Could the Dolphins draft Spiller in Round 1? (1 Viewer)

[UW72]

Could this happen on draft day?

With Ginn the Dolphins parted ways with their best returner, Ronnie Brown is injury prone and still not recovered from last years lisfranc fracture and Ricky Williams doesn't become any younger. I am not sold on Hilliard or Cobbs.

I am well aware that the Dolphins have big needs at DT and LB, but would it be possible?

 

[GoodellFTL]

It's a possibility, but I don't see them taking him over McClain or Dan Williams.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I really believe that it's almost a lock the Dolphins trade down (maybe several times). Parcells loves to do it, the Fins don't have a 2nd round pick, and the guys that would make the most sense for them (Berry, McClain, Williams) could all be gone and the next best guys at those positions aren't worth a pick that high.

 

[cdwood]

It could happen, but I don't think Spiller is going to be available at #12. I think there are a few teams in front of Miami that could potentially draft Spiller. Over the past week I've seen a few mock drafts that have Spiller going to Seattle at #6, I've seen Cleveland taking him at #7, I've seen Buffalo taking him at #9, I've seen a couple of mocks with Jacksonville taking him at #10. The most recent thing I've heard, and this comes from an interview of someone in the Jags scouting department on the most recent edition of Jaguars This Week podcast, the Jags will select BPA and if Spiller is the best player on their board, they'll draft him.

 

[Donnybrook]

CJ Spiller could be a more explosive version of Patrick Cobbs in the Miami offense. I think they could pick him. (Chad Henne's draft stock would go through the roof.)

 

[Bankerguy]

I really believe that it's almost a lock the Dolphins trade down (maybe several times). Parcells loves to do it, the Fins don't have a 2nd round pick, and the guys that would make the most sense for them (Berry, McClain, Williams) could all be gone and the next best guys at those positions aren't worth a pick that high.

I think Dallas takes a run at this pick depending on the price.

 

[az_prof]

I think they need more help on defense so I doubt they would use the first on Spiller. I could see them taking a guy like Joe McKnight in the third though and use him on return duties and as a change of pace guy.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

CJ Spiller could be a more explosive version of Patrick Cobbs in the Miami offense. I think they could pick him. (Chad Henne's draft stock would go through the roof.)

High praise indeed.

 

[Blackjacks]

I really believe that it's almost a lock the Dolphins trade down (maybe several times). Parcells loves to do it, the Fins don't have a 2nd round pick, and the guys that would make the most sense for them (Berry, McClain, Williams) could all be gone and the next best guys at those positions aren't worth a pick that high.

I think Dallas takes a run at this pick depending on the price.

Sorry to hijack but who would Dallas trade up that high for in your opinion (Dez Bryant? or an olineman?)

 

[Bankerguy]

I really believe that it's almost a lock the Dolphins trade down (maybe several times). Parcells loves to do it, the Fins don't have a 2nd round pick, and the guys that would make the most sense for them (Berry, McClain, Williams) could all be gone and the next best guys at those positions aren't worth a pick that high.

I think Dallas takes a run at this pick depending on the price.

Sorry to hijack but who would Dallas trade up that high for in your opinion (Dez Bryant? or an olineman?)

*IF* it went down it would be for Earl Thomas imo.

 

[Blackjacks]

I really believe that it's almost a lock the Dolphins trade down (maybe several times). Parcells loves to do it, the Fins don't have a 2nd round pick, and the guys that would make the most sense for them (Berry, McClain, Williams) could all be gone and the next best guys at those positions aren't worth a pick that high.

I think Dallas takes a run at this pick depending on the price.

Sorry to hijack but who would Dallas trade up that high for in your opinion (Dez Bryant? or an olineman?)

*IF* it went down it would be for Earl Thomas imo.

Yeah, that would make sense alsoI could see Dez or Trent Williams even though I don't see Willliams being there.

 

[Donnybrook]

CJ Spiller could be a more explosive version of Patrick Cobbs in the Miami offense. I think they could pick him. (Chad Henne's draft stock would go through the roof.)

High praise indeed.

In 2008, Cobbs did average 7.3 yards per rushing attempt and 14.5 yards per pass. I will admit that many of those plays were trick plays (wild cat and reverses etc) Obviously, they would use Spiller a lot more often in the traditional role as well as plays that were designed for Cobbs.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

CJ Spiller could be a more explosive version of Patrick Cobbs in the Miami offense. I think they could pick him. (Chad Henne's draft stock would go through the roof.)

High praise indeed.

In 2008, Cobbs did average 7.3 yards per rushing attempt and 14.5 yards per pass. I will admit that many of those plays were trick plays (wild cat and reverses etc) Obviously, they would use Spiller a lot more often in the traditional role as well as plays that were designed for Cobbs.

