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Cowher's Who Dey gets a big "so what" (1 Viewer)
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DoctorDetroit
Chocolate Thunder
That guy must have drank the same thing I did at the Super Bowl!
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
The difference between Patriots fans and Steelers fans is that even though the Patriots fans were annoying and talked trash, most people knew deep down they had the best team, best coach, etc.
However, other than Steelers fans, I don't think you are going to find too many people that think the best team in the NFL got the Lombardi trophy this year.
However, other than Steelers fans, I don't think you are going to find too many people that think the best team in the NFL got the Lombardi trophy this year.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The Steelers beat the #1, #2, and #3 seeds in the AFC and the #1 seed in the NFC, none of which were played at home. Please tell me which team was more deserving.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Often times the best team doesn't win the championship. If you're going to say the Steelers aren't the best team this year, how could you possibly say the Pats team that won in 2001 was the best team? You don't think the Rams were a better team that year?
bryhamm
Footballguy
I guess they should just give the trophy to the team with the best record at the end of the season, because obvioulsy THAT is the measuring stick for the best team. So congrats Colts fans, you guys are the champs this year.Oh but wait, I guess that the Pats have to give up last year's trophy to the Steelers because PIT finished 15-1 last year and was the best team.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
A majority of the football fans believe the Steelers only beat Cincy because of the injury to Palmer. A majority of the football fans believe they won the Super Bowl game as a result of poor officiating. No matter how much posturing is done by Steelers fans the 05/06 season is going to be viewed by many like the first election of W. The legitimacy will always be questioned. That's the fact.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
What exactly is your point? Fans don't decide the outcome of the game. A majority of fans also believe the 2001 Pats should have been knocked out in the first round against the Raiders if not for the ridiculous tuck rule. If you're going to knock this year's Steelers team, I don't see anyway that you can't knock the 2001 Pats team (unless you're biased of course).
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Oh and by the way--considering Palmer got hurt on the first play of the game, I don't see how any knowledgable and impartial fan could even begin to predict what would or could have happened in that game if he had played. You have absolutely no idea if Palmer could have overcome the 14 point difference in that game.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
I'm sorry this is a thread about Cowher being a tool in 2006, not the Patriots in 2001. The two teams do have one thing in common. They both got beat by the Bengals in the regular season on their way to asterix laden playoff wins.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
This was a poll from Yahoo right after the game. Next question...
Question: A healthy Palmer would've changed ...
13343 votes since Jan 8 2006
The result 61% 8097 votes
Nothing 39% 5246 votes
Question: A healthy Palmer would've changed ...
13343 votes since Jan 8 2006
The result 61% 8097 votes
Nothing 39% 5246 votes
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Wow in with that rebuttal, I'm speechless.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Again your point is? You don't think this poll based on fan opinion is complete speculation?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Why even bother to play games then. Let's just set up polls each week and let people that vote in Yahoo polls decide the outcome.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
It might be a little better than letting incompetent officiating decide the games.Why even bother to play games then. Let's just set up polls each week and let people that vote in Yahoo polls decide the outcome.
nerangers
Footballguy
The game is played on the GridIron, not on paper. The team that wins the Super Bowl is the best team that season, plain and simple. There is no asterik put on the trophy. Love the posturing with the "what if" game. The fact is that the Steelers made an incredible run, and won the big game. This is the Steelers we are talking about. Four times in the last TEN years they made it to the AFC Championship game (six times if you count the last twelve years, with NE and Denver at 3 each). I am sorry, but Cincy was not going to knock out the Steelers, and we know what they did to the other teams.Here is your * for the 2001 Patriots Team: On the same play, the game film shows that Raider safety Charles Woodson was guilty of roughing Brady by slapping him in the head. Had it been called, it would have resulted in a 15 yard penalty against the Raiders and would have made whether Brady tucked the ball or not a moot point.
Way to go Super Bowl XL Champion Steelers...enjoy it!!!
nerangers
Footballguy
or incompetent TEs dropping the ball on key plays????? or bad clock management??? or a game ending interception??? or keeping your feet in bounds when catching the ball near the end zone??? I am sure none of these had anything to do with the loss.Four possibly bad calls that game.It might be a little better than letting incompetent officiating decide the games.Why even bother to play games then. Let's just set up polls each week and let people that vote in Yahoo polls decide the outcome.
