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So looking for advice....

If we do early decision but feel the tuition is too high we can decline? The way I read the school website was if we don't put the early decision deposit it's not binding

You may apply to other colleges; however, you can only apply to one school as an Early Decision candidate. If you are admitted to Stevens under one of our Early Decision plans and accept our offer of admission, then you must immediately withdraw all other applications to other colleges. You may not submit new applications to other colleges after you have made this commitment to Stevens.

After you review and accept your financial aid award, you must make a $500 non-refundable deposit by your tuition deposit deadline to confirm your enrollment at Stevens.


"However, the Early Decision Plan is binding, meaning if you submit a tuition deposit as an Early Decision candidate by the stated deadline, you agree to: "
Yes, you can decline an early decision admit, and cost is a valid reason to do it.

Is it safe to assume your child is thinking of applying Early Decision to Stevens Institute of Technology? My son applied there ED, was accepted, and currently attends. As you know Stevens is very expensive, and while my son received sizeable merit scholarships as part of the offer, it remains expensive. I would expect most Early Decision acceptances include a scholarship to try and seal the deal. I'm happy to share additional details if you are interested.
Please do I did the online calculator and her 3.98 and 1380 was still projecting to make it like only 12k in scholarship. We don't meet the need based criteria
Edwin A. Stevens Scholarship $22,000 /year
Presidential Scholarship $3,000 /year
Need based aid $0, lol

These are good for 4 years as long as he maintains his grades, which thankfully has not been a problem.
My son’s grades/scores were pretty much in line with your daughter’s. As Stevens is a tech school, male applicants outnumber female which should help your daughter and may improve the offer.

I recall seeing identical numbers for the scholarships on online forums that year. Hopefully year to year they are tweaked higher with inflation - but after you get them they won’t be.

The college is still crazy expensive, but I was pleasantly surprised when the offer came though.

Also she is an athlete which will boost the merit aid she gets. Like a lot of D3 schools that can't directly offer athletic scholarships they find other ways to get money to athletes they want. When I was there, a soccer player lived across the hall from me freshman year. We had very similar stats, scores, etc but he had double the merit aid I have. I know there are always other factors but don't be surprised if you get more aid than you think you will there. I had a great time there and it set me up well for my career.
 
The poor kid has a mechanical engineer for a dad and a chemical engineer for a mom so he never had a chance. :blush: Both our boys are leaning to math and science, not from pushing them but they are probably just gleaning it from mom and dad's jobs and interests. We've even tried to get them to look into other options business / medical / etc but math / science seems to be their comfort zone and they're sticking with it for now.
Not so much specific advice for your kids, but a general idea for any kids who are math-y but might want to combine it with business...I'm a bit biased on this, but data analysis is a great career that can lead in a wide variety of directions. An added advantage is that most of the majors (engineering, math, computer science, economics, data science) that prep kids for good entry level analysis jobs can lead in plenty of other directions too if kids find that their interests lie elsewhere.
 
Good luck to those trying to finish up applications for the Nov 1st Early Action schools! Three applications left to submit by that date (1 honors program and 2 schools).

Thanks for providing a place to stress, vent, and discuss the process!
 
Thankfully my son’s college counselor (and the school in general) stress October 15th dates for all of the schools that require applications by November 1st. It reduces the level of stress for all involved knowing that there is some buffer built in to make modifications, have counselors (and parents) review and make any adjustments necessary for the deadline.

My son has already received acceptance letters from 4 schools (with associated merit awards) and only has one supplementary essay to finish for Indiana University today. After that, it’s just a waiting game. Some of the schools he applied to has rolling admissions while others have commitment dates from mid-December through the beginning of February.

Having a few acceptance letters under his belt reduces the stress during the waiting period a little bit however his #1 choice, FSU, doesn’t announce until 12/15.
 
