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I'd like to solicit everyone's favorite boxing out drills. The only thing that has even remotely worked for my team is a 1 on 1 "king of the hill"-type drill where two kids try to box each other out, get the rebound, and then put it back up and score (winner stays on). I've tried a bunch of full team drills but those have had 0 impact. This has all followed repeated instruction on form. It's just so unintuitive for the kids.
Bribery. Like so many other 5th graders, these guys got cooked on the boards early last year. No drill worked, they knew what to do, they just didn't do it. So we started tracking net rebounds and our guys owed a ladder for every rebound lost, up to 5, beyond that, push ups too. But if they had more? The coaches owed the same. It took a couple games, but us coaches got in much better shape late last season and we've only needed to go to this well one time this year. Ultimately, intentionality is needed to develop the muscle memory and that's more likely to happen if the kids are having fun with it. And the kids had a lot of fun with this.
 
I'd like to solicit everyone's favorite boxing out drills. The only thing that has even remotely worked for my team is a 1 on 1 "king of the hill"-type drill where two kids try to box each other out, get the rebound, and then put it back up and score (winner stays on). I've tried a bunch of full team drills but those have had 0 impact. This has all followed repeated instruction on form. It's just so unintuitive for the kids.
Would do some 3v3 rebounding, no blood, no foul. So many refs ball watch and let you get away with almost anything. Izzo used to say that if they didn't get called on two rebound fouls/half they weren't being aggressive enough on the glass.
 
I'd like to solicit everyone's favorite boxing out drills. The only thing that has even remotely worked for my team is a 1 on 1 "king of the hill"-type drill where two kids try to box each other out, get the rebound, and then put it back up and score (winner stays on). I've tried a bunch of full team drills but those have had 0 impact. This has all followed repeated instruction on form. It's just so unintuitive for the kids.
Bribery. Like so many other 5th graders, these guys got cooked on the boards early last year. No drill worked, they knew what to do, they just didn't do it. So we started tracking net rebounds and our guys owed a ladder for every rebound lost, up to 5, beyond that, push ups too. But if they had more? The coaches owed the same. It took a couple games, but us coaches got in much better shape late last season and we've only needed to go to this well one time this year. Ultimately, intentionality is needed to develop the muscle memory and that's more likely to happen if the kids are having fun with it. And the kids had a lot of fun with this.
I do bribery for taking charges - Snickers bar for each charge taken. One of my u18 kids averages over one/game
 
I am an adamant proponent of M2M. I refuse to play zone in youth levels. I start off telling the parents and assistant coaches that are new to working with me that we will play M2M even if it costs us games. That being said, I would say as you get to Jr High ages then a junk defense is 'allowable' as long as M2M is your 'base' defense, your kids have a good understanding of playing M2M and that when you install the junk you actually teach the concepts and whys to the kids versus 'stand here and guard this area'. I do think that that can help increase their basketball IQ. Explaining and teaching how and when and why you will use the junk versus a M2M is, in itself, a teaching/development opportunity for the kids. That is my take.
If I was the HS coach in this district I would be thrilled
Our school isn't really a feeder to the school local school district. The kids generally go about 40% to one particular catholic HS, 40% to the local public HS and then the rest scattered to other Catholic HS and other public HS. Most of our boys do not have basketball as their top sport. I think most have it as #2 sport but I think only one boy on the A team has bball as his top sport and I think only one on B as well. Most have football, a few baseball and I think one soccer. My son does want to play football in fall and basketball in winter and my guess track in spring but maybe he will give lacrosse a try.

Our AD does pull usually coaches from the local HS for try out evaluations so they are familiar with our boys. The Catholic schools... about 4 that most go to but but another 4 or so that that pick up some kids here and there. I am sure that they pay attention to the league playoffs in Jr High to scout.

Speaking of evaluations.... I was talking to one of the fathers of one of the kids we had on the game yesterday. He has a lot of contacts of fathers he knows from other schools in our league. He was saying that all the other schools are pissed that my son and the other A level player are on a B team let alone on the same B team.
 
I'd like to solicit everyone's favorite boxing out drills. The only thing that has even remotely worked for my team is a 1 on 1 "king of the hill"-type drill where two kids try to box each other out, get the rebound, and then put it back up and score (winner stays on). I've tried a bunch of full team drills but those have had 0 impact. This has all followed repeated instruction on form. It's just so unintuitive for the kids.
We do a few... one that I do likely the most is 3 second box out drill. Loser runs a lap. (Simply line up two boys... one defense, one offense... ball on the ground. Whistle blows they defender has to box out and offense has 3 seconds to get to the ball) works well to get them time both boxing out and defeating box outs.

I place emphasis on rebounding in practice and every game. We talk about our "3 Keys to Win" which are: Defense. Rebounding. Passing. Literally every game I drill that into them. Kids will focus on what you focus on. If they fail to do boxing out then I will let them know that they will be running suicides for the number of times they fail to box out. My teams don't get out rebounded.
 
22-2
29-18

We demolished this team in the 1st half. They didn't score until we went into mercy rules (up by 15) then they had one kid that had a spot that he would hit a 15 footer on demand. 6 times in a row. Our boys got a little sloppy in the 2nd and let them get back under mercy rules.

My son had the top score this game, at 14, which outside of yesterday's game where my other A player did not play is the first time this season. He has several real nice drives to the basket where he is starting to get an idea of how to use his speed, size and strength advantage to his benefit. His offensive skillset has really improved this year which is great to see. He is still a great defender that can defend anyone on A or B leagues and a very good rebounder.

Late in the game... a play happened where the other teams player traveled and then was fouled. Bang bang. One ref called travel and the other foul. My assistant pointed out (twice that the other ref called travel... not upset or anything, more like an observation. I was standing up and one of the other teams assistants barks "he pushed him!" (Almost like it was a flagrant foul or something which it was no where near nor even a hard foul). I looked at him, nodded my head in acknowledgement and my hands up like "ok". He just stares at me... the only way I can describe it is something I haven't used since I was a teenager but mad dogging me. Again he barks "he pushed him" and I gave him a "give me a break look" and told him the one thing that has never once in the history of mankind de-escalated a situation "relax". He barks back "don't tell me to relax" which at this time the refs intervened and said something to him which I did not hear. End of conflict. At the end of the game we shook hands. I was wondering what he would do... he made it a point to turn away from me and half shake my hand. Ok. Whatever. To the HC I shook his hand and told him "you guys played us the best so far this season" and he said something like "really?" And I said "yea, good luck". As I turned away I heard the assistant immediately ask all angry "what did he say to you?!" Which I just smiled to myself as I walked away thinking dude.... I am living rent free in your head.

It was funny though... during the game when they made their run and made a couple of plays outside of their free shots in mercy rule... they cheered and shouted like they were in the championship game and actually closer to winning than they were.
 
I'd like to solicit everyone's favorite boxing out drills. The only thing that has even remotely worked for my team is a 1 on 1 "king of the hill"-type drill where two kids try to box each other out, get the rebound, and then put it back up and score (winner stays on). I've tried a bunch of full team drills but those have had 0 impact. This has all followed repeated instruction on form. It's just so unintuitive for the kids.
Would do some 3v3 rebounding, no blood, no foul. So many refs ball watch and let you get away with almost anything. Izzo used to say that if they didn't get called on two rebound fouls/half they weren't being aggressive enough on the glass.

I'd like to solicit everyone's favorite boxing out drills. The only thing that has even remotely worked for my team is a 1 on 1 "king of the hill"-type drill where two kids try to box each other out, get the rebound, and then put it back up and score (winner stays on). I've tried a bunch of full team drills but those have had 0 impact. This has all followed repeated instruction on form. It's just so unintuitive for the kids.
We do a few... one that I do likely the most is 3 second box out drill. Loser runs a lap. (Simply line up two boys... one defense, one offense... ball on the ground. Whistle blows they defender has to box out and offense has 3 seconds to get to the ball) works well to get them time both boxing out and defeating box outs.
Tried both of these. I may just need more bribery/threats.
 
23-2
31-12

Tough game. Down two kids so I have 6 going.... 5 of them coughing every other step they took and my son was definitely not feeling well (I saw the same ref today from this game which was last night and he even remarked how he could tell my son wasn't 100%). They pretty much all looked low energy. We actually did not score first (I think that is the second time this entire season) and was down 5-0 for a bit. One of their kids hit a wing 3 with a bank (I am going to say it was more luck than skill) and then another 2. We trailed the majority of the 1st half but then climbed up to be 3 over them, which I think was 12-9 score. They dug down and found some extra energy and then started playing closer to our normal and we then had the game easily in hand. This is a team even with us not being 100%, they should never have been in the game with us at all.

