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It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the opening game of the NFL season be Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh.
Yea, that would give Pittsburgh another chance to beat our backup QB.
One more time: Kitna twice gave the Bengals double digit leads that the defense couldn't hold. The Bengals aren't going anywhere in the playoffs until they get a defense.
Yeah nice try. This is a pretty weak argument. You know as well as everyone on this board that Kitna totally blew.
How is it a weak argument? In the three games the Bengals played the Steelers they gave up 27, 31 and 31 points. Do you think that is good defense?Cowher's record when up by 10 points is like 105-1-1 (the one loss coming against Kitna). When you have a double digit lead your defense isn't supposed to blow it and the Bengals D did it TWICE.

Next season they have to play the Steelers (twice), San Diego, Carolina, New England, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Denver and the Colts. The Bengals are going to have to improve their defense if they want to take it to the next level.

 
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the opening game of the NFL season be Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh.
Yea, that would give Pittsburgh another chance to beat our backup QB.
One more time: Kitna twice gave the Bengals double digit leads that the defense couldn't hold. The Bengals aren't going anywhere in the playoffs until they get a defense.
Yeah nice try. This is a pretty weak argument. You know as well as everyone on this board that Kitna totally blew.
How is it a weak argument? In the three games the Bengals played the Steelers they gave up 27, 31 and 31 points. Do you think that is good defense?Cowher's record when up by 10 points is like 105-1-1 (the one loss coming against Kitna). When you have a double digit lead your defense isn't supposed to blow it and the Bengals D did it TWICE.

Next season they have to play the Steelers (twice), San Diego, Carolina, New England, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Denver and the Colts. The Bengals are going to have to improve their defense if they want to take it to the next level.
Wow, brutal schedule. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bengals slip back to 9-7.
 
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the opening game of the NFL season be Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh.
Yea, that would give Pittsburgh another chance to beat our backup QB.
One more time: Kitna twice gave the Bengals double digit leads that the defense couldn't hold. The Bengals aren't going anywhere in the playoffs until they get a defense.
Yeah nice try. This is a pretty weak argument. You know as well as everyone on this board that Kitna totally blew.
How is it a weak argument? In the three games the Bengals played the Steelers they gave up 27, 31 and 31 points. Do you think that is good defense?Cowher's record when up by 10 points is like 105-1-1 (the one loss coming against Kitna). When you have a double digit lead your defense isn't supposed to blow it and the Bengals D did it TWICE.

Next season they have to play the Steelers (twice), San Diego, Carolina, New England, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Denver and the Colts. The Bengals are going to have to improve their defense if they want to take it to the next level.
Please GB, this is waaay too logical. SoFresh is full of sour grapes and is trying to dis-credit the Steelers in anyway he can. He will no doubtedly reject your reality, and use his own. In his reality, the Bungles would have won it all while giving up 31+ points a game. Makes perfect sense to anyone that has watched football for more than 10 minutes...

 
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the opening game of the NFL season be Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh.
Yea, that would give Pittsburgh another chance to beat our backup QB.
One more time: Kitna twice gave the Bengals double digit leads that the defense couldn't hold. The Bengals aren't going anywhere in the playoffs until they get a defense.
Yeah nice try. This is a pretty weak argument. You know as well as everyone on this board that Kitna totally blew.
How is it a weak argument? In the three games the Bengals played the Steelers they gave up 27, 31 and 31 points. Do you think that is good defense?Cowher's record when up by 10 points is like 105-1-1 (the one loss coming against Kitna). When you have a double digit lead your defense isn't supposed to blow it and the Bengals D did it TWICE.

Next season they have to play the Steelers (twice), San Diego, Carolina, New England, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Denver and the Colts. The Bengals are going to have to improve their defense if they want to take it to the next level.
Wow, brutal schedule. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bengals slip back to 9-7.
8-8 and out of the playoffs.It's MUCH harder to stay on top of the division than it is to get there. We know this, but you can't really blame Bengals fans for not knowing - how would they?

