Consensus Top 300 Albums of All-Time: Taking lists of your 70 favorite albums until 7/1 (3 Viewers)

[Ilov80s]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

One thing quickly became clear: I don't really listen to albums anymore

Same here.

For both of you: why is that?

For me, I don't know if it's some weird form of late-in-life ADD setting in or what. But listening to too much of the same thing these days both bores and agitates me.

Luckily, I won't have to listen to entire albums won't be an issue for my list here as I'm going straight wheelhouse. I know these records well enough from listening to them a bazillion times.

This is me too. Sometime I will put a specific artist on shuffle for an hour or more but with that I feel I can tap out anytime, but with an album I feel obligated to finish it

I’ll occasionally throw a full album on for nostalgia but pretty rare I will play something new all the way through

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I’m still unsure how I want to rank this, most likely it’s going to be albums I listened to the most with some stalwarts thrown in

 

[krista4]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

This is the scoring. He set it out in the fourth post.

 

[krista4]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

 

[FiredMartz]

Grand Funk doesn't have 60 albums. What the hell am I supposed to do? Pick Billy Joel LPs?

you can add Black Oak Arkansas !!!!

 

[Ilov80s]

Also, this is "albums" as in us older people still call all of the releases "albums" or limited to vinyl only?

Current music on vinyl is still popular. All the new stuff like Bad Bunny, Beyoncé, Waxahatchee are all pressed and sold on vinyl. If you find a local record shop you will be taken back to your youth, they are quite cool and do great business with young people.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I like vinyl, but i am also lazy and like Spotify so i dont have to flip a record.

 

[rockaction]

One thing quickly became clear: I don't really listen to albums anymore

Same here.

For both of you: why is that?

For me, I don't know if it's some weird form of late-in-life ADD setting in or what. But listening to too much of the same thing these days both bores and agitates me.

Luckily, I won't have to listen to entire albums won't be an issue for my list here as I'm going straight wheelhouse. I know these records well enough from listening to them a bazillion times.

I don't necessarily listen to entire albums these days. If the way I'm listening to music feels perfunctory then I tend to quit or ditch any lofty but ultimately inhibiting intentions. When I was younger and punkier rocking I didn't even give the album slog a thought, and it was a badge of honor to have not heard whole albums even from bands I really dug and albums I enjoyed. There were few music experiences that were better than discovering the eleventh song off of an album l loved that had sections or clumps I'd listened to all the time a year or two earlier.

I can appreciate where Uruk_Hai is coming from about getting antsy with too much of the same thing over any passage of time that makes it feel like I'm not enjoying listening to music I love but instead bogging down my id with a task that I'm forcing myself to see through to completion. Not much for that these days.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point

No, it doesn't go without saying.

 

[Bluesbomber]

Sorry if asked and answered but do live albums fall under greatest hits. In the 70's I had half or more of most listened to lp's live, Frampton comes alive, Skynard, Live Bullet, Welcome back my friends, Yessongs, On your feet or on your knees , 2112, although Yes, BOC and Rush I had multiple studio releases as well. Good either way but Frampton and Seger no way would make top 60 but those two might if allowed. Great exercise for a newly retired music freak reentering the fbg's realm good buddies.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Sorry if asked and answered but do live albums fall under greatest hits. In the 70's I had half or more of most listened to lp's live, Frampton comes alive, Skynard, Live Bullet, Welcome back my friends, Yessongs, On your feet or on your knees , 2112, although Yes, BOC and Rush I had multiple studio releases as well. Good either way but Frampton and Seger no way would make top 60 but those two might if allowed. Great exercise for a newly retired music freak reentering the fbg's realm good buddies.

Yes live albums are allowed. My preference is “time and place” v “greatest hits” live albums but that can be self policed.

This is the last time I’m going to answer questions that are already answered in the thread. This is the third time I’ve answered that now.

 

[titusbramble]

Pulling list together. Up to about 45 just making list in the pub. Should get up to 70 once I actually look at my CD pile and remember what I've forgotten

 

[krista4]

Sorry if asked and answered but do live albums fall under greatest hits. In the 70's I had half or more of most listened to lp's live, Frampton comes alive, Skynard, Live Bullet, Welcome back my friends, Yessongs, On your feet or on your knees , 2112, although Yes, BOC and Rush I had multiple studio releases as well. Good either way but Frampton and Seger no way would make top 60 but those two might if allowed. Great exercise for a newly retired music freak reentering the fbg's realm good buddies.