We now have 1 game left in each league. Both against the same team and both at their gym (which I HATE this court with a passion.... smaller court with a low ceiling that has support beams crossing the court- a 3 with proper arch at the top of the key will get rejected every time) the first is tomorrow night and then the final is next week- then playoffs. It is hard to know what to expect from this team. In one league they are 4-6 and then other 9-2 (not full standings as they do not get updated ongoing plus maybe not accurate as one league shows us with a loss). A father on our other team said they were the worst team he saw... which doesn't make sense to me as 1-19 between the two leagues and another one that is winless in one league but not in the other league and they were less skilled than the team that one a game. The only thing I can think of is that they have a star player that makes an impact and happened to miss the game with our other team. If we win these two games then that is an undefeated season in two leagues for regular season which will be a nice achievement for the boys.

We also have a tournament we are in. I *think* we have one game in it and that will be the championship? It is very confusing. Instead of brackets they guy sends out a word doc with the game times. As far as I can tell there is only 3, including us, teams in our grade and B level.... but this is such a trainwreck, we could be put in with the A teams.
 
3-4-2
5-3

My litte guys. Maybe a little stagnant on improvement after making a big jump recently but they have come a long way. They got a beautiful give and go done through a zone and that kind of ended up being a bad thing because then they tried to force it after that success and we had like 5 turnovers (even though I kept telling them not to pass if there is no lane there). They have a tendency to dribble wandering around the 3 line (defense has to stay within 3 line) or stand there.... then one of the boys tries to force things and will take on two or three guys. But when they listen, they actually do well. 3 regular season games left for them. There are no standings or playoffs but we did enter a tournament. The bad news is the kid that has the insane handles team just entered so.... winning the tournament will be a tall order but they will get some more paying time to develop so that is good.
 
Get to coach the u18s at our club for a few weeks while the regular coach is taking exams. I normally get them once a week when they train with the men. The entire team is actually u16 and looking to make a run at NBBL (Bundesliga for u19) in the next year or two. This is the highest u18 league unless you play NBBL. The other team came out playing 1-2-2 and running flex. Call TO and make a defensive adjustment- switching everything, creeping in the ball side corner. Our run and jump starts turning them over and we lead the break 40-23. Start the second half on a 21-2 run. My SG has 19 of them (5/6 behind the arc, finished with 7) and and an assist. We dial it back a little bit. I only sub 5-for-5 half way thru the quarters - I am normally subbing liberally for fresh legs, including every FT to stop the game and set up the press. Ended up winning 89-57. Other coach was heated that we pressed 40 minuutes - that is how we play. I just reponded that his feelings weren't one of my top priorities and that we need to build up for Bavarian Championships - if we qualify - and be ready for NBBL qualification in the summer. Need to put more time into this team. Our rotations, spacing, vision in the press are crap but we get away with a lot due to athleticism. Lot's of potential.
 
24-2
25-10

We started off slow. They got up 5-0 on us after a 3 (I am going to call it luck as it was banked in from the wing) they kept us from getting really off for a while and we ended at the half up by 3 which is good for them considering how we normally play most teams. Pretty much my entire teams is either getting over being sick or still has a cough so I am not sure how much that is impacting their play but they finally got going in the second and we took the game from there on. That was the season finale for one league which means we went undefeated and have the top seed with a bye in the playoffs. Our next game, which is the season finale for the other league is against the same exact team. They are a well coached team that just does not have a lot of natural athleticism but if you make mistakes they will take advantage of it. Let's see if we can beat them again to go undefeated in both leagues.

We were supposed to play tonight in a tournament game but it has been cancelled to reschedule due to weather (this is the worse run tournament ever.... I am not even sure how many teams are in our division but from what I can tell, there is 3 including us). The game would have been against our other B team. It will be fun, probably the only team that I will have to change the normal matchup we go with which is my son on whoever their point guard is and instead assign my son to their big guy who is an A level player and easily their biggest offensive threat. My son gives up a little height but is much quicker/faster and can match him in strength. I think he can shut him down and keep him off the boards well enough.
 
You get that end of year A team vs B team scrimmage lined up? How's the A team doing?
Things are going to get hectic right now but I think I will approach them about playing towards the end. If they get bounced from playoffs and we are still in it then I will ask them to come scrimmage us to help us get ready.... if I don't position it something like that then I have a feeling that they will decline.

In the league that just ended they did well... 8-3 with the third seed. The 1 and 2 seeds are teams that have been tough teams in previous years. The 1 seed has the best player in the league and the only time one of my teams played him we were up double digits right up until my son got in foul trouble after guarding him and doing a good job of keeping him somewhat in check and then we got spanked. The other team was part of the team we beat for our championship in 4th grade and has always been good.

In the other league 5-5 and 8th seed as of now.
 
You get that end of year A team vs B team scrimmage lined up? How's the A team doing?
Things are going to get hectic right now but I think I will approach them about playing towards the end. If they get bounced from playoffs and we are still in it then I will ask them to come scrimmage us to help us get ready.... if I don't position it something like that then I have a feeling that they will decline.

In the league that just ended they did well... 8-3 with the third seed. The 1 and 2 seeds are teams that have been tough teams in previous years. The 1 seed has the best player in the league and the only time one of my teams played him we were up double digits right up until my son got in foul trouble after guarding him and doing a good job of keeping him somewhat in check and then we got spanked. The other team was part of the team we beat for our championship in 4th grade and has always been good.

In the other league 5-5 and 8th seed as of now.
The A team practiced after my little guys tonight. I found out that I was looking at old standings and they are actually the 5 seed because they lost a game to the worst teams in the league... I am pretty sure that teams only win unless they happened to win their other game that hasn't been updated in standings as well. I can not fathom how they could take an L from that team.

It is significant because it puts them in the same side of the bracket as the 1 seed now and that is a tough game, which I expected them to be.

I did bring up playing a scrimmage (in the context of practicing for playoffs) and they said they are up for it... so we shall see...
 
I did bring up playing a scrimmage (in the context of practicing for playoffs) and they said they are up for it... so we shall see...
Nice. I hope you put up a good showing.
I don't see a route to winning but I think we can put up something that is respectable. I think it will be good for my son and my other A player to play against them. I am playing with the idea of when we have that set of inviting the AD to the game.... but I kind of feel like he would take it the wrong way in as much as me pointing out that I was right and he was wrong type of thing.
 
A lot of confirmation bias this morning with the junk defense we implemented last month. We knew our opponent in the semis was going to be a challenge, but they're from the other side of the city and no one we know had played them before, so we didn't know what we were getting into.

As they slowly started to stream into the gym while the game before us wrapped up, we had a good idea how these guys won. They're big. And once we got onto the floor for warm-ups, we noticed they're athletic too. Uh oh...the one type of team we knew we'd match up poorly against. I went over to our HC with about 3 mins before tip and suggested plan B as our post guys are going to get rolled. We called the team over early and I pulled my son and our other little scrappy guy to the side of the huddle. Little men, you're defending 50. Yes, I know he's a foot taller than you. That's not why you're on him. You're denying entry to the post - if they're getting the ball to him it's over your head or because you're closing on an undefended shooter. If the ball gets to him, you go low at the ball while our bigs go high and disrupt the shot. I reaffirmed with our bigs your ball side role is the block and off ball role is help. He's either going to catch the ball in front of you or under the hoop in traffic, that block is yours. Let's go!

Things went...okay, for a half. Our defense was good (real good), ping-ponging from this junk D to M2M, keeping them guessing, but our offense was a mess. Lazy passes on press break and lack of movement off ball resulted in more TO's than usual. When we play good aggressive D it usually translates to the same on O, but it wasn't today. We weren't able to create fast breaks through our D, had to setup our half court O, and the kids didn't respond well to the size disadvantage. Despite that we were up 16-12 late in the 1H, but they rattled off 7 straight to finish the half off more turnovers. As we were telling the kids at half if one of their guards gets hot and that's how they beat us then so be it. Outside of that, we get back to the basics on O and be assertive to the glass (9 FT attempts), this game's ours. But they adjusted and stopped trying to feed their bigs, did off ball screens for the guard we were not defending and kid buried 3 in a row. Game, set, match - and well played, coach. We played better O, hitting cutters and getting looks from inside 10' or foul line, and got it back to 6 a couple times (32-26 and 35-29), but just didn't hit enough shots, falling short 41-31.