 
Ya I believe Chad Johnson said the Bengals would be on top for awhile now in the middle of the season. Well that Chad is just too sad.
Well, we won the division. So I guess he was kinda right.
The Bungles beat us ONCE at home, but now think they own the division, if Ben didn't get hurt in the middle of the season, the Bungles would have been the 6th seed, period. You think Carson is just going to come back 100% this year from a MAJOR knee injury ? Keep dreaming Bungles fans, we own the AFC North AND Paul Brown stadium..... :yes: :yes: :yes: :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Steelers - 5 Lombardis

Bungles - 0

We let you get a taste of glory then slapped the Bungles back down were they belong, just like #85 did to Marvin at halftime....

:argue: :clyde:

:ptts:

 
Ya I believe Chad Johnson said the Bengals would be on top for awhile now in the middle of the season. Well that Chad is just too sad.
Well, we won the division. So I guess he was kinda right.
which one would u rather have?
Feel good knowing that you beat a 2nd string quarterback. You know that made a difference, and I won't take any other opinion on that issue. Good day, sir.
Well, if that game doesnt count for you, then you should disregard your division title as Ben missed four games. TIA. Let me know when you win a playoff game.
 
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the opening game of the NFL season be Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh.
Yea, that would give Pittsburgh another chance to beat our backup QB.
One more time: Kitna twice gave the Bengals double digit leads that the defense couldn't hold. The Bengals aren't going anywhere in the playoffs until they get a defense.
Yeah nice try. This is a pretty weak argument. You know as well as everyone on this board that Kitna totally blew.
How is it a weak argument? In the three games the Bengals played the Steelers they gave up 27, 31 and 31 points. Do you think that is good defense?Cowher's record when up by 10 points is like 105-1-1 (the one loss coming against Kitna). When you have a double digit lead your defense isn't supposed to blow it and the Bengals D did it TWICE.

Next season they have to play the Steelers (twice), San Diego, Carolina, New England, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Denver and the Colts. The Bengals are going to have to improve their defense if they want to take it to the next level.
Please GB, this is waaay too logical. SoFresh is full of sour grapes and is trying to dis-credit the Steelers in anyway he can. He will no doubtedly reject your reality, and use his own. In his reality, the Bungles would have won it all while giving up 31+ points a game. Makes perfect sense to anyone that has watched football for more than 10 minutes...
:goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: Jealousy is a mutha... :cry:

 
Ya I believe Chad Johnson said the Bengals would be on top for awhile now in the middle of the season. Well that Chad is just too sad.
Well, we won the division. So I guess he was kinda right.
And the Bengals might have a chance at winning it again next year if the Steelers have to start their backup QB for 4 games of the season.Aside from 2 overtime losses with Maddox sucking, the Steelers were a 13-3 team. Enjoy that division championship!

I hope Palmer's back healthy next year... this rivalry's got a lot of potential.
Bengals > Steelers
we keep waiting for that knowledge :towelwave:m
 
Ya I believe Chad Johnson said the Bengals would be on top for awhile now in the middle of the season. Well that Chad is just too sad.
Well, we won the division. So I guess he was kinda right.
The Bungles beat us ONCE at home, but now think they own the division, if Ben didn't get hurt in the middle of the season, the Bungles would have been the 6th seed, period. You think Carson is just going to come back 100% this year from a MAJOR knee injury ? Keep dreaming Bungles fans, we own the AFC North AND Paul Brown stadium..... :yes: :yes: :yes: :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Steelers - 5 Lombardis

Bungles - 0

We let you get a taste of glory then slapped the Bungles back down were they belong, just like #85 did to Marvin at halftime....

:argue: :clyde:

:ptts:
You are absoulutely pathetic. Grow up child.
 
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the opening game of the NFL season be Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh.
Yea, that would give Pittsburgh another chance to beat our backup QB.
One more time: Kitna twice gave the Bengals double digit leads that the defense couldn't hold. The Bengals aren't going anywhere in the playoffs until they get a defense.
Yeah nice try. This is a pretty weak argument. You know as well as everyone on this board that Kitna totally blew.
How is it a weak argument? In the three games the Bengals played the Steelers they gave up 27, 31 and 31 points. Do you think that is good defense?Cowher's record when up by 10 points is like 105-1-1 (the one loss coming against Kitna). When you have a double digit lead your defense isn't supposed to blow it and the Bengals D did it TWICE.

