Coach Honesty Rating (1 Viewer)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

@Joe Bryant’s topic about reporting got me to thinking about team coaches, and their level of honesty/accuracy.

A beat writer or national reporter can cite sources, but what if the sources are cagey or known to be less than honest? 

Between the lot of us we should be able to offer up insight on pretty much every coach in the league based on experience with injured players or years of listening to their particular brand of coach-speak. 

Maybe a good idea to have a topic that can be easily referred to with ratings for coaches by team homers? 
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Kyle Shamahan, “overall I’d say Shanny is 75% honest. He gets a little Pete Carroll-esque Pollyanna with minor sprains and strains but he’s very accurate with more severe injury estimates.” - @Hot Sauce Guy

“Sean McVay and the Rams have to be among the absolute worst.” - @rockaction

“I think Arians is one of the least cryptic of the coaches.”

“Mike Zimmer pants on fire part of the spectrum.” - @Biabreakable

“Pete Carroll has to be about the most honest coach in the league. Most honest takes I’ve ever seen” - @I-ROK, said on Opposite Day with heavy sarcasm.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Kyle Shanahan:

• Largely accurate with regard to long-term injuries (see: Debo, Aiyuk)

• Cagey / overly optimistic with shorter term / in-game injuries. (See: Mostert missing 2 games when expected to miss none) 

overall I’d say Shanny is 75% honest. He gets a little Pete Carroll-esque Pollyanna with minor sprains and strains but he’s very accurate with more severe injury estimates. 

 

[I-ROK]

Pete Carroll has to be about the most honest coach in the league. Most honest takes I’ve ever seen

 

[rockaction]

Sean McVay and the Rams have to be among the absolute worst.

 

[Biabreakable]

I think Arians is one of the least cryptic of the coaches.

Mike Zimmer pants on fire part of the spectrum.

 

[I-ROK]

Pete Carroll has to be about the most honest coach in the league. Most honest takes I’ve ever seen

 

[TZMarkie]

 Well.............. I'd always heard that PETE CARROLL and JERRY JONES (not a coach I know) that they historically can NOT be trusted on anything.

 Thats just what I remember reading several times over the years.

Let's be fair, the coaches can and WILL say things at times that can be misleading, and they can downright mislead the public with injury reports if they want to.

(Player X is limited in practice, we "hope" he will be OK to play), Then come game time player X is 100% and goes off like a Roman candle.

As far as I'm concerned, we should use everything at our disposals, but ALSO not always give ironclad trust in what the coaches say....and play/not play our players accordingly using our own judgement.

That aside, any list that shows which coaches tend to be "more truthful and transparent than others" has value too.  I'm all for this.

 TZM

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I was afraid of that. I shall un-quote you. Although he was totally accurate about Carson. Chew chew chew chew chew 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That aside, any list that shows which coaches tend to be "more truthful and transparent than others" has value too.  I'm all for this.

Yeah, i mean - we all take coach-speak with a grain of salt. Like when an OC or HC says, "we'd like to get so-and-so player more involved" - I mean, that's the OC or HC, literally the person who''s job it is to get them involved or not, so saying they'd "like to" rings super hollow. 

But overall, I think we have enough experience with NFL coaches to figure out who's more consistently truthful/transparent.