Colts claimed RB Justin Forsett off waivers (1 Viewer)

[Max Power]

Colts claimed RB Justin Forsett off waivers from the Seahawks.

Injuries cost Seattle a potential player here. Forsett becomes the Colts' No. 4 tailback, but could be active on Sundays because he plays special teams. He is a threat to Mike Hart as Indy's "backup of the future" for Joseph Addai.

Source: Seattle Times

 

[mdog1967]

Colts claimed RB Justin Forsett off waivers from the Seahawks.Injuries cost Seattle a potential player here. Forsett becomes the Colts' No. 4 tailback, but could be active on Sundays because he plays special teams. He is a threat to Mike Hart as Indy's "backup of the future" for Joseph Addai. Source: Seattle Times

Great pick up for the Colts, Seattle did Forsett a favor by releasing him to the waiver. They would have resigned him but too late. They will come to regret that decision with the dynamic duo of JJ and TJ in the backfield.

 

[Captain_Apocalypse]

Stupid move by seattle...screwed themselves here, no reason to release him anyway, for who? Some washed up never has been of a receiver? Panic move and it cost 'em. SUCK!

 

[thriftyrocker]

As someone who held onto Forsett in a couple dynasties, I'd rather he have signed back with Seattle. Even if Rhodes moves on after this year, that is still not too much opportunity in Indy.

 

[BigRed]

Run that by me again re no opportunity esp if Rhodes leaves? ??

 

[Crippler]

Mike Hart is also there. Forsett value went down

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I was hoping Chad Simpson would stick there.

 

[Fantaholic]

I think a very good, perhaps overrated, coach is about to go out with his worst season as a head coach.

 

[T Bell]

Run that by me again re no opportunity esp if Rhodes leaves? ??

Addai/Rhodes/Hart > Jones/Morris/Duckett as obstacles for getting playing time. I don't see a good way to dispute that fact.

 

[EBF]

Forsett is nothing special. Quincy Wilson v. 2.0.

If he was any good, Seattle would've found a way to keep him.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Heard many here in Seattle on radio sports segments questioning the decision to let Forsett go. He was arguable one of the shinier rays of light for the Seahaks in the preseason, and a lot of people held some hope for him to become a serviceable part of the O.

 

[amnesiac]

i don't know much about Forsett, but having watched Hart play at Michigan, i don't think he's anything special.

 

[Max Power]

Run that by me again re no opportunity esp if Rhodes leaves? ??

Addai/Rhodes/Hart > Jones/Morris/Duckett as obstacles for getting playing time. I don't see a good way to dispute that fact.

but when/if he gets the playing time, where is he more likely to produce?

 

[baconisgood]

Forsett is nothing special. Quincy Wilson v. 2.0. If he was any good, Seattle would've found a way to keep him.

If Derrick Anderson was any good...Teams make bad decisions (incorrect ones at the least) all the time.

 

[Muahahaha]

I'm surprised that no one is reflecting on what this means to Addai's health. Certainly doesn't imply good things.

 

[TheSoup]

The Colts simply BABY Addai. Oh my god, he got tackled. He's sitting on the sideline the rest of the game.

 

[switz]

Colts claimed RB Justin Forsett off waivers from the Seahawks.

Injuries cost Seattle a potential player here. Forsett becomes the Colts' No. 4 tailback, but could be active on Sundays because he plays special teams. He is a threat to Mike Hart as Indy's "backup of the future" for Joseph Addai.

Source: Seattle Times

Not really...Rhodes hasn't been impressive since he's been back with the Colts. If anything, at some point this season Rhodes will be relegated to 3rd string and Hart will become the primary backup to Addai. Rhodes is only here for one year at most, if not earlier (if they need to make a roster spot open, Rhodes will be cut)

 

[switz]

I'm surprised that no one is reflecting on what this means to Addai's health. Certainly doesn't imply good things.