Tremendously proud how far this group's come. It was before my time, but as third graders this team only won 2 games, the same number they lost this year. What was a 2 man show has developed into team ball with each one of them getting better in at least one new area this season. I was happy one of the other coaches focused on development to this point post-game as it allowed me to focus on going forward, that you all helped articulate. (paraphrasing) While you all have individual development opportunities that I'm happy to chat about separately, continued focus on improving M2M and basketball IQ, especially away from the ball, is how you'll break the ceiling from good-to-very good to playing in high school and maybe even beyond, if that's what you want to do. We play good team defense, but we're vulnerable to teams with more size than us, and that's what played out today. Despite that, we were still in striking distance, just too many turnovers from stagnant offense. To make the leap from good to great is neck-up, part intelligence and the rest effort. You now know your keys on defense, and you now know how to dissect the floor, but it takes focused effort in the offseason to develop them into instincts. We observed a lot of 'oh, my bad' this year, realizing after the fact what you should've done, you just didn't see it before it happened, which is fine, you're just 6th graders, but if you want to make the leap, those 'oh, my bad's' need to develop into plays / stops. You have control over that...unlike your height, you don't have control over that. But there are ways to overcome that disadvantage, keep working and getting better then let's focus on those next year.

Great season, but I'm really looking forward to a 2 week break.
 
25-2
32-9

Once again this team got to an early lead on us 4-0 but then we came back and by half were up by 17-9. My son had a ridiculous block, if he had swiped at it from an angle, he would have sent it into the atmosphere but he came right down back into the kid who immediately went to the ground holding his wrist. It was a tremendous impact and absolutely perfectly clean. I felt bad for the kid who was their best ball handler and shooter- it was late first half and he sat out the rest of the half. I do think it was more an "emotional injury" than actual injury. He came back later in the game. There were several other nice blocks, tons of steals and we owned the second half with them not scoring at all.

Another eventful moment was one of their kids had a pretty nasty dirty foul on my other A player. Which, last game he also fouled him by going straight at him and not the ball at all, so it caused a bit of a ruckus. The refs, one of which is one of the refs I am the most buddy buddy with and is a good ref, handled it well and sent the kid to sit down. My AC was heated a bit (his kid) and I had to tell him to sit and chill. The other coach took exception to him and talked back and I defused it by saying "hey, this isn't the first time." and something about let's take a second...

So- that is that. Undefeated season in our other league as well. Top seed going into playoffs.

Tomorrow will be an interesting match up. We play our school's other B team. Normally, I would be comfortable with us beating them but I will not have my other A player and my 3rd best player (both out on vacation). Their best player is their big man- he has a bit over an inch on my son but I am confident that my son can guard him and shut him down forcing the rest of the team to beat us. They are smaller but faster than all my guys. They have one boy who, if left open, can hit shots. I am not sure how that will play out- plus, we only have 5 players tomorrow so all my boys will be gassed and this is the 4 other than my son that will be gassed. On the other side, they really do not have anyone that can effectively match up against my son. I think the trick for him is that he doesn't try to do too much on his own and gets the whole team involved. We shall see.

Our first playoff game is Wed. We will have my other A player back but I will still be missing my third best player. We very well could end up playing our other B team in this game. I do think that with my other A player and my son, they can not beat us even without my second best player. Like all the other teams we play, they just can't match up athletically against them.
 
4-4-2
10-0

My little guys continue to develop well. They are playing great defense and learning how to play offense. My son was playing good defense the whole time. The first time I can ever recall seeing any 3rd grader down in defensive position the whole time with good form and step/gliding (I hate using the word 'slide' as I think it tends to make kids drag their feet back instead of explode out). I was proud of him. After the game, when we were walking out one of the kids from the other team told him "you played real good defense" He also scored twice and is showing some ability to use both hands in ball handling.

Two more 'season' games for this team and then we have a tournament as well.
 
Just finding this thread and have read through the majority of it. Good on you guys for being great parents/role models! I've been coaching rec for my son's team for a few years now. Our team just rolled our way into the championship game this coming week. Should be a good game. We lost to the other team 20-18 in the regular season before our guys really gelled. I've got a couple good scorers and athletes and several bigs. Do you guys have any tips on teaching aggressiveness in the context of scoring/rebounding for the 10U crowd? We work on 1 on 1 drills like King of the Court and box out drills, but some of the bigs lack a good bit of aggressiveness. Is that even teachable?
 
some of the bigs lack a good bit of aggressiveness. Is that even teachable?
From what I've observed, you'll have a better idea after one or more of them get physically dominated in a game. You can talk about it, demo it, and practice it, but until a kid experiences it in a game situation there's no basis for judging how they'll respond. We have 3 very different ones and they all responded differently- 1 responded TOO aggressively, 1 responded passively, and the other shut down. This wasn't a team-wide coaching moment, this was an individual one. I made some notes and pulled each of them to the side in the practice after this game, avoiding criticism, focusing on what they can do differently in practice so they respond better the next time that happens in a game.

While we lost, I was much more encouraged how they responded to someone big / stronger/ better than them this time vs when it happened before. The kid that responded too aggressively kept his negativity harnessed, ramping up the intensity, but didn't cross the line to 'hack.' The kid that responded passively had a fire lit under him - he ran into foul trouble, but none of them (3 in the first half, picked up #4 late 3rd) were 'bad' fouls. It was a war down low and his plays on the ball just resulted in too much wrist / forearm contact. Most importantly, the kid that shut down kept fighting. He's a bigger kid in poor cardio condition that's never handled adversity well. While he couldn't do a damn thing on offense, his disrupting shots and batted ball rebounds forced them to go to their guards to beat us.
 
Just finding this thread and have read through the majority of it. Good on you guys for being great parents/role models! I've been coaching rec for my son's team for a few years now. Our team just rolled our way into the championship game this coming week. Should be a good game. We lost to the other team 20-18 in the regular season before our guys really gelled. I've got a couple good scorers and athletes and several bigs. Do you guys have any tips on teaching aggressiveness in the context of scoring/rebounding for the 10U crowd? We work on 1 on 1 drills like King of the Court and box out drills, but some of the bigs lack a good bit of aggressiveness. Is that even teachable?
I still don't know how to teach this properly at the younger levels. I kind of settled on running 3v3 no-blood-no-foul rebounding. Teaching them to box out and rebound "legally" leads to them trying to to hard to stay within "the rules". Most refs in the age group are ball watchers and you are going to get away with a lot more than you should anyway, and it is easier to dial back aggression than try and turn it up a notch if you haven't practiced it. Admittedly this is one of my weaker points as a coach, but I will live with some fouls under the glass as opposed to getting manhandled and giving up possessions.
 
Just finding this thread and have read through the majority of it. Good on you guys for being great parents/role models! I've been coaching rec for my son's team for a few years now. Our team just rolled our way into the championship game this coming week. Should be a good game. We lost to the other team 20-18 in the regular season before our guys really gelled. I've got a couple good scorers and athletes and several bigs. Do you guys have any tips on teaching aggressiveness in the context of scoring/rebounding for the 10U crowd? We work on 1 on 1 drills like King of the Court and box out drills, but some of the bigs lack a good bit of aggressiveness. Is that even teachable?
I still don't know how to teach this properly at the younger levels. I kind of settled on running 3v3 no-blood-no-foul rebounding. Teaching them to box out and rebound "legally" leads to them trying to to hard to stay within "the rules". Most refs in the age group are ball watchers and you are going to get away with a lot more than you should anyway, and it is easier to dial back aggression than try and turn it up a notch if you haven't practiced it. Admittedly this is one of my weaker points as a coach, but I will live with some fouls under the glass as opposed to getting manhandled and giving up possessions.
Was it Izzo that once said (paraphrasing) if we're not getting at least a couple fouls while rebounding then we aren't playing aggressive enough? Not something to teach to 10 yo's, but it's on my mind next year for teenagers.
 
