Could Randy Moss have caught that PI ball? (1 Viewer)

[Rovers]

The only reason this is an issue is because it was Moss. If it had been any other WR it would be pretty clear that he had his speed changed, his direction changed and he was off balance. The pass could've been 2 feet closer and it still would've been a difficult catch. Go into your back yard have your yard gnome defend you on a 40 yard pass play and try to replicate. See how easy it is.

We would not even be discussing it because any other WR would have caught it 9 out of 10 times, and Moss is the only WR that would give up on that ball. It would not have even been a very difficult catch. That ball was just floating down to him. He plays like that, then mouths off? I think he got cut not because he shot his mouth off, but because of this one play.

When Moss is not happy, this is the way he plays, always has.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

The only reason this is an issue is because it was Moss. If it had been any other WR it would be pretty clear that he had his speed changed, his direction changed and he was off balance. The pass could've been 2 feet closer and it still would've been a difficult catch. Go into your back yard have your yard gnome defend you on a 40 yard pass play and try to replicate. See how easy it is.

Bull! I could have made that catch but that would have been my goal all along. I've seen it done in HS many times.

Please tell me your combine numbers so I can adjust my rankings accordingly. Big difference between can and doing it as a routine play as so many are trying to make it sound. I bet I "could" make that catch too if you give me enough tries. My point is that because of his reputation it immediately becomes a bigger issue than it would with about 98% of all the other WR's out there.

That's because the other WR's out there would have tried to catch the ball.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Folks have to kidding or fishing here, right? That was a huge play in the game and I have never seen anything quite like it -- a guy completely giving up on a touchdown ball with nobody near him. I still can't believe the announcers said nothing. Some people here are saying it's getting attention only because it's Randy? WHAT? Actually, it's just the opposite I think. He's getting a pass because it's nothing new with the guy. Had Dez Bryant let a touchdown ball fall by his feet people would go nuts.

Has it been mentioned how Favre ended up getting knocked out of the game right after? Between that effort and Moss' post-game comments praising the Patriots, I don't see how you can keep the guy.

It's always funny to see/hear reports about him changing or that everybody loves him, or being the consummate professional, blah, blah, blah. Please.

 

[Katana]

21st nope here

After the Meriweather's PI, Randy took 4 steps completely off balance.

Then he took 3 steps after he got his balance back before the ball landed on the turf, meaning he would only have two steps to get to the football.

Considering he had to completely adjust to the ball position, turning and heading to the right, I dont think he had enough time/steps to do it.

That's why I think it was uncatchable. Props to Brandon.

I dont think Randy saw the ref's flag, btw



Flame on

 

[slayer666]

Undoubtedly.

 

[cvnpoka]

he lost sight of it when he was geting raped and by the time he found it again it was too late

Definitely possible, but, like the OP said, it sure looks like he was continuing to follow the path of the ball after he got tripped up. To me, it just looks like a typical Moss quit. I'm not saying it would be an easy catch, but someone with the talent Moss has should have at least tried, instead of settling for the PI.

huh? it looks nothing like a typical moss quit. ive never seen him quit on a ball right at him. sure, he runs 80% routes when he knows hes not getting the ball or on a running play. but to simply be too lazy to reach his hands out for a ball would be unprecedented.

 

[cvnpoka]

I honestly can't fathom anyone saying he had no chance to catch that ball. I can understand him diving for it and not coming up with it, it wasn't an easy catch considering he had lost his momentum on the PI, but it was so close to him and he didn't even make an attempt for it. And ESPN showed the replays 20 different ways and he never lost sight of the ball.

its quite a leap to assume this imo.

 

[Football Critic]

21st nope hereAfter the Meriweather's PI, Randy took 4 steps completely off balance. Then he took 3 steps after he got his balance back before the ball landed on the turf, meaning he would only have two steps to get to the football.Considering he had to completely adjust to the ball position, turning and heading to the right, I dont think he had enough time/steps to do it.That's why I think it was uncatchable. Props to Brandon. I dont think Randy saw the ref's flag, btw Flame on

Do you wear glasses?

