Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Audible draft recaps of the league by divisions
1. AFC WEST - Broncos, KC, Raiders, Chargers
Posted 03 May 2011 - 04:41 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol56a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - TE Julius Thomas has high upside but the Broncos offense could limit his production, did San Diego make a mistake in drafting RB Jordan Todman, the Chiefs will start Jonathan Baldwin opposite Dwayne Bowe, Oakland has a great sleeper WR in Denarius Moore, plus more!
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2. NFC NORTH - Vikings, Packers, Lions, Bears
Posted 03 May 2011 - 05:11 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol59a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - the Packers crush the draft, the Lions adding quality and potential superstars, did the Bears do enough to help them keep up with Green Bay, what to make of the Vikings draft, plus more!
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3. AFC North - Bengals, Browns, Steelers, Ravens
Posted 03 May 2011 - 05:10 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol58a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - why Greg Little could star from day one for the Browns, the new look Bengals with WR A.J. Green and QB Andy Dalton, Baltimore adds youth and speed to the WR corps with Torrey Smith, the Steelers add the son of Ironhead, plus more!
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4. AFC EAST - Bills, Pats, Jets, Phins
Posted 04 May 2011 - 06:56 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol60a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - why Johnny White could be a great pick for the Bills, the Dolphins new lead back Daniel Thomas, Bilal Powell as the replacement to LaDainian Tomlinson, Ryan Mallett boom or bust, plus more!
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5. NFC EAST - Boys, Skins, Eagles, Giants
Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:01 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol61a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - the Redskins poor draft, Jerry Jones being smart with his picks, why Dion Lewis is a great fit, DaRel Scott as a great dynasty sleeper with the Giants, plus more!
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6. AFC SOUTH - Colts, Texans, Jags, Titans
Posted Yesterday, 03:50 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol62a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - the Texans have a solid draft, Delone Carter as the lead back for the Colts, did the Titans do the right thing when picking Locker, Gabbert as the Jaguars QB of the future, plus more!
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7. NFC SOUTH - Falcons, Bucs, Saints, Panthers
Posted Yesterday, 03:52 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol63a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - did the Falcons give up too much for WR Julio Jones, why Mark Ingram is a great pick for the Saints, Cam Newton could be a Ben Roethlisberger type of QB, the Bucs have a great draft, plus more!
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My draft grades of each team to compare/contrast against Sig and Cecil
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=591165
1. CAROLINA PANTHERS B-
2. DENVER BRONCOS A
3. BUFFALO BILLS A
4. CINCINNATI BENGALS A+
5. ARIZONA CARDINALS A+
6. ATLANTA FALCONS B
7. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS A
8. TENNESSEE TITANS B+
9. DALLAS COWBOYS B-
10. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS B-
11. HOUSTON TEXANS B+
12. MINNESOTA VIKINGS B-
13. DETROIT LIONS A
14. ST. LOUIS RAMS B+
15. MIAMI DOLPHINS C+
16. WASHINGTON REDSKINS A+
17. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS D+
18. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS B-
19. NEW YORK GIANTS A
20. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS A+
21. CLEVELAND BROWNS B
22. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS B
23. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES C+
24. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS B
25. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS C+
26. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS B-
27. BALTIMORE RAVENS A-
28. CHICAGO BEARS B
29. NEW YORK JETS B-
30. PITTSBURGH STEELERS B-
31. GREEN BAY PACKERS B
32. OAKLAND RAIDERS B-
The ones that we disagree on the most is Washington and New England.
I went into detail I my thread on my reasoning for giving the Pats such a low grade so go to the link if you're interested in that dialogue but per the Skins this is how I see this draft.
First they probably had their eye on a particular QB, possibly Locker but he went early. Gabbert fell to them but they didn’t like him and got an opportunity to trade down. Its possible that they were thinking that they could pick up Ponder at the 16 spot but he went early however I believe they reaped a windfall because I’m sky-high on Ryan Kerrigan.
The boys didn’t rip into Kerrigan but they said he wasn’t athletic and I strongly disagree on that remark. His combine numbers are off the charts. His production in college is at the top of all pass rushers. He can come off the edge and in addition to getting pressure he causes turnovers with many forced fumbles. The vision of him coming off the weak side with Orakpo coming off the strong-side sets the table for him to clean up.
Also I like Hankerson and the boys don’t like him. My reasoning is very simple, he’s big with HUGE HANDS. Largest from this draft class. He can catch and he has the body to block out the defender. The boys make some good points on the specifics of his game. They do hours and hours of film study and talk to people and get to meet the prospects.
I just follow the game and really am into the draft and the long-term stats of players who do and don’t make it. Statistically if you take a long-term view of the draft you will find that very few make a big splash after the top third of the second round, the talent falls off a cliff at that point.
If you look at my thread the very first criteria I use to make my grades is TALENT because that is the point of the draft, to acquire more and better talent than your competition. I gave out higher grades based on potential talent and concentrated on the top-two rounds based on long-term draft analysis.
I don’t do hours and hours of film study, I don’t have contacts, I don’t meet prospects or attend all-star games or pro day workouts or go to the combine and I don’t get too wrapped up in later round prospects do to the long term draft analysis shows a small percentage of later round prospects make a big splash.
Many have stated that drafts can’t be analyzed for at least three years so I’ll take a look at the draft from three years ago, the 2009 draft and we can look at who did or didn’t make it. I think that will provide some context and with the lockout at this time of the year when it typically enters the slow season it will give fodder to keep people’s interest up and it will be eye opening for many who don’t go back to look at past drafts.