Yes live albums are allowed. My preference is “time and place” v “greatest hits” live albums but that can be self policed.

This is the last time I’m going to answer questions that are already answered in the thread. This is the third time I’ve answered that now.

Get used to people not reading your posts.

 

[Bluesbomber]

Sorry if asked and answered but do live albums fall under greatest hits. In the 70's I had half or more of most listened to lp's live, Frampton comes alive, Skynard, Live Bullet, Welcome back my friends, Yessongs, On your feet or on your knees , 2112, although Yes, BOC and Rush I had multiple studio releases as well. Good either way but Frampton and Seger no way would make top 60 but those two might if allowed. Great exercise for a newly retired music freak reentering the fbg's realm good buddies.

Yes live albums are allowed. My preference is “time and place” v “greatest hits” live albums but that can be self policed.

This is the last time I’m going to answer questions that are already answered in the thread. This is the third time I’ve answered that now.

Thank you, I am on my 2nd day of retirement, and procrastinating before mowing so hopped on fbg's. I will catch up with thread, and answer for some others lol. Thanks again for your efforts. Be well, have fun.

 

[Yo Mama]

Sorry if asked and answered but do live albums fall under greatest hits. In the 70's I had half or more of most listened to lp's live, Frampton comes alive, Skynard, Live Bullet, Welcome back my friends, Yessongs, On your feet or on your knees , 2112, although Yes, BOC and Rush I had multiple studio releases as well. Good either way but Frampton and Seger no way would make top 60 but those two might if allowed. Great exercise for a newly retired music freak reentering the fbg's realm good buddies.

Yes live albums are allowed. My preference is “time and place” v “greatest hits” live albums but that can be self policed.

This is the last time I’m going to answer questions that are already answered in the thread. This is the third time I’ve answered that now.

Get used to people not reading your posts.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Sorry if asked and answered but do live albums fall under greatest hits. In the 70's I had half or more of most listened to lp's live, Frampton comes alive, Skynard, Live Bullet, Welcome back my friends, Yessongs, On your feet or on your knees , 2112, although Yes, BOC and Rush I had multiple studio releases as well. Good either way but Frampton and Seger no way would make top 60 but those two might if allowed. Great exercise for a newly retired music freak reentering the fbg's realm good buddies.

Yes live albums are allowed. My preference is “time and place” v “greatest hits” live albums but that can be self policed.

This is the last time I’m going to answer questions that are already answered in the thread. This is the third time I’ve answered that now.

Get used to people not reading your posts.

Sorry if asked and answered but do live albums fall under greatest hits. In the 70's I had half or more of most listened to lp's live, Frampton comes alive, Skynard, Live Bullet, Welcome back my friends, Yessongs, On your feet or on your knees , 2112, although Yes, BOC and Rush I had multiple studio releases as well. Good either way but Frampton and Seger no way would make top 60 but those two might if allowed. Great exercise for a newly retired music freak reentering the fbg's realm good buddies.

Yes live albums are allowed. My preference is “time and place” v “greatest hits” live albums but that can be self policed.

This is the last time I’m going to answer questions that are already answered in the thread. This is the third time I’ve answered that now.

Get used to people not reading your posts.

Once again, no one reads krista's posts.

 

[Eephus]

Another month of nerdery before the deadline

 

[turnjose7]

So tomorrow is really the due date? And did we determine Allmusic is the official source for naming correctly? I imagine that will matter for things like Led Zeppelin IV, for instance?

Last question: do Instant Live albums count? If so, I'm pretty confident I can make my entire list out of albums by The Allman Brothers and their spinoff groups.

Sorry, I misread the date.

I understand live albums are allowed. Maybe people don't know what Instant Live is if you don't follow a lot of jam bands, but what I meant is a recording of a concert that a band makes immediately available without additional production, mostly targeted to people who went to the concert, but isn't generally included in their official discography. I have dozens of Allman Brother and Black Crowes "albums" that are just recording of random concerts, but they aren't really considered to be among their mainstream albums. Some later get a more mainstream release as an "archival" album, but most don't. The latter seems like it should be allowed, but not the former. Similarly, I would think it would need to be released by the band proper and not by an archivist. So no ****'s Picks or Dave's Picks for the Grateful Dead, for example.

