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Foles made some nice adjustments at the line in the beginning. He's allowed some mistakes and he made some ugly ones today - we need him to start next week. The season's over and we need to see if he can be a player in this league or use a 1st on a Qb.
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If Foles is going to be anything in this league, I'd like to see him shake out his rookie cobwebs this season. He's done some good things, done some bad things. I hope Vick is declared out early enough for Foles to take all the reps in practice and see what he can do next week against the Skins.
Did anyone watch Foles week 3 of pre season? That is a key week to watch. That is where you land your Foles, Morris RB Was, Cruz WR NYG, and others. That is the only reason I drafted Foles and Morris in rookie dynasty drafts. And got Cruz in the past. I know this isn't ground breaking info, but man week 3 is the week to watch every single pre season game. Anyone notice this?
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.

Reid has to go.

 
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The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
The Eagles are undefeated in franchise history when they run the "victory" kneel-down play in the second half. Reid should call that play and that play only for every snap of the last 30 minutes and he'd be like 160-0.
 
Can Reid be fired in the middle of the season? Would fans think that is a wise move right now?
He might get fired in the middle of a game
Sad when a team quits on you. Take a year off Andy and come back.The guy can coach.
Last 8 years proves otherwise. I don't know if he can anymore.
Would you agree a change of scenery might do him some good. He has some successful years. He is a sharp guy imo.
 
Can Reid be fired in the middle of the season? Would fans think that is a wise move right now?
He might get fired in the middle of a game
Sad when a team quits on you. Take a year off Andy and come back.The guy can coach.
Last 8 years proves otherwise. I don't know if he can anymore.
If Reid was evaluated strictly on the last 8 years he'd be viewed as very average. 8 years is more than half his tenure, and the NFL was different league back when he was an elite coach. Oh, and I'd guess Jim Johnson was responsible for more than we were aware of.
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
The Eagles are undefeated in franchise history when they run the "victory" kneel-down play in the second half. Reid should call that play and that play only for every snap of the last 30 minutes and he'd be like 160-0.
Reid is also undefeated in games where his team scores more point than the other team. Something to chew on.
 
Cancer Reid be fired in the middle of the season? Would fans think that is a wise move right now?
He might get fired in the middle of a game
Sad when a team quits on you. Take a year off Andy and come back.The guy can coach.
That's funny. So who are we rooting for? Kelly? Gruden? Other?
What is funny? You disagree about his coaching ability?
Yes. He has shown over the past few years that he isn't a good coach and an even worse evaluater of talent.He had good years in Philly but that was long ago. He had lots of chances to do better and he hasn't. He needs to go. Plain and simple.

 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
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The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
:goodposting:
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
:goodposting:
i've seen every snap as well. do they use him enough? no. but 20 is an arbitrary number.you know the other stat everyone likes to throw around - vick's record when he throws 40 or more passes in a game? it's really bad but i can't remember it right now. you know what tony romo's record is when he throws 40 or more passes? 1-13. so, yeah, you can pick out certain numbers and they're going to be indicative of gameflow and situations.
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
:goodposting:
i've seen every snap as well. do they use him enough? no. but 20 is an arbitrary number.you know the other stat everyone likes to throw around - vick's record when he throws 40 or more passes in a game? it's really bad but i can't remember it right now. you know what tony romo's record is when he throws 40 or more passes? 1-13. so, yeah, you can pick out certain numbers and they're going to be indicative of gameflow and situations.
Well I'm glad you agree with me.
 