Having a few acceptance letters under his belt reduces the stress during the waiting period a little bit however his #1 choice, FSU, doesn’t announce until 12/15.
For sure. My son got accepted to IU last week and Pitt a few weeks before that. Unfortunately, his likely top choice (UCLA) doesn't release decisions until mid-March. All but one of his other EAs are late January. Gonna be a looooong wait.
 
November deadline met for the first round of applications:
  1. Alabama - accepted to Engineering School
  2. Nebraska - accepted to CS
  3. Minnesota - accepted to Applied Math
  4. Princeton - Applied Math ED notified 12/15
  5. Michigan - Mech Engineering notified late Jan
  6. Illinois - Mech Engineering notified late Jan
  7. Purdue - Mech Engineering notified late Jan
  8. USC - CS notified late Jan

Will submit:
  1. OU by December for merit aid
  2. MIT for Regular Decision (he will submit here regardless of Princeton's decision)
  3. Cal Berkeley for Regular Decision (he will submit here regardless of Princeton's decision)

If he does not get into Princeton:
  1. Brown for applied math
  2. Wash U
  3. CMU - CS
I at least know he is going somewhere, and those places are giving generous merit aid; I highly suggest applying to Alabama and Nebraska if your kid has good test scores/GPA just to get an offer in the books to compare to the big-money schools!

Here is my venting on EA; it really does not help you at all to hear in Jan; all schools have a Regular Decision date early in the month, so you have to submit those before hearing from any EA schools!
 
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Here is my venting on EA; it really does not help you at all to hear in Jan; all schools have a Regular Decision date early in the month, so you have to submit those before hearing from any EA schools!

Can you please elaborate on this?
 
Here is my venting on EA; it really does not help you at all to hear in Jan; all schools have a Regular Decision date early in the month, so you have to submit those before hearing from any EA schools!

Can you please elaborate on this?
EA = early action, not ED which is Early Decision.

Ivies, Duke, etc do ED and let you know in general by December so you can fill out other applications by the January regular due date if you do not get in. As you know, you are only allowed to submit one of these since it is binding.

“Public Ivies” and other top schools (Michigan, Georgia Tech, etc), have EA. You still need to apply by 11/1, but they don’t let you know until mid-January! You can apply to as many of these as you want (along with the one ED from above) ,since they are non-binding. So, you still have to turn in any applications due Jan 1st In case you do not get in any of these.


Are you applying to any EA schools that let you know by December? I have not seen any.
 
Local university to the area

Eager to become part of the [redacted]? Apply by our November 1 Early Action deadline to experience the following benefits:

  • Receive an early admissions decision (by Thanksgiving!)
  • Early consideration for merit awards and other [redacted] institution-based scholarships
  • Priority release of financial aid offers, including need-based awards*
  • Priority enrollment for summer registration, where you can sign up for classes, meet future classmates, and more
 
Here is my venting on EA; it really does not help you at all to hear in Jan; all schools have a Regular Decision date early in the month, so you have to submit those before hearing from any EA schools!

Can you please elaborate on this?
EA = early action, not ED which is Early Decision.

Ivies, Duke, etc do ED and let you know in general by December so you can fill out other applications by the January regular due date if you do not get in. As you know, you are only allowed to submit one of these since it is binding.

“Public Ivies” and other top schools (Michigan, Georgia Tech, etc), have EA. You still need to apply by 11/1, but they don’t let you know until mid-January! You can apply to as many of these as you want (along with the one ED from above) ,since they are non-binding. So, you still have to turn in any applications due Jan 1st In case you do not get in any of these.


Are you applying to any EA schools that let you know by December? I have not seen any.

Thanks. I know 3 or 4 of my son's options had EA deadlines. I was referring to your statement that "all schools have a regular decision date early in the month". What do you mean?
 
Here is my venting on EA; it really does not help you at all to hear in Jan; all schools have a Regular Decision date early in the month, so you have to submit those before hearing from any EA schools!

Can you please elaborate on this?
EA = early action, not ED which is Early Decision.