 

[Cunk]

Try and recall the last time you ever saw Randy Moss give it up with his body and dive for a ball?

Or jump for one.I've been saying this since the end of 2008.

I thought it was just me who was seeing this. Or how about showing some muscle after the catch and not falling down like a toothpick.

 

[Phurfur]

The only reason this is an issue is because it was Moss. If it had been any other WR it would be pretty clear that he had his speed changed, his direction changed and he was off balance. The pass could've been 2 feet closer and it still would've been a difficult catch. Go into your back yard have your yard gnome defend you on a 40 yard pass play and try to replicate. See how easy it is.

Bull! I could have made that catch but that would have been my goal all along. I've seen it done in HS many times.

Please tell me your combine numbers so I can adjust my rankings accordingly. Big difference between can and doing it as a routine play as so many are trying to make it sound. I bet I "could" make that catch too if you give me enough tries.

You misunderstood me; I could make that catch in one try. I have made tougher.

 

[NinerFan49]

21st nope hereAfter the Meriweather's PI, Randy took 4 steps completely off balance. Then he took 3 steps after he got his balance back before the ball landed on the turf, meaning he would only have two steps to get to the football.Considering he had to completely adjust to the ball position, turning and heading to the right, I dont think he had enough time/steps to do it.That's why I think it was uncatchable. Props to Brandon. I dont think Randy saw the ref's flag, btw Flame on

since the ball appeared to land no more than yard from him, it's hard to believe he had NO chance to make the catch... if he had tried to leap for it. maybe he still wouldn't have caught it... but is it too much to ask that he make that effort?

 

[Rovers]

I knew a guy that trusted CBS news radio so much, he thought that they would NEVER allow shady companies or fake hair growth commercials to air on their radio station. I think this guy would have a lot in common with anyone who thinks Moss had no chance to catch that pass. Some people are just flat out clueless. They listen to a higher power.... Neighborhood dogs speak to them. Funny how it's never a cat. Many may have brain injuries. Some were just born that way. My guess is half of them are just At least I hope so.

The next thing I expect to read in this forum from some of our "special" posters is how J Russell will make the Redskins a better team.

 

[cvnpoka]

right bc thinking he lost track of it after getting slammed by a db is far more delusional than thinking a wr in a contract year simply decided not to catch a ball right to him out of laziness (i guess) after running a great route, torching the db, and absorbing a hit.

 

[NinerFan49]

right bc thinking he lost track of it after getting slammed by a db is far more delusional than thinking a wr in a contract year simply decided not to catch a ball right to him out of laziness (i guess) after running a great route, torching the db, and absorbing a hit.

How far from him would you say that ball landed?

 

[bonesman]

I get why people are bent out of shape on the play. It seems like it should be an easy catch. But after watching it a bunch of times, I'm not sure it is. Seems like Moss was just recovering his balance when the ball hit the ground. I see him looking up for the ball the whole way, but it doesn't really seem like he's tracking it.

The way it seems to me is that he got knocked pretty good off his route, had to struggle to keep his balance and lost sight of the ball. He was looking up for it but didn't find it until it was basically hitting the ground.

Plus, it doesn't really make sense to me that a glory hog like Moss would actually *want* to let a TD get away. He loves being the hero and making himself look good and he feels like being a TD machine justifies him taking other plays off. It kinda doesn't make sense that he would purposefully let a long TD get away.

Either way, the list of crap Moss has done wrong is really long. I'd think that this instance, given the real possibility that he might have simply lost the ball in flight as he was hit, would put it pretty far down on the list of things that he has done to get upset over.

That's what I'm seeing too.I think it's a catchable ball... but he didn't spot it in time to react to it and make a play. Possibly a mental mistake that a more fiery and determined player makes... but I think the vast majority of us armchair athletes commenting on it would've been lucky to stay on our feet

 

[bonesman]

right bc thinking he lost track of it after getting slammed by a db is far more delusional than thinking a wr in a contract year simply decided not to catch a ball right to him out of laziness (i guess) after running a great route, torching the db, and absorbing a hit.