Don't you think that's a bit of an overreaction? The team is carrying three RBs, total. Adding one who was cut by a team with sucky RBs doesn't speak anything about Addai at all. As someone else mentioned, Forsett is a good special teams player. It's doubtful he ever sees part of the offense at all.

 

[identikit]

Run that by me again re no opportunity esp if Rhodes leaves? ??

Addai/Rhodes/Hart > Jones/Morris/Duckett as obstacles for getting playing time. I don't see a good way to dispute that fact.

but when/if he gets the playing time, where is he more likely to produce?

I could see Forsett being used as a special teams/return guy.The Colts' kick/punt coverage is horrible and Roby's looked kinda shaky thus far in the return game..

 

[TheSoup]

Switz sighting.

 

[IndyHavoc]

Colts claimed RB Justin Forsett off waivers from the Seahawks.

Injuries cost Seattle a potential player here. Forsett becomes the Colts' No. 4 tailback, but could be active on Sundays because he plays special teams. He is a threat to Mike Hart as Indy's "backup of the future" for Joseph Addai.

Source: Seattle Times

Not really...Rhodes hasn't been impressive since he's been back with the Colts. If anything, at some point this season Rhodes will be relegated to 3rd string and Hart will become the primary backup to Addai. Rhodes is only here for one year at most, if not earlier (if they need to make a roster spot open, Rhodes will be cut)

I think this is as much about ST as anything else however. Colts I think are still searching for something more from the return game and coverage teams. Forsett should be able to be quickly integrated into those phases and might be able to get on the field as a skat back later in the season as Rhodes gets phased out for Hart/Forsett.And btw, I'm a Rhodes owner. He just isn't the same guy and that O-line isn't helping.

 

[zamboni]

Rhodes is only here for one year at most, if not earlier (if they need to make a roster spot open, Rhodes will be cut)

I was thinking the exact same thing with the Forsett signing. If Hart and Forsett show team brass start to prove that they can not only run the ball but pass protect, I wouldn't be shocked to see Rhodes let go at some point this year. I think the only thing that would keep Rhodes around is his ability to protect Peyton - which, to be sure, is not a trivial consideration.

 

[switz]

Switz sighting.

Anything else to add? I'm pretty sure everyone else saw my posts, and didn't need you to alert them to my posting.I know you're not saying anything negative about me etc., but posts like yours really just clutter up the board. Do you have any thoughts on what Forsett's addition will mean? How it affects the RB rotation? Does it have an impact on Addai, or represent any concerns about his health? How does Forsett's ST ability paired with Indy's ST ineptness impact your view of the signing?

 

[djcolts]

The Colts need to pick up a DT. Badly. There better be another move coming this week (at worst, picking up DT Colin Ferrell - who played decently in pre-season and at least weighs over 300 pounds). I'm not thrilled about picking up a 4th RB when they have a huge hole at DT that needs to be filled ASAP.

 

[Muahahaha]

I'm surprised that no one is reflecting on what this means to Addai's health. Certainly doesn't imply good things.

Don't you think that's a bit of an overreaction? The team is carrying three RBs, total. Adding one who was cut by a team with sucky RBs doesn't speak anything about Addai at all. As someone else mentioned, Forsett is a good special teams player. It's doubtful he ever sees part of the offense at all.

I don't think it's an overreaction. He is injured. A week ago they were comfortable with three RBs; now they aren't. I think it is appropriate to draw some sore of conclusion from that.I had Addai on my championship team last year. Loved him. But he faded down the stretch. This year, they bring back Rhodes, draft Hart, and now pick up Forsett. I can't help but conclude that his role in the offense will be less than last year. The Colts are telling us something.

 

[T Bell]

I'm surprised that no one is reflecting on what this means to Addai's health. Certainly doesn't imply good things.