Ivies, Duke, etc do ED and let you know in general by December so you can fill out other applications by the January regular due date if you do not get in. As you know, you are only allowed to submit one of these since it is binding.

“Public Ivies” and other top schools (Michigan, Georgia Tech, etc), have EA. You still need to apply by 11/1, but they don’t let you know until mid-January! You can apply to as many of these as you want (along with the one ED from above) ,since they are non-binding. So, you still have to turn in any applications due Jan 1st In case you do not get in any of these.


Are you applying to any EA schools that let you know by December? I have not seen any.

Thanks. I know 3 or 4 of my son's options had EA deadlines. I was referring to your statement that "all schools have a regular decision date early in the month". What do you mean?
Regular decision deadline is early in January (generally by the 3rd); We will have to submit those applications before we hear from his EA schools (Michigan, Illinois, Purdue, GT).
 
My daughter has narrowed down the list to:

Maryland
Penn State
Wisconsin
Michigan
Arizona State (WTF?)
Towson
San Diego State

Dad wants Wisconsin or Penn State
Mom wants Maryland or Towson
Updated Moobin Spawn 1 Power Rankings

1Sam Diego State
2Penn State
3Towson

Backups:
Wisconsin
Michigan
Arizona State
U of Arizona (now the ASU choice makes sense as she didn’t fully understand the whole U of State, State U dynamic)

Dropped from contention but will still apply:
Michigan
Maryland

Recent interest: (She has no chance to get into these but I can’t tell her that):

Fordham
University of Penn


The Penn State visit was really nice. Beautiful time of year to visit.
 

Recent interest: (She has no chance to get into these but I can’t tell her that):

Fordham
Pretty sure Fordham is way easier than Michigan and also likely easier than Wisconsin unless you're in state there

I will say that it looks like Fordham's admission standards are much tougher than I thought though. My stepfather has worked there for years and always talks about how desperate the school is for students. The admissions data I'm seeing definitely don't reflect that at all.
 
Here is my venting on EA; it really does not help you at all to hear in Jan; all schools have a Regular Decision date early in the month, so you have to submit those before hearing from any EA schools!

Can you please elaborate on this?
Yeah I don't understand this, We did EA and should hear back before Thanksgiving
I’m missing something here. Our senior has been admitted to auburn, Alabama, Alabama-Huntsville, and Mississippi state (honors program pending for all). Those aren’t public ivies by any stretch but good enough and with in state tuition. The only thing he’s still working on are the non-automatic scholarships which will guide his decision.
 
Here is my venting on EA; it really does not help you at all to hear in Jan; all schools have a Regular Decision date early in the month, so you have to submit those before hearing from any EA schools!

Can you please elaborate on this?
Yeah I don't understand this, We did EA and should hear back before Thanksgiving
I’m missing something here. Our senior has been admitted to auburn, Alabama, Alabama-Huntsville, and Mississippi state (honors program pending for all). Those aren’t public ivies by any stretch but good enough and with in state tuition. The only thing he’s still working on are the non-automatic scholarships which will guide his decision.
I don't want to speak for pmedina, but in general, the state flagships (and some other big state schools) with lower acceptance rates don't generally release EA decisions until mid-to-late January. My son applied EA to MIchigan, Wisconsin, UNC, and UVA and none of them release decisions in time to effect your RD thought process.
 
Haha it seems like every kid is engineering or comp sci these days.

Where my finance or business majors at?

Oh that's right, the kids want to actually be able to get jobs out of school...

😛
I mean, if someone's able to hack it and have halfway decent grades at a solid accounting program, they'll have a job lined up by sophomore year, junior at worst. I've heard recently of accounting firms offering jobs at graduation (with paid internships along the way) to John Carroll brand new incoming freshmen within 2 weeks of starting college, provided they stay on a CPA-eligible accounting track and keep a certain minimum GPA. Accounting industry is hurting badly right now, we need all of the people we can get. Our firm is recruiting sophomores now, we've got people lined up for 2024-25 employment start dates now.
 
