Counterpoint, Russell Wilson. How does he compare to a Brady if Wilso (1 Viewer)

[mcintyre1]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

 

[Neofight]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

 

[Niles Standish]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

I'll disagree about the top guy post. Luck will probably be the top guy. That being said with that team around him Wilson is likely to end up with more than his current Super Bowl. So the First Ballot thing isn't so crazy. Not to mention it won't be that impressive of a bump in 15 years. Airman/Kelly/Moon were all first ballot guys. So it's not like you have to be the best of the best. And Wilson already has all the makings of a multi-Super Bowl guy which lower the hurdle.

If you bump and I'm still around to see it in 15 years and Wilson's in the discussion as best of the generation I'll give you credit though. That would be a good call.

 

[Phlash]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

I'll disagree about the top guy post. Luck will probably be the top guy. That being said with that team around him Wilson is likely to end up with more than his current Super Bowl. So the First Ballot thing isn't so crazy. Not to mention it won't be that impressive of a bump in 15 years. Airman/Kelly/Moon were all first ballot guys. So it's not like you have to be the best of the best. And Wilson already has all the makings of a multi-Super Bowl guy which lower the hurdle.

If you bump and I'm still around to see it in 15 years and Wilson's in the discussion as best of the generation I'll give you credit though. That would be a good call.

Luck vs Wilson is going to be the new Manning vs Brady. Calling it now.

The comparisons are uncanny. Russell Wilson is amazing as a QB but lets be honest, he isn't winning the Superbowl without a good defense. Until his receivers improve, he won't carry that team, just like Brady.

Luck is dominant in the regular season but he has to start looking better in the playoffs for me to give him a huge rating.

 

[Tau837]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

I'll disagree about the top guy post. Luck will probably be the top guy. That being said with that team around him Wilson is likely to end up with more than his current Super Bowl. So the First Ballot thing isn't so crazy. Not to mention it won't be that impressive of a bump in 15 years. Airman/Kelly/Moon were all first ballot guys. So it's not like you have to be the best of the best. And Wilson already has all the makings of a multi-Super Bowl guy which lower the hurdle.

If you bump and I'm still around to see it in 15 years and Wilson's in the discussion as best of the generation I'll give you credit though. That would be a good call.

Luck vs Wilson is going to be the new Manning vs Brady. Calling it now.

The comparisons are uncanny. Russell Wilson is amazing as a QB but lets be honest, he isn't winning the Superbowl without a good defense. Until his receivers improve, he won't carry that team, just like Brady.

Luck is dominant in the regular season but he has to start looking better in the playoffs for me to give him a huge rating.

 

[Niles Standish]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

4 of 5 agree fully and I the 5th agree with most of it. If hyperbole it seems like a pretty widespread idea. Maybe not the most impressive bump now.

 

[FUBAR]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

I'll disagree about the top guy post. Luck will probably be the top guy. That being said with that team around him Wilson is likely to end up with more than his current Super Bowl. So the First Ballot thing isn't so crazy. Not to mention it won't be that impressive of a bump in 15 years. Airman/Kelly/Moon were all first ballot guys. So it's not like you have to be the best of the best. And Wilson already has all the makings of a multi-Super Bowl guy which lower the hurdle.If you bump and I'm still around to see it in 15 years and Wilson's in the discussion as best of the generation I'll give you credit though. That would be a good call.

Luck vs Wilson is going to be the new Manning vs Brady. Calling it now.The comparisons are uncanny. Russell Wilson is amazing as a QB but lets be honest, he isn't winning the Superbowl without a good defense. Until his receivers improve, he won't carry that team, just like Brady.

Luck is dominant in the regular season but he has to start looking better in the playoffs for me to give him a huge rating.

My thought was Marino/Montana but the concept is the same.

