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Classy Move By Jim Irsay (1 Viewer)

Noone knows all the insight to any of this besides Irsay and Edge.

To try and make this into a negative - while being clueless of the innerworkings - is just flapping your lips. :confused:

Well done to Irsay, Dungy the Colts and Edge. :salute:

 
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Only thing for Edge to do is thank you but no thanks. No chance would I take a ring for a title I wasn't apart of. Classy move by Indy but I doubt Edge excepts it.
He did accept it. And said it meant a lot to him. It will be in his trophy case but he hopes to win one on the field with his current team.link

 
First lesson: apples to apples, oranges to oranges; not apples to oranges.
Why do you say this?
Seriously? Go back and look at what Edgerrin James did for the Colts over seven seasons while the Colts were building to be a great franchise. He was one of the best in the league at his position most seasons and was an absolutely integral part of getting the Colts' to the annual contention status they now enjoy. Corey Dillon played three seasons in New England after the franchise had already enjoyed plenty of success. In those three seasons, he played well...but only one of the three where he would have been considered Edge-on-the-Colts level of play.Dominic Rhodes? Cato June? Come on. You don't see anything askew about the comparison of them helping the Colts to get where they are as a franchise vs. what Edgerrin James did? Let's not be obtuse here...There are a lot of people who need to go back and re-read the original post. Irsay gave Edge the ring to acknowledge the role Edge played in getting the Colts to this level. He didn't win the Super Bowl, but Irsay realizes that Edge was a significant factor in the Colts franchise going from the annual outhouse to the annual penthouse.Edit to add: You can argue whether Edge's contribution should have netted him a Super Bowl ring, or a plaque, or a thank you card, or a gift card to the local Applebees, or a phone call, or a pat on the backside, but comparing his contribution in building the Colts juggernaut to Dominic Rhodes' or Cato June's? That's simply a bad analogy. Ditto Corey Dillon and the Patriots.
Ohhh no, I am just wondering why you say you can't compare apples and oranges. I can. Everyone can.
 
First lesson: apples to apples, oranges to oranges; not apples to oranges.
Why do you say this?
Seriously? Go back and look at what Edgerrin James did for the Colts over seven seasons while the Colts were building to be a great franchise. He was one of the best in the league at his position most seasons and was an absolutely integral part of getting the Colts' to the annual contention status they now enjoy. Corey Dillon played three seasons in New England after the franchise had already enjoyed plenty of success. In those three seasons, he played well...but only one of the three where he would have been considered Edge-on-the-Colts level of play.Dominic Rhodes? Cato June? Come on. You don't see anything askew about the comparison of them helping the Colts to get where they are as a franchise vs. what Edgerrin James did? Let's not be obtuse here...There are a lot of people who need to go back and re-read the original post. Irsay gave Edge the ring to acknowledge the role Edge played in getting the Colts to this level. He didn't win the Super Bowl, but Irsay realizes that Edge was a significant factor in the Colts franchise going from the annual outhouse to the annual penthouse.Edit to add: You can argue whether Edge's contribution should have netted him a Super Bowl ring, or a plaque, or a thank you card, or a gift card to the local Applebees, or a phone call, or a pat on the backside, but comparing his contribution in building the Colts juggernaut to Dominic Rhodes' or Cato June's? That's simply a bad analogy. Ditto Corey Dillon and the Patriots.
Ohhh no, I am just wondering why you say you can't compare apples and oranges. I can. Everyone can.
Good for you, Lloyd!
 
Wonder if Nomar or Adrian Dantley ever got rings?
I don't know about Dantley, but Nomar was given one.You can say blah blah Vanderjagt, Tony Dungy yada yada, but the connection wasn't such.You look at the Red Sox, Garciapara was a HUGE part of that team for years, and the fans loved him, he was loved allover the city. It was the same with James. He was amazing for them for years. Overcame an ACL injury, came back to pro-bowl level, helped them compete for a championship for years, he was one of the "triplets", and beloved in Indy. Between Peyton/Freeny/Harrison--49 other people on the team (53 once you account for James)...there's just not enough money. He was a cap casualty that should have and would have been a huge part of that superbowl run. James was one of the best backs in NFL history statistically until the move.
 