Haha it seems like every kid is engineering or comp sci these days.

Where my finance or business majors at?

Oh that's right, the kids want to actually be able to get jobs out of school...

😛
I mean, if someone's able to hack it and have halfway decent grades at a solid accounting program, they'll have a job lined up by sophomore year, junior at worst. I've heard recently of accounting firms offering jobs at graduation (with paid internships along the way) to John Carroll brand new incoming freshmen within 2 weeks of starting college, provided they stay on a CPA-eligible accounting track and keep a certain minimum GPA. Accounting industry is hurting badly right now, we need all of the people we can get. Our firm is recruiting sophomores now, we've got people lined up for 2024-25 employment start dates now.
This checks out. As an engineer, I shared the concern of the OP, especially now.

My daughter graduates with a bachelors in finance, May 2023 - she just accepted an offer where she worked this summer, a big financial service company in Boston. Her friends are all getting offers as well, the accounting majors were priority. The salaries are comparable to engineers.
 
Here is my venting on EA; it really does not help you at all to hear in Jan; all schools have a Regular Decision date early in the month, so you have to submit those before hearing from any EA schools!

Can you please elaborate on this?
Yeah I don't understand this, We did EA and should hear back before Thanksgiving
I’m missing something here. Our senior has been admitted to auburn, Alabama, Alabama-Huntsville, and Mississippi state (honors program pending for all). Those aren’t public ivies by any stretch but good enough and with in state tuition. The only thing he’s still working on are the non-automatic scholarships which will guide his decision.
I don't want to speak for pmedina, but in general, the state flagships (and some other big state schools) with lower acceptance rates don't generally release EA decisions until mid-to-late January. My son applied EA to MIchigan, Wisconsin, UNC, and UVA and none of them release decisions in time to effect your RD thought process.
This is our situation. We have heard from Nebraska, Minnesota, and Alabama (they are really rolling admissions), but Michigan, et al will be mid-January.

Good enough is all relative, and I certainly think it matters for certain majors more than others.

I’ve mentioned if he gets into the Raikes Honors program at Nebraska or Epic Scholars Engineering Program at Alabama we take a long, hard look!!
 
Haha it seems like every kid is engineering or comp sci these days.

Where my finance or business majors at?

Oh that's right, the kids want to actually be able to get jobs out of school...

😛
I mean, if someone's able to hack it and have halfway decent grades at a solid accounting program, they'll have a job lined up by sophomore year, junior at worst. I've heard recently of accounting firms offering jobs at graduation (with paid internships along the way) to John Carroll brand new incoming freshmen within 2 weeks of starting college, provided they stay on a CPA-eligible accounting track and keep a certain minimum GPA. Accounting industry is hurting badly right now, we need all of the people we can get. Our firm is recruiting sophomores now, we've got people lined up for 2024-25 employment start dates now.
This checks out. As an engineer, I shared the concern of the OP, especially now.

My daughter graduates with a bachelors in finance, May 2023 - she just accepted an offer where she worked this summer, a big financial service company in Boston. Her friends are all getting offers as well, the accounting majors were priority. The salaries are comparable to engineers.

My daughter is now a soph, and finally declared a major - anthropology. She's got a 3.6 after her freshman year and is totally self-motivated (waaaaay more than I ever was), is pretty strong in STEM classes but just doesn't love them, but she's taken a couple of anthro classes and really enjoyed them so she just submitted that as her major. She is planning on taking a bunch of econ classes so she can minor in that, she sees that as a sort of "practical insurance" (UC Davis doesn't have a biz school).

I keep telling her it doesn't matter that much what she majors in, she should just study what she finds interesting, especially if she still has no idea what she wants to do when she graduates. She'll have a degree from a UC school, and that'll open doors for her. But, not that I'd tell her at this point, I can't not be just a tad concerned about what she'll do with an anthro major. But as I've tried to do throughout the whole process, I'm here when she asks for advice but this is her path.