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The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
:goodposting:
i've seen every snap as well. do they use him enough? no. but 20 is an arbitrary number.you know the other stat everyone likes to throw around - vick's record when he throws 40 or more passes in a game? it's really bad but i can't remember it right now. you know what tony romo's record is when he throws 40 or more passes? 1-13. so, yeah, you can pick out certain numbers and they're going to be indicative of gameflow and situations.
20 is an arbitrary number yes but the idea is that if the Eagles gameplanned to run Mccoy more in the first half, it would takes its toll on the defenses they play as it did against Balt and NYG earlier in the year. More run game early on and throughout leads to an Eagles victory is the message to take away from this stat.
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
:goodposting:
i've seen every snap as well. do they use him enough? no. but 20 is an arbitrary number.you know the other stat everyone likes to throw around - vick's record when he throws 40 or more passes in a game? it's really bad but i can't remember it right now. you know what tony romo's record is when he throws 40 or more passes? 1-13. so, yeah, you can pick out certain numbers and they're going to be indicative of gameflow and situations.
20 is an arbitrary number yes but the idea is that if the Eagles gameplanned to run Mccoy more in the first half, it would takes its toll on the defenses they play as it did against Balt and NYG earlier in the year. More run game early on and throughout leads to an Eagles victory is the message to take away from this stat.
Absolutely not true.AR doesn't use McCoy enough...but we aren't 3-0 in those games because McCoy ran it...McCoy ran it because we were winning.
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
:goodposting:
i've seen every snap as well. do they use him enough? no. but 20 is an arbitrary number.you know the other stat everyone likes to throw around - vick's record when he throws 40 or more passes in a game? it's really bad but i can't remember it right now. you know what tony romo's record is when he throws 40 or more passes? 1-13. so, yeah, you can pick out certain numbers and they're going to be indicative of gameflow and situations.
20 is an arbitrary number yes but the idea is that if the Eagles gameplanned to run Mccoy more in the first half, it would takes its toll on the defenses they play as it did against Balt and NYG earlier in the year. More run game early on and throughout leads to an Eagles victory is the message to take away from this stat.
Absolutely not true.AR doesn't use McCoy enough...but we aren't 3-0 in those games because McCoy ran it...McCoy ran it because we were winning.
And you're absolutely wrong. Again, I watched every single snap but here's a breakdown of Game 1 in which McCoy ended up with 20 carries:
4th Quarter:PHI 10 CLE 16 Cleveland Browns at 13:59P.Dawson kicks 65 yards from CLV 35 to end zone, Touchback.Philadelphia Eagles at 13:591-10-PHI20 (13:59) L.McCoy right tackle to PHI 35 for 15 yards (T.Ward).1-10-PHI35 (13:24) L.McCoy right tackle ran ob at PHI 40 for 5 yards (K.Maiava).2-5-PHI40 (13:03) L.McCoy left tackle to PHI 47 for 7 yards (T.Ward).1-10-PHI47 (12:25) B.Brown right guard to CLV 49 for 4 yards (F.Rucker; C.Robertson).2-6-CLE49 (11:50) M.Vick pass incomplete short right to J.Maclin (B.Skrine).3-6-CLE49 (11:46) (Shotgun) M.Vick pass short left to J.Avant to CLV 41 for 8 yards (J.Haden).1-10-CLE41 (11:09) L.McCoy right tackle to CLV 28 for 13 yards (E.Stephens).1-10-CLE28 (10:27) (Shotgun) M.Vick pass short left to L.McCoy to CLV 29 for -1 yards (I.Kitchen).2-11-CLE29 (9:51) L.McCoy right tackle to CLV 27 for 2 yards (E.Stephens).3-9-CLE27 (9:13) M.Vick pass incomplete deep right to D.Jackson.4-9-CLE27 (9:04) A.Henery 45 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Left, Center-J.Dorenbos, Holder-C.Henry.
Philadelphia Eagles at 06:251-10-PHI9 (6:25) (Shotgun) M.Vick pass incomplete deep left to B.Celek.2-10-PHI9 (6:20) (Shotgun) M.Vick pass short middle to J.Avant to PHI 17 for 8 yards (D.Patterson).3-2-PHI17 (5:56) (No Huddle) M.Vick pass short left to J.Avant to PHI 23 for 6 yards (C.Robertson).1-10-PHI23 (5:27) (No Huddle) L.McCoy right guard to PHI 26 for 3 yards (J.Sheard).2-7-PHI26 (4:58) (No Huddle, Shotgun) M.Vick pass incomplete deep left to J.Maclin. PENALTY on CLV-A.Rubin, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at PHI 26 - No Play. Penalty on CLV-B.Skrine, Defensive Holding, declined.1-10-PHI41 (4:50) (Shotgun) M.Vick pass short left to D.Jackson to 50 for 9 yards.2-1-50 (4:23) (No Huddle) L.McCoy left tackle to CLV 43 for 7 yards (T.Ward).1-10-CLE43 (3:56) (No Huddle, Shotgun) M.Vick pass short left to J.Maclin to CLV 32 for 11 yards (B.Skrine).1-10-CLE32 (3:24) (No Huddle, Shotgun) M.Vick pass incomplete deep right to D.Jackson.2-10-CLE32 (3:18) (Shotgun) M.Vick pass incomplete short middle to J.Avant (E.Hagg).3-10-CLE32 (3:14) (Shotgun) M.Vick scrambles left end to CLV 23 for 9 yards (A.Rubin). FUMBLES (A.Rubin), and recovers at CLV 23. M.Vick to CLV 23 for no gain (A.Rubin).4-1-CLE23 (2:50) L.McCoy right tackle to CLV 20 for 3 yards (K.Maiava).1-10-CLE20 (2:17) M.Vick pass incomplete deep middle to J.Maclin [A.Rubin].2-10-CLE20 (2:12) M.Vick pass short right to B.Celek to CLV 3 for 17 yards (T.Ward).1-3-CLE3 (2:00) B.Brown right guard to CLV 4 for -1 yards (D.Jackson).2-4-CLE4 (1:29) M.Vick pass incomplete short right to J.Maclin (L.Fort).3-4-CLE4 (1:23) (Shotgun) M.Vick pass short right to C.Harbor for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
So in the 4th quarter with the Eagles DOWN 16-10, McCoy only then got 8, count them, 8 of his 20 total carries. Both those drives led to a FG attempt and a TD.I'll tell you the same can be said for every game they've played this year. McCoy has been grossly misused.
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
:goodposting:
i've seen every snap as well. do they use him enough? no. but 20 is an arbitrary number.you know the other stat everyone likes to throw around - vick's record when he throws 40 or more passes in a game? it's really bad but i can't remember it right now. you know what tony romo's record is when he throws 40 or more passes? 1-13. so, yeah, you can pick out certain numbers and they're going to be indicative of gameflow and situations.
20 is an arbitrary number yes but the idea is that if the Eagles gameplanned to run Mccoy more in the first half, it would takes its toll on the defenses they play as it did against Balt and NYG earlier in the year. More run game early on and throughout leads to an Eagles victory is the message to take away from this stat.
Absolutely not true.AR doesn't use McCoy enough...but we aren't 3-0 in those games because McCoy ran it...McCoy ran it because we were winning.
I don't have all the numbers but for the Cleveland game I'm pretty sure when we were winning (mainly the 3rd quarter) McCoy didn't have a single carry.
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
:goodposting:
i've seen every snap as well. do they use him enough? no. but 20 is an arbitrary number.you know the other stat everyone likes to throw around - vick's record when he throws 40 or more passes in a game? it's really bad but i can't remember it right now. you know what tony romo's record is when he throws 40 or more passes? 1-13. so, yeah, you can pick out certain numbers and they're going to be indicative of gameflow and situations.
20 is an arbitrary number yes but the idea is that if the Eagles gameplanned to run Mccoy more in the first half, it would takes its toll on the defenses they play as it did against Balt and NYG earlier in the year. More run game early on and throughout leads to an Eagles victory is the message to take away from this stat.
Absolutely not true.AR doesn't use McCoy enough...but we aren't 3-0 in those games because McCoy ran it...McCoy ran it because we were winning.
I don't have all the numbers but for the Cleveland game I'm pretty sure when we were winning (mainly the 3rd quarter) McCoy didn't have a single carry.
You are correct. See my post above.
 
