Collective Shark Pool Power rankings (1 Viewer)

[Zow]

Figured this would be a good idea for two reasons: entertainment and gambling. I'm making my rankings assuming a neutral field and with the idea that I believe the higher ranked team would beat the one below it head to head. Every Tuesday after the week's games I will update our collective rankings - so please post yours. Each week I will use my own consensus as well as input from others. Prior rank in caps.

1. Dallas Cowboys - playing too well at every position. Best offense in the league hands down and a very athletic defense. Still take em against anyone.

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2. NY Giants - defending Super Bowl champs still undefeated and playing very very well. Nasty lines on both sides.

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3. San Diego - easily could be 4-0. Injuries are biting them some, but still too talented to be held down. Look for some good lines with them the next few weeks.

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4. Tennessee - A team that'll go 13-3 and nobody will know how as they'll have like one pro bowler. Very sneaky.

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5. Philadelphia - Two solid wins and a close loss to Dallas and Chicago. The defense is fast as hell and McNabb is money. Assuming a healthy Westbrook, they're top 5 in terms of betting. Without him they drop a few notches.

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6.. Jacksonville - I consider the first two games anomalies. Running game and D is too good. They'll be there again.

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7. Indianapolis - Not as good as they were the last few years. But still good with Manning and beat a tough MN team.

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8. Washington - Incredible all four NFC east teams are deservedly in the top 10. Only losses are within the division. People didn't like me having them ranked 10th last week, but at 3-1 I don't see how they don't deserve to be here.

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9. Green Bay - Didn't look good this past weekend.

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10. Denver - High powered offense and very weak defense. Loss to KC shows criticism of my 4 ranking was warranted.

11. Buffalo - 4-0 and solid all around. Just can't pick them above the teams I have higher ranked.

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12. Pittsburgh - Team most may have had ranked higher. Good team, but Parker injury hurts and the o-line looks bad.

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13. New England - Hurting badly without Brady.

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14. Baltimore - 2-1 and playing well. A great defense means they have to be favored over half the teams.

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15. Tampa Bay - A Gruden coached team is always solid. Tough predicting their games every week.

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16. New Orleans - Injuries and a poor secondary kill them.

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17. Minnesota - 1-3 but really in every game. I know I am a homer here, but if they just got a passing game...

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18. Chicago - Surprisingly playing well. Probably have them too low with their good defense.

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19. Carolina - Steve Smith helps a ton as a playmaker and the D is quite good. They play well at home.

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20. Arizona - Looked exposed last week. O-line was a little beat up. Nonetheless Anquan is a warrior. I'd take em again against the Jets.

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21. NY Jets - Not as high on them as some others. Hard to ignore Favre. I just don't trust this team.

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22. Cleveland - Beat Cinci, although not convincingly. Still say they are legit though. Quinn soon?

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23. Houston - Thought they'd be better, but have some talent.

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24. Miami - Can'y knocked a team that demolished the Pats, although I still think they are in the bottom 1/3.

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25. San Fran - meh. I like Gore.

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26. Seattle - No WRs after having very nice ones a couple years ago.

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27. Cincinnati - Can't figure this team out. Definitely won't be touching them with bets.

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28. Atlanta - a winning record, but that won't last long.

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29. Kansas City - LJ for almost 200 and a win over Denver? Holy ####.

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30. Oakland - Could easily be 3-1. Great running game. But then again it's Oakland - Davis is an embarassment.

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31. Detroit - Kitna looks horrid. And offense is all they really got.

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32. St. Louis - switch to Green makes them even worse.

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3. Kansas City - Simply terrible coaching. Awful QBs. Which is a shame because LJ, Gonzo, and Bowe can play.

 

[Zow]

any critiques of my rankings?

 

[the rover]

St. Louis should be ranked lower.

 

[NumNums]

I'd drop NE under Arizona...

 

[bb7278]

You can't have the Bills ranked lower than Jacksonville when they are undefeated AND beat them.

How Washington and Minnesota are better in you mind than the Bills I have no Idea either.

The lowest the Bills are ranked on CBS/ESPN is #6.

