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So who will be wearing black shorts in this bout?
So who will be wearing black shorts in this bout?
Fixed.Great contrast in style between the two boxers. Lang will probably try to finish off the better conditioned Drago with an early round barrage. If Drago can sustain that, Drago can keep Lang at bay with his superior reach and frustrate him with his superior technical skills. Drago wins by KO death in the 8th.
Drago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!Clubber knocks out Drago in round one of a slugfestDrago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!
Although I think it would happen in 3-4 rounds rather than round 1.If Lang is Tyson, Drago is Peter McNeely.'EZD222 said:Lang = TysonDrago = a juiced up Lennox LewisLang never has a shot, but Drago may lose an ear or get stabbed
Holy God!'zamboni said:Probably right - phone home'Clinton said:Knowing that she likes to ride washed up black guys from the 80s, Clubber Lang will be distracted by Brigitte Nielsen sitting ringside.

WHAT?!?!? Creed was 47-1 with 46 KOs in his career. He had to have some punching power. Heck, he put Balboa down more than Drago did, more than Lang did in their two fights.Apollo was an old has been by then. And even at his best, Creed didn't have great punching power.Love the thread Tim.![]()
I'll take Drago to kill him just like he did Apollo. If he dies, he dies.
That record amazes me. Of all the fighters mentioned here, Creed's probably the very best. But he's an Ali style fighter: extremely fast, relies on the jab, great defense (though the defensive skills obviously faded the older he got.) But he's not a brawler.WHAT?!?!? Creed was 47-1 with 46 KOs in his career. He had to have some punching power. Heck, he put Balboa down more than Drago did, more than Lang did in their two fights.Apollo was an old has been by then. And even at his best, Creed didn't have great punching power.Love the thread Tim.![]()
I'll take Drago to kill him just like he did Apollo. If he dies, he dies.
Interesting, but it took Rocky 15 rounds against Drago and after 3 rounds Clubber would be worn out. All Drago would do is take the punishment for 3 rounds and then break him.Clubber knocks out Drago in round one of a slugfestDrago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!
According to Rocky: The Ultimate Guide, Ivan Drago wasn't permitted to resume his boxing career after his loss to Rocky Balboa because of the special circumstance that he could not officially turn pro in the USSR. Ivan Drago turned professional after the fall of the Soviet Union and accumulated a record of 31-1 (31 KO) while also winning a portion of the Heavyweight title. He never unified the title or fought the very top contenders (as a pro) because of promotional politics. It is possible that Drago defeated Tommy Gunn for the Heavyweight Championship. Drago seems to have retired the Champion, perhaps due to lack of success. The Heavyweight title may have gone to Mason Dixon's unnamed opponent. His only defeat as a pro or an amateur fighter was at the hands of Rocky Balboa.
Styles make fights. Hagler destroys tommy hearns in 3 rounds but goes 15 with robeto duran who turns around and gets knocked out in one round by hearns...thats just one example of many .Interesting, but it took Rocky 15 rounds against Drago and after 3 rounds Clubber would be worn out. All Drago would do is take the punishment for 3 rounds and then break him.Clubber knocks out Drago in round one of a slugfestDrago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!
that's a silly question. I don't deal with hypotheticalsWho wins between Mr. T and Dolph Lundgren? Real fight.
I didn't know he was French. Now I'm even more confident about Clubber's chances.Drago: "I pity ze foool!"
Lundgren holds a rank of 3rd dan black belt in Kyokushin Karate and was European champion in 1980 and 1981. I like Lundgren in that fight.Who wins between Mr. T and Dolph Lundgren? Real fight.
Hearns lost that fight because he broke his hand splitting Hagler's dome. But instead of sniveling...he continued to fight and bomb away with the other hand until he was caught.Healthy Hearns wins that fight. He staggered Hagler with that shot...even as Hagler ducked his forehead into it.Styles make fights. Hagler destroys tommy hearns in 3 rounds but goes 15 with robeto duran who turns around and gets knocked out in one round by hearns...thats just one example of many .Interesting, but it took Rocky 15 rounds against Drago and after 3 rounds Clubber would be worn out. All Drago would do is take the punishment for 3 rounds and then break him.Clubber knocks out Drago in round one of a slugfestDrago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!
'tdoss said:Hearns lost that fight because he broke his hand splitting Hagler's dome. But instead of sniveling...he continued to fight and bomb away with the other hand until he was caught.Healthy Hearns wins that fight. He staggered Hagler with that shot...even as Hagler ducked his forehead into it.'BustedKnuckles said:Styles make fights. Hagler destroys tommy hearns in 3 rounds but goes 15 with robeto duran who turns around and gets knocked out in one round by hearns...thats just one example of many .'cstu said:Interesting, but it took Rocky 15 rounds against Drago and after 3 rounds Clubber would be worn out. All Drago would do is take the punishment for 3 rounds and then break him.Clubber knocks out Drago in round one of a slugfestDrago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!