Just finding this thread and have read through the majority of it. Good on you guys for being great parents/role models! I've been coaching rec for my son's team for a few years now. Our team just rolled our way into the championship game this coming week. Should be a good game. We lost to the other team 20-18 in the regular season before our guys really gelled. I've got a couple good scorers and athletes and several bigs. Do you guys have any tips on teaching aggressiveness in the context of scoring/rebounding for the 10U crowd? We work on 1 on 1 drills like King of the Court and box out drills, but some of the bigs lack a good bit of aggressiveness. Is that even teachable?
I still don't know how to teach this properly at the younger levels. I kind of settled on running 3v3 no-blood-no-foul rebounding. Teaching them to box out and rebound "legally" leads to them trying to to hard to stay within "the rules". Most refs in the age group are ball watchers and you are going to get away with a lot more than you should anyway, and it is easier to dial back aggression than try and turn it up a notch if you haven't practiced it. Admittedly this is one of my weaker points as a coach, but I will live with some fouls under the glass as opposed to getting manhandled and giving up possessions.
Was it Izzo that once said (paraphrasing) if we're not getting at least a couple fouls while rebounding then we aren't playing aggressive enough? Not something to teach to 10 yo's, but it's on my mind next year for teenagers.
Yeah, I think i posted that here. I heard him say it at a clinic in 2000 about rebounding and screens. Hard to find the line if you don't cross it a few times. U10 might be a bit young and you'd be better served teaching skills at that age. I would go with u14, my stronger u12s practice and play up so those kids as well.
 
some of the bigs lack a good bit of aggressiveness. Is that even teachable?
From what I've observed, you'll have a better idea after one or more of them get physically dominated in a game. You can talk about it, demo it, and practice it, but until a kid experiences it in a game situation there's no basis for judging how they'll respond. We have 3 very different ones and they all responded differently- 1 responded TOO aggressively, 1 responded passively, and the other shut down. This wasn't a team-wide coaching moment, this was an individual one. I made some notes and pulled each of them to the side in the practice after this game, avoiding criticism, focusing on what they can do differently in practice so they respond better the next time that happens in a game.

While we lost, I was much more encouraged how they responded to someone big / stronger/ better than them this time vs when it happened before. The kid that responded too aggressively kept his negativity harnessed, ramping up the intensity, but didn't cross the line to 'hack.' The kid that responded passively had a fire lit under him - he ran into foul trouble, but none of them (3 in the first half, picked up #4 late 3rd) were 'bad' fouls. It was a war down low and his plays on the ball just resulted in too much wrist / forearm contact. Most importantly, the kid that shut down kept fighting. He's a bigger kid in poor cardio condition that's never handled adversity well. While he couldn't do a damn thing on offense, his disrupting shots and batted ball rebounds forced them to go to their guards to beat us.
That's good to hear. My boy and one of his good friends, who are both pretty skilled are playing up this season as just turned 9YOs in the 10U league. Both are over 5' tall already, but going into the 10U league, there are kids their size. It's been interesting seeing how they've handled not being the most skilled or tallest on the court. Both have grown a ton this season and are taking a lot of what they learned into the 3rd grader AAU season, but I'd still like them to be more aggressive on both offense and rebounding.
 
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18-27 (or something like that)

The game went pretty much along the lines of what I expected missing two of my three best players and 6 players total. My son tried to step up his game on offense but just lacks the details in his game to take over offensively. Defensively, I decided to give my big a shot at the other teams big which is their best player (A level player) and he actually did decently well against him. I placed my son on their second best player who is their ball handler and he did very well against him with several steals but with my son on the parameter we were getting beat on the boards. My son was playing aggressively on defends trying to pretty much take the team on his shoulders and picked up 3 fouls by the half. I briefly decided to see what would happen if I switched my son on their big and on their second possession he picked up his 4th. I told him that he had to keep from fouling and switched him back off the big on to their point. Soon after their point went right at him, he had position and to me it as a clear charge but it was called a blocking foul and he was out of the game. We were down already by about 5 and with my son out there was little hope of making anything happen. Overall, they ran on us (other than my son think all football defensive and offensive lineman vs a bunch of small but much faster/quicker kids) and then when they were in their set offense feed their big guy who played well. None of the game was a surprise to me. We might have been able to win a couple of if we played ten times but we would have to be much cleaner to win.

All that is ahead of us now is playoffs. First game on Wed. I will have my other A player back but not my third best player. That should be more than enough to advance though.
 
A nice thing happened today at practice for my 6th graders.... I was sitting getting my stuff together and heard "you have a 3rd grade team, right?" and I looked up and said yes and it was one of the refs in that league. He went on to say that our team had come a long way and really have developed a lot and complimenting me as a coach. That is the cool thing... both of my teams have really improved greatly through the season... that is the pay off as a coach.
 
Just finding this thread and have read through the majority of it. Good on you guys for being great parents/role models! I've been coaching rec for my son's team for a few years now. Our team just rolled our way into the championship game this coming week. Should be a good game. We lost to the other team 20-18 in the regular season before our guys really gelled. I've got a couple good scorers and athletes and several bigs. Do you guys have any tips on teaching aggressiveness in the context of scoring/rebounding for the 10U crowd? We work on 1 on 1 drills like King of the Court and box out drills, but some of the bigs lack a good bit of aggressiveness. Is that even teachable?
The way I approach it is in two big things... one, teaching technique which allows to be aggressive. For example, today I spent about half out practice time on teaching several low post moves such as reverse layup and drop step. As they got their touches, I would correct the tendency to fall away, drift or otherwise avoid contact. The second is the language I use which is all very aggressive (intentionally) such as 'attack the basket', 'go up strong', 'fight for the rebound', 'make contact and push them out'. 'read what the defense does and take it from them' (big emphasis on take)....

Different players will respond in different ways, I think largely based on their personalities. I have been working on my big all season long and a couple of games ago he showed some flashes. The game last night as well. His personality is very reserved, very quiet and his play mirrors that... all season long I have been trying to get him to back up on offensive rebounds instead of passing out or even dribbling out. I don't think there is any golden key or trick but it is just repetition of emphasis and trying to give them the confidence to be able to be aggressive in developing skillset while explaining how the moves they are making is not 'good' and that the 'right' move would have been to be more aggressive.

I will also say that the way the game is played in this day and age which is essentially if you drive it is to kick it out for a shot. I see a lot of long shots from kids that really shouldn't be shooting long but I think that is what they see- all the kids want to be the next Curry. I focus the offense with my kids to get as low as possible. I drive into them the idea of 'we dont want a good shot, we want the best shot' and then driving home the idea that the best shots are the shortest shots. The philosophy behind that helps make them more aggressive as well.
 
I will also say that the way the game is played in this day and age which is essentially if you drive it is to kick it out for a shot. I see a lot of long shots from kids that really shouldn't be shooting long but I think that is what they see- all the kids want to be the next Curry. I focus the offense with my kids to get as low as possible. I drive into them the idea of 'we dont want a good shot, we want the best shot' and then driving home the idea that the best shots are the shortest shots. The philosophy behind that helps make them more aggressive as well.
I don't think that is true at all. The shots you want are layups, freethrows, and rhythm threes in that order. Conversely, the defense is trying to take those same shots away - in the same order, which results in getting more drive and kick threes but no decent coach is telling their kids to drive so you can kick it out. You need to work on finishing so you can take advantage of those opportunities when you get to the rim, but yo also have to work on catch and shoot threes. If I see a dork on the other team we are playing him one-in-one-out on the help side and you aren't going to get many lay ups.
 
Just finding this thread and have read through the majority of it. Good on you guys for being great parents/role models! I've been coaching rec for my son's team for a few years now. Our team just rolled our way into the championship game this coming week. Should be a good game. We lost to the other team 20-18 in the regular season before our guys really gelled. I've got a couple good scorers and athletes and several bigs. Do you guys have any tips on teaching aggressiveness in the context of scoring/rebounding for the 10U crowd? We work on 1 on 1 drills like King of the Court and box out drills, but some of the bigs lack a good bit of aggressiveness. Is that even teachable?
The way I approach it is in two big things... one, teaching technique which allows to be aggressive. For example, today I spent about half out practice time on teaching several low post moves such as reverse layup and drop step. As they got their touches, I would correct the tendency to fall away, drift or otherwise avoid contact. The second is the language I use which is all very aggressive (intentionally) such as 'attack the basket', 'go up strong', 'fight for the rebound', 'make contact and push them out'. 'read what the defense does and take it from them' (big emphasis on take)....