The DJax TD - this was on a 1-10-PIT16, the penalty took away the TD, but you were still 1-20-PIT26. You still could have gotten a TD. We have seen other teams overcome that. You ended up with three points.
The Big Ben TD - 3-1-SEA1 - yep did not look like he made it. Probably would have kicked and ended up with three if it was called differently.
Holding call on Sean Locklear - hmmm was not his first one of the night. 1-10-PIT19 changed to 1-20-PIT29 and took away a 18 yard catch. Hasselbeck could have still overcame this. Instead next play he is sacked. Two plays later he is picked.
The final penalty, the low block from Hasselbeck, was a bad call. But this call gave the Steelers 15 more yards, not a score. I think at this point the Seahawks are in disbelief and let the rest of the game slip away.
Bad officiating, yes...enough to cause the Seahawks to lose the game, no.
Traders2001
Footballguy
“I’m mad they won (the Super Bowl) with the help of the referees,”
This explains it very well.
I am a Steeler fan myself and it really looked like the NFL wanted to hand the trophy to the Steelers .
It almost looked like it was arranged , even the call against Indy ( the fumble by Polamalu ) they made this call to make it look like there was bad calls also against the Steelers.
But they did all they could to give the Super Bowl trophy to Jerome.
This explains it very well.
I am a Steeler fan myself and it really looked like the NFL wanted to hand the trophy to the Steelers .
It almost looked like it was arranged , even the call against Indy ( the fumble by Polamalu ) they made this call to make it look like there was bad calls also against the Steelers.
But they did all they could to give the Super Bowl trophy to Jerome.
Stillers Jr.
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Another theory has the handing of the Lombardi Trophy to the Steelers as a tribute to Dan Rooney.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
lol I think you totally missed the
in his post.
The Jerk
Footballguy
You're a very interesting "Steeler" fan when you make these kind of posts:On why New England lost at Denver in the playoffs:
In the thread concerning who will play at Pittsburgh to open the season:
Something does not seem to add up here. For a Steeler fan, you seem to have the Patriots on your mind quite a bit, not just in these quotes listed above but in many of your other posts, too.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I didn't know about all of his other posts. I thought he was just being sarcastic.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Two things...If Roethlisberger had been ruled down, the Steelers were still going to go for it on 4th and inches. You know how many times the Steelers failed on 4th down this year? Zero.or incompetent TEs dropping the ball on key plays????? or bad clock management??? or a game ending interception??? or keeping your feet in bounds when catching the ball near the end zone??? I am sure none of these had anything to do with the loss.Four possibly bad calls that game.It might be a little better than letting incompetent officiating decide the games.Why even bother to play games then. Let's just set up polls each week and let people that vote in Yahoo polls decide the outcome.
The DJax TD - this was on a 1-10-PIT16, the penalty took away the TD, but you were still 1-20-PIT26. You still could have gotten a TD. We have seen other teams overcome that. You ended up with three points.
The Big Ben TD - 3-1-SEA1 - yep did not look like he made it. Probably would have kicked and ended up with three if it was called differently.
Holding call on Sean Locklear - hmmm was not his first one of the night. 1-10-PIT19 changed to 1-20-PIT29 and took away a 18 yard catch. Hasselbeck could have still overcame this. Instead next play he is sacked. Two plays later he is picked.
The final penalty, the low block from Hasselbeck, was a bad call. But this call gave the Steelers 15 more yards, not a score. I think at this point the Seahawks are in disbelief and let the rest of the game slip away.
Bad officiating, yes...enough to cause the Seahawks to lose the game, no.
And second, it's nice for someone to see that while the calls may have been questionable, the Seahawks had plenty of chances to make a play to overcome them. People disregard the fact that both plays happened on first down, and there's video evidence to support both calls. Whether they should've been called is really the only legit debate on them.
The Steelers had an offensive pass interference call made against them and that was followed by a sack setting up 3rd and 28. So how did they respond? With a 37 yard pass down to the 2 yard line. Not a field goal, and not an INT.
Class Dismissed
Footballguy
Steelers don't have the Patriots next year......That honor belongs to the Bengals and ther first place Schedule.
Congrats on your division Title!
Congrats on your division Title!
Bears_Man2
Footballguy
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Footballguy
People are sheep... are you referring to the blind homers who will blindly not admit the fact that the refs sucked in that game and that the majority of NFL fans think that the refs had an influence in the outcome of the game. Ok everyone else in the world are just walking zombies blindly following the herd, but you are so far above that. YOU CAN SEE THE TRUTH!!!!