Don't you think that's a bit of an overreaction? The team is carrying three RBs, total. Adding one who was cut by a team with sucky RBs doesn't speak anything about Addai at all. As someone else mentioned, Forsett is a good special teams player. It's doubtful he ever sees part of the offense at all.

I don't think it's an overreaction. He is injured. A week ago they were comfortable with three RBs; now they aren't. I think it is appropriate to draw some sore of conclusion from that.I had Addai on my championship team last year. Loved him. But he faded down the stretch. This year, they bring back Rhodes, draft Hart, and now pick up Forsett. I can't help but conclude that his role in the offense will be less than last year. The Colts are telling us something.

What the Colts are telling us is that they like a RBBC. I don't think you can say for certain that this is about Addai any more than it's about Rhodes or even just about some opportunism at grabbing a decent RB prospect who was carelessly dumped by another team. As for Addai, I continue to have trouble understanding why he was drafted so high. His career high in carries was last year when he had 260. The only guy drafted near him in redrafts with that little on his resume (who I also have doubted for the same reason) was Marion Barber, and Barber is IMHO more talented of a runner than Addai.

I don't exactly know what this means for Forsett except that the RB4 on any NFL squad is almost inevitably going to be a special teamer who won't see the field with the offense unless at least two of the guys ahead of him go down. We'd better hope that the prediction about Rhodes getting released is valid because otherwise Forsett's stuck in a very deep hole on that depth chart at the moment.

 

[switz]

As for Addai, I continue to have trouble understanding why he was drafted so high. His career high in carries was last year when he had 260.

His second year in the league, his first as a starter. Come on, you're better than that.Barber's career high was 204 in more seasons... yet you're all over him. (over 20% fewer carries, but more talented )Forsett's signing had NOTHING to do with Addai. Rhodes, Hart, and Forsett are backups... and guess what, just because someone is assigned a certain position, doesn't mean their addition is for that position at all. Forsett is a ST player, that's it....Please stop this nonsense. The Shark Pool should be better than that.

 

[T Bell]

As for Addai, I continue to have trouble understanding why he was drafted so high. His career high in carries was last year when he had 260.

His second year in the league, his first as a starter. Come on, you're better than that.Barber's career high was 204 in more seasons... yet you're all over him. (over 20% fewer carries, but more talented )Forsett's signing had NOTHING to do with Addai. Rhodes, Hart, and Forsett are backups... and guess what, just because someone is assigned a certain position, doesn't mean their addition is for that position at all. Forsett is a ST player, that's it....Please stop this nonsense. The Shark Pool should be better than that.

Yep, his second year as the starter with nothing but clear sailing and the likes of Kenton Keith to contend with, and he managed 260 carries. And he averaged a whopping 4.1 yards per carry despite having the luxury of that passing offense to keep defenses off of him. His longest run? 23 yards. So yes, Barber is more talented than Addai.

 

[switz]

As for Addai, I continue to have trouble understanding why he was drafted so high. His career high in carries was last year when he had 260.

His second year in the league, his first as a starter. Come on, you're better than that.Barber's career high was 204 in more seasons... yet you're all over him. (over 20% fewer carries, but more talented )Forsett's signing had NOTHING to do with Addai. Rhodes, Hart, and Forsett are backups... and guess what, just because someone is assigned a certain position, doesn't mean their addition is for that position at all. Forsett is a ST player, that's it....Please stop this nonsense. The Shark Pool should be better than that.

Yep, his second year as the starter with nothing but clear sailing and the likes of Kenton Keith to contend with, and he managed 260 carries.

In 15 games while injured and playing behind an OL missing 3 starters for most of the season. Care to spin any more facts to suit your opinion?

And he averaged a whopping 4.1 yards per carry despite having the luxury of that passing offense to keep defenses off of him. His longest run? 23 yards. So yes, Barber is more talented than Addai.

When's the last time Barber had a 100 yard rushing, 100 yard receiving game? Yeah, I thought so...Barber is nowhere near the talent Addai is. Barber was a 4th round pick for a reason.