Different players will respond in different ways, I think largely based on their personalities. I have been working on my big all season long and a couple of games ago he showed some flashes. The game last night as well. His personality is very reserved, very quiet and his play mirrors that... all season long I have been trying to get him to back up on offensive rebounds instead of passing out or even dribbling out. I don't think there is any golden key or trick but it is just repetition of emphasis and trying to give them the confidence to be able to be aggressive in developing skillset while explaining how the moves they are making is not 'good' and that the 'right' move would have been to be more aggressive.

I will also say that the way the game is played in this day and age which is essentially if you drive it is to kick it out for a shot. I see a lot of long shots from kids that really shouldn't be shooting long but I think that is what they see- all the kids want to be the next Curry. I focus the offense with my kids to get as low as possible. I drive into them the idea of 'we dont want a good shot, we want the best shot' and then driving home the idea that the best shots are the shortest shots. The philosophy behind that helps make them more aggressive as well.
Appreciate the advice. In rec it is definitely harder to get enough reps to change a player's aggressiveness in the way you discuss. In AAU or MS/HS, I could see it, though. I love the idea that language is important. I've been doing that just on a base level, but will certainly kick it up a notch. Our bigs are very much the same as yours. The first instinct on getting an offensive rebound is to dribble out of the lane. I've been preaching "just go back up" so far without a lot of success. We do have an individual offensive rebound drill where we toss the ball up to the rim and the objective is for the player to grab the rebound and go straight back up. Again, it's 1 on 0 and not as chaotic as a 5 on 5 game situation. Maybe we need to up the ante to a 2 on 2 or 3 on 3 drill?
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
 
and the other shut down.
Most importantly, the kid that shut down kept fighting. He's a bigger kid in poor cardio condition that's never handled adversity well. While he couldn't do a damn thing on offense, his disrupting shots and batted ball rebounds forced them to go to their guards to beat us.
That doesn't sound like he shut down. In my mind a kid that "shuts down" just gives up and stops trying. This description seems far from that. The fact you said he kept fighting tells me he didn't shut down at all.

Am I misunderstanding what you mean by "shut down"?
 
and the other shut down.
Most importantly, the kid that shut down kept fighting. He's a bigger kid in poor cardio condition that's never handled adversity well. While he couldn't do a damn thing on offense, his disrupting shots and batted ball rebounds forced them to go to their guards to beat us.
That doesn't sound like he shut down. In my mind a kid that "shuts down" just gives up and stops trying. This description seems far from that. The fact you said he kept fighting tells me he didn't shut down at all.

Am I misunderstanding what you mean by "shut down"?
Yes, sorry. I was talking about 2 different games. In the first one he 'shut down' - hung head after a bad play, moped down the floor, heart hearted effort, inactive feet...stuff like that. This was consistent with what we saw out of him in football when he'd get beaten by someone better than him at OL.

After we talked in practice and he found himself in a similar situation in our last game, he kept fighting, which was a major level-up for him.
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
Congrats to the team and you coach on the championship!

It is a challenge when you are coaching a team with a wide range of athletic ability and basketball skillsets. The way that our school teams are set up- they start in 3rd grade and from 3rd to 5th, the teams are split up (most grades two teams but sometimes three) "evenly" by talent level with no cuts or tryouts (the school's AD/PE teacher makes the determination on his own). From 6th to 8th it is a tryout with no cuts into an A team and then B team (or if three teams then two B teams that are split talent wise like previous years). Since 3rd grade for my 6th graders (this 6th grade team, I have a B team that has two A players that did not make the cut) there has been a huge difference from the best players to the least skilled players. It makes it hard to effectively develop everyone when their needs are very different.

Our first practice this year with the B team one of the first drills we did was a weave. It was ugly. I mean, just absolutely horrible. I had to stop and then do a drill that I haven't done since 4th grade that is a very basic passing drill. It was hilariously useless for my two A level players but I had to get the rest of the players up to be able to level that would be operational as a team. One thing that I have done through the year is being flexible in my practice plans. If I have one of the least skilled players out for a practice then I will step up the teaching and drills to be at a higher level and vice versa where if my better players are out then I will bring it down to focus on more basic fundamental building. So, more than a couple of practices, whatever I planned has been thrown out and I rebuild it as I go based on who is there and who is not there.

One thing I would suggest... I start focusing on the basics of offense- give and go, pick and roll, screens, spacing, off ball movement, etc right away from 3rd grade. Very similar to my commitment to M2M on defense- it can be ugly at first but with a long view both for the season and for their long term basketball career development- it is best. For my 3rd graderes this year... my assistant coach was not fully on board with M2M and after our first couple of games was pushing for us to abandon it because it was honestly ugly and a big reason why we lost games early on. I told him, not exactly in these words but in general, "I don't care if we lose games- it is their best interest for the long term for us to stick with it". I teach all of this in concepts and not really in an offense as they have no offensive plays or even an inbound play set up and you can really see then 'get it' over the course of the season. They have executed some beautiful give and go's in games and fairly good pick and rolls in games and they have really come a long way on defense to be the best defense I have seen from the teams we have played while we started off maybe the worse. All that to say.... teach it. Even the new kids will be able to pick it up as the season goes.
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
Congrats to the team and you coach on the championship!

It is a challenge when you are coaching a team with a wide range of athletic ability and basketball skillsets. The way that our school teams are set up- they start in 3rd grade and from 3rd to 5th, the teams are split up (most grades two teams but sometimes three) "evenly" by talent level with no cuts or tryouts (the school's AD/PE teacher makes the determination on his own). From 6th to 8th it is a tryout with no cuts into an A team and then B team (or if three teams then two B teams that are split talent wise like previous years). Since 3rd grade for my 6th graders (this 6th grade team, I have a B team that has two A players that did not make the cut) there has been a huge difference from the best players to the least skilled players. It makes it hard to effectively develop everyone when their needs are very different.

Our first practice this year with the B team one of the first drills we did was a weave. It was ugly. I mean, just absolutely horrible. I had to stop and then do a drill that I haven't done since 4th grade that is a very basic passing drill. It was hilariously useless for my two A level players but I had to get the rest of the players up to be able to level that would be operational as a team. One thing that I have done through the year is being flexible in my practice plans. If I have one of the least skilled players out for a practice then I will step up the teaching and drills to be at a higher level and vice versa where if my better players are out then I will bring it down to focus on more basic fundamental building. So, more than a couple of practices, whatever I planned has been thrown out and I rebuild it as I go based on who is there and who is not there.

One thing I would suggest... I start focusing on the basics of offense- give and go, pick and roll, screens, spacing, off ball movement, etc right away from 3rd grade. Very similar to my commitment to M2M on defense- it can be ugly at first but with a long view both for the season and for their long term basketball career development- it is best. For my 3rd graderes this year... my assistant coach was not fully on board with M2M and after our first couple of games was pushing for us to abandon it because it was honestly ugly and a big reason why we lost games early on. I told him, not exactly in these words but in general, "I don't care if we lose games- it is their best interest for the long term for us to stick with it". I teach all of this in concepts and not really in an offense as they have no offensive plays or even an inbound play set up and you can really see then 'get it' over the course of the season. They have executed some beautiful give and go's in games and fairly good pick and rolls in games and they have really come a long way on defense to be the best defense I have seen from the teams we have played while we started off maybe the worse. All that to say.... teach it. Even the new kids will be able to pick it up as the season goes.
I genuinely love your attitude toward teaching kids basketball. Thanks for sharing!
 
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39-13

2nd round of playoffs (we had a first round bye as #1 seed). This team beat our other B team in the first round. We, for whatever reason, continued to start off slow and not get going until the 2nd half. Real early on we let this team even get up on us a tad (1 or 2 point lead) and then we played to a 7 point lead by half with 13-6 score. I was really not happy with the level of effort- there was a lot of standing and watching the ball on shots instead of getting in for the rebounds as the one thing that they were doing consistently (and this was focused mostly on my two best players) that needed to change. I did not have my third best player for this game as well. He is an important piece as well as he plays consistently hard, with very good defense and gets rebounds.

My son made a couple real nice moves down low. He has really improved on this greatly this season and even though he needs to clean up the finishes a bit more, he has really added some nice moves that he is using in game. He ended with 12 points. My other A player tried some passing that he hasn't done much on through the year. One was off and the other was messed up by the player that got it but he had several others that were real nice as the defense keyed in on him and he recognized it- saw the passing lane and got the ball to the weakside to our big down low. Something I have been trying to get him to do more of all season so that was very good to see.