 

[renesauz]

Buffalo way too low after their hot start, although I suspect they will end the year near where you have them now.

A strong argument could be made that Philly is too low. Their only loss came to Dallas, on the road, in a game they almost won. Still, at 2 -1, the ranking is not unfair per se......

BUT THEN>>>>You have a 1 - 2 team top five (San Diego) who lost to your #19 team at home, when #19 was without their best weapon. This pick looks made based more on expectation then reality as their defense may continue to struggle and LT is not yet healthy.

Indy and Minn are two more teams getting credit for expectations that have not yet lived up to the rankings offered (esp. Minn).

How is Jacksonville #8 without an O-line?

Arizona is a team too low based on prior years.

Atlanta is not getting enough credit for their turn-around. While they are hardly top 10 (or even 15), that team is playing better then several you have ranked higher. #28 is a travesty.

 

[Bri]

6. Tennessee - A team that'll go 13-3 and nobody will know how as they'll have like one pro bowler. Very sneaky.

One pro bowler?After 3 games, Chris Johnson, Albert Haynesworth, Cortland Finnegan, and Kyle Vandenbosch look like locks.Either Offensive Tackle could make it, if they start getting credit. Some especially great linemen have retired in the AFC the last couple years, at least one has a chance to step into their annual pro bowl spot, at least once.Cortland Finnegan is somehow not a household name yet. It's coming. Best CB- 3 games in- without question. He's shut down each WR he's faced(Andre, Ocho), has 4 INTs in 3 games, and a TD.I would argue they are the best D in football right now. 2 dominant games, then Slaton somehow had a good first half against them. It was like Slaton's good play angerred them and incited a phenomenal 2nd half performance. He had something like 9 carries for 10 yards in the 2nd half, Schaub was less than 50% passing with 2 INTs in the half. Also in the 2nd half, they sacked Schaub twice, forced a fumble, and scored a TD.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Denver's the most overrated team in the NFL right now. Lots of power rankings putting them in the top five. They're the one team I'd look to fade.

 

[fourd]

St. Louis should be ranked lower.

So should Kansas City.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

You basically have most of the really good defensive teams ranked too low (Tenn, Buff, Balt, Philly, Jax)...list later.

 

[Zow]

Buffalo way too low after their hot start, although I suspect they will end the year near where you have them now.

So basically you're saying my ranking is accurate. again, my point here is really for rankings in terms of betting. Would you really take Buffalo even money on a neutral field against the teams I have ranked ahead of them? I just can't do it - but if you guys thinks so great and so why as that's the point of the thread.

 

[T Bell]

Washington's too high, and I'm a homer. They should be around 13-15 range.

 

[Zow]

Denver's the most overrated team in the NFL right now. Lots of power rankings putting them in the top five. They're the one team I'd look to fade.

I agree Chase, but the thing is they really haven't even established a running game. they're also playing too well right now to pick against them when they play most teams. they've made bettors big winners so far with their lines.

 

[Zow]

Washington's too high, and I'm a homer. They should be around 13-15 range.

I really like Washington. they are well coached, can bang the ball, and santana Moss is playing much better. they made the playoffs last year and have beaten two quality teams so far.

 

[simey]

19. Carolina - Steve Smith helps a ton as a playmaker and the D is quite good. They play well at home.

Carolina usually plays better on the road.

 

[T Bell]

Washington's too high, and I'm a homer. They should be around 13-15 range.

I really like Washington. they are well coached, can bang the ball, and santana Moss is playing much better. they made the playoffs last year and have beaten two quality teams so far.

Understood, and I really like what's going on there too, but they need to show more. I feel pretty good about them moving up long term, but I'm just saying that they've got more to prove now. Their next two games BTW are road games @ Dallas and @ Philly, so I think that's going to temper some enthusiasm for them unless they steal one of those games.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Denver's the most overrated team in the NFL right now. Lots of power rankings putting them in the top five. They're the one team I'd look to fade.

examine their scheduleI doubt they are worse than 12-4

 

[Liquid Tension]

any critiques of my rankings?

