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College Admissions Questions (2 Viewers)

It's a tough wait for my daughter.  She applied to 4 schools, has got acceptance from 3, but of course her dream/stretch school Cal Poly doesn't do decisions until April.  So we've visited one school, have another visit lined up to probably her 2nd choice Illinois State, but she's getting all this mail from the other schools she was accepted into about locking in, etc.  That's not a big deal in itself since they give until May, but can't really reach out to meet other Freshman, or start to potentially work on a roommate, all that stuff.  Everything is effectively on hold until she hears about Cal Poly.
One thing to stay on top of is deadlines for housing at her number two choice. If the housing submission is earlier than April, you may want to see if you can apply for housing even while she hasn’t formally accepted. 

edit:  Should have kept reading as I see this was already raised. 

 
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So it’s official- my son chose Univ. Central Florida. Had a few acceptances to choose from, but really likes the forensics/ bio-chemistry BS program at UCF (compared to other schools that offer a BA in forensics- criminology). 
Despite the fact that the campus is only a few miles down the road, he will be living on campus as a freshman, as we feel this is the best college experience for him. 
Deposits are in as of today. Go Knights!

Thank you for everyone’s help in this thread so far. (Even my wife is to the point where she goes “Did you read about that on your fantasy football message board too??!!”)

With that out of the way, my son is now concentrating on finishing his IB degree and his senior year of baseball, and hopefully some relaxation before August.


Congrats sml 

 
It's official Princess Foos got accepted to Cal Poly!  I'm super happy for her, even though the cost is going to be crazy and she'll be going to school about as far away from us as she possibly could and still be in the continental US.  It is the best place for her though and she's so excited.
That’s awesome, congrats to her!

 
Just a quick update here (that exactly no one is asking for - LOL). Little Sooth has been accepted to his top two D3 schools near us to go along with his GCU acceptance. The local schools are trying to get him to "commit" for baseball purposes but he continues to lean towards GCU. He's going to be going on a "Discover GCU" trip soon - they pay for his flight there so he can experience the campus by staying in a dorm, hanging out with students, meeting professors, etc. My strong guess is that the visit will seal the deal for GCU. If something goes wonky though, and he ends up going to one of the local area schools to play ball, I feel comfortable that they are both good schools. And while I'd love to be able to go watch him play ball on a regular basis for the next four years, I think he'll be best served by going away to GCU. We'll see!
I realized today that I never closed the loop on this. Little Sooth is going to GCU in the fall. He deposited shortly after his "Discover GCU" trip, has secured housing (and knows who his roommates will be) and has determined his major. In early May he'll select his move-in date/time and off to Phoenix he'll go in late August.

He does plan to play Club Baseball as he says he isn't ready to hang up the spikes just yet. Will be interesting to see if that desire remains or if college life will steer him away from it. I'm just happy that he has found a place that he is excited about and I can't wait to see what the fall brings.

Fun to see updates and questions from others here. Best of luck to those still in the search journey.

 
Final SAT for belljrjr tomorrow.   She did well the first time that we debated even taking it again.  She is just hoping to improve. Most schools are still test optional but it can't hurt.

Will feel good to take with no stress and be done

 
Wow, that's amazing. 

I went to Tech for grad school and had a great time.  That said, i think Purdue would be better for an undergrad.  Unless he gets a full ride...
Hi Z, So we did not get the scholarship to GTech, so Purdue is still in the mix.  We are going to visit tomorrow and get a feel for the campus.  He is going to tour GTech on Monday.

Why do you say Purdue would be better for an undergrad?

 
Little belljr took the SAT for a second time - we debated even doing it

She dropped from 1360 to 1290 -  Im not overly concerned but I feel bad for her.  She was 4 questions off in both sections.

I know they take the best scores but I thought shed improve in math - oh well - I dont think it will matter in the long run

 
Little belljr took the SAT for a second time - we debated even doing it

She dropped from 1360 to 1290 -  Im not overly concerned but I feel bad for her.  She was 4 questions off in both sections.

I know they take the best scores but I thought shed improve in math - oh well - I dont think it will matter in the long run
I feel bad for these kids today - in my old days in the 80s and anything close to 1290 is rock star stats - now most schools are looking at 1200 plus.  Still think those are great scores tho - good luck!  