Does anyone honestly believe that Edgerrin James is less deserving of a Colts SB ring than some guy who just happened to be on the practice squad that day only to be replaced 3 weeks later? Who do you think contributed more to that superbowl victory, Edge, or the 8 schmucks who were gameday inactives? Edge or all of the guys who sat out the entire season on IR?

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That's an insult to Edge. It's basically Irsay saying "this is the closest thing you'll ever get to your own Superbowl ring. Enjoy!"Edge could not possibly wear this ring with any pride.
Why the hell not? He helped build that house. Do you think Dungy doesn't feel any pride that his Buccaneers won the superbowl, whether he was coaching them or not? Dungy helped build those Buccaneers into champions, and Edge helped build those Colts into champions. Both of them were part of their former team's SB victory, whether they were on the field or not.If I play football at Vanderbilt and over my 4 years there we turn the team from a joke to a true contender, and the team wins a championship the year after I leave, you bet your butt that I feel pride and consider that championship partly mine. I helped turn the team around, I made it a desirable place to be, and I paved the way for quality football in that town. Do you think Florida could have won the national championship without the contributions of Ron Zook? Do you think Denver would have become such a good team if it weren't for the Orange Crush Broncos adding legitimacy to the franchise? Do you think Miami makes the championship game in 2001 if Schnellenberger doesn't coach them from 1979 to 2001? Should Schnellenberger feel no sense of pride for the 30-game winning streak?
 
Wonder if Nomar or Adrian Dantley ever got rings?
I don't know about Dantley, but Nomar was given one.You can say blah blah Vanderjagt, Tony Dungy yada yada, but the connection wasn't such.You look at the Red Sox, Garciapara was a HUGE part of that team for years, and the fans loved him, he was loved allover the city. It was the same with James. He was amazing for them for years. Overcame an ACL injury, came back to pro-bowl level, helped them compete for a championship for years, he was one of the "triplets", and beloved in Indy. Between Peyton/Freeny/Harrison--49 other people on the team (53 once you account for James)...there's just not enough money. He was a cap casualty that should have and would have been a huge part of that superbowl run. James was one of the best backs in NFL history statistically until the move.
Of course you can same the same for Dungy. The Bucs stopped being #### when he took them over. He leaves and Gruden reaps the rewards.And I still wouldn't give Dungy a SB ring for the Bucs win.
 
Does anyone honestly believe that Edgerrin James is less deserving of a Colts SB ring than some guy who just happened to be on the practice squad that day only to be replaced 3 weeks later? Who do you think contributed more to that superbowl victory, Edge, or the 8 schmucks who were gameday inactives? Edge or all of the guys who sat out the entire season on IR?
So everyone who didn't play was equally as deserving as Edge, and by that logic I should be expecting my Super Bowl ring in the mail any day now, right?
 
What a giant fu to James that is.

Classy move would have been to say thx, but hre's your ring back -- guess that's too much to expect.

 
Classy move by Irsay. James gave a lot to the Colts, and I'm sure many in the organization feel that if it wasn't for Edgerrin James' contributions over the years, the Colts wouldn't have won it all last season. ;) to Irsay.
How did his performance in previous years contribute to a superbowl win in a year where he was playing for another team?
In countless ways. He mentored Dom Rhodes, who rushed for 113 yards and a TD. He helped carry the team to the playoffs many times over, giving them the necessary playoff experience and mental toughness to stage the largest comeback in AFC Championship game history. If Edgerrin James was a bust draft pick, I don't think you can say with any degree of certainty that the Colts win the Super Bowl in '06.
So your reasoning"mentoring Rhodes" is one of the reasons he should have gotten a ring. That same example applies as you can also say Rhodes mentored Addia and if the Colts win it this year Rhodes then deserves a ring.If I say this I get told to take a lesson in analogies and asked to compare apples and oranges, someone else makes this statement and it's logical?If you're on a roster and you win a championship, you get a ring. All the players who came before can take pride in that but they certainly don't deserve something that everyone on that roster worked their a### off all season long to get while said player was taking more money in Arizona.
 