Next season they have to play the Steelers (twice), San Diego, Carolina, New England, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Denver and the Colts. The Bengals are going to have to improve their defense if they want to take it to the next level.
Please GB, this is waaay too logical. SoFresh is full of sour grapes and is trying to dis-credit the Steelers in anyway he can. He will no doubtedly reject your reality, and use his own. In his reality, the Bungles would have won it all while giving up 31+ points a game. Makes perfect sense to anyone that has watched football for more than 10 minutes...
Did I say we'd go all the way? No. We would have definitely won that game though. The only reason we got the first couple of points is because of the only pass Carson threw. We outscored you the time before, and it was well on the way to happen again. We got a lead, then Kitna was unable to sustain any sort of a drive after the first quarter. That's all there is to it.
 
It's amazing how touchy Steelers fans are. I sense a bit of fear for their future. Perhaps you are starting to see the transition take place. I'm done with this thread, its not even March. Let the games begin.

 
"wait-till-next-year" is the bungles chant every year :P
Hilarious. George Carlin...is that you!?!?!
He wasn't kidding, guy.
Yeah because I hear that chant all the time in the stadium, guy.
At least that would make sense. You seem like you have some wits about you -- Make this happen please.
:rolleyes: That seems logical. They go to the playoffs, so let's chant about how bad they used to be.
 
:lmao: :lmao: Yeah, the lombardi trophy hasn't even been gathering dust for a week, and now we're afraid. :lmao: :lmao:

I retract my "You seem like you have some wits about you" statement.

 
"wait-till-next-year" is the bungles chant every year :P
Hilarious. George Carlin...is that you!?!?!
He wasn't kidding, guy.
Yeah because I hear that chant all the time in the stadium, guy.
At least that would make sense. You seem like you have some wits about you -- Make this happen please.
:rolleyes: That seems logical. They go to the playoffs, so let's chant about how bad they used to be.
you're happy getting booted from the Playoffs in the first round? This wasn't a "wait until next year" year for you? OK. Hooray for low standards. :thumbup:
 
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the opening game of the NFL season be Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh.
Yea, that would give Pittsburgh another chance to beat our backup QB.
One more time: Kitna twice gave the Bengals double digit leads that the defense couldn't hold. The Bengals aren't going anywhere in the playoffs until they get a defense.
Yeah nice try. This is a pretty weak argument. You know as well as everyone on this board that Kitna totally blew.
How is it a weak argument? In the three games the Bengals played the Steelers they gave up 27, 31 and 31 points. Do you think that is good defense?Cowher's record when up by 10 points is like 105-1-1 (the one loss coming against Kitna). When you have a double digit lead your defense isn't supposed to blow it and the Bengals D did it TWICE.

Next season they have to play the Steelers (twice), San Diego, Carolina, New England, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Denver and the Colts. The Bengals are going to have to improve their defense if they want to take it to the next level.
Please GB, this is waaay too logical. SoFresh is full of sour grapes and is trying to dis-credit the Steelers in anyway he can. He will no doubtedly reject your reality, and use his own. In his reality, the Bungles would have won it all while giving up 31+ points a game. Makes perfect sense to anyone that has watched football for more than 10 minutes...
We would have definitely won that game though.
Sofresh I'm a steeler fan and I'm trying to stay out of these battles because I really do think this rivalry is building up strong for the near future. However, statements like these only add fuel to the fire and provoke retaliation by Steeler fans. You seem like an intelligent fan so surely you realize this statement is complete speculation? You saying that the Bengals "would have definitely won the game" if Palmer had played is tantamount to Steeler fans saying "the refs did a wonderful job of officiating in the superbowl". Palmer got hurt on the very first play of the game so how can you possibly even begin to predict what the outcome of that game would have been if he had been healthy?
 
Palmer looked pretty good on the first drive of the first Cincinnati-Pittsburgh game too and looked what happened.

The bottom line is that we will never know how the playoff game would have gone had Palmer not gotten hurt. For you to say the Bengals would have definitely won is crazy.

The one thing we do know is that the Bengals had leads of 10-0 and 17-7 and the defense could not hold the lead. The defense is what let you down.

