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Need an 8.5 war base
I think I had one posted off reddit awhile ago. Shukes isn't awful. Usually holds off plenty of th8. Key is centered queen guarded by tesla. Then have the towers far enough away to maybe track stuff odd.

I made shukes while taking a dump. Most of my war bases are homegrown now.

 
When you're going in to kill the AQ before hogging, what is the deciding factor as to whether you lure and kill the CC first or let your golem/heroes take care of it?

 
When you're going in to kill the AQ before hogging, what is the deciding factor as to whether you lure and kill the CC first or let your golem/heroes take care of it?
I always pull, lure to the same area where I will go after the queen, and let my kill squad help clear out that side of the base.

 
At 49 so have room for one more right away. Shuke on standby in global. We have a couple that we can move out with no issue at all a couple we probably need to move out because not sure they are active at the moment.

We have a fairly good mix at the moment. About 10 that rep TH8 20 TH9 20 TH10. So basically anything would work.

 
moskri post on comps to take down DF which is probably the most common TH10 base we see these days

2 Golems, 9 Witches, 4 Wbs, 4-6 wizards, 12 hogs, 2 loons.

General idea behind the strategy: Golems and queen funneled at top to take out 1 corner, hogs to take 2nd corner, king to take 3rd corner. Fourth corner (one across the side you started at) should be taken down with loons once AD's go down in that area.

From spell it's debatable, freeze isn't actually needed imo. And most of the bases can be took down with only 4 spells, I`ll upload few more videos with detailed explanation and drawing so you guys can catch it if you didn't in this one. Stay cool and keep rocking :)

As a side note, you don't need 40/40 for this strategy to work. I`ll do it on my account next war we're just against ####ty bases this war. (I'm at 30/34)

His video is not all that helpful, but whatever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkYSWlDnDJI

 
I'm also seeing less and less raids on TH10 with Freeze as a critical part. I'm starting to lean on it as a farming spell, but trying to gameplan around only taking at most 1 freeze, and using it primarily as a bailout spell to get a star if everything goes to ####.

If you saw my raid on 13 I took a bailout freeze to hit the MT just in case my queen didn't get there. If the MT was still up I probably would have been dicey to get 2 stars, maybe just 1. Ended up just dumping it on an AA once the last hound popped. Didn't even need it.

 
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moskri post on comps to take down DF which is probably the most common TH10 base we see these days

2 Golems, 9 Witches, 4 Wbs, 4-6 wizards, 12 hogs, 2 loons.

General idea behind the strategy: Golems and queen funneled at top to take out 1 corner, hogs to take 2nd corner, king to take 3rd corner. Fourth corner (one across the side you started at) should be taken down with loons once AD's go down in that area.

From spell it's debatable, freeze isn't actually needed imo. And most of the bases can be took down with only 4 spells, I`ll upload few more videos with detailed explanation and drawing so you guys can catch it if you didn't in this one. Stay cool and keep rocking :)

As a side note, you don't need 40/40 for this strategy to work. I`ll do it on my account next war we're just against ####ty bases this war. (I'm at 30/34)

His video is not all that helpful, but whatever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkYSWlDnDJI
Is the "DF" you mention the clover type bases we are seeing more and more of?

Intersteing that you would attack it as 4 seperate zones

 
moskri post on comps to take down DF which is probably the most common TH10 base we see these days

2 Golems, 9 Witches, 4 Wbs, 4-6 wizards, 12 hogs, 2 loons.

General idea behind the strategy: Golems and queen funneled at top to take out 1 corner, hogs to take 2nd corner, king to take 3rd corner. Fourth corner (one across the side you started at) should be taken down with loons once AD's go down in that area.

From spell it's debatable, freeze isn't actually needed imo. And most of the bases can be took down with only 4 spells, I`ll upload few more videos with detailed explanation and drawing so you guys can catch it if you didn't in this one. Stay cool and keep rocking :)

As a side note, you don't need 40/40 for this strategy to work. I`ll do it on my account next war we're just against ####ty bases this war. (I'm at 30/34)

His video is not all that helpful, but whatever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkYSWlDnDJI
Is the "DF" you mention the clover type bases we are seeing more and more of?

Intersteing that you would attack it as 4 seperate zones
I have no idea what the clover base is called. That's what I call it. Dragonflower is the base with the little 3 pack corner sets of WT/MT/AT that repeats with your anti air between them. What you end up with is a core that has very little dps.

It was constructed as a trophy base initially because it's hard to barch for 1 star and it got popular in war because it's tricky to get enough of the stuff dead on the first kill team to get a 3.

each one has a slightly different variant, some shade the th more and leave queen center, some center the TH and put the queen on the edge.

 
So my war weight is reporting 80K in the current war.

Spreadsheet says I should be at 73K or 74K.

Most recently built infernos... perhaps their value is higher than the spreadsheet gives them?

 
Black Box said:
So my war weight is reporting 80K in the current war.

Spreadsheet says I should be at 73K or 74K.