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The problem is the majority of fans don't really know the rules. I umpire baseball and I can't tell you how many times fans get upset over calls because they don't know the rules. For instance, I was umping at a Pony League baseball tournament and this kid gets a bunt single, overruns 1st base, and immediately turns left to return to the bag instead of turning right (foul territory). The kid never made an attempt to go to 2nd base and actually had his head down as he was walking back.
So the opposing team's fans are yelling at the 1st baseman to tag the kid and he does. I called him safe and the whole grandstand starts yelling at me. They were absolutely certain they knew the rules but they were wrong. I even had one guy waiting for me in the parking lot at the end of the game so I offered to show him the rule in the rulebook. He said he didn't care what the rulebook said it was still a bad call.
"Inside the NFL" reviewed the controversial calls in Super Bowl XL in the opening of their show this week. Dan Marino, Chris Collingsworth and Chris Carter said that only the low block on Hasselbeck was a bad call and the other calls were correct.
Titans Head Coach Jeff Fisher, who is co-chairman of the NFL Competition Committee, said the PI called against Jackson and the holding call on Locklear were both correctly called.
Are these guys blind homers? I am willing to bet that these guys know a little bit more about the rules and how they are applied in the NFL than 99.9999999% of the fans watching on TV.
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Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Sssssssh!!!! In case you haven't heard, those calls were the only reasons the Steelers won that game! Don't you know that EVERYONE knows the calls were bad! Stop using actual rules and opinions of people who don't think the calls were bad to justify the calls!
M
MLBrandow
Guest
Why did I bother scrolling through 3 pages of this? What a worthless thread.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
We'll stop as soon as all of theI just love reading the comedy by the usual suspects in this thread.
stops. Until then, 
trip though.
Stillers Jr.
Footballguy
Again GB is waaay too logical for the Steeler-Haters that refuse to cite credible sources for the "bad calls".Marino, Collingsworth, Carter, Fisher? What do they know about football? I'd rather side with some bone-headed Bungle fan with an ax to grind.The problem is the majority of fans don't really know the rules. I umpire baseball and I can't tell you how many times fans get upset over calls because they don't know the rules. For instance, I was umping at a Pony League baseball tournament and this kid gets a bunt single, overruns 1st base, and immediately turns left to return to the bag instead of turning right (foul territory). The kid never made an attempt to go to 2nd base and actually had his head down as he was walking back.
So the opposing team's fans are yelling at the 1st baseman to tag the kid and he does. I called him safe and the whole grandstand starts yelling at me. They were absolutely certain they knew the rules but they were wrong. I even had one guy waiting for me in the parking lot at the end of the game so I offered to show him the rule in the rulebook. He said he didn't care what the rulebook said it was still a bad call.
"Inside the NFL" reviewed the controversial calls in Super Bowl XL in the opening of their show this week. Dan Marino, Chris Collingsworth and Chris Carter said that only the low block on Hasselbeck was a bad call and the other calls were correct.
Titans Head Coach Jeff Fisher, who is co-chairman of the NFL Competition Committee, said the PI called against Jackson and the holding call on Locklear were both correctly called.
Are these guys blind homers? I am willing to bet that these guys know a little bit more about the rules and how they are applied in the NFL than 99.9999999% of the fans watching on TV.
I have watched the game 3x so far and the Seahawks did nothing but shoot themselves in the foot time and time again.
Let me put it this way...I hate the Ravens. When they won the SB I wanted nothing more than to discredit what they accomplished. I was bitter and I let it cloud my objectivity.
All the geniuses that keep perpetuating the theory the Steelers were "handed" the SB are in the same boat I was. Bitter, Jaded and unable to be rational...hence they never adderess why Marino, Collingsworth, Carter and Fisher said the calls were CORRECT! But please don't let me stop you..
(BTW Collingsworth is not the biggest Steeler fan, so if there was something shady, believe me he'd be chirping)
TheLaw
Footballguy
Steelers fans . . . let's just not comment anymore. These Bengals and Browns fans (there really are some suddenly I guess) and other "haters" just continue to make themselves look foolish. Their goal is to draw attention away from the Steelers accomplishments. #### these fools.
Stillers Jr.
Footballguy
I agree...Similar threads
