of the barrel in wars not being able to get a star any where. It sucks.
Completely understandable. We're not a very attractive option for th7 at this point. Don't see that ever changing unless we can get 10 or 15 of them to join at once. It is what it is at this point.

 
Catching up war logs.

I missed a Boog result. What do you have for clan name and score betwee these two in your war log (in chat, Click the "i" and then click War Log).

FBG2:ElecBoog 78 - clark clashers 90 (12/19/2014)

FBG2:ElecBoog 59 - AFGs 39 (12/31/2014)
Honda do you have anything after this:

FBG3: *Honda* 106 - Killer Squad 107 (12/19/2014)
FBG1 missing a couple. What do you have after these;

fbgs 113 - Virtus Honoris 21 (12/9/2014)
fbgs 96 - American Savage 101 (12/12/2014)
 
Catching up war logs.

I missed a Boog result. What do you have for clan name and score betwee these two in your war log (in chat, Click the "i" and then click War Log).

FBG2:ElecBoog 78 - clark clashers 90 (12/19/2014)

FBG2:ElecBoog 59 - AFGs 39 (12/31/2014)
Honda do you have anything after this:

FBG3: *Honda* 106 - Killer Squad 107 (12/19/2014)
FBG1 missing a couple. What do you have after these;

fbgs 113 - Virtus Honoris 21 (12/9/2014)

fbgs 96 - American Savage 101 (12/12/2014)
Not pretty.

Rupp arena 88 fbgs 82

Boca juniors 85 fbgs 72

Chinese 105 fbgs 108

Dragon khmer 66 fbgs 73

Sinag 77 fbgs 76

Chinese 86 fbgs 84

Black minion 77 fbgs 76

 
I think the cause of FBG1's match up problems has been pretty well known for awhile. Multiple members of FBG1 have agreed it's the cause. It was a problem at 50 before, thinking that returning there is going to make everything better without doing anything else is Einstein's definition of insanity.

But any attempts to help get it fixed get rebuffed. I don't know what to do but shrug at this point.

 
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I think the cause of FBG1's match up problems has been pretty well known for awhile. Multiple members of FBG1 have agreed it's the cause. It was a problem at 50 before, thinking that returning there is going to make everything better without doing anything else is Einstein's definition of insanity.

But any attempts to help get it fixed get rebuffed. I don't know what to do but shrug at this point.
What was your solution?

 
thecatch said:
I think the cause of FBG1's match up problems has been pretty well known for awhile. Multiple members of FBG1 have agreed it's the cause. It was a problem at 50 before, thinking that returning there is going to make everything better without doing anything else is Einstein's definition of insanity.

But any attempts to help get it fixed get rebuffed. I don't know what to do but shrug at this point.
What was your solution?
Balance the TH levels so you don't have as big of a glut of bases at TH9. Beerguzzler added that he thought part of the problem is that so many were upper level TH9 while there aren't many TH10 which I gather is increasing the chances of being outnumbered by TH10s.

When most targets are TH9s who aren't terrible to 2-star but really hard to 3-star, then the effect on the scoreboard of the skill of the attacker is minimized. If he can't get better than a lesser attacker would, then it doesn't matter if we're better attackers, it comes down to the whim of the match up. If there's more variation in bases, then if we have more skill in attacking that can turn into an extra star on the scoreboard when we have more targets to deal with than just upper level TH9s.

FBG4 this war had 2 true TH10 and 2 non-inferno TH10. 8 true TH9s and 2 more under-leveled ones. 7 TH8. 4 TH7. 2 TH6. 3 TH5.

FBG1 doesn't have to go down to TH5. But between the two clans I have to believe we could come up with a mix that gives FBG1 better variation and gets them match ups where our ability to out-attack most opponents will show through.

It isn't like this is something untested. It's what FBG1 was before everyone leveled up and the problems started, and it's what FBG4 is doing now with success.

 
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thecatch said:
I think the cause of FBG1's match up problems has been pretty well known for awhile. Multiple members of FBG1 have agreed it's the cause. It was a problem at 50 before, thinking that returning there is going to make everything better without doing anything else is Einstein's definition of insanity.

But any attempts to help get it fixed get rebuffed. I don't know what to do but shrug at this point.
What was your solution?
Balance the TH levels so you don't have as big of a glut of bases at TH9. Beerguzzler added that he thought part of the problem is that so many were upper level TH9 while there aren't many TH10 which I gather is increasing the chances of being outnumbered by TH10s.

When most targets are TH9s who aren't terrible to 2-star but really hard to 3-star, then the effect on the scoreboard of the skill of the attacker is minimized. If he can't get better than a lesser attacker would, then it doesn't matter if we're better attackers, it comes down to the whim of the match up. If there's more variation in bases, then if we have more skill in attacking that can turn into an extra star on the scoreboard when we have more targets to deal with than just upper level TH9s.