 

[EBF]

Barber is nowhere near the talent Addai is. Barber was a 4th round pick for a reason.

 

[duece2626]

Barber is nowhere near the talent Addai is. Barber was a 4th round pick for a reason.

 

[Scooby1974]

I'd like to know how people stack Addai up to other RB's as well. Guys like Gore, Lynch, MBIII, Chris Johnson...

Is Addai going to continue being a top 5 back, or are we seeing signs of his drop to the 8-10 slot?

I've been considering Addai in a dyno league...just not sold on the idea of him being the workhorse.

 

[saintfool]

I'd like to know how people stack Addai up to other RB's as well. Guys like Gore, Lynch, MBIII, Chris Johnson...Is Addai going to continue being a top 5 back, or are we seeing signs of his drop to the 8-10 slot?I've been considering Addai in a dyno league...just not sold on the idea of him being the workhorse.

i think his production is a product of the Colts system. He can't carry the team during a game, much less a string of games. Consequently, when the offense - Manning really - isn't clicking, he's not going to be very effective. Peyton will shake off the rust but even better news is that Jeff Saturday looks to return to practice as early as this week. His absence really hurt Manning's effectiveness, I think.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Barber is nowhere near the talent Addai is. Barber was a 4th round pick for a reason.

I thought he was doing pretty well in the argument until right there.

 

[switz]

Barber is nowhere near the talent Addai is. Barber was a 4th round pick for a reason.

I thought he was doing pretty well in the argument until right there.

That's because Barber is seriously overrated on these boards... I'd love for someone to make a legitimate argument about Barber's talent versus Addai'sLet's see:Combine numbers - Addai by a mile, one of the best combine workouts in a decadeDraft position - Addai again by a large marginCarries per season - Addai100 yard games - Addai100 yard receiving games - Addai200 total yard games - AddaiTD % inside the 3 - AddaiSpeed - AddaiMoves - AddaiVision - maybe a tie?Power - Barber

 

[travdogg]

I'd like to know how people stack Addai up to other RB's as well. Guys like Gore, Lynch, MBIII, Chris Johnson...Is Addai going to continue being a top 5 back, or are we seeing signs of his drop to the 8-10 slot?I've been considering Addai in a dyno league...just not sold on the idea of him being the workhorse.

I'd rank that group:AddaiLynchGoreBarberJohnsonAddai is very underrated and its a major reach for anyone to think that Forsett is any threat to Addai's carries. I agree with many others that the Forsett move was simply seeing a player cut by another team who should not have been and the Colts jumping on the chance. Maybe Forsett can push Rhodes aside by the end of the year, but Hart is still there and he's likely the RB2 for that team soon enough anyways. In the meantime this move will hopefully help shore up a very leaky special teams unit.

 

[zamboni]

Barber is nowhere near the talent Addai is. Barber was a 4th round pick for a reason.

I thought he was doing pretty well in the argument until right there.

That's because Barber is seriously overrated on these boards... I'd love for someone to make a legitimate argument about Barber's talent versus Addai'sLet's see:Combine numbers - Addai by a mile, one of the best combine workouts in a decadeDraft position - Addai again by a large marginCarries per season - Addai100 yard games - Addai100 yard receiving games - Addai200 total yard games - AddaiTD % inside the 3 - AddaiSpeed - AddaiMoves - AddaiVision - maybe a tie?Power - Barber

That may be all well and true historically, but this Addai owner would rather have Barber right now - hands down - at least from a fantasy standpoint. I have to imagine most Addai owners feel the same way.

 

[EBF]

Barber is nowhere near the talent Addai is. Barber was a 4th round pick for a reason.

I thought he was doing pretty well in the argument until right there.

That's because Barber is seriously overrated on these boards... I'd love for someone to make a legitimate argument about Barber's talent versus Addai'sLet's see:

Combine numbers - Addai by a mile, one of the best combine workouts in a decade

Uhh....Barber was a workout warrior. Probably even better than Addai.