 
How can you Bengals fans possibly say that Cinci "DEFINITELY" would have won if Palmer was still in the game. :rolleyes: This is the most absurd thing Ive heard so far in this thread. Even I can admit that the Steelers may still have lost those four regular season games with Ben in.

ETA: Obviously Im not the only one who caught this...

 
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I’m mad they won (the Super Bowl) with the help of the referees,” Houshmandzadeh said. “But it doesn’t matter. It’s all in fun. I don’t know if they think we’re the best team they played, or if the Seahawks, or Colts, or Broncos just don’t have a cheer.”

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:cry:
I guess the roughly 66% of non-partisan fans who agree with that sentiment as well are also crying too then, huh?I'm well aware of the fact that it comes off as sour grapes, but you can't possibly be dense enough to believe that refereeing didn't have an impact on this game.

 
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Ya I believe Chad Johnson said the Bengals would be on top for awhile now in the middle of the season. Well that Chad is just too sad.
Well, we won the division. So I guess he was kinda right.
The Bungles beat us ONCE at home, but now think they own the division, if Ben didn't get hurt in the middle of the season, the Bungles would have been the 6th seed, period. You think Carson is just going to come back 100% this year from a MAJOR knee injury ? Keep dreaming Bungles fans, we own the AFC North AND Paul Brown stadium..... :yes: :yes: :yes: :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Steelers - 5 Lombardis

Bungles - 0

We let you get a taste of glory then slapped the Bungles back down were they belong, just like #85 did to Marvin at halftime....

:argue: :clyde:

:ptts:
You are absoulutely pathetic. Grow up child.
No, that would be the Bungles for the last decade or so, but now that they had one good season and didn't even win a playoff game, you think they will rule the AFC North ?????? :rolleyes: You after the Steelers became WORLD CHAMPS ------> :wall:

Don't drink the haterade....WE DEY !!!! :towelwave:

 
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It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the opening game of the NFL season be Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh.
Yea, that would give Pittsburgh another chance to beat our backup QB.
One more time: Kitna twice gave the Bengals double digit leads that the defense couldn't hold. The Bengals aren't going anywhere in the playoffs until they get a defense.
Yeah nice try. This is a pretty weak argument. You know as well as everyone on this board that Kitna totally blew.
How is it a weak argument? In the three games the Bengals played the Steelers they gave up 27, 31 and 31 points. Do you think that is good defense?Cowher's record when up by 10 points is like 105-1-1 (the one loss coming against Kitna). When you have a double digit lead your defense isn't supposed to blow it and the Bengals D did it TWICE.

Next season they have to play the Steelers (twice), San Diego, Carolina, New England, Kansas City, Tampa Bay, Denver and the Colts. The Bengals are going to have to improve their defense if they want to take it to the next level.
Please GB, this is waaay too logical. SoFresh is full of sour grapes and is trying to dis-credit the Steelers in anyway he can. He will no doubtedly reject your reality, and use his own. In his reality, the Bungles would have won it all while giving up 31+ points a game. Makes perfect sense to anyone that has watched football for more than 10 minutes...
We would have definitely won that game though.
Sofresh I'm a steeler fan and I'm trying to stay out of these battles because I really do think this rivalry is building up strong for the near future. However, statements like these only add fuel to the fire and provoke retaliation by Steeler fans. You seem like an intelligent fan so surely you realize this statement is complete speculation? You saying that the Bengals "would have definitely won the game" if Palmer had played is tantamount to Steeler fans saying "the refs did a wonderful job of officiating in the superbowl". Palmer got hurt on the very first play of the game so how can you possibly even begin to predict what the outcome of that game would have been if he had been healthy?
I agree, I like to have fun here. It's just an internet forum. I do feel that we had good momentum and think we would have won despite our lackluster defense.
 
Ya I believe Chad Johnson said the Bengals would be on top for awhile now in the middle of the season. Well that Chad is just too sad.
Well, we won the division. So I guess he was kinda right.
The Bungles beat us ONCE at home, but now think they own the division, if Ben didn't get hurt in the middle of the season, the Bungles would have been the 6th seed, period. You think Carson is just going to come back 100% this year from a MAJOR knee injury ? Keep dreaming Bungles fans, we own the AFC North AND Paul Brown stadium..... :yes: :yes: :yes: :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Steelers - 5 Lombardis

Bungles - 0

We let you get a taste of glory then slapped the Bungles back down were they belong, just like #85 did to Marvin at halftime....