I don't have all the numbers but for the Cleveland game I'm pretty sure when we were winning (mainly the 3rd quarter) McCoy didn't have a single carry.
Still doesn't prove what you seem to think it does. I absolutely positively 100% agree that McCoy hasn't gotten enough carries this year but 4 or 5 more carries per (lost) game to McCoy wouldn't have changed more than a single game from an L to a W...we were losing for reasons that went well beyond under-using McCoy.I agree that McCoy's lack of carries is a contributing factor to a poor season, but you seem to be trying to say that the lack of carries is a primary reason, using 20 carries as a dividing line to prove the point. But that's silly. Anyone who watches a lot of football will tell you lead RBs get several more carries per game in wins. Rb's who are effective runing the ball get more carries...and teams win more when they are efective running.

Wins correlate to more carries by the lead runner...but it's ridiculous to then say that you win BECAUSE the runner got 20 carries, because correlation does not equal causation.

 
I don't have all the numbers but for the Cleveland game I'm pretty sure when we were winning (mainly the 3rd quarter) McCoy didn't have a single carry.
Still doesn't prove what you seem to think it does. I absolutely positively 100% agree that McCoy hasn't gotten enough carries this year but 4 or 5 more carries per (lost) game to McCoy wouldn't have changed more than a single game from an L to a W...we were losing for reasons that went well beyond under-using McCoy.I agree that McCoy's lack of carries is a contributing factor to a poor season, but you seem to be trying to say that the lack of carries is a primary reason, using 20 carries as a dividing line to prove the point. But that's silly. Anyone who watches a lot of football will tell you lead RBs get several more carries per game in wins. Rb's who are effective runing the ball get more carries...and teams win more when they are efective running.

Wins correlate to more carries by the lead runner...but it's ridiculous to then say that you win BECAUSE the runner got 20 carries, because correlation does not equal causation.
You have to see my reply in the Fire Andy thread. I'm not hung up on the number and agree there's a lot that goes into losing games.
 
I don't have all the numbers but for the Cleveland game I'm pretty sure when we were winning (mainly the 3rd quarter) McCoy didn't have a single carry.
Still doesn't prove what you seem to think it does. I absolutely positively 100% agree that McCoy hasn't gotten enough carries this year but 4 or 5 more carries per (lost) game to McCoy wouldn't have changed more than a single game from an L to a W...we were losing for reasons that went well beyond under-using McCoy.I agree that McCoy's lack of carries is a contributing factor to a poor season, but you seem to be trying to say that the lack of carries is a primary reason, using 20 carries as a dividing line to prove the point. But that's silly. Anyone who watches a lot of football will tell you lead RBs get several more carries per game in wins. Rb's who are effective runing the ball get more carries...and teams win more when they are efective running.