FBG4 this war had 2 true TH10 and 2 non-inferno TH10. 8 true TH9s and 2 more under-leveled ones. 7 TH8. 4 TH7. 2 TH6. 3 TH5.

FBG1 doesn't have to go down to TH5. But between the two clans I have to believe we could come up with a mix that gives FBG1 better variation and gets them match ups where our ability to out-attack most opponents will show through.

It isn't like this is something untested. It's what FBG1 was before everyone leveled up and the problems started, and it's what FBG4 is doing now with success.
Well, we all know about the matchmaking issues. Pointing that out isn't a solution. The problem is actually getting the more even distribution of bases. Many of the TH9s in FBG1 want to war more than 2x a week, or want to benefit from the awesome donation levels in FBG1, so there isn't interest in moving to the other clans. The lower level guys in other clans don't seem to want to join FBG1 for whatever reasons, despite our constant campaigning here on the board. That's the real problem.

 
We added 10 random members between at levels between 12-25. Made wars so much easier. We now battle at 45 with about 30 regulars. We used to get about 10 Th10s and 15 TH9s, now it is closer to 3 and 10. Bringing down the average has helped a ton.

 
thecatch said:
I think the cause of FBG1's match up problems has been pretty well known for awhile. Multiple members of FBG1 have agreed it's the cause. It was a problem at 50 before, thinking that returning there is going to make everything better without doing anything else is Einstein's definition of insanity.

But any attempts to help get it fixed get rebuffed. I don't know what to do but shrug at this point.
What was your solution?
Balance the TH levels so you don't have as big of a glut of bases at TH9. Beerguzzler added that he thought part of the problem is that so many were upper level TH9 while there aren't many TH10 which I gather is increasing the chances of being outnumbered by TH10s.

When most targets are TH9s who aren't terrible to 2-star but really hard to 3-star, then the effect on the scoreboard of the skill of the attacker is minimized. If he can't get better than a lesser attacker would, then it doesn't matter if we're better attackers, it comes down to the whim of the match up. If there's more variation in bases, then if we have more skill in attacking that can turn into an extra star on the scoreboard when we have more targets to deal with than just upper level TH9s.

FBG4 this war had 2 true TH10 and 2 non-inferno TH10. 8 true TH9s and 2 more under-leveled ones. 7 TH8. 4 TH7. 2 TH6. 3 TH5.

FBG1 doesn't have to go down to TH5. But between the two clans I have to believe we could come up with a mix that gives FBG1 better variation and gets them match ups where our ability to out-attack most opponents will show through.

It isn't like this is something untested. It's what FBG1 was before everyone leveled up and the problems started, and it's what FBG4 is doing now with success.
Greg - completely agree. But the 3x war clan isn't the place where the th5-7 guys seem to be congregating lately. They are always more than welcome.

 
Just spitballin.'

1) Start a sign-up sheet for all players willing to be distributed between FBGs and FBG4 in the name of balancing. Endlessly mock, give poor fantasy advice to, and embargo troop donations to those members who do not sign up. Or, simply treat those people as fixed players in whatever clan they're in and work around them.

2) Re-distribute existing FBGs and FBG4 members to balance out each clan (roughly).

3) Both FBGs and FBG4 war twice a week, and at the same time. Those wishing to war a third time can do so in Boog, which (ideally) would be willing to adjust war time to the not-FBGs-FBG4 war days. Or Honda, I'm not sure if they are still doing the 20 vs. 20 thing or whatever. Players departing for those wars will be guaranteed their spot back come war kick-off time. People looking to migrate from Boog/Honda for FBGs/FBG4 wars can still do so, we'll just have to pay some kind of attention to where the best place for them to go is. Maybe even keep a public roster and simply color code it (late TH9's are purple, TH7's are green, etc.).

I understand many people want to war 3 times, but I wonder how long that will continue with a sub-.500 winning %. I also understand the donations in FBG, but having spent a lot of time in FBGs myself, I find FBG4 nearly as good with donations and it's still early on. If we mix everyone up, I doubt there would be a noticeable difference.

This is all just off the to of my head. For the moment I'm very happy in FBG4, I like having some downtime while I level up heroes so it's not as big of a war issue.

 
thecatch said:
I think the cause of FBG1's match up problems has been pretty well known for awhile. Multiple members of FBG1 have agreed it's the cause. It was a problem at 50 before, thinking that returning there is going to make everything better without doing anything else is Einstein's definition of insanity.

But any attempts to help get it fixed get rebuffed. I don't know what to do but shrug at this point.
What was your solution?
Balance the TH levels so you don't have as big of a glut of bases at TH9. Beerguzzler added that he thought part of the problem is that so many were upper level TH9 while there aren't many TH10 which I gather is increasing the chances of being outnumbered by TH10s.