One thing was a foul called on my son which I did not see him touch the kid at all on a steal. So... I asked the ref "where did he hit him?" (said in a calm and relaxed voice) the ref said something (which I did not quite catch) and the game went on. At the end of the quarter, he came over and said something about reaching in.... I asked again "where did he hit him?" and then he said something about "well, he reached over with his shoulder" and again "but he didn't touch him, it isn't a foul." and then he says to me "he impeded the offensive player." which I said, "how? He didn't touch him." and he said that he saw the offensive player rear back from him when he went in from the steal. :mellow: I said "the offensive player being scared of him isn't a foul." and then he finally he said "you are right, it was a bad call." :lmao: At that point, the game was a lot closer and it was my sons 3rd foul still early in the game so it could have had an impact.

Semi-final for this league is Sunday. We apparently are playing the 4th seed (my assistant knows one of the fathers on the team and said they advanced). This team has one player that is athletic, (really the only other player in the league athletic enough to keep up with my A players other than the one player on our other B team) and was the team that first gave us any amount of a fight with us losing at half to them before we took over and beat them 21-16. We played them again with a 38-16 win that was never in doubt. I will put my son on him but I think I will have my other A player double him every other or so play just to keep him off balance. I don't think he can handle that extra pressure.

First round of other league playoffs is Saturday. It is against the bottom 16th seed.
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
Congrats to the team and you coach on the championship!

It is a challenge when you are coaching a team with a wide range of athletic ability and basketball skillsets. The way that our school teams are set up- they start in 3rd grade and from 3rd to 5th, the teams are split up (most grades two teams but sometimes three) "evenly" by talent level with no cuts or tryouts (the school's AD/PE teacher makes the determination on his own). From 6th to 8th it is a tryout with no cuts into an A team and then B team (or if three teams then two B teams that are split talent wise like previous years). Since 3rd grade for my 6th graders (this 6th grade team, I have a B team that has two A players that did not make the cut) there has been a huge difference from the best players to the least skilled players. It makes it hard to effectively develop everyone when their needs are very different.

Our first practice this year with the B team one of the first drills we did was a weave. It was ugly. I mean, just absolutely horrible. I had to stop and then do a drill that I haven't done since 4th grade that is a very basic passing drill. It was hilariously useless for my two A level players but I had to get the rest of the players up to be able to level that would be operational as a team. One thing that I have done through the year is being flexible in my practice plans. If I have one of the least skilled players out for a practice then I will step up the teaching and drills to be at a higher level and vice versa where if my better players are out then I will bring it down to focus on more basic fundamental building. So, more than a couple of practices, whatever I planned has been thrown out and I rebuild it as I go based on who is there and who is not there.

One thing I would suggest... I start focusing on the basics of offense- give and go, pick and roll, screens, spacing, off ball movement, etc right away from 3rd grade. Very similar to my commitment to M2M on defense- it can be ugly at first but with a long view both for the season and for their long term basketball career development- it is best. For my 3rd graderes this year... my assistant coach was not fully on board with M2M and after our first couple of games was pushing for us to abandon it because it was honestly ugly and a big reason why we lost games early on. I told him, not exactly in these words but in general, "I don't care if we lose games- it is their best interest for the long term for us to stick with it". I teach all of this in concepts and not really in an offense as they have no offensive plays or even an inbound play set up and you can really see then 'get it' over the course of the season. They have executed some beautiful give and go's in games and fairly good pick and rolls in games and they have really come a long way on defense to be the best defense I have seen from the teams we have played while we started off maybe the worse. All that to say.... teach it. Even the new kids will be able to pick it up as the season goes.
been coaching 30 years and still haven't used this drill. Absolutely hate it. It's not basketball movement. We do 3-man and 4 -man wide straights instead
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
Congrats to the team and you coach on the championship!

It is a challenge when you are coaching a team with a wide range of athletic ability and basketball skillsets. The way that our school teams are set up- they start in 3rd grade and from 3rd to 5th, the teams are split up (most grades two teams but sometimes three) "evenly" by talent level with no cuts or tryouts (the school's AD/PE teacher makes the determination on his own). From 6th to 8th it is a tryout with no cuts into an A team and then B team (or if three teams then two B teams that are split talent wise like previous years). Since 3rd grade for my 6th graders (this 6th grade team, I have a B team that has two A players that did not make the cut) there has been a huge difference from the best players to the least skilled players. It makes it hard to effectively develop everyone when their needs are very different.

Our first practice this year with the B team one of the first drills we did was a weave. It was ugly. I mean, just absolutely horrible. I had to stop and then do a drill that I haven't done since 4th grade that is a very basic passing drill. It was hilariously useless for my two A level players but I had to get the rest of the players up to be able to level that would be operational as a team. One thing that I have done through the year is being flexible in my practice plans. If I have one of the least skilled players out for a practice then I will step up the teaching and drills to be at a higher level and vice versa where if my better players are out then I will bring it down to focus on more basic fundamental building. So, more than a couple of practices, whatever I planned has been thrown out and I rebuild it as I go based on who is there and who is not there.

One thing I would suggest... I start focusing on the basics of offense- give and go, pick and roll, screens, spacing, off ball movement, etc right away from 3rd grade. Very similar to my commitment to M2M on defense- it can be ugly at first but with a long view both for the season and for their long term basketball career development- it is best. For my 3rd graderes this year... my assistant coach was not fully on board with M2M and after our first couple of games was pushing for us to abandon it because it was honestly ugly and a big reason why we lost games early on. I told him, not exactly in these words but in general, "I don't care if we lose games- it is their best interest for the long term for us to stick with it". I teach all of this in concepts and not really in an offense as they have no offensive plays or even an inbound play set up and you can really see then 'get it' over the course of the season. They have executed some beautiful give and go's in games and fairly good pick and rolls in games and they have really come a long way on defense to be the best defense I have seen from the teams we have played while we started off maybe the worse. All that to say.... teach it. Even the new kids will be able to pick it up as the season goes.
been coaching 30 years and still haven't used this drill. Absolutely hate it. It's not basketball movement. We do 3-man and 4 -man wide straights instead
Thanks for the update.
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
Congrats to the team and you coach on the championship!

It is a challenge when you are coaching a team with a wide range of athletic ability and basketball skillsets. The way that our school teams are set up- they start in 3rd grade and from 3rd to 5th, the teams are split up (most grades two teams but sometimes three) "evenly" by talent level with no cuts or tryouts (the school's AD/PE teacher makes the determination on his own). From 6th to 8th it is a tryout with no cuts into an A team and then B team (or if three teams then two B teams that are split talent wise like previous years). Since 3rd grade for my 6th graders (this 6th grade team, I have a B team that has two A players that did not make the cut) there has been a huge difference from the best players to the least skilled players. It makes it hard to effectively develop everyone when their needs are very different.

Our first practice this year with the B team one of the first drills we did was a weave. It was ugly. I mean, just absolutely horrible. I had to stop and then do a drill that I haven't done since 4th grade that is a very basic passing drill. It was hilariously useless for my two A level players but I had to get the rest of the players up to be able to level that would be operational as a team. One thing that I have done through the year is being flexible in my practice plans. If I have one of the least skilled players out for a practice then I will step up the teaching and drills to be at a higher level and vice versa where if my better players are out then I will bring it down to focus on more basic fundamental building. So, more than a couple of practices, whatever I planned has been thrown out and I rebuild it as I go based on who is there and who is not there.

One thing I would suggest... I start focusing on the basics of offense- give and go, pick and roll, screens, spacing, off ball movement, etc right away from 3rd grade. Very similar to my commitment to M2M on defense- it can be ugly at first but with a long view both for the season and for their long term basketball career development- it is best. For my 3rd graderes this year... my assistant coach was not fully on board with M2M and after our first couple of games was pushing for us to abandon it because it was honestly ugly and a big reason why we lost games early on. I told him, not exactly in these words but in general, "I don't care if we lose games- it is their best interest for the long term for us to stick with it". I teach all of this in concepts and not really in an offense as they have no offensive plays or even an inbound play set up and you can really see then 'get it' over the course of the season. They have executed some beautiful give and go's in games and fairly good pick and rolls in games and they have really come a long way on defense to be the best defense I have seen from the teams we have played while we started off maybe the worse. All that to say.... teach it. Even the new kids will be able to pick it up as the season goes.
been coaching 30 years and still haven't used this drill. Absolutely hate it. It's not basketball movement. We do 3-man and 4 -man wide straights instead
Thanks for the update.
Sorry to interupt the blog
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
Congrats to the team and you coach on the championship!