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I think this is kind of weird, too. James didn't earn a Super Bowl ring. I guess it's a nice show of respect to acknowledge his contribution...but a ring seems out of place.

Personally, I think a SB game ball to show that he was a part of the team's building blocks for years and contributed to their success would be more appropriate. This seems like a symbol of success he hasn't earned yet.

 
Does anyone honestly believe that Edgerrin James is less deserving of a Colts SB ring than some guy who just happened to be on the practice squad that day only to be replaced 3 weeks later? Who do you think contributed more to that superbowl victory, Edge, or the 8 schmucks who were gameday inactives? Edge or all of the guys who sat out the entire season on IR?
If Edge actually did more for the Colts than players who were actually ON THE TEAM the year they won the superbowl, sanctions should be levied by the league. A player is not supposed to be helping his old team win at the same time he is being employed by another team. I can't believe you'd even pose this question, because it's so ridiculous.Put into fantasy terms, how do you feel about it when two owners of different fantasy football teams split up the pot at the end of the season? Lets say the winner got some great trade advice from another owner, so he threw him some money out of the pot. Is that classy?
 
Perhaps a plaque instead would have been more appropriate. "In recognition of contributions provided to build this organization into a Super Bowl Champion, (...etc...)". ;)
Agreed. Or possibly a nice watch. But not a SB ring. Not that there was anything malevolent about the gesture.
 
If I'm Edge I appreciate the gesture. I wouldn't wear the ring, but I'd definitely appreciate the thought that went behind it.

And it's disturbing to me that so many people want to view this as an ill-intentioned act.

 
Does anyone honestly believe that Edgerrin James is less deserving of a Colts SB ring than some guy who just happened to be on the practice squad that day only to be replaced 3 weeks later? Who do you think contributed more to that superbowl victory, Edge, or the 8 schmucks who were gameday inactives? Edge or all of the guys who sat out the entire season on IR?
If Edge actually did more for the Colts than players who were actually ON THE TEAM the year they won the superbowl, sanctions should be levied by the league. A player is not supposed to be helping his old team win at the same time he is being employed by another team. I can't believe you'd even pose this question, because it's so ridiculous.
So you're saying that it's ridiculous to suggest that Edge contributed more to Indy's win than some guy who didn't see the field all season because he was on IR? Because the guy on IR gets a ring. If "Guy on IR" gets a ring, and Edge is more deserving of a ring than "Guy on IR", why shouldn't Edge get a ring, too?I'll go so far as to say Tony Dungy contributed more to Tampa's SB win than Gruden. And no, sanctions don't need to be levied- Dungy wasn't actively helping out Tampa Bay, it's just that his fingerprints were all over that franchise. He helped make that franchise great. Without him, it's questionable whether they would have ever achieved greatness in the first place... and without greatness, there's no SB victory. Ditto that for Edge.
 
Does anyone honestly believe that Edgerrin James is less deserving of a Colts SB ring than some guy who just happened to be on the practice squad that day only to be replaced 3 weeks later? Who do you think contributed more to that superbowl victory, Edge, or the 8 schmucks who were gameday inactives? Edge or all of the guys who sat out the entire season on IR?
If Edge actually did more for the Colts than players who were actually ON THE TEAM the year they won the superbowl, sanctions should be levied by the league. A player is not supposed to be helping his old team win at the same time he is being employed by another team. I can't believe you'd even pose this question, because it's so ridiculous.
So you're saying that it's ridiculous to suggest that Edge contributed more to Indy's win than some guy who didn't see the field all season because he was on IR? Because the guy on IR gets a ring. If "Guy on IR" gets a ring, and Edge is more deserving of a ring than "Guy on IR", why shouldn't Edge get a ring, too?I'll go so far as to say Tony Dungy contributed more to Tampa's SB win than Gruden. And no, sanctions don't need to be levied- Dungy wasn't actively helping out Tampa Bay, it's just that his fingerprints were all over that franchise. He helped make that franchise great. Without him, it's questionable whether they would have ever achieved greatness in the first place... and without greatness, there's no SB victory. Ditto that for Edge.
Edge wasnt on the team that won the superbowl. Any player that WAS on the team gets a ring, BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE SUPERBOWL WINNING TEAM. It's the very DEFINITION of why you get a trophy for WINNING.To follow your logic: Edge is on a different team than the Superbowl Colts. He's under contract to help the Cardinals win, not the Colts. If he contributed more to the Colts winning a superbowl than any of the players actually under contract by the Colts, there should be serious sanctions levied by the NFL. That's a huge conflict of interests, it's against league policy, and it would be a terrible way to run the league.

