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Nice try.. Maybe you can post the link 6 more times and it'll make your assertion true.. If they cheated, and it was proven by the NFL, your only proof wouldn't be a youtube video..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY26rgd4apsI think that covers every post of yours which states Coughlin does it without cheating.you nailed it..
I think BB is a great coach but I don't think that a "genius" whose team is led by "the greatest QB of all time" gets beat in the championship game twice in five years by an "inferior" coach. Coughlin deserves the accolades.
Nice try.. Maybe you can post the link 6 more times and it'll make your assertion true.. If they cheated, and it was proven by the NFL, your only proof wouldn't be a youtube video..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY26rgd4apsI think that covers every post of yours which states Coughlin does it without cheating.
So faking injuries is not cheating?It is so obvious you have bias.
Coughlin is a good coach yes, but that is not the question ir statement othat is the title of this thread.Coughlin is far from the greatness of BB. BB has been there more times then Coughlin, has more rings then Coughlin, and has been there as a member of another team more then Coughlin.Does Coughlin have BB number head to head, that too is obvious.But if you were starting a team would you really take coughlin over BB?Keep in mind, Coughlin was not the one dropping passing for the Patriots late in the game, if that did not happen would we still be talking about coughlin in this light?
You don't know that a player wasn't injured.. How could you possibly prove that? The NFL hasn't said they were cheating, they make and enforce the rules.. But somehow you know better..Nice try.. Maybe you can post the link 6 more times and it'll make your assertion true.. If they cheated, and it was proven by the NFL, your only proof wouldn't be a youtube video..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY26rgd4apsI think that covers every post of yours which states Coughlin does it without cheating.
You cannot be serious.You don't know that a player wasn't injured.. How could you possibly prove that? The NFL hasn't said they were cheating, they make and enforce the rules.. But somehow you know better..Nice try.. Maybe you can post the link 6 more times and it'll make your assertion true.. If they cheated, and it was proven by the NFL, your only proof wouldn't be a youtube video..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY26rgd4apsI think that covers every post of yours which states Coughlin does it without cheating.
Dropped passes are part of football.. Coaches have to work with what they are given.. So you're suggesting Coughlin never has had a player to drop a pass?
Exactly. Coughlin had his players ready to play, while the poorly-coached guys on the other sideline were dropping passes and committing committing costly penalties. I think that's sort of the point.
Do you try to flip the questions everytime until you try to back yourself out of your own comments, or do you ever answer a question?
"Pats would have won if they didn't have dropped passes"... Wow.. lol"Patriots would have won the game if the players would have scored more points then the Giants.."
Of the Giants don't fake injuries they don't even get to the playoffs -- so this one was won thanks, in part, to cheating.
Welker is poorly coached, and so is Hernandez. Your point is taken, thank you.
Well it wasn't Raheem Morris throwing all of those picks for the Bucs but you see where that got him. Coaches are responsible for the play of their players. If you start making excuses for BB then you have to do it for every head coach in the league.BB is a great coach that has had wonderful successes but also had some down seasons with Cleveland and he has had dominating teams with New England that have underachieved. He is also a known cheat.
Yes out of all that I had written, that was what you take away in a throw away line at the end.I would of paid millions to watch your head almost exploded when you came back to this thread after having your giggles of the cheating argument to see Giants rolling around faking injuries.I bet another million you forgot about that while making your "Coughlin can do it without cheating" argument.Check Mate.
This is one thing they should crack down on a little more. I think they should extend the time that an "injured" player needs to stay on the sidelines once he goes out. Maybe 5 plays, the rest of the series? After all, the league is all about the health of the players and all...You cannot be serious.You don't know that a player wasn't injured.. How could you possibly prove that? The NFL hasn't said they were cheating, they make and enforce the rules.. But somehow you know better..Nice try.. Maybe you can post the link 6 more times and it'll make your assertion true.. If they cheated, and it was proven by the NFL, your only proof wouldn't be a youtube video..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY26rgd4apsI think that covers every post of yours which states Coughlin does it without cheating.
I agree with all of this except the bolded. Certainly Coughlin deserves his due as a coach. But he's not at BB's level yet. And he may get there. But since you are the OP, I have to ask, how does Coughlin slip from being > BB to just being the measure of BB?
Losing seems to have brought out the best in you.. lolNFL makes and enforces the rules.. NFL says BB and the pats cheated.. Show me where they say the same about the Giants..
True but I don't remember seeing a lot of people picking the Giants to win the NFC back in August. They were generally considered a middle-of-the-pack team.
There are probably 28 teams that would trade their Wrs for the Giants, 25 or so that would trade their QB for Eli, and 31 that would love to have their DL.
Heard of the term "Any given sunday?"also the Coughlin remark of him not catching passes was to say every game this close has issues where it is more than the coach.