On a totally unrelated note, she grew up north of San Francisco in a pretty homogenous environment, pretty much all upper middle class and very white, and she's a blonde, blue-eyed Californian. But her little close friend group in school is an Indian girl who grew up in Hong Kong, a girl from a Pakistani immigrant family, a Korean girl from the Bay Area, and a Polish girl who went to high school in Seattle. I'm so happy she went to a bigger school with a mix of international kids and is meeting people from all different backgrounds. With all of the achievement and scholastic stuff that we focus on, it can be easy to forget some of the most important things kids can get out of going to college.
 
This checks out. As an engineer, I shared the concern of the OP, especially now.

My daughter graduates with a bachelors in finance, May 2023 - she just accepted an offer where she worked this summer, a big financial service company in Boston. Her friends are all getting offers as well, the accounting majors were priority. The salaries are comparable to engineers.
I mean I don't know how salaries compare to engineering, I'll take your word on that; I'm sure some more-sought-after engineering disciplines pay more, but still. The accounting industry is not in a good spot right now - it's an aging industry, and the 150 credit-hour requirement that most states impose to qualify for a CPA license is a huge deterrent to prospective students. Even the top accounting programs in the field are seeing 50% enrollment class sizes compared to 10, 15 years ago. There's a huge opportunity for motivated students, but like engineering it's not for everyone.

In all seriousness, if the student is at any sort of respectable accounting program (and I'm not talking just top 30, top 50 types), has reasonable grades (maybe 3.2+) and is able to put together a normal interview or two, they'll have a job at least a full year before graduation, and likely earlier than that.
 
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Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
 
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Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
If you're coming all that way and looking at Catholic schools, you might want to check out Dayton.
 
Haha it seems like every kid is engineering or comp sci these days.

Where my finance or business majors at?

Oh that's right, the kids want to actually be able to get jobs out of school...

😛
I mean, if someone's able to hack it and have halfway decent grades at a solid accounting program, they'll have a job lined up by sophomore year, junior at worst. I've heard recently of accounting firms offering jobs at graduation (with paid internships along the way) to John Carroll brand new incoming freshmen within 2 weeks of starting college, provided they stay on a CPA-eligible accounting track and keep a certain minimum GPA. Accounting industry is hurting badly right now, we need all of the people we can get. Our firm is recruiting sophomores now, we've got people lined up for 2024-25 employment start dates now.
This checks out. As an engineer, I shared the concern of the OP, especially now.

My daughter graduates with a bachelors in finance, May 2023 - she just accepted an offer where she worked this summer, a big financial service company in Boston. Her friends are all getting offers as well, the accounting majors were priority. The salaries are comparable to engineers.

My daughter is now a soph, and finally declared a major - anthropology. She's got a 3.6 after her freshman year and is totally self-motivated (waaaaay more than I ever was), is pretty strong in STEM classes but just doesn't love them, but she's taken a couple of anthro classes and really enjoyed them so she just submitted that as her major. She is planning on taking a bunch of econ classes so she can minor in that, she sees that as a sort of "practical insurance" (UC Davis doesn't have a biz school).

I keep telling her it doesn't matter that much what she majors in, she should just study what she finds interesting, especially if she still has no idea what she wants to do when she graduates. She'll have a degree from a UC school, and that'll open doors for her. But, not that I'd tell her at this point, I can't not be just a tad concerned about what she'll do with an anthro major. But as I've tried to do throughout the whole process, I'm here when she asks for advice but this is her path.

On a totally unrelated note, she grew up north of San Francisco in a pretty homogenous environment, pretty much all upper middle class and very white, and she's a blonde, blue-eyed Californian. But her little close friend group in school is an Indian girl who grew up in Hong Kong, a girl from a Pakistani immigrant family, a Korean girl from the Bay Area, and a Polish girl who went to high school in Seattle. I'm so happy she went to a bigger school with a mix of international kids and is meeting people from all different backgrounds. With all of the achievement and scholastic stuff that we focus on, it can be easy to forget some of the most important things kids can get out of going to college.