Giving Edge a ring cheapens the whole process. I'd be upset about this if I was any of the players on the SB Colts team. By your own words you think that there are players on the SB Colts who are less deserving of a trophy than a player on a different team. That's offensive and represents exactly why this kind of things shouldnt happen. It takes away from their championship.

 
Does anyone honestly believe that Edgerrin James is less deserving of a Colts SB ring than some guy who just happened to be on the practice squad that day only to be replaced 3 weeks later? Who do you think contributed more to that superbowl victory, Edge, or the 8 schmucks who were gameday inactives? Edge or all of the guys who sat out the entire season on IR?
If Edge actually did more for the Colts than players who were actually ON THE TEAM the year they won the superbowl, sanctions should be levied by the league. A player is not supposed to be helping his old team win at the same time he is being employed by another team. I can't believe you'd even pose this question, because it's so ridiculous.
So you're saying that it's ridiculous to suggest that Edge contributed more to Indy's win than some guy who didn't see the field all season because he was on IR? Because the guy on IR gets a ring. If "Guy on IR" gets a ring, and Edge is more deserving of a ring than "Guy on IR", why shouldn't Edge get a ring, too?I'll go so far as to say Tony Dungy contributed more to Tampa's SB win than Gruden. And no, sanctions don't need to be levied- Dungy wasn't actively helping out Tampa Bay, it's just that his fingerprints were all over that franchise. He helped make that franchise great. Without him, it's questionable whether they would have ever achieved greatness in the first place... and without greatness, there's no SB victory. Ditto that for Edge.
Edge wasnt on the team that won the superbowl. Any player that WAS on the team gets a ring, BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE SUPERBOWL WINNING TEAM. It's the very DEFINITION of why you get a trophy for WINNING.To follow your logic: Edge is on a different team than the Superbowl Colts. He's under contract to help the Cardinals win, not the Colts. If he contributed more to the Colts winning a superbowl than any of the players actually under contract by the Colts, there should be serious sanctions levied by the NFL. That's a huge conflict of interests, it's against league policy, and it would be a terrible way to run the league.

Giving Edge a ring cheapens the whole process. I'd be upset about this if I was any of the players on the SB Colts team. By your own words you think that there are players on the SB Colts who are less deserving of a trophy than a player on a different team. That's offensive and represents exactly why this kind of things shouldnt happen. It takes away from their championship.
If Pittsburgh wins the SB this season, I would argue that Bill Cowher was more responsible for that SB victory than some guy on the practice squad. I don't get why that is worthy of sanctions by the NFL. The NFL needs to level sanctions because some people leave a lasting imprint on a franchise? That's the sort of behavior that the NFL should be ENCOURAGING rather than sanctioning.And yes, I believe that there are some players on the SB colts who are less deserving of a trophy than a player on a different team. For instance, the players on IR. How did players who were on IR the entire season contribute more to that championship than Edge? How did the practice squadders contribute to that championship? Why does Jimmy Smith get a SB ring with the Cowboys (for whom he did nothing but take up cap space and a roster spot), and he's somehow deserving, but Edgerrin James gets one from the Colts and it "cheapens the whole process"?