Most recently built infernos... perhaps their value is higher than the spreadsheet gives them?
No idea, he says he's gonna release an update soon.

I think there are a few flaws in his logic. For one, I'm not sure that the weight doesn't actually hold you accountable for defenses in construction, not just completed ones. Some are reporting they may take the war weight you get in loot as a 2nd snapshot that is different than the starting.

i.e.

  • Matchmaking done with what you have at war start button hit, doesn't include construction.
  • War weight for loot done with what you have now including whats under construction, and this includes labs.
Also his wall math is likely off, alot. I think he took the approach of taking a max th10, max th9 max th8 and then working backwards to get the wall weights and this was flawed in some ways. The above situation explains alot. He says he did this with mostly static bases that were upgrading one thing at a time. People that have 3 or 4 or more defenses under builders are more complex.

I haven't taken the time to work mine out. Probably should at some point.

 
It's going to be a nice test. My lab is idle and with the war loot i'll start max wizards. Will see if there is a bumpup of any kind.

 
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Can a Hondite lower trophies reqs to let me back in por facor?
done. come on in.
Bah, you should have stayed. Just wait till we get to the real war and the whiskey comes out.
I honestly have no idea why I suck so bad. I enjoy this game and I feel like I get it - it just doesn't translate to decent attacks. Lucky to get 1 star after failing to even lure the freaking CC.My only hope at this point is to level up offense and heroes so much it will compensate for my lack of stategery. Was good to see the old crew though.

 
Black Box said:
So my war weight is reporting 80K in the current war.

Spreadsheet says I should be at 73K or 74K.

Most recently built infernos... perhaps their value is higher than the spreadsheet gives them?
No idea, he says he's gonna release an update soon.

I think there are a few flaws in his logic. For one, I'm not sure that the weight doesn't actually hold you accountable for defenses in construction, not just completed ones. Some are reporting they may take the war weight you get in loot as a 2nd snapshot that is different than the starting.

i.e.

  • Matchmaking done with what you have at war start button hit, doesn't include construction.
  • War weight for loot done with what you have now including whats under construction, and this includes labs.
Also his wall math is likely off, alot. I think he took the approach of taking a max th10, max th9 max th8 and then working backwards to get the wall weights and this was flawed in some ways. The above situation explains alot. He says he did this with mostly static bases that were upgrading one thing at a time. People that have 3 or 4 or more defenses under builders are more complex.

I haven't taken the time to work mine out. Probably should at some point.
I am actually in a situation where I could get a value on an inferno... I have one completed and one under construction. My current weight is 80K with two infernos. I could cancel one inferno and see what value I am at in the next war (and nothing else will complete in the meantime).

But... nah.

 
Can a Hondite lower trophies reqs to let me back in por facor?
done. come on in.
Bah, you should have stayed. Just wait till we get to the real war and the whiskey comes out.
I left too. Not overly exciting, and I shot higher than I should have since there wasn't a real chance of losing.
Would really be nice to pull in a try hard 50. At this point we lack 2 but could easily make room for up to 5.

Given what we know about 50 person clans it's about a 1/3 chance to draw farmers at 50. So gotta ride out a few of these and just get the sick loot brah.

 
Can a Hondite lower trophies reqs to let me back in por facor?
done. come on in.
Bah, you should have stayed. Just wait till we get to the real war and the whiskey comes out.
I honestly have no idea why I suck so bad. I enjoy this game and I feel like I get it - it just doesn't translate to decent attacks. Lucky to get 1 star after failing to even lure the freaking CC.My only hope at this point is to level up offense and heroes so much it will compensate for my lack of stategery. Was good to see the old crew though.
this didn't work for me fwiw
 
Would really be nice to pull in a try hard 50. At this point we lack 2 but could easily make room for up to 5.

Given what we know about 50 person clans it's about a 1/3 chance to draw farmers at 50. So gotta ride out a few of these and just get the sick loot brah.
When do you kick off next?

 
Can a Hondite lower trophies reqs to let me back in por facor?
done. come on in.
Bah, you should have stayed. Just wait till we get to the real war and the whiskey comes out.
I honestly have no idea why I suck so bad. I enjoy this game and I feel like I get it - it just doesn't translate to decent attacks. Lucky to get 1 star after failing to even lure the freaking CC.My only hope at this point is to level up offense and heroes so much it will compensate for my lack of stategery. Was good to see the old crew though.
Well, the plan wasn't that bad. You got the lure with 10 spots which is decent but you pulled them all down to the south, didn't kill them and let them run off to the north. Thought you were gonna use queen to deal with dragon.

I think popping the purple wall with wbs after golem comes out, let king out with some wiz and you get the queen and an aa and can continue on.

that wasn't the worst hog base in the world either. Easy to get queen. and a jump gets you deep.

just takes time to learn the timing of it all.