HAGLER didnt just beat HEARNS he CRUSHED hearns and it wasnt by some lucky one punch KO , it was a systematic beat down like chopping down a tree. Hearns was facing one of the all time best middleweights in history and while Hagler was on the downside of his prime he was still too much for a blown up welterweight like Hearns. Second point that bothers me is the whole broken hand excuse...gimmi a break(no pun intended) , how many fighters have broken a hand during a fight and either went the distance or won the fight with one good hand...now if hearns was such a great ''boxer '' than surely he could have jabbed and moved around and boxed hagler and at least lasted longer than he did, but he couldnt because Hagler was hell bent on destroying Hearns and no matter what Hearns did that night Hagler would not be denied...period. Styles make fights and Haglers style is perfect to beat guys like Hearns, tall rangy guys like Fulgencio Obelmejias cant stand up to Haglers relentless pressure.Hearns didnt box Hagler because Hagler imposed his will on Hearns and he would do that if they fought 10 times in a row...and for what its worth hagler had one of the greatest jaws in boxing and i dont think a heavyweight could have knocked Hagler out cold but we all know Hearns can be knocked out dont we?? lets deal with facts not hypotheticals. Hagler made a tactical error when he fought Leonard, he fought orthodox at the start of the fight giving away crucial rounds AND he tried to out box leonard , had he fought leonard the way he fought hearns my guess he would have knocked leonard out, but thats just a guess. Thirdly What would Hagler gain by giving a fighter that he beat so decisively a rematch, he knew he was at the end of his career and only had a few fights left in him, why waste them on Hearns...it was a no win situation ...if the fight was even remotely close or controversial than ya, he would have given hearns a rematch im sure.'tdoss said:Hearns lost that fight because he broke his hand splitting Hagler's dome. But instead of sniveling...he continued to fight and bomb away with the other hand until he was caught.Healthy Hearns wins that fight. He staggered Hagler with that shot...even as Hagler ducked his forehead into it.'BustedKnuckles said:Styles make fights. Hagler destroys tommy hearns in 3 rounds but goes 15 with robeto duran who turns around and gets knocked out in one round by hearns...thats just one example of many .'cstu said:Interesting, but it took Rocky 15 rounds against Drago and after 3 rounds Clubber would be worn out. All Drago would do is take the punishment for 3 rounds and then break him.Clubber knocks out Drago in round one of a slugfestDrago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!
Remember though that Hagler won the unanimous decision in that fight. Then Duran fought Hearns and got knocked out. Duran was clearly on the downside of his career at that point.HAGLER didnt just beat HEARNS he CRUSHED hearns and it wasnt by some lucky one punch KO , it was a systematic beat down like chopping down a tree. Hearns was facing one of the all time best middleweights in history and while Hagler was on the downside of his prime he was still too much for a blown up welterweight like Hearns. Second point that bothers me is the whole broken hand excuse...gimmi a break(no pun intended) , how many fighters have broken a hand during a fight and either went the distance or won the fight with one good hand...now if hearns was such a great ''boxer '' than surely he could have jabbed and moved around and boxed hagler and at least lasted longer than he did, but he couldnt because Hagler was hell bent on destroying Hearns and no matter what Hearns did that night Hagler would not be denied...period. Styles make fights and Haglers style is perfect to beat guys like Hearns, tall rangy guys like Fulgencio Obelmejias cant stand up to Haglers relentless pressure.Hearns didnt box Hagler because Hagler imposed his will on Hearns and he would do that if they fought 10 times in a row...and for what its worth hagler had one of the greatest jaws in boxing and i dont think a heavyweight could have knocked Hagler out cold but we all know Hearns can be knocked out dont we?? lets deal with facts not hypotheticals. Hagler made a tactical error when he fought Leonard, he fought orthodox at the start of the fight giving away crucial rounds AND he tried to out box leonard , had he fought leonard the way he fought hearns my guess he would have knocked leonard out, but thats just a guess. Thirdly What would Hagler gain by giving a fighter that he beat so decisively a rematch, he knew he was at the end of his career and only had a few fights left in him, why waste them on Hearns...it was a no win situation ...if the fight was even remotely close or controversial than ya, he would have given hearns a rematch im sure.'tdoss said:Hearns lost that fight because he broke his hand splitting Hagler's dome. But instead of sniveling...he continued to fight and bomb away with the other hand until he was caught.Healthy Hearns wins that fight. He staggered Hagler with that shot...even as Hagler ducked his forehead into it.'BustedKnuckles said:Styles make fights. Hagler destroys tommy hearns in 3 rounds but goes 15 with robeto duran who turns around and gets knocked out in one round by hearns...thats just one example of many .'cstu said:Interesting, but it took Rocky 15 rounds against Drago and after 3 rounds Clubber would be worn out. All Drago would do is take the punishment for 3 rounds and then break him.Clubber knocks out Drago in round one of a slugfestDrago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!