 
First this is stupid.He did not win the Super Bowl = doesn't get a ring.Second, the only time Irsay and classy should be in the same sentence is if the sentence reads, "Jim Irsay* is not classy."*See Colts, Baltimore
Them sure were some "classy" trucks leaving Baltimore at 2 am when the Colts moved. And "classy" Jim Irsay signs the check of "classy" Bill Polian every month.
 
Hypothetical: Edge went to the Bears instead of the Cards last year and the Colts beat the Bears in the SB. Does Irsay pull the same move?

 
If the two like/respect each other...nice gesture

If not, it's basically an FU from Irsay

I'm assuming there isn't any bad blood

 
I have mixed emotions about that move.

I agree that James was a big part of the Colts progression. Yet at the same time they never won with him on the team, they won the year after he left.

It was a good gesture, but was it really the right move? Rings should be special for the team involved.
Hmmm, how long has he been gone?And didn't they just break the record for 10 win seasons in a row?

James was a HUGE part in turning Indy around, and some could argue that they had a few better teams than the SB team when Edge was there....

This whole thing reminds me of the tale about the old man, the boy, and the ### (donkey)...

The man decided to sell his donkey at the market, so he and his boy started the trek into town riding the donkey...

They passed by some people who said "how cruel, isn't that too much for the donkey to carry..."

So the boy got off the donkey and walked alongside as they proceeded ahead, until they passed some more people

They said "what a lazy father, forcing his son to walk while he rides the donkey..."

So the father and son switched places, the boy on the donkey, the father walking alongside, until they passed another group of people

"what a disrespectful son, making his father walk" was the exclamation this time...

So the boy got off the donkey, and the man and boy walked together alongside the donkey...

As they neared the market, another group of people passed by, and said "how stupid, why bother having a donkey if no one is going to ride it..."

 
Edge gets a ringRunning back Edgerrin James spent his first seven NFL seasons with Indianapolis, but he left in 2006 and wasn't part of the Colts championship team last year. At least not officially.Word came out of Indianapolis this week that Coach Tony Dungy gave James a Super Bowl ring, a move that James confirmed Wednesday."I'll cherish that forever," said James, who made it clear that he won't wear the ring."I'll put it up high, and hopefully someday I'll match it."
I think it was a classy thing to do and I agree it could have been meant as an FU, but clearly it wasn't.Edge was a huge part of the Colts for a long time and helped build the offense that won the SB. Sure, it's a little strange to give a ring to a guy who left as a FA but I don't think it was his choice. He wanted to stay and get paid but it was either him or Harrison (I'll admit I thought it should have been Edge they kept).
 
I'll go so far as to say Tony Dungy contributed more to Tampa's SB win than Gruden. And no, sanctions don't need to be levied- Dungy wasn't actively helping out Tampa Bay, it's just that his fingerprints were all over that franchise. He helped make that franchise great. Without him, it's questionable whether they would have ever achieved greatness in the first place... and without greatness, there's no SB victory. Ditto that for Edge.
Actually for YEARS with Dungy they were unable to achieve greatness. Without him they were able to.But don't let facts get in the way of your thought process.
 
I have mixed emotions about that move.

I agree that James was a big part of the Colts progression. Yet at the same time they never won with him on the team, they won the year after he left.

It was a good gesture, but was it really the right move? Rings should be special for the team involved.
Hmmm, how long has he been gone?And didn't they just break the record for 10 win seasons in a row?

James was a HUGE part in turning Indy around, and some could argue that they had a few better teams than the SB team when Edge was there....

This whole thing reminds me of the tale about the old man, the boy, and the ### (donkey)...

The man decided to sell his donkey at the market, so he and his boy started the trek into town riding the donkey...

They passed by some people who said "how cruel, isn't that too much for the donkey to carry..."

So the boy got off the donkey and walked alongside as they proceeded ahead, until they passed some more people

They said "what a lazy father, forcing his son to walk while he rides the donkey..."

So the father and son switched places, the boy on the donkey, the father walking alongside, until they passed another group of people

"what a disrespectful son, making his father walk" was the exclamation this time...

So the boy got off the donkey, and the man and boy walked together alongside the donkey...