Marion Barber

40 Yard Dash - 4.49

Broad Jump - 10'7"

Vertical Jump - 40"

Bench Press - 20

Joseph Addai

40 Yard Dash - 4.40

Broad Jump - 10'5"

Vertical Jump - 38.5"

Bench Press - 18

I don't think there are many GMs in the NFL who would rather have Addai right now. I don't think Addai is anywhere near as talented as you make him out to be.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Barber is nowhere near the talent Addai is. Barber was a 4th round pick for a reason.

I thought he was doing pretty well in the argument until right there.

That's because Barber is seriously overrated on these boards... I'd love for someone to make a legitimate argument about Barber's talent versus Addai'sLet's see:Combine numbers - Addai by a mile, one of the best combine workouts in a decadeDraft position - Addai again by a large marginCarries per season - Addai100 yard games - Addai100 yard receiving games - Addai200 total yard games - AddaiTD % inside the 3 - AddaiSpeed - AddaiMoves - AddaiVision - maybe a tie?Power - Barber

But you overvalue Addai, IMO, so it's almost a wash. And I like Addai. But saying he is way more talented than Barber is hyperbole. He is slightly more talented than Barber. Either way, Justin Forsett is not stealing carries from Addai. That's silly.

 

[EBF]

Draft position - Addai again by a large marginCarries per season - Addai

I harp on draft position as much as anyone, but it becomes less and less important the longer a player has been in the league. By now the fact that Barber was a fourth round pick is irrelevant. Do you think Brian Westbrook lacks talent because he was a third round pick? You like Michael Turner a lot. He was a fifth round pick. If draft position is so significant then surely you must hold the same concerns about Westbrook and Turner, no? As for carries, that doesn't prove talent. LenDale White had 300+ carries last season. That doesn't make him more talented than MJD. I'm sure if Barber was on a team like the Colts or Chiefs he would've been fed the rock. In any given season the number of carries a back receives is determined by supporting cast, coaching philosophy, team strength, and other factors that have little to do with a player's talent.

 

[switz]

Barber is nowhere near the talent Addai is. Barber was a 4th round pick for a reason.

I thought he was doing pretty well in the argument until right there.

That's because Barber is seriously overrated on these boards... I'd love for someone to make a legitimate argument about Barber's talent versus Addai'sLet's see:

Combine numbers - Addai by a mile, one of the best combine workouts in a decade

Uhh....Barber was a workout warrior. Probably even better than Addai.

Marion Barber

40 Yard Dash - 4.49

Broad Jump - 10'7"

Vertical Jump - 40"

Bench Press - 20

Joseph Addai

40 Yard Dash - 4.40

Broad Jump - 10'5"

Vertical Jump - 38.5"

Bench Press - 18

I don't think there are many GMs in the NFL who would rather have Addai right now. I don't think Addai is anywhere near as talented as you make him out to be.

Hmmm.... nfldraftscout used to have a feature where you could have the top25 combine workouts at any position over the past I believe 8 years... in every category Addai was listed among the top. Perhaps the difference is that Addai's 40 time was really good, where Barber's wasn't. The rest of their numbers are very close. But I was wrong, I swore Addai's combine was much better than Barber's.

 

[nzranger]

So where does everyone think Addai ends up this season? top5, top10, top15?

And will he be the back next year barring injury?

 

[TitusIII]

I'd like to know how people stack Addai up to other RB's as well. Guys like Gore, Lynch, MBIII, Chris Johnson...Is Addai going to continue being a top 5 back, or are we seeing signs of his drop to the 8-10 slot?I've been considering Addai in a dyno league...just not sold on the idea of him being the workhorse.

i think his production is a product of the Colts system. He can't carry the team during a game, much less a string of games. Consequently, when the offense - Manning really - isn't clicking, he's not going to be very effective. Peyton will shake off the rust but even better news is that Jeff Saturday looks to return to practice as early as this week. His absence really hurt Manning's effectiveness, I think.