Maybe I'm jaded by working 20+ years in the hedge fund space with a frigging BA in History, but I think a sharp kid with analytical thinking skills and an ability to communicate well is going to be fine no matter the major. My son is majoring in Sociology with a minor in Econ and Spanish. 4.0 so far and I haven't lost a second of sleep worrying about what he'll do when he's finished with his undergrad. It's his life and I can't live it for him. But he's loving college, has an on-campus job he really enjoys and I think we'll be just fine in life once he enters 'the real world'.

Side note: You going to the game Sat?
 

I think a sharp kid with analytical thinking skills and an ability to communicate well is going to be fine no matter the major.
I wish more parents could subscribe to this. If your kid loves STEM - great. I know lots of kids that do. But I also hear too many parents that are pushing/forcing their kids into on the basis of employability. I haven't regretted my liberal arts major for a second.
 
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Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
If you're coming all that way and looking at Catholic schools, you might want to check out Dayton.
But….Dayton.
 
Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
If you're coming all that way and looking at Catholic schools, you might want to check out Dayton.
But….Dayton.
You dismiss Dayton, yet Bloomington and Evansville somehow meet your standards?
 
Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
If you're coming all that way and looking at Catholic schools, you might want to check out Dayton.
But….Dayton.

Fair point, but have you been to Evansville?
 
Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
If you're coming all that way and looking at Catholic schools, you might want to check out Dayton.
But….Dayton.

Fair point, but have you been to Evansville?
Yes, I went to school there. The devil you know....lol

I wouldn't suggest my son go to school in Evansville because I don't think it would be the right fit for him however I think it's important for him to see various-sized schools in different cities/settings for comparison purposes.
 
Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
If you're coming all that way and looking at Catholic schools, you might want to check out Dayton.
But….Dayton.
You dismiss Dayton, yet Bloomington and Evansville somehow meet your standards?
Yes. Yes they do. Don't judge.

:shrug:
 
Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
Added a campus tour of Ohio State now also.
 
Haha it seems like every kid is engineering or comp sci these days.

Where my finance or business majors at?

Oh that's right, the kids want to actually be able to get jobs out of school...

😛
I mean, if someone's able to hack it and have halfway decent grades at a solid accounting program, they'll have a job lined up by sophomore year, junior at worst. I've heard recently of accounting firms offering jobs at graduation (with paid internships along the way) to John Carroll brand new incoming freshmen within 2 weeks of starting college, provided they stay on a CPA-eligible accounting track and keep a certain minimum GPA. Accounting industry is hurting badly right now, we need all of the people we can get. Our firm is recruiting sophomores now, we've got people lined up for 2024-25 employment start dates now.
This checks out. As an engineer, I shared the concern of the OP, especially now.

My daughter graduates with a bachelors in finance, May 2023 - she just accepted an offer where she worked this summer, a big financial service company in Boston. Her friends are all getting offers as well, the accounting majors were priority. The salaries are comparable to engineers.

My daughter is now a soph, and finally declared a major - anthropology. She's got a 3.6 after her freshman year and is totally self-motivated (waaaaay more than I ever was), is pretty strong in STEM classes but just doesn't love them, but she's taken a couple of anthro classes and really enjoyed them so she just submitted that as her major. She is planning on taking a bunch of econ classes so she can minor in that, she sees that as a sort of "practical insurance" (UC Davis doesn't have a biz school).

I keep telling her it doesn't matter that much what she majors in, she should just study what she finds interesting, especially if she still has no idea what she wants to do when she graduates. She'll have a degree from a UC school, and that'll open doors for her. But, not that I'd tell her at this point, I can't not be just a tad concerned about what she'll do with an anthro major. But as I've tried to do throughout the whole process, I'm here when she asks for advice but this is her path.