As they neared the market, another group of people passed by, and said "how stupid, why bother having a donkey if no one is going to ride it..."
:goodposting: :lmao:
 
And yes, I believe that there are some players on the SB colts who are less deserving of a trophy than a player on a different team. For instance, the players on IR. How did players who were on IR the entire season contribute more to that championship than Edge? How did the practice squadders contribute to that championship? Why does Jimmy Smith get a SB ring with the Cowboys (for whom he did nothing but take up cap space and a roster spot), and he's somehow deserving, but Edgerrin James gets one from the Colts and it "cheapens the whole process"?
That statement is EXACTLY why giving a ring to a player on a different team is such a bad idea. It's evidence for people to question every individual player's value on the team that actually won. We shouldnt have a conversation about how Edgerrin James on the Cardinals actually helped the Colts win the Superbowl more than the players that were actually ON THE TEAM.That's exactly why I am against it. That's why it's not a classy move, even if it seems like it's a 'feelgood' thing to do. It just cheapens the win for the players who actually earned it.

 
This whole thing reminds me of the tale about the old man, the boy, and the ### (donkey)...<snip>As they neared the market, another group of people passed by, and said "how stupid, why bother having a donkey if no one is going to ride it..."
Does the Donkey get a ring?
 
I have mixed emotions about that move.

I agree that James was a big part of the Colts progression. Yet at the same time they never won with him on the team, they won the year after he left.

It was a good gesture, but was it really the right move? Rings should be special for the team involved.
Hmmm, how long has he been gone?And didn't they just break the record for 10 win seasons in a row?

James was a HUGE part in turning Indy around, and some could argue that they had a few better teams than the SB team when Edge was there....

This whole thing reminds me of the tale about the old man, the boy, and the ### (donkey)...

The man decided to sell his donkey at the market, so he and his boy started the trek into town riding the donkey...

They passed by some people who said "how cruel, isn't that too much for the donkey to carry..."

So the boy got off the donkey and walked alongside as they proceeded ahead, until they passed some more people

They said "what a lazy father, forcing his son to walk while he rides the donkey..."

So the father and son switched places, the boy on the donkey, the father walking alongside, until they passed another group of people

"what a disrespectful son, making his father walk" was the exclamation this time...

So the boy got off the donkey, and the man and boy walked together alongside the donkey...

As they neared the market, another group of people passed by, and said "how stupid, why bother having a donkey if no one is going to ride it..."
Those people should just mind their own business. :thumbup:
 
Wow, a lot of people bashing what looks like a clear good-hearted gesture. This place never ceases to amaze me.
:shrug: You don't just win a championship on the field in the final game.
:confused: Where do you win it, in a game of tiddlywinks before the game?A nice and generous move by Isray. Also stupid, for reasons already stated. Rings should be given to people actually on the team. This actually needs to be explained?
 
First this is stupid.

He did not win the Super Bowl = doesn't get a ring.

Second, the only time Irsay and classy should be in the same sentence is if the sentence reads, "Jim Irsay* is not classy."

*See Colts, Baltimore
Them sure were some "classy" trucks leaving Baltimore at 2 am when the Colts moved. And "classy" Jim Irsay signs the check of "classy" Bill Polian every month.
Some of you people who don't know the difference between Jim Irsay and Robert Irsay and it just shows how little you really know about the Colts exodus from Baltimore. Jim Irsay is nothing like his father and didn't make the decision to leave Baltimore."Jim Irsay was 12 years old when his father Robert Irsay purchased the Baltimore Colts. After graduating from SMU, he began working for the Colts in 1982. He started by working at the ticket counter and then later in the team's public relations department. Jim was named general manager in 1984, one month after the Colts moved to Indianapolis. After his father suffered a stroke in 1995, Jim assumed day-to-day management of the team. When his father died in 1997, Jim had a legal battle with his stepmother but later became the youngest NFL team owner in history at age 37. He controls 100% of the franchise."