Hopefully, since Cobbs only carried the ball 12 times that year and had 19 receptions. It's a strange comparison - I'm guessing Spiller owners would hope for something north of 31 touches this season.

 

[Bankerguy]

I really believe that it's almost a lock the Dolphins trade down (maybe several times). Parcells loves to do it, the Fins don't have a 2nd round pick, and the guys that would make the most sense for them (Berry, McClain, Williams) could all be gone and the next best guys at those positions aren't worth a pick that high.

I think Dallas takes a run at this pick depending on the price.

Sorry to hijack but who would Dallas trade up that high for in your opinion (Dez Bryant? or an olineman?)

*IF* it went down it would be for Earl Thomas imo.

Yeah, that would make sense alsoI could see Dez or Trent Williams even though I don't see Willliams being there.

I don't think Dallas trding for Dez in out of the question. However, I don't think it would be that early. If Dallas moves to 12 it's for Thomas or McClain. I don't think a first round OT is coing to Dallas.ETA-Sorry for the hijack.

 

[runner06]

Considering it has been reported that they are trying to trade Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams will turn 33 this season, I'd say if it's a definite possibility and one of the more likely destinations for Spiller.

 

[Spuds_McKenzie]

UNLESS he's drafted by Buffalo, CJ Spiller is the ROY.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

UNLESS he's drafted by Buffalo, CJ Spiller is the ROY.

Lol...the love for this kid b/c he is fast is unreal. He is not Chris Johnson....not even close.

 

[Buckna]

Certainly possible. I'd think it would be more likely if they could ever find a trade partner to take Ronnie off their hands for a mid-level pick. However, considering there have been rumors for years of him always being available and no one has stepped up the plate I would think they would be better off rolling with Ricky + Ronnie this year and drafting someone new next year when they have more picks. Or trading down this year to add more picks and maybe using one of those on a RB, not neccessarily their 1st.

 

[golfguy]

UNLESS he's drafted by Buffalo, CJ Spiller is the ROY.

Lol...the love for this kid b/c he is fast is unreal. He is not Chris Johnson....not even close.

well neither was chris johnson really "chris johnson" 2 years ago. look where he went in the NFL draft, and then fantasy drafts as well.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

UNLESS he's drafted by Buffalo, CJ Spiller is the ROY.

Lol...the love for this kid b/c he is fast is unreal. He is not Chris Johnson....not even close.

Chris Johnson wasn't Chris Johnson four days before he was drafted either. And one doesn't have to be Chris Johnson to be ROY.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

UNLESS he's drafted by Buffalo, CJ Spiller is the ROY.

Lol...the love for this kid b/c he is fast is unreal. He is not Chris Johnson....not even close.

well neither was chris johnson really "chris johnson" 2 years ago. look where he went in the NFL draft, and then fantasy drafts as well.

Projecting Spilller to be the ROY if he isn't drafted by all but one team is hype.

Chris Johnson showed way more as a RB in college than Spiller.

CJ3 college highlights-

-Look at the 1:00 mark play....when Spiller does that, then I might believe the hype or comparison.

Spiller- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxkNT9IxEu8

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think Spiller could be TNT in Miami but I also feel Miami is more than ready to trade down in this draft. I could see them trading down once or twice and coming back with Cam Thomas from UNC, I've been beating his drum now for a couple weeks. He is perfect for the 3-4, he's a monster at 325+ and he was tearing up the ACC, got to watch him wreck havoc on Miami a couple times.

He can be had in the 2nd although a lot of teams are getting wise to him and he's been creeping up in many mock drafts. If they traded down and could get a couple 2nds, I wouldn't mind if they passed on Spiller and grabbed Best a little later if he's on the board. McClutcheon also later but Miami needs some speed out of that backfield. I have a thread I wrote a year ago that Brown/Williams were not going to be the future in Miami, I really don't see this team ponying up for an extension on Ronnie Brown.

 

[Native]

I think Spiller could be TNT in Miami but I also feel Miami is more than ready to trade down in this draft. I could see them trading down once or twice and coming back with Cam Thomas from UNC, I've been beating his drum now for a couple weeks. He is perfect for the 3-4, he's a monster at 325+ and he was tearing up the ACC, got to watch him wreck havoc on Miami a couple times. He can be had in the 2nd although a lot of teams are getting wise to him and he's been creeping up in many mock drafts. If they traded down and could get a couple 2nds, I wouldn't mind if they passed on Spiller and grabbed Best a little later if he's on the board. McClutcheon also later but Miami needs some speed out of that backfield. I have a thread I wrote a year ago that Brown/Williams were not going to be the future in Miami, I really don't see this team ponying up for an extension on Ronnie Brown.