I wrote it before but again, Luck, Peyton and Marino carried their team. Aikman, Wilson, Montana, and Brady benefited big time by theirs but still performed like they had to.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

In 55 career games Wilson has never had a victory where the opposition scored more than 24 points. He's 2-8 in games where the other team scored 24 points or more. His two victories came against 0-8 Tampa last year, 27-24 in overtime, and 0-8 Oakland this year, 30-24.

awesome post

Not really, the same type of moronic argument was offered in the Flacco thread (at least that thread had 17 points allowed as the gold standard, lol). We can grab arbitrary stats and facts from anywhere, let's look at some from Brady:

Brady's teams have scored 20, 32, 24, 17, and 14 in Super Bowls. Joe Montana's teams scored 26, 38, 20, 55 and won the MVP three times. Conclusion: Montana was better.

Tom Brady has only been a first team all pro twice, the same number as Rich Gannon. Conclusion: Rich Gannon is Brady's equal

Trent Dilfer has a 1.000 Super Bowl winning percentage. Conclusion: Dilfer was more efficient than Brady.

Brady was 3-10 in his first two years when the opponent scored more than 17 points. Conclusion: Brady lacked when his defense let him down. See I can do this too!

You're really not very good at this. Why'd you only go two years, and not the three years that would be apples to apples to Wilson at this point? Maybe because in his third year he won 4 games where the opposition scored 26 or more, or twice as many in that one season as Wilson has won in 3 years? This includes the SuperBowl where he prevailed in a 32-29 shootout with his defense surrendering 19 4th quarter points.

There's no saying Wilson can't win a game like that, or that he won't, maybe even in two weeks, but he hasn't really done it yet in his career. Even in a game like last week, where he played about as poorly as a professional QB can play, his defense never let him get down by more than two scores, and the special teams got them back to within shooting distance.

7-12 over his first three years, less than impressive.

 

[12punch]

7-12 over his first three years, less than impressive.

loool dat edit

 

[Doctor Detroit]

7-12 over his first three years, less than impressive.

loool dat edit

I know, but Joe Bryant wants me to keep it civil so I do so.

ETA: ...when possible

 

[mcintyre1]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

4 of 5 agree fully and I the 5th agree with most of it. If hyperbole it seems like a pretty widespread idea. Maybe not the most impressive bump now.

Yeah... I was expecting more disagreement

 

[Niles Standish]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

4 of 5 agree fully and I the 5th agree with most of it. If hyperbole it seems like a pretty widespread idea. Maybe not the most impressive bump now.

Yeah... I was expecting more disagreement

Put him down as the clear #1 all time. I bet that would turn into a good bump if correct.

 

[Neofight]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

4 of 5 agree fully and I the 5th agree with most of it. If hyperbole it seems like a pretty widespread idea. Maybe not the most impressive bump now.

Really? How many people back east are saying Russell Wilson is better than Luck and a lock for the Hall of Fame? I've been talking to my friends back East about this for a few years now and they still don't get it. East coast media is just as bad.

 

[Neofight]

Wilson will go down as the greatest QB of the current generation and a lock first round Hall of Famer. Posting now so I can bump this in 15 years.

This reads like hyperbole, but I totally agree.

I'll disagree about the top guy post. Luck will probably be the top guy. That being said with that team around him Wilson is likely to end up with more than his current Super Bowl. So the First Ballot thing isn't so crazy. Not to mention it won't be that impressive of a bump in 15 years. Airman/Kelly/Moon were all first ballot guys. So it's not like you have to be the best of the best. And Wilson already has all the makings of a multi-Super Bowl guy which lower the hurdle.

If you bump and I'm still around to see it in 15 years and Wilson's in the discussion as best of the generation I'll give you credit though. That would be a good call.

Luck vs Wilson is going to be the new Manning vs Brady. Calling it now.

The comparisons are uncanny. Russell Wilson is amazing as a QB but lets be honest, he isn't winning the Superbowl without a good defense. Until his receivers improve, he won't carry that team, just like Brady.

Luck is dominant in the regular season but he has to start looking better in the playoffs for me to give him a huge rating.

This is true of Peyton Manning as well, except he had the WR's and the D.