When most targets are TH9s who aren't terrible to 2-star but really hard to 3-star, then the effect on the scoreboard of the skill of the attacker is minimized. If he can't get better than a lesser attacker would, then it doesn't matter if we're better attackers, it comes down to the whim of the match up. If there's more variation in bases, then if we have more skill in attacking that can turn into an extra star on the scoreboard when we have more targets to deal with than just upper level TH9s.

FBG4 this war had 2 true TH10 and 2 non-inferno TH10. 8 true TH9s and 2 more under-leveled ones. 7 TH8. 4 TH7. 2 TH6. 3 TH5.

FBG1 doesn't have to go down to TH5. But between the two clans I have to believe we could come up with a mix that gives FBG1 better variation and gets them match ups where our ability to out-attack most opponents will show through.

It isn't like this is something untested. It's what FBG1 was before everyone leveled up and the problems started, and it's what FBG4 is doing now with success.
Well, we all know about the matchmaking issues. Pointing that out isn't a solution. The problem is actually getting the more even distribution of bases. Many of the TH9s in FBG1 want to war more than 2x a week, or want to benefit from the awesome donation levels in FBG1, so there isn't interest in moving to the other clans. The lower level guys in other clans don't seem to want to join FBG1 for whatever reasons, despite our constant campaigning here on the board. That's the real problem.
there is no point for a mid TH7 like me to join FBG1 when I can't even get a star off the opponents worst base. You'd need a half dozen low bases to join.

 
Update on Honda:

About 40 members right now. I am on the verge of passing the 2000 troops received mark (thank you barrack boost).

Whatever slow donation existed in the past is not an issue right now.

 
Update on Honda:

About 40 members right now. I am on the verge of passing the 2000 troops received mark (thank you barrack boost).

Whatever slow donation existed in the past is not an issue right now.
honda was never a donation issue. My time thete was great. Boog was awful

 
thecatch said:
I think the cause of FBG1's match up problems has been pretty well known for awhile. Multiple members of FBG1 have agreed it's the cause. It was a problem at 50 before, thinking that returning there is going to make everything better without doing anything else is Einstein's definition of insanity.

But any attempts to help get it fixed get rebuffed. I don't know what to do but shrug at this point.
What was your solution?
Balance the TH levels so you don't have as big of a glut of bases at TH9. Beerguzzler added that he thought part of the problem is that so many were upper level TH9 while there aren't many TH10 which I gather is increasing the chances of being outnumbered by TH10s.

When most targets are TH9s who aren't terrible to 2-star but really hard to 3-star, then the effect on the scoreboard of the skill of the attacker is minimized. If he can't get better than a lesser attacker would, then it doesn't matter if we're better attackers, it comes down to the whim of the match up. If there's more variation in bases, then if we have more skill in attacking that can turn into an extra star on the scoreboard when we have more targets to deal with than just upper level TH9s.

FBG4 this war had 2 true TH10 and 2 non-inferno TH10. 8 true TH9s and 2 more under-leveled ones. 7 TH8. 4 TH7. 2 TH6. 3 TH5.

FBG1 doesn't have to go down to TH5. But between the two clans I have to believe we could come up with a mix that gives FBG1 better variation and gets them match ups where our ability to out-attack most opponents will show through.

It isn't like this is something untested. It's what FBG1 was before everyone leveled up and the problems started, and it's what FBG4 is doing now with success.
Well, we all know about the matchmaking issues. Pointing that out isn't a solution. The problem is actually getting the more even distribution of bases. Many of the TH9s in FBG1 want to war more than 2x a week, or want to benefit from the awesome donation levels in FBG1, so there isn't interest in moving to the other clans. The lower level guys in other clans don't seem to want to join FBG1 for whatever reasons, despite our constant campaigning here on the board. That's the real problem.
there is no point for a mid TH7 like me to join FBG1 when I can't even get a star off the opponents worst base. You'd need a half dozen low bases to join.
Do you have level 2+ dragons? If so, you can get stars.

 
Update on Honda:

About 40 members right now. I am on the verge of passing the 2000 troops received mark (thank you barrack boost).

Whatever slow donation existed in the past is not an issue right now.
honda was never a donation issue. My time thete was great. Boog was awful
For donations? There are five of us that donate like crazy. Maybe you were on when we were sleeping?
 
Catching up war logs.

I missed a Boog result. What do you have for clan name and score betwee these two in your war log (in chat, Click the "i" and then click War Log).

FBG2:ElecBoog 78 - clark clashers 90 (12/19/2014)

FBG2:ElecBoog 59 - AFGs 39 (12/31/2014)
Honda do you have anything after this:

FBG3: *Honda* 106 - Killer Squad 107 (12/19/2014)
FBG1 missing a couple. What do you have after these;

fbgs 113 - Virtus Honoris 21 (12/9/2014)fbgs 96 - American Savage 101 (12/12/2014)
The Boog you missed was Boog 58-Blumenhell 39
 

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