 
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I'll go so far as to say Tony Dungy contributed more to Tampa's SB win than Gruden. And no, sanctions don't need to be levied- Dungy wasn't actively helping out Tampa Bay, it's just that his fingerprints were all over that franchise. He helped make that franchise great. Without him, it's questionable whether they would have ever achieved greatness in the first place... and without greatness, there's no SB victory. Ditto that for Edge.
Actually for YEARS with Dungy they were unable to achieve greatness. Without him they were able to.But don't let facts get in the way of your thought process.
I never said that the Bucs achieved greatness with Dungy, I simply said that Dungy was instrumental in the Bucs achieving greatness. Big difference.In the entire history of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers prior to Dungy, only twice were they .500 or better. They had a 9-7 year, and a 10-6 year, both of which came in 1981 or earlier. Calling that franchise "moribund" would have been beyond generous, it would have been downright magnanimous. And then, after 2 .500 seasons in 20 years, Dungy posted 5 in 6 years (after going 6-10 in his first season). Before Tony Dungy got there, free agents would only visit so they could tell other teams that there was competition for their services and drum up the prices. NOBODY wanted to play for the Bucs, nobody respected the Bucs, the Bucs were wholly irrelevant. John Gruden would never have SNIFFED the Superbowl if it weren't for Tony Dungy turning that franchise from the biggest laughingstock in the history of the NFL into one of the best teams in the NFC. If Gruden had taken over that team immediately after Wyche instead of immediately after Dungy, I doubt he would have ever even made the playoffs before getting fired.But don't let facts get in the way of your thought process.
That statement is EXACTLY why giving a ring to a player on a different team is such a bad idea. It's evidence for people to question every individual player's value on the team that actually won. We shouldnt have a conversation about how Edgerrin James on the Cardinals actually helped the Colts win the Superbowl more than the players that were actually ON THE TEAM.
Please enlighten me as to how some schmuck who tried out for the team, got injured in the preseason, and spent the entire year on IR helped the Colts win the superbowl.
 
Please enlighten me as to how some schmuck who tried out for the team, got injured in the preseason, and spent the entire year on IR helped the Colts win the superbowl.
My guess would be because he wasn't wearing another team's jersey and his paychecks came from the Super Bowl champion. That's a loose definition though.
 
Please enlighten me as to how some schmuck who tried out for the team, got injured in the preseason, and spent the entire year on IR helped the Colts win the superbowl.
My guess would be because he wasn't wearing another team's jersey and his paychecks came from the Super Bowl champion. That's a loose definition though.
That makes him more hindrance than help. Both Edge and "random player on IR" contributed as much to the championship on the field, but at least Edge wasn't wasting precious cap space.
 
Wow, a lot of people bashing what looks like a clear good-hearted gesture. This place never ceases to amaze me.
:confused: You don't just win a championship on the field in the final game.
:confused: Where do you win it, in a game of tiddlywinks before the game?A nice and generous move by Isray. Also stupid, for reasons already stated. Rings should be given to people actually on the team. This actually needs to be explained?
:rolleyes: Then why did Robert Kraft give one to Vladimir Putin? And why are the Colts giving five rings away to their fans? The reasons you're citing are stupid.
 
Wow, a lot of people bashing what looks like a clear good-hearted gesture. This place never ceases to amaze me.
:shrug: You don't just win a championship on the field in the final game.
:thumbup: Where do you win it, in a game of tiddlywinks before the game?A nice and generous move by Isray. Also stupid, for reasons already stated. Rings should be given to people actually on the team. This actually needs to be explained?
:rolleyes: Then why did Robert Kraft give one to Vladimir Putin? And why are the Colts giving five rings away to their fans? The reasons you're citing are stupid.
:thumbup: It's a commemorative piece of jewelry... there's nothing saying only PLAYERS get them, or even MEMBERS OF THE TEAM. It's commemorative... just like hats, t-shirts, videos, calendars... but a heck of a lot more expensive, and overseen by the team instead of media and publishing outlets. Hence, if the team wants someone to have it, because they feel that individual is one who would enjoy the memory of the team's win, then that's their prerogative.
 

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