1. AFC WEST - Broncos, KC, Raiders, Chargers
Posted 03 May 2011 - 04:41 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol56a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - TE Julius Thomas has high upside but the Broncos offense could limit his production, did San Diego make a mistake in drafting RB Jordan Todman, the Chiefs will start Jonathan Baldwin opposite Dwayne Bowe, Oakland has a great sleeper WR in Denarius Moore, plus more!
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2. NFC NORTH - Vikings, Packers, Lions, Bears
Posted 03 May 2011 - 05:11 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol59a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - the Packers crush the draft, the Lions adding quality and potential superstars, did the Bears do enough to help them keep up with Green Bay, what to make of the Vikings draft, plus more!
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3. AFC North - Bengals, Browns, Steelers, Ravens
Posted 03 May 2011 - 05:10 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol58a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - why Greg Little could star from day one for the Browns, the new look Bengals with WR A.J. Green and QB Andy Dalton, Baltimore adds youth and speed to the WR corps with Torrey Smith, the Steelers add the son of Ironhead, plus more!
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4. AFC EAST - Bills, Pats, Jets, Phins
Posted 04 May 2011 - 06:56 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol60a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - why Johnny White could be a great pick for the Bills, the Dolphins new lead back Daniel Thomas, Bilal Powell as the replacement to LaDainian Tomlinson, Ryan Mallett boom or bust, plus more!
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5. NFC EAST - Boys, Skins, Eagles, Giants
Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:01 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol61a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - the Redskins poor draft, Jerry Jones being smart with his picks, why Dion Lewis is a great fit, DaRel Scott as a great dynasty sleeper with the Giants, plus more!
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6. AFC SOUTH - Colts, Texans, Jags, Titans
Posted Yesterday, 03:50 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol62a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - the Texans have a solid draft, Delone Carter as the lead back for the Colts, did the Titans do the right thing when picking Locker, Gabbert as the Jaguars QB of the future, plus more!
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7. NFC SOUTH - Falcons, Bucs, Saints, Panthers
Posted Yesterday, 03:52 PM
http://podcast.footb...2011-Vol63a.mp3
In This Episode: Cecil Lammey and Sigmund Bloom recap the 2011 NFL Draft. Topics Include - did the Falcons give up too much for WR Julio Jones, why Mark Ingram is a great pick for the Saints, Cam Newton could be a Ben Roethlisberger type of QB, the Bucs have a great draft, plus more!
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My draft grades of each team to compare/contrast against Sig and Cecil
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=591165
1. CAROLINA PANTHERS B-
2. DENVER BRONCOS A
3. BUFFALO BILLS A
4. CINCINNATI BENGALS A+
5. ARIZONA CARDINALS A+
6. ATLANTA FALCONS B
7. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS A
8. TENNESSEE TITANS B+
9. DALLAS COWBOYS B-
10. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS B-
11. HOUSTON TEXANS B+
12. MINNESOTA VIKINGS B-
13. DETROIT LIONS A
14. ST. LOUIS RAMS B+
15. MIAMI DOLPHINS C+
16. WASHINGTON REDSKINS A+
17. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS D+
18. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS B-
19. NEW YORK GIANTS A
20. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS A+
21. CLEVELAND BROWNS B
22. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS B
23. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES C+
24. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS B
25. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS C+
26. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS B-
27. BALTIMORE RAVENS A-
28. CHICAGO BEARS B
29. NEW YORK JETS B-
30. PITTSBURGH STEELERS B-
31. GREEN BAY PACKERS B
32. OAKLAND RAIDERS B-
The ones that we disagree on the most is Washington and New England.
I went into detail I my thread on my reasoning for giving the Pats such a low grade so go to the link if you're interested in that dialogue but per the Skins this is how I see this draft.
First they probably had their eye on a particular QB, possibly Locker but he went early. Gabbert fell to them but they didn’t like him and got an opportunity to trade down. Its possible that they were thinking that they could pick up Ponder at the 16 spot but he went early however I believe they reaped a windfall because I’m sky-high on Ryan Kerrigan.
The boys didn’t rip into Kerrigan but they said he wasn’t athletic and I strongly disagree on that remark. His combine numbers are off the charts. His production in college is at the top of all pass rushers. He can come off the edge and in addition to getting pressure he causes turnovers with many forced fumbles. The vision of him coming off the weak side with Orakpo coming off the strong-side sets the table for him to clean up.
Also I like Hankerson and the boys don’t like him. My reasoning is very simple, he’s big with HUGE HANDS. Largest from this draft class. He can catch and he has the body to block out the defender. The boys make some good points on the specifics of his game. They do hours and hours of film study and talk to people and get to meet the prospects.
I just follow the game and really am into the draft and the long-term stats of players who do and don’t make it. Statistically if you take a long-term view of the draft you will find that very few make a big splash after the top third of the second round, the talent falls off a cliff at that point.
If you look at my thread the very first criteria I use to make my grades is TALENT because that is the point of the draft, to acquire more and better talent than your competition. I gave out higher grades based on potential talent and concentrated on the top-two rounds based on long-term draft analysis.
I don’t do hours and hours of film study, I don’t have contacts, I don’t meet prospects or attend all-star games or pro day workouts or go to the combine and I don’t get too wrapped up in later round prospects do to the long term draft analysis shows a small percentage of later round prospects make a big splash.
Many have stated that drafts can’t be analyzed for at least three years so I’ll take a look at the draft from three years ago, the 2009 draft and we can look at who did or didn’t make it. I think that will provide some context and with the lockout at this time of the year when it typically enters the slow season it will give fodder to keep people’s interest up and it will be eye opening for many who don’t go back to look at past drafts.