 
I feel bad for these kids today - in my old days in the 80s and anything close to 1290 is rock star stats - now most schools are looking at 1200 plus.  Still think those are great scores tho - good luck!  
It’s not comparable anymore. My oldest did better than I did but his score was below average when you look at Ivy leagues. My SAT score was higher than the average at any school including Stanford, Ivies and MIT. I don’t think the SAT is easier but the prep you can do now has made scores much higher. Probably also better classes all around, more private schools, way better technology, etc., but the tests and how to prepare has been dissected and taught in ways never imaginable back when we were in high school.

 
stbugs said:
It’s not comparable anymore. My oldest did better than I did but his score was below average when you look at Ivy leagues. My SAT score was higher than the average at any school including Stanford, Ivies and MIT. I don’t think the SAT is easier but the prep you can do now has made scores much higher. Probably also better classes all around, more private schools, way better technology, etc., but the tests and how to prepare has been dissected and taught in ways never imaginable back when we were in high school.
This is one more reason that socioeconomic status is a huge driver for college acceptance.  Those SAT prep classes likely add 100-200 points to a score.  I'm sure they were around 30 years ago, but I surely didn't know about them.

 
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I feel bad for these kids today - in my old days in the 80s and anything close to 1290 is rock star stats - now most schools are looking at 1200 plus.  Still think those are great scores tho - good luck!  
Yep. The pressure can be intense. My junior takes the ACT again on Tuesday, he’s been studying and practicing a LOT more than I ever did. He’s been getting in the 30-33 range and isn’t satisfied. 1300 on the SAT earlier is good. 
He’ll get into his college of choice (4.0 unweighted, 4.5 weighted GPA) but wants an almost full ride to Auburn.  

 
Ah, 'tis the season... My daughter is applying to 7 schools, although, I don't think the applications are quite finalized for three of them at this point.  2 acceptances so far.  Below is the order of what I think is her current preference ranking is.  We have not physically visited Northwestern or Rose-Hulman yet.  

Case Western Reserve ✔️

The Ohio State ✔️

Lehigh✔️

Purdue✔️

Northwestern- never applied 

Rose-Hulman  ✔️

Carnegie Melon - waitlisted

She is looking for electrical engineering.  Dad's choice (with pocketbook in mind) is Ohio State, or Purdue where brother is.  These private schools are great places, but even with expected scholarships, the price tags are tough to swallow. 
And the winner is…The Ohio State University!  Lehigh was really at the top of my daughter’s list, but at $30k per year less (after financial awards are factored in), OSU makes more sense.  Will now have a Boilermaker and a Buckeye!

 
And the winner is…The Ohio State University!  Lehigh was really at the top of my daughter’s list, but at $30k per year less (after financial awards are factored in), OSU makes more sense.  Will now have a Boilermaker and a Buckeye!
That’s awesome news!!! Congrats!

 
1st Twin got a scholarship offer to play baseball in Kansas.   

2nd Twin got a scholarship to University of Oklahoma.  

Wife and I are still going through empty nest syndrome.    The cost to go to school even with scholarships, and what nots is still going to be cost prohibitive for many families.  

Both kids did ok taking the ACT low 30's but both schools are not even requiring them at this time due to Covid.  

Anywho, anyone know where I can sell a kidney or semen to help pay for this college stuff? 

 
1st Twin got a scholarship offer to play baseball in Kansas.   

2nd Twin got a scholarship to University of Oklahoma.  

Wife and I are still going through empty nest syndrome.    The cost to go to school even with scholarships, and what nots is still going to be cost prohibitive for many families.  

Both kids did ok taking the ACT low 30's but both schools are not even requiring them at this time due to Covid.  

Anywho, anyone know where I can sell a kidney or semen to help pay for this college stuff? 
Rock Chalk!  🎉 congrats

 
More and more schools are doing away with SAT/ACT thankfully
It looks like auburn and Alabama still use them for scholarships. With a 4.0 unweighted and 30, son #2 will be getting tuition covered. Now he gets to apply for other scholarships and grants, and he better finish out the school year strong. I’m looking forward to him deciding his school next year (current junior)

 
It looks like auburn and Alabama still use them for scholarships. With a 4.0 unweighted and 30, son #2 will be getting tuition covered. Now he gets to apply for other scholarships and grants, and he better finish out the school year strong. I’m looking forward to him deciding his school next year (current junior)
Sweet deal.  Congratulations.  My kid has a 4.0 and a 35 and gets only $3k from Ohio State.  