I don't have time right now, but I think Carolina should be much higher (5-10 spots)

 

[thatguy]

Denver's the most overrated team in the NFL right now. Lots of power rankings putting them in the top five. They're the one team I'd look to fade.

Have you watched their offense? It's easily top 3 in the league - possibly #1. Sure, their defense sucks, but their offense is really, really good. They may not be worthy of a top 5 ranking, but they're not really overrated either.

 

[Zow]

Washington's too high, and I'm a homer. They should be around 13-15 range.

I really like Washington. they are well coached, can bang the ball, and santana Moss is playing much better. they made the playoffs last year and have beaten two quality teams so far.

Understood, and I really like what's going on there too, but they need to show more. I feel pretty good about them moving up long term, but I'm just saying that they've got more to prove now. Their next two games BTW are road games @ Dallas and @ Philly, so I think that's going to temper some enthusiasm for them unless they steal one of those games.

Of course. And I'm picking them to lose those two games. But that's not really the point of power rankings IMO - a team shouldn't drop if they lose to a higher ranked team by a reasonably proportionate amount. The goal here is to adequately rank those teams that are much much better than their record would show. I think at 2-3 Washington is one of those teams.

 

[Zow]

6. Tennessee - A team that'll go 13-3 and nobody will know how as they'll have like one pro bowler. Very sneaky.

One pro bowler?

Sorry, that was more hyperbole than anything. TEN is just one of those teams you don't think of when stars are mentioned and that people would tend to underrate (think MN Twins of the NFL).

 

[Zow]

bump - was hoping these rankings would be "collective"

 

[T Bell]

6. Tennessee - A team that'll go 13-3 and nobody will know how as they'll have like one pro bowler. Very sneaky.

One pro bowler?After 3 games, Chris Johnson, Albert Haynesworth, Cortland Finnegan, and Kyle Vandenbosch look like locks.Either Offensive Tackle could make it, if they start getting credit. Some especially great linemen have retired in the AFC the last couple years, at least one has a chance to step into their annual pro bowl spot, at least once.Cortland Finnegan is somehow not a household name yet. It's coming. Best CB- 3 games in- without question. He's shut down each WR he's faced(Andre, Ocho), has 4 INTs in 3 games, and a TD.I would argue they are the best D in football right now. 2 dominant games, then Slaton somehow had a good first half against them. It was like Slaton's good play angerred them and incited a phenomenal 2nd half performance. He had something like 9 carries for 10 yards in the 2nd half, Schaub was less than 50% passing with 2 INTs in the half. Also in the 2nd half, they sacked Schaub twice, forced a fumble, and scored a TD.

Yeah, and with that massive Nashville fan base voting for them, they'll probably get twice that many players into the Pro Bowl.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Buffalo way too low after their hot start, although I suspect they will end the year near where you have them now.

So basically you're saying my ranking is accurate. again, my point here is really for rankings in terms of betting. Would you really take Buffalo even money on a neutral field against the teams I have ranked ahead of them? I just can't do it - but if you guys thinks so great and so why as that's the point of the thread.

Didn't they already beat one of the teams you have ranked ahead of them? So yeah, I would.

 

[SuperJohn96]

bump - was hoping these rankings would be "collective"

Just update your original post with comments in the thread.

 

[Moe Green]

Denver's the most overrated team in the NFL right now. Lots of power rankings putting them in the top five. They're the one team I'd look to fade.

Not as long as that offense is firing on all cylinders.

 

[gigantor]

bears could very easily be 3-0 against 3 good teams. I'd put them 5 spots higher or so

Indy drop, Minn drop, Jax drop, NE drop, Zona drop

Bears up, TB up, Carolina up

 

[NoCheese]

San Diego's a nice team, but #3? A bit high. Sure you can say their 2 losses were close and they got jobbed, but they lost both and their defense is sieve-like

 

[Zow]

bump - was hoping these rankings would be "collective"

Just update your original post with comments in the thread.

good call - will do later when i get a chance

 

[Zow]

Updated after week four. Please feel free to jump in with any criticisms/comments/alternate rankings.