 

[gianmarco]

But I was wrong

Hell hath frozen overeth

 

[mdog1967]

As for Addai, I continue to have trouble understanding why he was drafted so high. His career high in carries was last year when he had 260.

His second year in the league, his first as a starter. Come on, you're better than that.Barber's career high was 204 in more seasons... yet you're all over him. (over 20% fewer carries, but more talented )Forsett's signing had NOTHING to do with Addai. Rhodes, Hart, and Forsett are backups... and guess what, just because someone is assigned a certain position, doesn't mean their addition is for that position at all. Forsett is a ST player, that's it....Please stop this nonsense. The Shark Pool should be better than that.

Sometimes you just get it wrong Switz, the Colts did not hesitate to grab Forsett. He is a very good but undersized RB. He was the best RB on the Seattle Roster IMHO. But you are not going to start an inexperienced guy over a big free agent signing without looking like fools. Guess what? the Colts saw him for what he is: a good hard runner with decent speed and great agility and above average vision. Addai is a good not great RB, Addai spends many hours on the ouch couch, it makes perfect sense to bring the guy aboard. Hart is all heart but very slow for a man his size, as in I could jump from the stands on any given Sunday and run him down myself, he's that kind of slow. If he had not been with U of M he would have never been drafted. Rhodes = almost done.Is he going to be the back up this year - no. Does he have a shot at back up next year? I think he will push Hart to the waiver wire. Could he be a complementary back to a less than dynamic Addai, absolutely. I think Forsett could be the guy that give the Colts a few gadget plays and a potential play maker.

 

[identikit]

In what could be a related move:

(KFFL) The Indianapolis Colts have announced they have waived WR Courtney Roby.

I could see Forsett being the return guy for the Colts.

 

[az_prof]

Mike Hart is also there. Forsett value went down

Agreed. And Addai is a young stud. so right now Forsett's value even in dynasty is close to zero. In Seattle he had a good chance of starting in the near future with only Mo and JJ and Duckett ahead of him, and all of them quite a bit older and none of them being a true lead back.

 

[blackjack23]

Switz sighting.

Anything else to add? I'm pretty sure everyone else saw my posts, and didn't need you to alert them to my posting.I know you're not saying anything negative about me etc., but posts like yours really just clutter up the board. Do you have any thoughts on what Forsett's addition will mean? How it affects the RB rotation? Does it have an impact on Addai, or represent any concerns about his health? How does Forsett's ST ability paired with Indy's ST ineptness impact your view of the signing?

Oh but your ####### signature doesnt?

 

[saintfool]

Mike Hart is also there. Forsett value went down

Agreed. And Addai is a young stud. so right now Forsett's value even in dynasty is close to zero. In Seattle he had a good chance of starting in the near future with only Mo and JJ and Duckett ahead of him, and all of them quite a bit older and none of them being a true lead back.

kind of my thinking. i'm not going to waste a roster spot on a guy that has absolutely no chance to start even in a dynasty situation. he's got 3 players ahead of him! i figure that he'll be floating in the waiver wire at season's end. i can wait to see where he ends up or if changes in the colts roster somehow indicate an investment in him on their part.

 

[switz]

Switz sighting.

Anything else to add? I'm pretty sure everyone else saw my posts, and didn't need you to alert them to my posting.I know you're not saying anything negative about me etc., but posts like yours really just clutter up the board. Do you have any thoughts on what Forsett's addition will mean? How it affects the RB rotation? Does it have an impact on Addai, or represent any concerns about his health? How does Forsett's ST ability paired with Indy's ST ineptness impact your view of the signing?

Oh but your ####### signature doesnt?

Turn off signatures in your controls.... you have that option.