Hearns had Hagler beat in the first but couldn't capitalize on it because the blow that staggered Hagler was the one that broke his hand.And sure there's been times when fighters could hang in there and extend the fight a few rounds until the hand numbed up but we're talking about Hagler here. He was relentless and wasn't letting up for even a second...when the ref checked Hagler's cut, he knew he had to press the issue even more to avoid a stoppage. There was no way that fight was going to last more than a few rounds. Without Hearns' devastating right...what can he do? Jab a bit and hope to move until he could buy time for the hand. It was a forgone conclusion once that hand broke.HAGLER didnt just beat HEARNS he CRUSHED hearns and it wasnt by some lucky one punch KO , it was a systematic beat down like chopping down a tree. Hearns was facing one of the all time best middleweights in history and while Hagler was on the downside of his prime he was still too much for a blown up welterweight like Hearns. Second point that bothers me is the whole broken hand excuse...gimmi a break(no pun intended) , how many fighters have broken a hand during a fight and either went the distance or won the fight with one good hand...now if hearns was such a great ''boxer '' than surely he could have jabbed and moved around and boxed hagler and at least lasted longer than he did, but he couldnt because Hagler was hell bent on destroying Hearns and no matter what Hearns did that night Hagler would not be denied...period. Styles make fights and Haglers style is perfect to beat guys like Hearns, tall rangy guys like Fulgencio Obelmejias cant stand up to Haglers relentless pressure.Hearns didnt box Hagler because Hagler imposed his will on Hearns and he would do that if they fought 10 times in a row...and for what its worth hagler had one of the greatest jaws in boxing and i dont think a heavyweight could have knocked Hagler out cold but we all know Hearns can be knocked out dont we?? lets deal with facts not hypotheticals. Hagler made a tactical error when he fought Leonard, he fought orthodox at the start of the fight giving away crucial rounds AND he tried to out box leonard , had he fought leonard the way he fought hearns my guess he would have knocked leonard out, but thats just a guess. Thirdly What would Hagler gain by giving a fighter that he beat so decisively a rematch, he knew he was at the end of his career and only had a few fights left in him, why waste them on Hearns...it was a no win situation ...if the fight was even remotely close or controversial than ya, he would have given hearns a rematch im sure.'tdoss said:Hearns lost that fight because he broke his hand splitting Hagler's dome. But instead of sniveling...he continued to fight and bomb away with the other hand until he was caught.Healthy Hearns wins that fight. He staggered Hagler with that shot...even as Hagler ducked his forehead into it.'BustedKnuckles said:Styles make fights. Hagler destroys tommy hearns in 3 rounds but goes 15 with robeto duran who turns around and gets knocked out in one round by hearns...thats just one example of many .'cstu said:Interesting, but it took Rocky 15 rounds against Drago and after 3 rounds Clubber would be worn out. All Drago would do is take the punishment for 3 rounds and then break him.Clubber knocks out Drago in round one of a slugfestDrago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!
I voted Drago, but if the match occurred after the Rocky IV bout I might go the other way. Once Drago had been hurt and taken out by Balboa, Clubber might be able to get into his head.
Also, all bets are off if there is pre-match drug screening.
I nominate this as Tim's best thread ever.
How the hell do you know that?Apollo was an old has been by then. And even at his best, Creed didn't have great punching power.Love the thread Tim.![]()
I'll take Drago to kill him just like he did Apollo. If he dies, he dies.
He's also a member of Mensa. Which just ####### boggles my (inferior) mind for some reason.Lundgren holds a rank of 3rd dan black belt in Kyokushin Karate and was European champion in 1980 and 1981. I like Lundgren in that fight.Who wins between Mr. T and Dolph Lundgren? Real fight.
The Count of Monte Fisto?How can you say that about the King of Sting?