Again, point here is to ask yourself if you had a straight bet would you take team X over all the teams you have listed below.

 

[kinglochness]

I think it's pure lunacy that you have the Cowboys ranked so low. Especially after handling their business so well against Washington. Should be at least 5-10 slots higher.

 

[brednbuddah]

Denver's the most overrated team in the NFL right now. Lots of power rankings putting them in the top five. They're the one team I'd look to fade.

got a favorable call against San Diego, a Gramatica missed FG against New Orleans and they just lost to KC!?! could very easily be 1-3.

 

[Zow]

I think it's pure lunacy that you have the Cowboys ranked so low. Especially after handling their business so well against Washington. Should be at least 5-10 slots higher.

nice. you'll fit in well at our draft :e:lsewhere

 

[the rover]

Told you the Rams were too high.

 

[SuperJohn96]

1. You say previous ranking in caps, but it should say parenthesis.

2. You moved KC up to 29, but you need to edit this old line that is under #32 STL: "3. Kansas City - Simply terrible coaching. Awful QBs. Which is a shame because LJ, Gonzo, and Bowe can play."

As for the rankings, Giants should be above the Cowboys since Dallas' defense was exposed by the Skins.

The next few weeks will tell, but I think Colts look to be in for a rough season and are ranked too high. I'd bump Washington and Buffalo to 8/9 and drop Indy down into the teens.

Carolina really needs to be in the early teens, not 19.

 

[T Bell]

Washington's too high, and I'm a homer. They should be around 13-15 range.

I really like Washington. they are well coached, can bang the ball, and santana Moss is playing much better. they made the playoffs last year and have beaten two quality teams so far.

Understood, and I really like what's going on there too, but they need to show more. I feel pretty good about them moving up long term, but I'm just saying that they've got more to prove now. Their next two games BTW are road games @ Dallas and @ Philly, so I think that's going to temper some enthusiasm for them unless they steal one of those games.

Ok, now I'm a believer. Two weeks in a row, at home, against teams that are pretty good but not considered dominant is nice, but could be considered an aberration and not really true tests, even though their defense was impressive and they came back both times in the 4th quarter to win before being able to kneel down to kill the clock at the end.

But three weeks in a row, capped off by a division road win against the Cowboys is another matter, and it shows me that this is legitimately a good team and not some sort of an illusion. That was a strong win with excellent and even dominant play in all phases of the game. Nothing's decided in that division yet of course, but I now know that the only thing that will keep the Redskins from being very much in the playoff mix at least until the last week or two of the regular season is injuries.

 

[Everclear333]

Seattle should climb the rankings this week.

They get Engram and Branch back after the bye week. It wil be a completely different team.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

The fact that you have the undefeated Bills #11 shows that you have no idea what you are talking about and the rest of your list means nothing.

 

[Assani Fisher]

The fact that you have the undefeated Bills #11 shows that you have no idea what you are talking about and the rest of your list means nothing.

Vegas sportsbooks also think Buffalo is playing around the 11th best ball in the league right now as evidenced by their future lines and this week's Buffalo line. Do you think they have no clue what they are talking about also?

 

[bollocks28]

The fact that you have the undefeated Bills #11 shows that you have no idea what you are talking about and the rest of your list means nothing.

Vegas sportsbooks also think Buffalo is playing around the 11th best ball in the league right now as evidenced by their future lines and this week's Buffalo line. Do you think they have no clue what they are talking about also?

The only reason I would bump Buffalo up is by virtue of the fact that I think JAX is ranked too high... not a believer with what's happened to their Oline. As you allude to in your own ranking I would like to see Chicago ranked quite a bit higher. Indy is also looking very vulnerable and could easily be bumped down further. Overall, nice effort.

 

[BoulderBob]

The Bears really should be 4-0, and they have beaten two solid playoff calibre teams(IND-PHI), and had 10+ point leads against two other playoff calibre squads late in the 4th quarter(CAR-TB). I think they should be around #6-10...if Tillman and Lloyd are both hurt for any length of time, bump the up a few spots.