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Although draft capital certainly plays a role, I find it helpful to see discussion on the prospects no matter how close the grouping as everyone sees things a little bit differently.
In particular to guys outside the top tier, I look for guys who seem to play with a “football fire.” Pearsall stand out to me in that group. Back to Ladd…
Personally, I don't think Mitchell or McConkey belong in that tier, I think they are up there with Brian Thomas.
I totally agree there could be 20 WRs in this class, who are WR3s or better in the NFL.
Ladd's overrated imo. It's not that he can't be really good; it's that there's a list of guys I prefer more than you (more than most). He's sitting at wr12 in my rankings.
The negative character stuff with Burton seems to be real, but who knows. I'm listening to him interview right now. Seems fine. Wish we had better information about this stuff. I have him a bit higher than Ladd, fwiw. He's a stud. He was the best wr on the field when Bama played Texas. 2 Tds called back or he'd have had 3. If he falls over character concerns, he gonna be a steal.
I think 19-20 of these wrs can make a fantasy impact. Some are gonna bust for sure. Camp will tell us more.
Pats might not be that bad of a landing spot if they stick at 3 and take a QB. Not a ton of competition for targets there.I totally agree there could be 20 WRs in this class, who are WR3s or better in the NFL.
Ladd's overrated imo. It's not that he can't be really good; it's that there's a list of guys I prefer more than you (more than most). He's sitting at wr12 in my rankings.
The negative character stuff with Burton seems to be real, but who knows. I'm listening to him interview right now. Seems fine. Wish we had better information about this stuff. I have him a bit higher than Ladd, fwiw. He's a stud. He was the best wr on the field when Bama played Texas. 2 Tds called back or he'd have had 3. If he falls over character concerns, he gonna be a steal.
I think 19-20 of these wrs can make a fantasy impact. Some are gonna bust for sure. Camp will tell us more.
Personally, I think McConkey is among 7 WRs, that I think can be #1 WRs. I think Troy Franklin can too, if he can add some more weight, without losing speed, and his combine was indeed about him being sick. I do worry about any of them going to the Panthers/Pats in round 2, maybe getting a slower start.
Burton gives me some Michael Gallup (pre-knee) vibes, of being a deep threat that can be dangerous if treated as just a guy. I like him a lot in round 3.
Funnily enough, if you swap McConkey and Worthy, that's pretty close to my ranks.Fwiw, this is how Ladd sits at 12 for me.
4 Brian Thomas Jr.
5 Xavier Worthy
6 Adonai Mitchell
7 Troy Franklin
8 Keon Coleman
9 Jermaine Burton
10 Xavier Legette
11 Ricky Pearsall
12 Ladd McConkey
It's not faulting him. I've always had Franklin close to BTJ, and think he's the most overlooked lately. Pearsall looks and sounds a little more advanced technically and has such sick hands. He and Ladd have higher floors but I have them behind higher ceiling guys.
Waldman has Worthy at 4. He's not the only one. Then many have him lower than all these guys. He and Franklin the most polarizing?
The 33rd Team
Ladd McConkey with a seamless gauntlet at the Combine
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Yeah stock is up for sure. I would consider taking him over Worthy and I'm not even the biggest Ladd fan
There's probably 5 guys right now I wouldn't knock someone for taking at 5. He's one of them
Why not? He's got a more accurate QB, and the Chargers don't have a Mark Andrews around to be the real #1.
For sure won't roast you or make some proclamation you'll rue the day but I do have a clear cut top 5 and he's not in it, got him in that next tier which includes 2 other players.
I have Tier 1 = 1-4, and tier 2 about 5-10 (in agreement with a few commenters above). It's been years since it's been this fun to rank a rookie class.
Why yes indeed I do! /s
I would be looking to trade down to 1.09-10 if I owned the 1.05. Then take whoever slips. The trade down might get you a third which could be lucrative.
So who's gonna be getting these 30 carries a game on this team?
Not sure I'd classify as really dislikes, yeah down on him but my main takeaway was just thinks doesn't have ton of upside to be a #1 like someone like Coleman. Seems like a reasonable take.
I heard low upside about Kupp too.
Would you draft him over Brooks in a 14 team PPR Dynasty must start 2RB / 3WR? Needing both WR and RB.
of course there are exceptions to everything, Kupp was also drafted in the 3rd round so expectations were lower. obv. this guy could be wrong but seems like his reasoning his valid.
I would draft him over Brooks. I have him ranked 2 spots higher than Brooks. I need RBs in pretty much all my leagues, but I won't reach for Brooks where I draft in the middle of the first.
They took Kimani Vidal in the 6th.
In a vacuum, I'd personally go McConkey in PPR. But I usually lean WR.