The whole thread was intended to poke fun at the "Belichick is a Genius" folks. I knew that kind of title would get them fired up.ETA: I was a bit tipsy when I started it and in the glow of a Patriot SB loss.I agree with all of this except the bolded. Certainly Coughlin deserves his due as a coach. But he's not at BB's level yet. And he may get there. But since you are the OP, I have to ask, how does Coughlin slip from being > BB to just being the measure of BB?
Nope, no fan of either team. I have no horse in this race, but you do. Actually lost out on some chedder because of the Pats.But my point is you are bias, you are a typical Patriots hater on this site trolling to hate in my opinion. I come to this site to see opinion and thoughts. But yours stood out as it was an opinion but obviously bias. So I posted a video of obvious cheating.If you say the Pats cheated but can watch this video and say the Giants didn't, then you have bias or are blind.Gotta get back to work before I get behind, see ya CHustler.Take your crow and grill it up, its tasty.
So when you say he's bias, is that a metaphorical thing? Or like a literal, "Greek God of Bias" type thing?
How can you credit him for them playing well in the playoffs but not blaming him equally for their ineptitude during the season?Seams to me you have to blame/credit him for both or neither equally.
Coughlin's ready to play players fumbled the ball three times, with no consequences. They had a number of costly penalties as well. Oh, and they used two time outs to avoid delay of game penalties, which could have really bitten them in the ### if one or two plays in the game go differently.
I am a Rams fan and we finished 2-14. Welcome to the list of teams that didn't win a Super Bowl this year, those of us that follow horrible teams don't feel quite as bitter the day after a Super Bowl because our team has been done for 5 weeks by then.Sorry for your loss, I am sure the continued success of the Red Sox, Celtics, and Bruins will make up for it.
What was the final score again?'parrot said:Coughlin's ready to play players fumbled the ball three times, with no consequences. They had a number of costly penalties as well. Oh, and they used two time outs to avoid delay of game penalties, which could have really bitten them in the ### if one or two plays in the game go differently.'IvanKaramazov said:
Ah, the old "SCOREBOARD!" comeback. Good one. Clearly your flimsy contention is unassailable because the Giants won the game. My apologies.What was the final score again?'parrot said:Coughlin's ready to play players fumbled the ball three times, with no consequences. They had a number of costly penalties as well. Oh, and they used two time outs to avoid delay of game penalties, which could have really bitten them in the ### if one or two plays in the game go differently.'IvanKaramazov said:
Apology accepted.Ah, the old "SCOREBOARD!" comeback. Good one. Clearly your flimsy contention is unassailable because the Giants won the game. My apologies.What was the final score again?'parrot said:Coughlin's ready to play players fumbled the ball three times, with no consequences. They had a number of costly penalties as well. Oh, and they used two time outs to avoid delay of game penalties, which could have really bitten them in the ### if one or two plays in the game go differently.'IvanKaramazov said:
Maybe all that is because the media doesn't ride coughlin's shlong like they do "BB" and coughlin's support from ownership isn't as visible as for "BB." Seriously, though, lets be real. Both came from Big Blue. one was receivers coach and the other eventually became DC. Belichick flunked out in cleveland, which is cursed and Coughlin thrived in Jax, which was an expansion team. Moreover, Coughlin excels in NY, but has some down moments; whereas BB has consistently put a contender together for more than a decade. And considering how competitive the NFC east is and how crap the AFC east usually is; spy gate; and luck; "mad talent" isn't the only possible explanation. I think BB is one of the best of this decade because of his teams success, but i dont think for a second that coughlin is any less of a coach.'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Godsbrother said:
Hardly anybody I heard or talked to was picking this Pats last week.
The Pats were the favorites.'Godsbrother said:
When I was a kid the "but everyone does it" line never worked with my Dad when I was about to be punished.We have no idea if anyone else was doing it. What we DO know is that Belichick did it and that %^$# Goodell destroyed all of the evidence so we'll never know to what extent he was breaking the rules.
BB got out of it without suspension, and even got the evidence destroyed.. He's not a genius?
Any proof to substantiate this claim?
By Vegas. I didn't hear anybody that week pick them or say they had the better team.The Pats were the favorites.'Godsbrother said:
I have heard a lot of interviews with players/coaches stating that this stuff went on. I know it's easy to hate on Belichick, but they were not the only team doing things like this. They were the first one to be told on after the letter was sent out trying to crack down on it. Using cameras, trying to read lips, digging through the garbage trying to find plays after the visiting team left the box, etc, etc.. all teams try to get any leg up they can.
And how does Vegas set the line? Obviously a hell of a lot of people thought they were the better team.How many people did you hear saying the Giants would win the Super Bowl in week 15 when they were 7-7?
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