 
And the winner is…The Ohio State University!  Lehigh was really at the top of my daughter’s list, but at $30k per year less (after financial awards are factored in), OSU makes more sense.  Will now have a Boilermaker and a Buckeye!
I'm sure she'll love OSU once she gets there.  Ironically, the only reason I could afford Lehigh back in the day was because we didn't have any money.

 
I'm sure she'll love OSU once she gets there.  Ironically, the only reason I could afford Lehigh back in the day was because we didn't have any money.
She was accepted to Lehigh.  They gave us $20k because of a "sibling also in college", but even with that money it was still $30k more per year than OSU...

 
We're getting literally nothing from Cal Poly.  It's rough.  Even the loan opportunities are all Parent Plus so no relief from the crazy costs at all.
You're not in state, I take it. 

The California state university systems have gotten less and less funding from the state for many decades. They recoup some of that by charging high out of state fees to those that they think can afford it. They trade on their reputations to do so.

 
You're not in state, I take it. 

The California state university systems have gotten less and less funding from the state for many decades. They recoup some of that by charging high out of state fees to those that they think can afford it. They trade on their reputations to do so.
Yeah, east coast so we're feeling the full brunt of it.  The "opportunity fee" is just a twist of the knife.

 
zoobird said:
I was walking in Central Park a few days ago and saw a kid with a Dalton shirt on.  I had an almost irresistable urge to go up to him and ask "do you know El Floppo's kid?"
lol... I'd almost guess that they might have.

I forget- are you in the area, or just visiting?

I was at the school Friday evening for a HS "coffee house"- open mic for kids to perform, mostly music but one stand-up act too. I only have my own public HS experiences from the 80s in NCal to compare to, but I was dumbfounded (shared by the handful of other parents there) at these kids... on a variety of levels. 

my HS- a couple of kids who had some genuine talent at any one thing or another. here- every kid that got up was insanely talented (including a sophomore who already has a record deal). but there were kids who were also new to their instrument or performing, or not as good. my HS- kids were ruthless and would've booed and heckled. here- there was sooooo much love and support from the overflow crowd... for every kid that got up there, and even more for performances that soared, or those that just seemed to need the support (new kids or good kids struggling forgetting lyrics, feedback, whatever). it was astonishing to me, tbh. I can't even count or explain how many instances of the kids just being aware of and considerate/caring about each other and those around them... including us geezers in the back. my HS- complete obliviousness-  usually not with ill-intent, but more than not with it.

all of this made me feel so good about floppinho being there (and he got a lot of cheers and yelling of his name during his songs). and while watching a cool-looking older boy sprawled on the ground get jumped on and hugged by his little sister when she got there with her dad... and not act embarrassed in front of his friends, but genuinely happy to see her and responsive to her... I realized what an amazing place this is going to be for Floppinha for 6th grade too.

 
Our 17-year-old daughter is going locally to UCCS in Colorado Springs. It is really the best of both worlds. She has had some challenges these last couple of years with her mental health, but she is doing amazing now. The fact she is going to graduate with straight "A's" is a testament to her resilience. She doesn't drive (by her choice) so she is going to stay on campus. Kind of a tough pill to swallow financially in that what we are paying for her dorm, would buy a pretty nice car for her. However, it is the right call as she can get the college "experience" and we are only 15 minutes away. 

It is really an amazing campus, and she lucked out to get one of the best dorms. UCCS is basically a satellite of CU Boulder, so should she decide after 1-2 years, she wants to transfer, it will be no biggie to make that happen. 

She was accepted by a bunch of different schools, but we are all on the same page that this was the right decision for her. 