It is a challenge when you are coaching a team with a wide range of athletic ability and basketball skillsets. The way that our school teams are set up- they start in 3rd grade and from 3rd to 5th, the teams are split up (most grades two teams but sometimes three) "evenly" by talent level with no cuts or tryouts (the school's AD/PE teacher makes the determination on his own). From 6th to 8th it is a tryout with no cuts into an A team and then B team (or if three teams then two B teams that are split talent wise like previous years). Since 3rd grade for my 6th graders (this 6th grade team, I have a B team that has two A players that did not make the cut) there has been a huge difference from the best players to the least skilled players. It makes it hard to effectively develop everyone when their needs are very different.

Our first practice this year with the B team one of the first drills we did was a weave. It was ugly. I mean, just absolutely horrible. I had to stop and then do a drill that I haven't done since 4th grade that is a very basic passing drill. It was hilariously useless for my two A level players but I had to get the rest of the players up to be able to level that would be operational as a team. One thing that I have done through the year is being flexible in my practice plans. If I have one of the least skilled players out for a practice then I will step up the teaching and drills to be at a higher level and vice versa where if my better players are out then I will bring it down to focus on more basic fundamental building. So, more than a couple of practices, whatever I planned has been thrown out and I rebuild it as I go based on who is there and who is not there.

One thing I would suggest... I start focusing on the basics of offense- give and go, pick and roll, screens, spacing, off ball movement, etc right away from 3rd grade. Very similar to my commitment to M2M on defense- it can be ugly at first but with a long view both for the season and for their long term basketball career development- it is best. For my 3rd graderes this year... my assistant coach was not fully on board with M2M and after our first couple of games was pushing for us to abandon it because it was honestly ugly and a big reason why we lost games early on. I told him, not exactly in these words but in general, "I don't care if we lose games- it is their best interest for the long term for us to stick with it". I teach all of this in concepts and not really in an offense as they have no offensive plays or even an inbound play set up and you can really see then 'get it' over the course of the season. They have executed some beautiful give and go's in games and fairly good pick and rolls in games and they have really come a long way on defense to be the best defense I have seen from the teams we have played while we started off maybe the worse. All that to say.... teach it. Even the new kids will be able to pick it up as the season goes.
been coaching 30 years and still haven't used this drill. Absolutely hate it. It's not basketball movement. We do 3-man and 4 -man wide straights instead
Thanks for the update.
Sorry to interupt the blog
By all means, continue to only make replies to be negative on something in a post of mine usually in a condescending way. It makes for great conversation.
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
Congrats to the team and you coach on the championship!

It is a challenge when you are coaching a team with a wide range of athletic ability and basketball skillsets. The way that our school teams are set up- they start in 3rd grade and from 3rd to 5th, the teams are split up (most grades two teams but sometimes three) "evenly" by talent level with no cuts or tryouts (the school's AD/PE teacher makes the determination on his own). From 6th to 8th it is a tryout with no cuts into an A team and then B team (or if three teams then two B teams that are split talent wise like previous years). Since 3rd grade for my 6th graders (this 6th grade team, I have a B team that has two A players that did not make the cut) there has been a huge difference from the best players to the least skilled players. It makes it hard to effectively develop everyone when their needs are very different.

Our first practice this year with the B team one of the first drills we did was a weave. It was ugly. I mean, just absolutely horrible. I had to stop and then do a drill that I haven't done since 4th grade that is a very basic passing drill. It was hilariously useless for my two A level players but I had to get the rest of the players up to be able to level that would be operational as a team. One thing that I have done through the year is being flexible in my practice plans. If I have one of the least skilled players out for a practice then I will step up the teaching and drills to be at a higher level and vice versa where if my better players are out then I will bring it down to focus on more basic fundamental building. So, more than a couple of practices, whatever I planned has been thrown out and I rebuild it as I go based on who is there and who is not there.

One thing I would suggest... I start focusing on the basics of offense- give and go, pick and roll, screens, spacing, off ball movement, etc right away from 3rd grade. Very similar to my commitment to M2M on defense- it can be ugly at first but with a long view both for the season and for their long term basketball career development- it is best. For my 3rd graderes this year... my assistant coach was not fully on board with M2M and after our first couple of games was pushing for us to abandon it because it was honestly ugly and a big reason why we lost games early on. I told him, not exactly in these words but in general, "I don't care if we lose games- it is their best interest for the long term for us to stick with it". I teach all of this in concepts and not really in an offense as they have no offensive plays or even an inbound play set up and you can really see then 'get it' over the course of the season. They have executed some beautiful give and go's in games and fairly good pick and rolls in games and they have really come a long way on defense to be the best defense I have seen from the teams we have played while we started off maybe the worse. All that to say.... teach it. Even the new kids will be able to pick it up as the season goes.
been coaching 30 years and still haven't used this drill. Absolutely hate it. It's not basketball movement. We do 3-man and 4 -man wide straights instead
Thanks for the update.
Sorry to interupt the blog
By all means, continue to only make replies to be negative on something in a post of mine usually in a condescending way. It makes for great conversation.
I thought this was to learn about what works and doesn't in addition to some reasoning as to why some people like some things and others don't. I don't think this was anything personal and was just a comment of why he didn't like a certain drill.

Then it devolved into something else.
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
Congrats to the team and you coach on the championship!

It is a challenge when you are coaching a team with a wide range of athletic ability and basketball skillsets. The way that our school teams are set up- they start in 3rd grade and from 3rd to 5th, the teams are split up (most grades two teams but sometimes three) "evenly" by talent level with no cuts or tryouts (the school's AD/PE teacher makes the determination on his own). From 6th to 8th it is a tryout with no cuts into an A team and then B team (or if three teams then two B teams that are split talent wise like previous years). Since 3rd grade for my 6th graders (this 6th grade team, I have a B team that has two A players that did not make the cut) there has been a huge difference from the best players to the least skilled players. It makes it hard to effectively develop everyone when their needs are very different.

Our first practice this year with the B team one of the first drills we did was a weave. It was ugly. I mean, just absolutely horrible. I had to stop and then do a drill that I haven't done since 4th grade that is a very basic passing drill. It was hilariously useless for my two A level players but I had to get the rest of the players up to be able to level that would be operational as a team. One thing that I have done through the year is being flexible in my practice plans. If I have one of the least skilled players out for a practice then I will step up the teaching and drills to be at a higher level and vice versa where if my better players are out then I will bring it down to focus on more basic fundamental building. So, more than a couple of practices, whatever I planned has been thrown out and I rebuild it as I go based on who is there and who is not there.

One thing I would suggest... I start focusing on the basics of offense- give and go, pick and roll, screens, spacing, off ball movement, etc right away from 3rd grade. Very similar to my commitment to M2M on defense- it can be ugly at first but with a long view both for the season and for their long term basketball career development- it is best. For my 3rd graderes this year... my assistant coach was not fully on board with M2M and after our first couple of games was pushing for us to abandon it because it was honestly ugly and a big reason why we lost games early on. I told him, not exactly in these words but in general, "I don't care if we lose games- it is their best interest for the long term for us to stick with it". I teach all of this in concepts and not really in an offense as they have no offensive plays or even an inbound play set up and you can really see then 'get it' over the course of the season. They have executed some beautiful give and go's in games and fairly good pick and rolls in games and they have really come a long way on defense to be the best defense I have seen from the teams we have played while we started off maybe the worse. All that to say.... teach it. Even the new kids will be able to pick it up as the season goes.
been coaching 30 years and still haven't used this drill. Absolutely hate it. It's not basketball movement. We do 3-man and 4 -man wide straights instead
Thanks for the update.
Sorry to interupt the blog
By all means, continue to only make replies to be negative on something in a post of mine usually in a condescending way. It makes for great conversation.
Has nothing to do with you, just making an observation that others might get something out of. If you are going to take everything as personal criticism, you are going to have a hard time growing as a coach.
 