 
Can a Hondite lower trophies reqs to let me back in por facor?
done. come on in.
Bah, you should have stayed. Just wait till we get to the real war and the whiskey comes out.
I honestly have no idea why I suck so bad. I enjoy this game and I feel like I get it - it just doesn't translate to decent attacks. Lucky to get 1 star after failing to even lure the freaking CC.My only hope at this point is to level up offense and heroes so much it will compensate for my lack of stategery. Was good to see the old crew though.
the trick is to not care. if i cared i would have quit months ago. i am honestly terrible at multitasking and that's what it takes at high levels. it's easy to feel like i am awesome up to drag rushes and basic gowipes. beyond that i think i'm pretty good at planning stuff out and recognizing what has to be done but the execution sorely lacks. sounds like it's what you are saying.

 
Would really be nice to pull in a try hard 50. At this point we lack 2 but could easily make room for up to 5.

Given what we know about 50 person clans it's about a 1/3 chance to draw farmers at 50. So gotta ride out a few of these and just get the sick loot brah.
When do you kick off next?
7h26min
I'll bring a low TH9 (hogger only) over if you need to get to 50.
At this point we are in for sure need of 2 and honestly 4. We have 2 that probably won't attack at all.

 
Can a Hondite lower trophies reqs to let me back in por facor?
done. come on in.
Bah, you should have stayed. Just wait till we get to the real war and the whiskey comes out.
I honestly have no idea why I suck so bad. I enjoy this game and I feel like I get it - it just doesn't translate to decent attacks. Lucky to get 1 star after failing to even lure the freaking CC.My only hope at this point is to level up offense and heroes so much it will compensate for my lack of stategery. Was good to see the old crew though.
the trick is to not care. if i cared i would have quit months ago. i am honestly terrible at multitasking and that's what it takes at high levels. it's easy to feel like i am awesome up to drag rushes and basic gowipes. beyond that i think i'm pretty good at planning stuff out and recognizing what has to be done but the execution sorely lacks. sounds like it's what you are saying.
It is really not so much multitasking, but rather trusting that what you are doing with your plan is going to work.

Sometimes it is just deploy what needs to be deployed and how it should be deployed, and move onto the next step in your attack. You can't always watch and wait.

This was key to get lavaloons working for me... and it was really more of a mindset than anything.

 
Can a Hondite lower trophies reqs to let me back in por facor?
done. come on in.
Bah, you should have stayed. Just wait till we get to the real war and the whiskey comes out.
I honestly have no idea why I suck so bad. I enjoy this game and I feel like I get it - it just doesn't translate to decent attacks. Lucky to get 1 star after failing to even lure the freaking CC.My only hope at this point is to level up offense and heroes so much it will compensate for my lack of stategery. Was good to see the old crew though.
the trick is to not care. if i cared i would have quit months ago. i am honestly terrible at multitasking and that's what it takes at high levels. it's easy to feel like i am awesome up to drag rushes and basic gowipes. beyond that i think i'm pretty good at planning stuff out and recognizing what has to be done but the execution sorely lacks. sounds like it's what you are saying.
It is really not so much multitasking, but rather trusting that what you are doing with your plan is going to work.

Sometimes it is just deploy what needs to be deployed and how it should be deployed, and move onto the next step in your attack. You can't always watch and wait.

This was key to get lavaloons working for me... and it was really more of a mindset than anything.
Tough bases you need a backup plan if your opener fails to get enough stuff dead, that backup plan may just be having a bailout plan so you don't get 0.

Easy bases you just rely on your opener getting to a certain point (CC/AQ) and then release the hounds/hogs on a pattern you determined to be ideal, with margin, without looking at what is going on.

Hold a few cleanup troops back, wait for them to be needed.

Collect stars and accolades. Success rate on TH9vTH9 (3) only needs to be 50% to just flat dominate people. TH10vTH10 success rate (2+) actually needs to be quite a bit higher. Closer to 75% to compete at the high levels. TH9 is the best place to learn the game.

 
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Can a Hondite lower trophies reqs to let me back in por facor?
done. come on in.
Bah, you should have stayed. Just wait till we get to the real war and the whiskey comes out.
I left too. Not overly exciting, and I shot higher than I should have since there wasn't a real chance of losing.
Lol. Of course it wasn't exciting...it wasn't a real war!

 
Can a Hondite lower trophies reqs to let me back in por facor?
done. come on in.
Bah, you should have stayed. Just wait till we get to the real war and the whiskey comes out.
I left too. Not overly exciting, and I shot higher than I should have since there wasn't a real chance of losing.
Lol. Of course it wasn't exciting...it wasn't a real war!
This was the reason for saying try and stay a week. A couple reasons, we don't have to go and scramble for people to make 50, and odds are we probably hit one farm war, one matchup that was out of hand one way or the other and one decent-ish war.

 
Speaking of taking a dump. Quattro is taking the part of the victim in a Dentist porno fantasy.
These guys are good, but we're also taking a big old #### on ourself. Lots of brutal attacks.
I made a rookie mistake twice; not creating a funnel for my heroes after dropping CC golem. Even had I picked up all 6 stars, we still got kneed in the dik.
Yeah, we weren't winning that, or many others, with the roster we had...

 

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