On a totally unrelated note, she grew up north of San Francisco in a pretty homogenous environment, pretty much all upper middle class and very white, and she's a blonde, blue-eyed Californian. But her little close friend group in school is an Indian girl who grew up in Hong Kong, a girl from a Pakistani immigrant family, a Korean girl from the Bay Area, and a Polish girl who went to high school in Seattle. I'm so happy she went to a bigger school with a mix of international kids and is meeting people from all different backgrounds. With all of the achievement and scholastic stuff that we focus on, it can be easy to forget some of the most important things kids can get out of going to college.

Maybe I'm jaded by working 20+ years in the hedge fund space with a frigging BA in History, but I think a sharp kid with analytical thinking skills and an ability to communicate well is going to be fine no matter the major. My son is majoring in Sociology with a minor in Econ and Spanish. 4.0 so far and I haven't lost a second of sleep worrying about what he'll do when he's finished with his undergrad. It's his life and I can't live it for him. But he's loving college, has an on-campus job he really enjoys and I think we'll be just fine in life once he enters 'the real world'.

Side note: You going to the game Sat?

Yup, that's the attitude I'm trying to take. Learn how to think, do research, be analytical, and communicate. And meet lots of different people. No major has a monopoly on those things.

And yes, we'll be at the game and tailgating right across the footbridge in the science lot. Hit me up if you make it over there pre-game!
 
Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
Added a campus tour of Ohio State now also.

Its too bad you're a couple weeks past peak fall color season in the upper Midwest. I did U of Minnesota with my son last week and we also toured a couple smaller state schools in WI and the weather was kind of gray, rainy and blustery. It was disappointing to me because fall is usually my favorite time of year at these upper midwest college towns but we left it a couple weeks too late. We're doing DePaul and Loyola next week. He's hitting the midwest Jesuit circuit pretty hard because of his high school but I think he'll end up at a big state school - probably Wisconsin or Minnesota if he gets an offer.
 
Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
Added a campus tour of Ohio State now also.

Its too bad you're a couple weeks past peak fall color season in the upper Midwest. I did U of Minnesota with my son last week and we also toured a couple smaller state schools in WI and the weather was kind of gray, rainy and blustery. It was disappointing to me because fall is usually my favorite time of year at these upper midwest college towns but we left it a couple weeks too late. We're doing DePaul and Loyola next week. He's hitting the midwest Jesuit circuit pretty hard because of his high school but I think he'll end up at a big state school - probably Wisconsin or Minnesota if he gets an offer.
How is the Minnesota campus - do you feel like you’re on a college campus or in the city? We will visit after we’ve heard from everyone, but a college B10/SEC atmosphere appeals to him. That’s one of the schools we are in so far 🙌.
 
Any ED folks have an interview scheduled? We did not get one for Princeton yet, I read it does not matter as they do not interview everyone.

Being from Oklahoma I’d venture the alumni pool is not huge, but I’d still think it’s a positive sign to have one 😰.
 
Heading north next week for a college tour with our son. I'm looking forward to getting his reaction to the Midwest in the Fall to see if that's really where he wants to go to school. He has lived in Miami his whole life so it might be a rude awakening for him.

We are driving up to Cincinnati for Xavier, over to Indianapolis for Butler, Bloomington for IU and then Evansville IN. We have scheduled tours at XU, Butler and UE. IU will only be a self-guided tour as they didn't haven't any scheduled tours the week of Thanksgiving.

His #1 is Florida State but I'm not 100% confident he is going to make it in there. Last year their acceptance rate was ~35%. While he is a good student that went to a very competitive Jesuit HS, he's not a GREAT student. If you were to ask me today, I'm guessing that he will want to go to the CC in Tallahassee for the first semester or year and then gain entry into FSU after that.
Added a campus tour of Ohio State now also.