This whole''if hagler gave hearns a rematch '' crap drives me crazy...they both had the same amount of time to train and develope a fight plan and then they fought...best man wins...and hagler was the best man in that fight...period. In my opinion the only reasons a rematch should be in order between fighters is if there was a controversial stoppage( head butt ) ...the scoring was waaay off and something smelled bad or the fight was so exciting and competative the fans wanted more(gatti vs ward for example)...while the fight was awesome for as long as it lasted haglers stoppage of hearns was so decisive with hearns litterally being carried`like a child by his handlers i saw no reason for a rematch without hearns doing something in his next few fights to earn a rematch....by then it was too late because hagler pretty much blew his last real load on mugabi...he was 75 % of what he was at his best vs leonard and he never looked back...so just deal with the fact that while hearns was a machine of distruction in most of his fights he just didnt have it vs hagler...case closed.Hearns had Hagler beat in the first but couldn't capitalize on it because the blow that staggered Hagler was the one that broke his hand.And sure there's been times when fighters could hang in there and extend the fight a few rounds until the hand numbed up but we're talking about Hagler here. He was relentless and wasn't letting up for even a second...when the ref checked Hagler's cut, he knew he had to press the issue even more to avoid a stoppage. There was no way that fight was going to last more than a few rounds. Without Hearns' devastating right...what can he do? Jab a bit and hope to move until he could buy time for the hand. It was a forgone conclusion once that hand broke.HAGLER didnt just beat HEARNS he CRUSHED hearns and it wasnt by some lucky one punch KO , it was a systematic beat down like chopping down a tree. Hearns was facing one of the all time best middleweights in history and while Hagler was on the downside of his prime he was still too much for a blown up welterweight like Hearns. Second point that bothers me is the whole broken hand excuse...gimmi a break(no pun intended) , how many fighters have broken a hand during a fight and either went the distance or won the fight with one good hand...now if hearns was such a great ''boxer '' than surely he could have jabbed and moved around and boxed hagler and at least lasted longer than he did, but he couldnt because Hagler was hell bent on destroying Hearns and no matter what Hearns did that night Hagler would not be denied...period. Styles make fights and Haglers style is perfect to beat guys like Hearns, tall rangy guys like Fulgencio Obelmejias cant stand up to Haglers relentless pressure.Hearns didnt box Hagler because Hagler imposed his will on Hearns and he would do that if they fought 10 times in a row...and for what its worth hagler had one of the greatest jaws in boxing and i dont think a heavyweight could have knocked Hagler out cold but we all know Hearns can be knocked out dont we?? lets deal with facts not hypotheticals. Hagler made a tactical error when he fought Leonard, he fought orthodox at the start of the fight giving away crucial rounds AND he tried to out box leonard , had he fought leonard the way he fought hearns my guess he would have knocked leonard out, but thats just a guess. Thirdly What would Hagler gain by giving a fighter that he beat so decisively a rematch, he knew he was at the end of his career and only had a few fights left in him, why waste them on Hearns...it was a no win situation ...if the fight was even remotely close or controversial than ya, he would have given hearns a rematch im sure.Hearns lost that fight because he broke his hand splitting Hagler's dome. But instead of sniveling...he continued to fight and bomb away with the other hand until he was caught.Healthy Hearns wins that fight. He staggered Hagler with that shot...even as Hagler ducked his forehead into it.Styles make fights. Hagler destroys tommy hearns in 3 rounds but goes 15 with robeto duran who turns around and gets knocked out in one round by hearns...thats just one example of many .Interesting, but it took Rocky 15 rounds against Drago and after 3 rounds Clubber would be worn out. All Drago would do is take the punishment for 3 rounds and then break him.Clubber knocks out Drago in round one of a slugfestDrago , like all european, fighters fights straight up and with no head movement, his style was made for Clubber who would bob n weave to get inside of Drago`s reach and he would bust Drago`s ribs forcing Drago to drop his hands thus exposing his chin to Clubbers vicious uppercuts and hooks...all power punches, Drago would have no answer and would get nailed as he tries to tie up Clubber...the combo that ends the fight would be a left right left to the ribs followed immediately by a powerful over hand right and left hook to Drago`s exposed jaw...down goes Drago down goes Drago down goes Drago !!!!!!!
And the rematch comment is just pure ridiculous nonsense. There was EVERY reason in the world to have that fight again.
It really doesn't matter...we're not going to reach each other on this point so I'll just end it here.
Drago is all show with no heart. He`s never had a tough fight because hes so big and powerful. He is a man made mutant made from chemicals and high tech machines. Clubber earned his stripes the old fashioned hard way. Training like a gladiator in dark hardcore gyms . The way Rocky beat Clubber was with speed. The way Rocky beat Drago was with heart. Drago has neither speed nor heart.Clubber Lang is just too angry to lose to a plodding Drago.I doubt Clubber goes 3 rounds.
Ivan Drago pretty much invented sports science.