Wins correlate to more carries by the lead runner...but it's ridiculous to then say that you win BECAUSE the runner got 20 carries, because correlation does not equal causation.
You have to see my reply in the Fire Andy thread. I'm not hung up on the number and agree there's a lot that goes into losing games.
Well...it's taken me a while, but I've moved firmly into the Reid's gotta go camp, and his head scratching play-calling is a primary reason for that. The timing of the run plays has bothered me more then the quantity, and it doesn't seem like McCoy has seen half as many screens and swing passes as he should.
 
I don't have all the numbers but for the Cleveland game I'm pretty sure when we were winning (mainly the 3rd quarter) McCoy didn't have a single carry.
Still doesn't prove what you seem to think it does. I absolutely positively 100% agree that McCoy hasn't gotten enough carries this year but 4 or 5 more carries per (lost) game to McCoy wouldn't have changed more than a single game from an L to a W...we were losing for reasons that went well beyond under-using McCoy.I agree that McCoy's lack of carries is a contributing factor to a poor season, but you seem to be trying to say that the lack of carries is a primary reason, using 20 carries as a dividing line to prove the point. But that's silly. Anyone who watches a lot of football will tell you lead RBs get several more carries per game in wins. Rb's who are effective runing the ball get more carries...and teams win more when they are efective running.

Wins correlate to more carries by the lead runner...but it's ridiculous to then say that you win BECAUSE the runner got 20 carries, because correlation does not equal causation.
You have to see my reply in the Fire Andy thread. I'm not hung up on the number and agree there's a lot that goes into losing games.
Well...it's taken me a while, but I've moved firmly into the Reid's gotta go camp, and his head scratching play-calling is a primary reason for that. The timing of the run plays has bothered me more then the quantity, and it doesn't seem like McCoy has seen half as many screens and swing passes as he should.
Even the formations McCoy is getting carries from are bad. It's a given that he's gone IMO. I won't knock the guy when he's done here but much like McNabb he is good but not great and its time to part ways for better or for worse.
 
The Eagles are 3-0 when McCoy has rushed 20 or more times in the game. When he's rushed less than 20 times, the Eagles are 0-6.Reid has to go.
i hate stats like this. cherry picked. go back and do some research. did he get less than 20 carries because they fell behind and had to throw? did he get 20 plus because they were ahead, so he got a couple of extra carries?
You asked the question, you go back and do the research. I've personally watched every snap and I know what the problem is.
:goodposting:
i've seen every snap as well. do they use him enough? no. but 20 is an arbitrary number.you know the other stat everyone likes to throw around - vick's record when he throws 40 or more passes in a game? it's really bad but i can't remember it right now. you know what tony romo's record is when he throws 40 or more passes? 1-13. so, yeah, you can pick out certain numbers and they're going to be indicative of gameflow and situations.
20 is an arbitrary number yes but the idea is that if the Eagles gameplanned to run Mccoy more in the first half, it would takes its toll on the defenses they play as it did against Balt and NYG earlier in the year. More run game early on and throughout leads to an Eagles victory is the message to take away from this stat.
Absolutely not true.AR doesn't use McCoy enough...but we aren't 3-0 in those games because McCoy ran it...McCoy ran it because we were winning.
We were winning because McCoy was running it. Control the ball and control the clock. Keep your D fresh and off the field. These are fairly simple ideas. Clev game; McCoy 20 carries for 110 yards. Eagles TOP was 35:58. We win by 1.Balt game; McCoy 25 carries for 81 yards. Eagles TOP was 34:21. We win by 1. NYG Game: McCoy 23 carries for 123 yards. Eagles TOP 33:21. We win by 2. Conversely, AZ game: McCoy 13 for 70 yards: Eagles TOP 25:27. Lose by 21.Pitt game: McCoy 16 for 53 yards. Eagles TOP 26:29. Lose by 2.Det game: McCoy 14 for 22 yards. Eagles TOP in an OT game 33:19. Lose by 3. Atl game: 16 for 45 yards. Eagles TOP 27:05. Lose by 13.NO game: 19 for 119. Eagles TOP 33:30. Lose by 15. This one could be argued they should have ran him more because of how good he was doing. Dal game: 16 for 82 yards. Eagles TOP 32:02. Lose by 15. So the 3 wins, McCoy gets 20+ carries, they win the TOP and the game. In the 6 losses, McCoy doesn't get 20 carries. Lose TOP in 3 out of the 6 and we lose. Turnovers obviously play a huge role as well but 9 games is a fairly decent indicator that perhaps they should be finding ways to get him the ball more.
 

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