Obviously it's whatever you decide, but that's just my recommendation.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Obviously it's whatever you decide, but that's just my recommendation.

I don’t see how they are different than any other live albums.

That’s up to you - but if you go that route I wouldn’t count on seeing many of your picks make the Top 300 countdown.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Another month of nerdery before the deadline

If we get some lists in I can start reporting on trends - but I wanted to give people enough time to figure their lists out.

 

[Chaos34]

If we get some lists in I can start reporting on trends - but I wanted to give people enough time to figure their lists out.

I didn't feel like giving this any real thought for a few days, but of course favorite albums start trickling into my thoughts of how to rank them. I just want to emphasize something. I hate you.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Another month of nerdery before the deadline

You got a problem with that, bub?

 

[Eephus]

Another month of nerdery before the deadline

You got a problem with that, bub?

It's kind of what we do here

 

[El Floppo]

ANNOUNCEMENT

For the sake of consistency with past threads, I am upping the submission list to 70 albums.

IM OUT

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

It could also go without saying that whatever album is first on your list gets 70 points, so you just work your way down with the points based on how many albums you list.

 

[Yo Mama]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

It could also go without saying that whatever album is first on your list gets 70 points, so you just work your way down with the points based on how many albums you list.

I’m here for the grind. I’m ranking 140 albums so my top album counts double the rest of you fools’ using Ghost’s scoring.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

It could also go without saying that whatever album is first on your list gets 70 points, so you just work your way down with the points based on how many albums you list.

I’m here for the grind. I’m ranking 140 albums so my top album counts double the rest of you fools’ using Ghost’s scoring.

Yo going to pull a JML and Yo Daddy is going show up for the countdown??

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

It could also go without saying that whatever album is first on your list gets 70 points, so you just work your way down with the points based on how many albums you list.

Given the format, this is how I'd do it.

I'd actually "lift" the bottom (snicker) quite a bit to dampen the ratio-kill. There's no way I think my number one album is 70 times better than my number seventy. I got into a discussion in one of tim's threads a few years ago about this, but couldn't articulate it well enough. I also don't know what the "right" numbers would be.

Anyway, it's Doc's thread and his house, his rules

 

[Yo Mama]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

It could also go without saying that whatever album is first on your list gets 70 points, so you just work your way down with the points based on how many albums you list.

I’m here for the grind. I’m ranking 140 albums so my top album counts double the rest of you fools’ using Ghost’s scoring.

Yo going to pull a JML and Yo Daddy is going show up for the countdown??

How do you think I “won” the greatest TV rankings? Flood the ballot box, baby.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

It could also go without saying that whatever album is first on your list gets 70 points, so you just work your way down with the points based on how many albums you list.

I’m here for the grind. I’m ranking 140 albums so my top album counts double the rest of you fools’ using Ghost’s scoring.

Yo going to pull a JML and Yo Daddy is going show up for the countdown??

Thats a bit harsh. I never entered my other id for the tv countdown. Strictly MAD related.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

O/U on Doc Oc getting pissed about the whole process before we start = 7.5

 

[Uruk-Hai]

O/U on Doc Oc getting pissed about the whole process before we start = 7.5

I don't even know what the O/U is supposed to be. Days? Hours? Minutes?

I'm taking the under in any case

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

It could also go without saying that whatever album is first on your list gets 70 points, so you just work your way down with the points based on how many albums you list.

Given the format, this is how I'd do it.

I'd actually "lift" the bottom (snicker) quite a bit to dampen the ratio-kill. There's no way I think my number one album is 70 times better than my number seventy. I got into a discussion in one of tim's threads a few years ago about this, but couldn't articulate it well enough. I also don't know what the "right" numbers would be.

Anyway, it's Doc's thread and his house, his rules

If we go to a logarithmic scale, I'm out.

 

[In The Zone]

I'm going to have to start listening to albums for a while and I'm getting ready to start on a 6.5 hour road trip taking me to Columbia and Charleston SC arriving back home @ 2am. First album in the queue,

LIVE
Throwing Copper

 

[KarmaPolice]

How many albums are we submitting?