 
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Not a question about college admissions but with a lot of us that have posted here over the past few years having kids currently in school, figured this would be a good place to post.  This post in the mortgage thread got me thinking about the best way to get my sophomore in college started on building her credit.  That post is on how to do it as quickly as possible for someone looking to buy a home, my kid is not in that boat it's just a matter of getting started on that journey.  What have y'all done?  My daughter doesn't really have a work history or verifiable income, it's been working for her mom, tutoring/coaching here and there, that kind of thing.  So thinking she may have to start with a secured card, but I've never had or explored one of those.  Thoughts?

 
Not a question about college admissions but with a lot of us that have posted here over the past few years having kids currently in school, figured this would be a good place to post.  This post in the mortgage thread got me thinking about the best way to get my sophomore in college started on building her credit.  That post is on how to do it as quickly as possible for someone looking to buy a home, my kid is not in that boat it's just a matter of getting started on that journey.  What have y'all done?  My daughter doesn't really have a work history or verifiable income, it's been working for her mom, tutoring/coaching here and there, that kind of thing.  So thinking she may have to start with a secured card, but I've never had or explored one of those.  Thoughts?
My daughter worked summer jobs through high school and had a checking account with a debit card fairly early. We tried for a Capital One credit card with a low $300 limit. I thought it was going to be a slam dunk but they rejected her application. Turned right around and applied to Discover, who accepted her with a $1,000 limit. Discover seems more amenable to college students IMO. She made all her payments on time. In addition, when we rented an apartment for her in her junior year in college, we made sure that we put some items in her name (cable bill, etc.).

 
Didn't see if it was discussed but has anyone here considered taking a job at a school for the free / reduced tuition?  I've got friends that got free rides at Lehigh and Perdue because their parents were working there.  Not sure how feasible it is and to what level of employee they extend the benefit but as I'm looking at prices, seems like it could be an interesting career detour for a while.   :grad:

 
Didn't see if it was discussed but has anyone here considered taking a job at a school for the free / reduced tuition?  I've got friends that got free rides at Lehigh and Perdue because their parents were working there.  Not sure how feasible it is and to what level of employee they extend the benefit but as I'm looking at prices, seems like it could be an interesting career detour for a while.   :grad:
in 2023 my SIL will graduate her 4th kid from the top-tier Boston area school she's worked at for 30 years, all on the house. Close to a million dollar perk. I think you vest into 100% coverage, maybe 20% off/year until you've been there 5 and your kids go free.

 
Lehigh98 said:
Didn't see if it was discussed but has anyone here considered taking a job at a school for the free / reduced tuition?  I've got friends that got free rides at Lehigh and Perdue because their parents were working there.  Not sure how feasible it is and to what level of employee they extend the benefit but as I'm looking at prices, seems like it could be an interesting career detour for a while.   :grad:
This is one of the reasons I got into higher ed. I am shopping local private high schools as our kids near that age, but if nothing comes to fruition I'll pivot to the larger state schools nearby. 

 
My wife works for Hopkins and they (currently) will cover tuition for the equivalent cost of a Hopkins tuition at almost any other university. Her boss put 3 kids through undergrad this way.  Likely saved $500k.

 
My wife works for Hopkins and they (currently) will cover tuition for the equivalent cost of a Hopkins tuition at almost any other university. Her boss put 3 kids through undergrad this way.  Likely saved $500k.
My wife and I both work there - the perk is 50% of the Hopkins tuition to take anywhere your kid goes. Since we both work there, we get 50% + 50% of the tuition, which is one of the highest in the country. Room and board isn't covered but it's still an amazing benefit. My wife has been there forever and can't wait to leave and I'm like, "come on, just a couple more years now."

Also, need blind schools won't let you "stack" the Financial Aid award they give you on top of the Hopkins benefit. Since I didn't work there when our older kid was in college, we didn't really see that much benefit from it 

 
Nigel said:
in 2023 my SIL will graduate her 4th kid from the top-tier Boston area school she's worked at for 30 years, all on the house. Close to a million dollar perk. I think you vest into 100% coverage, maybe 20% off/year until you've been there 5 and your kids go free.
My brother works at a Top 20 university and all four of his kids got free tuition all four years (three have graduated and the youngest is a sophomore).

 
Just jumping in as Child #2 is a rising senior and we are about to go through the process for the second time.  My daughter graduated HS in 2020, took a gap year and enrolled at American University last year.  She loves it which is great.