Id much rather have Jeff Owens at NT, he is more agile than Thomas but just as strong. As for Spiller, that would certainly make our offense difficult to stop, although Id be shocked if we go anything other than LB in round one.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think Spiller could be TNT in Miami but I also feel Miami is more than ready to trade down in this draft. I could see them trading down once or twice and coming back with Cam Thomas from UNC, I've been beating his drum now for a couple weeks. He is perfect for the 3-4, he's a monster at 325+ and he was tearing up the ACC, got to watch him wreck havoc on Miami a couple times. He can be had in the 2nd although a lot of teams are getting wise to him and he's been creeping up in many mock drafts. If they traded down and could get a couple 2nds, I wouldn't mind if they passed on Spiller and grabbed Best a little later if he's on the board. McClutcheon also later but Miami needs some speed out of that backfield. I have a thread I wrote a year ago that Brown/Williams were not going to be the future in Miami, I really don't see this team ponying up for an extension on Ronnie Brown.

Id much rather have Jeff Owens at NT, he is more agile than Thomas but just as strong. As for Spiller, that would certainly make our offense difficult to stop, although Id be shocked if we go anything other than LB in round one.

I would support Spiller at 12 because I feel the offense would be very very strong and for the first time in I can't remember the offense will take pressure off the defense. New Orleans did not have a great defense last year. And that offense allowed them to take a lot mroe risks as well. The Dolphins are well coached and even as they are the defense is still pretty strong. The 2 ILB we have are gonna make their presence felt. Crowder was pretty good when Zach Thomas was in there, I expect him to get a lot better with Dansby inside. Our DBs will be in year 2. Will Allen could start and Sean Smith could rotate over to Safety with Yeremiah Bell...we don't have to grab a Safety as badly as some would make you believe. I think Miami has a lot of options...they have 4 picks in the 5th and 6th round, they can use those to possibly move up. Trade a 5th and a 6th for a 4th...this is a deep draft. The Marshall trade really opens up some options for the Phins, draft night is going to be very exciting.

 

[gianmarco]

UNLESS he's drafted by Buffalo, CJ Spiller is the ROY.

Lol...the love for this kid b/c he is fast is unreal. He is not Chris Johnson....not even close.

well neither was chris johnson really "chris johnson" 2 years ago. look where he went in the NFL draft, and then fantasy drafts as well.

Projecting Spilller to be the ROY if he isn't drafted by all but one team is hype.

Chris Johnson showed way more as a RB in college than Spiller.

CJ3 college highlights-

Just want to point out watching that Chris Johnson highlight film that he does a lot of "bouncing it to the outside" that was a knock on him back then and is a knock on Spiller now. The thing to keep in mind is that just because you see those guys taking it outside in college doesn't mean they CAN'T run inside. It doesn't mean they can either, just simply that it's premature to assume they run outside because they don't have the power to run inside. Johnson has proven that the last 2 years.

 

[gianmarco]

New Orleans did not have a great defense last year

 

[Ministry of Pain]

New Orleans did not have a great defense last year

26h in passing yds allowed, 21st in rushing yds allowed 28th in rushing Tds allowed, 26th in yds per attempt allowed. Not a LB on that team that I would truly want, where is this defense great? Seriously, please don't start a debate on this. Props out for the SB win, not trying to tear down the Saints but c'mon dude, look at your avatar.

 

[Tanner9919]

Could this happen on draft day?With Ginn the Dolphins parted ways with their best returner, Ronnie Brown is injury prone and still not recovered from last years lisfranc fracture and Ricky Williams doesn't become any younger. I am not sold on Hilliard or Cobbs.I am well aware that the Dolphins have big needs at DT and LB, but would it be possible?

I know Miami picks 12th, but I doubt they burn a high pick on a RB while they still have defensive needs..R. Brown is coming off ( another) injuury,but they still have Ricky Williams under contract for another season..he produced at a high level last year and shows no signs of wearing down..

 

[ConstruxBoy]

UNLESS he's drafted by Buffalo, CJ Spiller is the ROY.

Lol...the love for this kid b/c he is fast is unreal. He is not Chris Johnson....not even close.

well neither was chris johnson really "chris johnson" 2 years ago. look where he went in the NFL draft, and then fantasy drafts as well.

Projecting Spilller to be the ROY if he isn't drafted by all but one team is hype.

Chris Johnson showed way more as a RB in college than Spiller.

CJ3 college highlights-

Stop talking sense in here please. Just as with Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson, it's a risk if you don't see much inside running. Sometimes it works out, like Johnson, sometimes it doesn't, like Bush. I think that in retrospect the fact that Bush was almost always pulled for someone else in short yardage situations (White) should have been a better clue. Spiller was pulled when he was "backing up" James Davis, but wasn't really pulled for those situations last year. I'm guessing his effectiveness inside with be somewhere between Johnson and Bush. LOL, maybe we should start calling him Condom.