Yea, I love a good conspiracy but I gotta defer to Occam's razor on this one.

 

[SWC]

I still think he was just so caught up in being disrespected by the pass interference and putting a whoa is me look how much i get dissed that it never even crossed his mind that he would be able to catch the ball and when he finally thoguht about it and his brain said OH MAN it was too late.

Just more Randy being randy and hurting his legacy and team int he process. They interviewed the restuarant guy he went crazy on and I thought the guy was gonig to cry at one point... he really hurts a lot of people and i hope that some day he can reflect back and realize he just hasn't been a very good person.

 

[Sudsy]

Being somewhat familiar with Randy Moss I am aware that he has arms with hands on the ends, and that the arms are capable of being extended outward and somewhat to the side. His arms are over two feet long. He does not have flippers like some Thalidomide baby. He could have extended those perfectly good appendages and have grasped that object. I've seen him do so multiple times in the past so I know it is possible.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Had taped the game and I watched the replay over and over again last night. Moss is interfered with at around the 17yd line, gets hit bad enough that he is almost turned around, stumbles, almost falls down, does not completely regain his footing until about the 5 and a fraction of a sec later the ball lands at the goal line.

Those who claim he never lost site of the ball really have no way of knowing that; between the 5-10 yd lines you can see his head jostle big time up and down as he is trying to track the ball and keep from falling at the same time. His head comes back up looking for the ball (around the 7 or 8yd line). I don't see how anyone can claim definitively that Moss never lost sight of the ball; how the heck could anyone possibly know for sure?

I have seen plenty of instances during his time in NE where I and others have said, if only Moss slowed down and or went up for the ball he could have had it. We don't really think he was purposely not really trying to catch the ball, but the thought crossed our minds on more than 1 occasion. But there is really only 2 ways of looking at it, #1 he doesn't really want to catch the ball or #2 it is a lot harder to do than it looks on TV. Given that there is little (any?) incentive or motivation for Moss not to try and make the catch, the most logical and much simpler answer is #2.

Could he have possibly caught the ball? Yes (IF he never lost site of it AND could have reacted, moved and reached to the ball in that last fraction of a second).

Might he have made a concious decision not to catch the ball? Anything is possible, but is it likely? Not really.

If it wasn't Moss it wouldn't even be discussed.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

By now, I've heard enough players and coaches allude to that play to be sure that he could've caught it. They joke about it, in disgust.

 

[Das Boot]

Had taped the game and I watched the replay over and over again last night. Moss is interfered with at around the 17yd line, gets hit bad enough that he is almost turned around, stumbles, almost falls down, does not completely regain his footing until about the 5 and a fraction of a sec later the ball lands at the goal line.

Those who claim he never lost site of the ball really have no way of knowing that; between the 5-10 yd lines you can see his head jostle big time up and down as he is trying to track the ball and keep from falling at the same time. His head comes back up looking for the ball (around the 7 or 8yd line). I don't see how anyone can claim definitively that Moss never lost sight of the ball; how the heck could anyone possibly know for sure?

I have seen plenty of instances during his time in NE where I and others have said, if only Moss slowed down and or went up for the ball he could have had it. We don't really think he was purposely not really trying to catch the ball, but the thought crossed our minds on more than 1 occasion. But there is really only 2 ways of looking at it, #1 he doesn't really want to catch the ball or #2 it is a lot harder to do than it looks on TV. Given that there is little (any?) incentive or motivation for Moss not to try and make the catch, the most logical and much simpler answer is #2.

Could he have possibly caught the ball? Yes (IF he never lost site of it AND could have reacted, moved and reached to the ball in that last fraction of a second).

Might he have made a concious decision not to catch the ball? Anything is possible, but is it likely? Not really.

If it wasn't Moss it wouldn't even be discussed.

Had he made any effort to catch the ball - any effort what-so-ever, he might get some benefit of the doubt, even with his well known history.As is, he's lucky the ball wasn't a couple of feet closer and didn't clang off his ten cent head - that would have been a clip for the ages.