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so you're saying if the school decides to go in person and some parents don't want to send their kids in, they get no form of learning from the school? it really makes no difference to me as I'm all for sending my kids in provided the virus is under control. but there's going to be a pretty vocal minority that's not going to be pleased.
I find that in depressing times a fresh hair cut and a cold Busch Light cheers me up.I need to stop responding to this thread. I'm coming off as condescending and rigid to other viewpoints and that's not cool. This is obviously an extremely difficult position for all parents. I apologize for my tone. This whole situation just has me really irritable and angry at alot of humans right now.
i don't know your haircut routine, but it sounds like you got the Busch Lights covered.
I don't think that would ever happen. I think districts are going to try to provide alternatives, but I think those alternatives are going to be inferior to the "in school" experience and I think it will really strain district resources to try and do so...we haven't even brought up special needs students yet. That is a whole other animal to figure out in the remote learning environment.
The issues for at home learning start with the fact many do not even log on.Cjw_55106 said:
I undertstand part of LA's decision was the threat of striking teachers?timschochet said:
The Orange County thing is not quite that simple (source: I am in Orange County) - what happened was the Orange County Board of Education voted to endorse no restrictions, no masks, full return to school - quite frankly a lot of the meeting was a joke - 30 minutes for public comment and they decided to not read any of the public comments that they solicited. They received over 2500 written comments.
Just one school district, but we were given the choice to go fully online learning or fully in person. We have to tell them this week and commit to the decision for the first half of the school year. We are doing online, but I also appreciate that some kids need school open for many reasons that aren’t factors here for us. Besides feeling like the virus is still a big threat, I think it makes sense to not crowd the schools for parents/kids who don’t have the option of doing online.shadyridr said:
Thanks, that is helpful. May I ask what district you are in?
I can't imagine the districts are actually basing anything off of those results.
The update we got said the district was basing its decision on survey results which included 70% of responses favoring opening schools. You could see the bias in the district's decision, though, because they then said 21% were undecided, and 14% of the "undecided" were against any in-person instruction. Not sure how you paint an unequivocal no as "undecided."
The surveys/plans I've seen aren't "should we open schools or not?". They're asking if they need to do a mix of in person and remote learning, what sort of schedule would be preferred by parents (alternating dates, alternating weeks, etc). But they're also gauging interest because if they know that only half the kids are to be expected in schools if they're open, that is a huge difference in how they can actually come up with that plan
I'm in Orange Unified. I'll have one in elementary school, one in middle school (which is a charter school, so it appears they are slightly playing by their own rules a bit) and one in high school.
Of course I want my kid back in school full time, but also need it to be done safely for everyone involved. Whatever our district decides will directly affect us in many ways. My ex-wife works for the district that my kid goes too. She does have an underlying condition so even if they do open they may not allow her back. She got paid to stay home the last few months of last school year which made it easy for our kid to do virtual school. And my ex MIL is a lunch lady as well. Gives her something to do since she retired.
Or, maybe they realized full in-person was not feasible while keeping within health guidelines for social distancing/masks indoors.
Better not be. They better be ready to give back taxes if they can't figure this out. The spring was a joke
I forget the school district, but one official was on saying the guidelines may be 6 feet but with full classes everyday they have 18 inches. Most schools don't have the space to safely open with a normal schedule for everyone.Or, maybe they realized full in-person was not feasible while keeping within health guidelines for social distancing/masks indoors.
I think everyone wants to go back to school. But the issue is what constitutes safely going back to school in the midst of a pandemic.
They're certainly going to have to get creative. Using the cafeteria, gymnasium, library and other common spaces for classes should be a given. As long as the weather cooperates, classes outside should be considered.
In Miami, the surveys were important because they needed to know whether to expect specific schools to be above or below 75% capacity. If it's below, they have the capability of bringing students back full time. If above, they have to go to some sort of hybrid schedule in order to be able to maintain any semblance of social distancing.
Palm Beach will not be starting children back to class this Fall, that was rolled out today.
What happened in the spring caught everyone off guard.
Santa Ana Unified, one of the larger school districts in Orange County has opted to start the year fully remote - they are also delaying the start of the school year to early September to allow faculty ample time to prepare for full time online instruction. I've not seen the details yet on how they are doing this (teachers on site streaming classes, teachers from home, mandatory online class time, post assignments and have "office" hours, etc.) but as they are one of the larger in the county, it would not be a stretch to see many of the other districts follow their lead.
Good points. Ours also asked about masks.
i understand that. just know that parents like me who have worked through this whole thing while also watching our young kids are losing our minds. they are saying all the right things about the kids going back next month but we will see.
Yep. This is going to be at the very least one more wasted semester.
It belongs here. If you want schools to open they need money to do it. Seems pretty simple to me.
If you're going to try and state things as simply as you did, it invites people to explain all the BS and caveats that come with the Dems plan. That discussion does not belong here. Quit playing naive. You know this.
Sigh. I don’t want to discuss politics with you. I just want the schools to have money to make these changes. The only proposal I’ve seen to make that happen comes from the Democrats. If you don’t like that let’s find another way to get it done. But we’re running out of time.
Imagine being a teacher who also has young kids at home. It's not like they're unaware of how challenging this whole situation is.
I don't care whose idea it is to fund education, I'd like it to be done too. And without ramming through pet projects or throwing in unrelated legislation that only serves agendas. If you want to discuss the "Why" of how come it's not happening, you have to take it elsewhere.
Yep - I just don't see how this will work out. I've yet to get good answers to things like:
Wouldn't the answers to these be the same as to the answers for a child or teacher getting the flu?
Despite my questions above, this is actually why I'm considering letting them go for now. We have only have 1,828 confirmed cases and 48 deaths from our county (population around 250k). I just hope if things start ramping up too much they are smart and close quickly.