10U recreation championship game was last night and it was a barn burner. Both being good defensive teams led to a lot of not great shots. Our team started out down 4 but rallied to be up by 2 at halftime. *** for tat the entirety of the 2nd half. One of our bigs made a great post move, got fouled and made both free throws to put us up with 30 seconds to go. Same big, my son, blocked the other team's shot with 4 seconds left, grabbed the rebound and dribbled out the clock. Honestly, that's the most consistent intensity I've seen from him all year. Maybe something has clicked!
This has been a serious learning season for me as a coach. I've only coached younger teams in the league (6U and 8U) so it took me a while to figure out the capacity of the 10U crowd to learn more of the subtleties of ball. It's such a balance of coaching to the skilled players vs teaching fundamentals to the newer players. I've found that I can probably start teaching more complex defenses and rudimentary offensive concepts from the get-go. If I coach again in the summer league, I'm planning to throw a simple pick and roll concept into the mix as a starter offense.
Congrats to the team and you coach on the championship!

It is a challenge when you are coaching a team with a wide range of athletic ability and basketball skillsets. The way that our school teams are set up- they start in 3rd grade and from 3rd to 5th, the teams are split up (most grades two teams but sometimes three) "evenly" by talent level with no cuts or tryouts (the school's AD/PE teacher makes the determination on his own). From 6th to 8th it is a tryout with no cuts into an A team and then B team (or if three teams then two B teams that are split talent wise like previous years). Since 3rd grade for my 6th graders (this 6th grade team, I have a B team that has two A players that did not make the cut) there has been a huge difference from the best players to the least skilled players. It makes it hard to effectively develop everyone when their needs are very different.

Our first practice this year with the B team one of the first drills we did was a weave. It was ugly. I mean, just absolutely horrible. I had to stop and then do a drill that I haven't done since 4th grade that is a very basic passing drill. It was hilariously useless for my two A level players but I had to get the rest of the players up to be able to level that would be operational as a team. One thing that I have done through the year is being flexible in my practice plans. If I have one of the least skilled players out for a practice then I will step up the teaching and drills to be at a higher level and vice versa where if my better players are out then I will bring it down to focus on more basic fundamental building. So, more than a couple of practices, whatever I planned has been thrown out and I rebuild it as I go based on who is there and who is not there.

One thing I would suggest... I start focusing on the basics of offense- give and go, pick and roll, screens, spacing, off ball movement, etc right away from 3rd grade. Very similar to my commitment to M2M on defense- it can be ugly at first but with a long view both for the season and for their long term basketball career development- it is best. For my 3rd graderes this year... my assistant coach was not fully on board with M2M and after our first couple of games was pushing for us to abandon it because it was honestly ugly and a big reason why we lost games early on. I told him, not exactly in these words but in general, "I don't care if we lose games- it is their best interest for the long term for us to stick with it". I teach all of this in concepts and not really in an offense as they have no offensive plays or even an inbound play set up and you can really see then 'get it' over the course of the season. They have executed some beautiful give and go's in games and fairly good pick and rolls in games and they have really come a long way on defense to be the best defense I have seen from the teams we have played while we started off maybe the worse. All that to say.... teach it. Even the new kids will be able to pick it up as the season goes.
been coaching 30 years and still haven't used this drill. Absolutely hate it. It's not basketball movement. We do 3-man and 4 -man wide straights instead
Thanks for the update.
Sorry to interupt the blog
By all means, continue to only make replies to be negative on something in a post of mine usually in a condescending way. It makes for great conversation.
I thought this was to learn about what works and doesn't in addition to some reasoning as to why some people like some things and others don't. I don't think this was anything personal and was just a comment of why he didn't like a certain drill.

Then it devolved into something else.
You are right. It has devolved into something else. We have already established that several in here think I am a horrible coach that is ruining these kids lives that I am coaching. Navin included. Pretty much without exception the only time he responds to a post of mine is to say how he disagrees with something which gets old but the condescending tone of "I have been coaching 30 years" just was too much for me. A comment here or there of "I don't use that drill as I feel it does not have much value. The reason why is that I don't think there is any basketball movement in it. Instead, I do the following." is one thing. This post was another. And it isn't a one off.

It very well could be a coincidence that all the posts he has in reply to me are negative. It could be that his writing style comes off condescending. I am very well aware that more than a couple in this thread do not have a high regard for me personally or as a coach based off of what they think of me from my posts. Perhaps I have the same wrong impression. Perhaps.
 
We have already established that several in here think I am a horrible coach that is ruining these kids lives that I am coaching.
I don't think anybody thinks this. Speaking from my perspective as someone that reads a lot of your posts you can be overwhelming with information and sometimes come across as a bit overbearing but I have never thought you are a bad coach or ruining kids lives. It is obvious you put in a ton of time with these kids which is the biggest compliment you can get. Time is the most important thing and you give a ton of it. It is also obvious you care about the kids tremendously. Nobody can fault you for that at all.

I know I have disagreed with your approach and we have discussed the why's and sometimes it's an agree to disagree type thing. That is fine and not personal at all. I am always trying to improve and sometimes seeing different approaches helps with that. I assume you feel the same.

It very well could be a coincidence that all the posts he has in reply to me are negative. It could be that his writing style comes off condescending.

I know I run into this with my writing sometimes. It is much easier to chime in when you see something you disagree with because you have opinions and reasons why you think "blah blah" is wrong or you have a better way to do something. When that is what all the responses are it is easy to take it personal and think it as condescending even what that isn't the intent.

(that paragraph is a generic "you" and not anybody in particular).

I think there are great basketball & coaching minds here and everyone is passionate about it. Passion sometimes leads to things being personal. Speaking from my perspective when I chime in here it is not personal and comes from a place of trying to give some knowledge that I have obtained and get more knowledge so I can improve for the future. There is no absolute right way to do something. We can only learn and move forward.
 
27-3
37-8

First round of the playoffs for the other league. It went the way you would expect for a 1st seed against a 16 seed. We were up 10-0 in the first couple of minutes and them still not having reached the three point line. The two noteworthy things were after sitting my two best players for about half of the first half, as I rotated them back in I told them to protect themselves- don't drive hard to the basket, slow things down, etc. My son goes in and not long after that gets a steal and goes to the basket and the opponent, a big guy (both height and size) kind of entangled with him and brought him down pretty hard and he ended up rolling his ankle. I sat him for the rest of the game. The other was the assistant coach of the other team turning right around right as I shook the HC hand and exchanged niceties.

Next game is Thursday against the 8 seed that beat our other school's B team who was the 9 seed.
 
28-3
45-28

This team was the first team to really give us a hard time and we trailed at half the first time we played them. They have one player that is a very good athlete who is tall, speedy and strong though obviously basketball is not his top sport, can ball handle pretty well, rebound and deadly if anywhere down low. They actually use him at point a lot more by default I think as they really do not have anyone else to effectively run point. They have another player, a bigger guy who was pretty good as well- I know he was not at our second meeting with this team and can not recall if he was there the first time. My plan was to have my son on him and then periodically double him. My son was obviously bothered by his ankle from the day before and was not as effective on defense as usual. On offense, they finally did what I have been waiting for a team to do all season long and that was place a defender on my other A players left and force him right. It frustrated him a bit and we had more mis-fires than we normally do and the first half was very competitive though we had the edge. I got my third best player back as he has been on vacation for a while and that was needed for this game. Late in the first half we started to pull away but then my son and their star player were fighting for a rebound and got knocked up against each other and went down..... and my son rolled reaggravated his ankle so he goes to the bench. That stalled us for a bit. Then second half my boys got it together like they have been and was pulled away to take it.

We now play in the final on Saturday for this league. I am not sure who we play yet, it will be either 2 or 3 seed. The 3 seed is the team we beat for season finale in back to back in both leagues. The 2 seed is the only team we have not played yet as there was some issue with the scheduling of the game so it never got set.
 
Hope your son recovers well, Chad.
Thank you.

He didn't have any noticeable inflammation and has good strength in his ankle when I tested it just sore. I had him ice and put Voltaran (one of the mother's on the team is a Physical Therapist and recommended that over other stuff) on. He seemed to not be favoring it at home.

After Saturday, I told him to ice it and he refused saying it didn't help etc. My wife got him to put a compression ankle on it but that obviously did not help Sunday.

We have a practice Wed before the Thursday game and I am going to hold him out of it then he will wear a brace for Thursday game. I am a little nervous over it and will play him only as much as I really need to as the team we are playing was the most physical team with several bigger kids on it. Those refs let it get rough though more than usual so hopefully whoever refs this game calls it less loose so it doesn't get as physical this time.
 

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