Its too bad you're a couple weeks past peak fall color season in the upper Midwest. I did U of Minnesota with my son last week and we also toured a couple smaller state schools in WI and the weather was kind of gray, rainy and blustery. It was disappointing to me because fall is usually my favorite time of year at these upper midwest college towns but we left it a couple weeks too late. We're doing DePaul and Loyola next week. He's hitting the midwest Jesuit circuit pretty hard because of his high school but I think he'll end up at a big state school - probably Wisconsin or Minnesota if he gets an offer.
How is the Minnesota campus - do you feel like you’re on a college campus or in the city? We will visit after we’ve heard from everyone, but a college B10/SEC atmosphere appeals to him. That’s one of the schools we are in so far 🙌.

The campus is beautiful and away from downtown - but there's never a doubt you are in a big city. I think its really up to where the kid sees himself and for us this was on one extreme end of the spectrum - huge campus/big city. The next day we toured a small state school (10k students) in a small town and it was really night/day difference. Other Big Ten schools are more of a situation where the campus dominates the City, but in MNLPS the school is just one small part of a huge metro area. Dorms were good, everything you'd expect at a great Big Ten school.
 
November deadline met for the first round of applications:
  1. Alabama - accepted to Engineering School
  2. Nebraska - accepted to CS
  3. Minnesota - accepted to Applied Math
  4. Princeton - Applied Math ED notified 12/15
  5. Michigan - Mech Engineering notified late Jan
  6. Illinois - Mech Engineering notified late Jan
  7. Purdue - Mech Engineering notified late Jan
  8. USC - CS notified late Jan

Will submit:
  1. OU by December for merit aid
  2. MIT for Regular Decision (he will submit here regardless of Princeton's decision)
  3. Cal Berkeley for Regular Decision (he will submit here regardless of Princeton's decision)

If he does not get into Princeton:
  1. Brown for applied math
  2. Wash U
  3. CMU - CS
I at least know he is going somewhere, and those places are giving generous merit aid; I highly suggest applying to Alabama and Nebraska if your kid has good test scores/GPA just to get an offer in the books to compare to the big-money schools!

Here is my venting on EA; it really does not help you at all to hear in Jan; all schools have a Regular Decision date early in the month, so you have to submit those before hearing from any EA schools!
I hate to reply to myself, but I can't emphasize enough applying to Alabama and Nebraska if you have a child with good metrics. Alabama came in as a full-ride, simply based on scores/GPA. We are now in the process of applying to the Blount Scholars and Randalls Research program. You have until 12/8 (I think) to apply to those. If he gets in, they will be a strong contender; if not, we move on.

So far, Minnesotta has been stingiest with merit aid of the three schools he is admitted too.
 
The UC application is hellish to fill out and due today; do not wait until the last minute as they have had crashes in past years that have caused issues submitting by the deadline.

What a racket-charge the consumer to do your work. Oh well, Cal & UCLA submitted.
 
The UC application is hellish to fill out and due today; do not wait until the last minute as they have had crashes in past years that have caused issues submitting by the deadline.

What a racket-charge the consumer to do your work. Oh well, Cal & UCLA submitted.
GLLLLLLLLL

I nearly wrecked my mom's car on the way to drop off my UC application in the mail at LAX on a Sunday (last day for postmarking). At that time (not sure about now), only LAX and SFO had post offices open on Sunday. Anyway, on the freeway, I was going too fast on the transition from the 2 to the 5, it had been raining, and I came around the turn and saw stopped traffic. I locked up the brakes on the Volvo 240, spun 270 degrees and went partially over the embankment off the shoulder. Had to back up, and turn away from oncoming traffic. I went off the next exit (Dodger Stadium) and the only damage to the car was that the front panel on the glove compartment broke it's clips and popped off. No flat tire, no scratches, nothing.

Dropped off the application, going much slower the rest of the way. Application was accepted and I got in to all 3 UCs that I applied to. I've never told my parents about the incident.
 

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