 

[a_rackowski]

52 Career Touchdowns. 21 of them were from 50 or more yards. Spiller is a top 10 talent for teams who lack playmakers.

Spiller wont make it to Miami.

No team lacks playmakers more than Cleveland. If the Browns dont go Dez in round 1 they will go Spiller. The worst offense in the league needs playmakers.

 

[=Smackdown=]

If reports saying Miami is trying to trade Brown to Detroit are accurate then I guess Spiller is an option but this teams needs more help on Defense IMO.

FS

OLB

 

[Liquid Tension]

If reports saying Miami is trying to trade Brown to Detroit are accurate then I guess Spiller is an option but this teams needs more help on Defense IMO.FSOLB

What are the rumors regarding Ronnie being traded?

 

[Reaper]

I would vote a HUGE NO.

The guy who proclaims RB's as interchangebale, with limited shelf life and a dime a dozen, the guy who loves to build a defense, doesn't spend his top pick on a RB in a draft loaded with Defensive gems...

:BettingtheHOUSE:

BTW - Anyone know how he feels about Marion Barber - I'd think that was more realistic if Ronnie is gone.

 

[Todem]

Phins are going LB or DT plain and simple...if their guy is there at 12 then they pull the trigger...if not....trades abound and who knows what is going to happen. This is the week that smoke screens ad nausem are being leaked out. If Spiller is there and a team really wants him...the Dolphins may take a nice offer to move down.

This should be a very exciting first round. And we have Brandon friggin Marshall!!! Still on a high about that.

 

[Lord of the Rings]

If reports saying Miami is trying to trade Brown to Detroit are accurate then I guess Spiller is an option but this teams needs more help on Defense IMO.FSOLB

I was thinking the other day that he would be absolutely awesome, and therefore unlikely, if Miami could package Ronnie Brown and their 1st round pick and whatever else was necessary to trade up with Detroit for the #2 pick. Then select N. Suh. Talking about an huge offseason: Dansby & Suh, and Marshall immediately shore up critical weaknesses. The rest of the draft they could focus on getting their Safety and another RB. Just dreaming.But as to the question. Ronnie Brown brings an important dimension to the Wildcat that's missing in the other backs on the roster (although Cobbs could do well). Would Spiller be able to fill that role, or would they have to abandon the Wildcat completely if they went in that direction?

 

[Liquid Tension]

Phins are going LB or DT plain and simple...if their guy is there at 12 then they pull the trigger...if not....trades abound and who knows what is going to happen. This is the week that smoke screens ad nausem are being leaked out. If Spiller is there and a team really wants him...the Dolphins may take a nice offer to move down.This should be a very exciting first round. And we have Brandon friggin Marshall!!! Still on a high about that.

Agreed about all you wrote, but I really dislike the Ginn trade. Got no value of a guy who at worst is a solid special teams player. I also feel his deep threat is more valuable than people think. Finally, while he did have some drops, he was not helped by having a #### armed QB in Pennington who simply couldn't reach him. The Dolphins made a mistake getting a 5th round for Ginn IMO.

 

[Desert_Power]

Not a chance.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Stop talking sense in here please. Just as with Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson, it's a risk if you don't see much inside running. Sometimes it works out, like Johnson, sometimes it doesn't, like Bush. I think that in retrospect the fact that Bush was almost always pulled for someone else in short yardage situations (White) should have been a better clue. Spiller was pulled when he was "backing up" James Davis, but wasn't really pulled for those situations last year. I'm guessing his effectiveness inside with be somewhere between Johnson and Bush. LOL, maybe we should start calling him Condom.

I agree he will probably be somewhere in between them....however I believe he is less agile than both of them....so his tackle breaking/making defenders miss will be a tier down IMO.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

52 Career Touchdowns. 21 of them were from 50 or more yards. Spiller is a top 10 talent for teams who lack playmakers.

Spiller wont make it to Miami.

No team lacks playmakers more than Cleveland. If the Browns dont go Dez in round 1 they will go Spiller. The worst offense in the league needs playmakers.

This has bugged me for quite some time.

9 of these are return(punt or kick) Td's....does this even matter for FF???

Breaking down the others by year:

09-1 run(66 yarder vs Wake), 4 receptions ( 63 yarder @ GT, 66 yarder vs Wake, 56 yarder @ Miami, 58 yarder vs Florida St)

08-1 reception(83 yarder vs Duke)

07-1 run(83 yarder @ Auburn) 1 reception(68 yarder vs Louisiana Monroe)

06-4 runs(80 yarder vs South Carolina, 52 yard run vs NCST, 50 yarder vs GT, 72 yarder vs Wake) 2 receptions(82 yarder vs BC, 50 yarder vs GT)

Color me more unimpressed by 6 career college td runs over 50 yards(4 of them freshman year as well).