My son (#2), has better grades and ACT scores than his sister, but he was a freshman when COVID hit, and I am wondering how much accommodations for the masses during this time will hurt him (overall grade inflation, ACTs optional at so may schools, etc).  I have a feeling if he had the grades and scores in 2020, it would have gone a longer way than it will for him in 2023.

 
My wife works for Hopkins and they (currently) will cover tuition for the equivalent cost of a Hopkins tuition at almost any other university. Her boss put 3 kids through undergrad this way.  Likely saved $500k.
Nice perk, but kids also need to go through the admissions process. Less than 10% of applicants are admitted.

 
Nice perk, but kids also need to go through the admissions process. Less than 10% of applicants are admitted.
Yes, but the Hopkins bux are transferable.  Meaning, the kid doesn't need to get into Hopkins, just another school that qualifies on their list, which is almost all universities.

Not sure if it covers trade school or universities outside the US.

 
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Yes, but the Hopkins bux are transferable.  Meaning, the kid doesn't need to get into Hopkins, just another school that qualifies on their list, which is almost all universities.

Not sure if it covers trade school or universities outside the US.
That's a great perk at Hopkins, cause it's not easy to get accepted. I know some parents at the University of Miami, where the acceptance rate is around 30%, whose kids didn't get admitted and were left with no such benefit, not 50%, nothing. I doubt if most schools have a transferable benefit.  

 
Any advice on good engineering schools that offer merit aid?

Here is my list so far:
Top tier
Cornell (no aid)
Cal Tech (no aid)
Cal Berkeley (no aid)
Duke (likely no aid)

Second tier
U Michigan (no aid)
U Illinois (possible small amount)
U Texas (possible small amount)
Purdue (likely small amount)

Safety schools
Alabama, OU, Arizona, Texas A&M, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Miss State and a few other similar schools (significant aid)

Now I know he won’t get into all (any) of the top tier schools, but Michigan level and below he has a good chance.

Trying to balance cost/value of program. I’ve heard engineering school matters more where you go than other majors (my daughter is premed and goes to OU for free since that degree won’t matter). Other schools to look at?

No chance of need based aid.
 
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Any advice on good engineering schools that offer merit aid?

Here is my list so far:
Top tier
Cornell (no aid)
Cal Tech (no aid)
Cal Berkeley (no aid)
Duke (likely no aid)

Second tier
U Michigan (no aid)
U Illinois (possible small amount)
U Texas (possible small amount)
Purdue (likely small amount)

Safety schools
Alabama, OU, Arizona, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Miss State and a few other similar schools (significant aid)

Now I know he won’t get into all (any) of the top tier schools, but Michigan level and below he has a good chance.

Trying to balance cost/value of program. I’ve heard engineering school matters more where you go than other majors (my daughter is premed and goes to OU for free since that degree won’t matter). Other schools to look at?

No chance of need based aid.
My son got $10k per year from Purdue. I think it is their Presidential scholarship. I believe they have one level higher at $16k. Purdue is good value for an out of state school. We pay pretty much the same total there as we do for our daughter in state at Ohio State.
 
Any advice on good engineering schools that offer merit aid?

Here is my list so far:
Top tier
Cornell (no aid)
Cal Tech (no aid)
Cal Berkeley (no aid)
Duke (likely no aid)

Second tier
U Michigan (no aid)
U Illinois (possible small amount)
U Texas (possible small amount)
Purdue (likely small amount)

Safety schools
Alabama, OU, Arizona, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Miss State and a few other similar schools (significant aid)

Now I know he won’t get into all (any) of the top tier schools, but Michigan level and below he has a good chance.

Trying to balance cost/value of program. I’ve heard engineering school matters more where you go than other majors (my daughter is premed and goes to OU for free since that degree won’t matter). Other schools to look at?

No chance of need based aid.
My son got $10k per year from Purdue. I think it is their Presidential scholarship. I believe they have one level higher at $16k. Purdue is good value for an out of state school. We pay pretty much the same total there as we do for our daughter in state at Ohio State.
Ah, figured it out! We live in Oklahoma, so everything but OU would be out of state.
 

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