 

[Eephus]

I'm going to have to start listening to albums for a while and I'm getting ready to start on a 6.5 hour road trip taking me to Columbia and Charleston SC arriving back home @ 2am. First album in the queue,

LIVE
Throwing Copper

I guess those Live albums are eligible

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

It could also go without saying that whatever album is first on your list gets 70 points, so you just work your way down with the points based on how many albums you list.

This was all addressed on page one or two when KP asked what would happen if someone submitted only 10 albums.


But you’re right.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Fun exercise, and one that will make us think and ponder.

I would add as well that the key is that everyone must submit the same number of albums to make this work. If someone submits a list with only 10 or 15 albums, it is unbalanced from the rest and skews the results. Not a big deal obviously since this is just for fun anyway, but it's still a good idea to keep it orderly, IMO of course.

Why would someone submitting less albums skew the results? I don’t think it’s a situation where you have X number of points to give and if I turned in just a list with one William Hung album that it would get all X points and instantly be rocketed to the number 1 spot.

I assume every top ranked album gets 70 points, second ranked album gets 69 points or something similar. Anything not submitted just means you’re missing a chance to potentially imprint the list with your tastes.

I would flip it this way, then. Start at the bottom with 1 point and work your way up, so if you submit a list with just 20 albums, your number 1 album gets 20 points instead of 70. Someone's number 1 shouldn't get the 70 points if they aren't sending a list with 70 albums.

I don't understand why not.

Why would you give the max points to someone who is not listing the max number of albums? That would make zero sense. It goes without saying that whatever album is last on your list gets 1 point, so you just work your way up with the points based on how many albums you list.

It could also go without saying that whatever album is first on your list gets 70 points, so you just work your way down with the points based on how many albums you list.

Given the format, this is how I'd do it.

I'd actually "lift" the bottom (snicker) quite a bit to dampen the ratio-kill. There's no way I think my number one album is 70 times better than my number seventy. I got into a discussion in one of tim's threads a few years ago about this, but couldn't articulate it well enough. I also don't know what the "right" numbers would be.

Anyway, it's Doc's thread and his house, his rules

I get that argument but I’m barely smart enough to figure it out this way. It’s not perfect but it should still do a good job establishing some consensus.

 

[kupcho1]

OK, so updating for 70 albums and the fact that live albums are out of bounds, here's some stats on my (current) list:

• Oldest album on the list - 1963
• Newest album on the list - 2015 (had forgotten about a release in 2015 that will absolutely be on my final, no kidding, seriously, submitted list)
• 1960s - 6
• 1970s - 17
• 1980s - 17
• 1990s - 10
• 2000s - 18
• 2010s - 2

I mildly surprised I've got more from the 2000s than the 80s or 70s. Until it changes. Repeatedly.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

OK, so updating for 70 albums and the fact that live albums are out of bounds, here's some stats on my (current) list:

• Oldest album on the list - 1963
• Newest album on the list - 2015 (had forgotten about a release in 2015 that will absolutely be on my final, no kidding, seriously, submitted list)
• 1960s - 6
• 1970s - 17
• 1980s - 17
• 1990s - 10
• 2000s - 18
• 2010s - 2

I mildly surprised I've got more from the 2000s than the 80s or 70s. Until it changes. Repeatedly.

Most live albums are not out of bounds. Did you not read anyone’s posts?

Greatest hits albums are out of bounds.

 

[kupcho1]

Did you not read anyone’s posts?

 

[kupcho1]

I'm struggling to find that one mandatory greatest hits album for my list, but I can't find anything that isn't also a live album.

Triple word score.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

This is like herding cats.

 

[Yo Mama]

My theme for this round is top 85 greatest hits and/or soundtrack comipilation albums, ordered chronologically and only using prime numbers. These will be studio versions only since live albums aren’t allowed.

 

[Dennis Castro]

Very sorry if this has been addressed, but are movie soundtracks OK? My list has a few. Some are full of original material that first appeared on the soundtrack, but some are compilations, such as a certain double album released alongside a Gary Sinise movie.

 

[krista4]

I feel like Dr. O now has greater appreciation for me.

 

[kupcho1]

This is like herding cats.

Why would you want to hurt cats?