:argue: :clyde:

:ptts:
You are absoulutely pathetic. Grow up child.
No, that would be the Bungles for the last decade or so, but now that they had one good season and didn't even win a playoff game, you think they will rule the AFC North ?????? :rolleyes: You after the Steelers became WORLD CHAMPS ------> :wall:

Don't drink the haterade....WE DEY !!!! :towelwave:
Again, grow up. You give respectable Steeler fans a bad name.
 
Ya I believe Chad Johnson said the Bengals would be on top for awhile now in the middle of the season. Well that Chad is just too sad.
Well, we won the division. So I guess he was kinda right.
The Bungles beat us ONCE at home, but now think they own the division, if Ben didn't get hurt in the middle of the season, the Bungles would have been the 6th seed, period. You think Carson is just going to come back 100% this year from a MAJOR knee injury ? Keep dreaming Bungles fans, we own the AFC North AND Paul Brown stadium..... :yes: :yes: :yes: :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Steelers - 5 Lombardis

Bungles - 0

We let you get a taste of glory then slapped the Bungles back down were they belong, just like #85 did to Marvin at halftime....

:argue: :clyde:

:ptts:
You are absoulutely pathetic. Grow up child.
No, that would be the Bungles for the last decade or so, but now that they had one good season and didn't even win a playoff game, you think they will rule the AFC North ?????? :rolleyes: You after the Steelers became WORLD CHAMPS ------> :wall:

Don't drink the haterade....WE DEY !!!! :towelwave:
Again, grow up. You give respectable Steeler fans a bad name.
Why, because I point out how pathetic your franchise has been for many, many years ? WE DEY !

 
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"wait-till-next-year" is the bungles chant every year :P
Hilarious. George Carlin...is that you!?!?!
He wasn't kidding, guy.
Yeah because I hear that chant all the time in the stadium, guy.
At least that would make sense. You seem like you have some wits about you -- Make this happen please.
:rolleyes: That seems logical. They go to the playoffs, so let's chant about how bad they used to be.
you're happy getting booted from the Playoffs in the first round? This wasn't a "wait until next year" year for you? OK. Hooray for low standards. :thumbup:
What else can I expect? Yes, I am happy they made the playoffs after years of misery. I was not expecting a Super Bowl run.
 
Ya I believe Chad Johnson said the Bengals would be on top for awhile now in the middle of the season. Well that Chad is just too sad.
Well, we won the division. So I guess he was kinda right.
The Bungles beat us ONCE at home, but now think they own the division, if Ben didn't get hurt in the middle of the season, the Bungles would have been the 6th seed, period. You think Carson is just going to come back 100% this year from a MAJOR knee injury ? Keep dreaming Bungles fans, we own the AFC North AND Paul Brown stadium..... :yes: :yes: :yes: :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Steelers - 5 Lombardis

Bungles - 0

We let you get a taste of glory then slapped the Bungles back down were they belong, just like #85 did to Marvin at halftime....

:argue: :clyde:

:ptts:
You are absoulutely pathetic. Grow up child.
No, that would be the Bungles for the last decade or so, but now that they had one good season and didn't even win a playoff game, you think they will rule the AFC North ?????? :rolleyes: You after the Steelers became WORLD CHAMPS ------> :wall:

Don't drink the haterade....WE DEY !!!! :towelwave:
Again, grow up. You give respectable Steeler fans a bad name.
Why, because I point out how pathetic your franchise has been for many, many years ? WE DEY !
Keep making yourself look stupid.
 
I’m mad they won (the Super Bowl) with the help of the referees,” Houshmandzadeh said. “But it doesn’t matter. It’s all in fun. I don’t know if they think we’re the best team they played, or if the Seahawks, or Colts, or Broncos just don’t have a cheer.”

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:cry:
I guess Joe Bryant was crying for the Bengals when he said that the refereeing was one-sided too then, huh? And roughly 66% of non-partisan fans who agree with that sentiment as well?Turn off the blinders dude.
Blinders or not, maybe I'm just not big on excuses. Anyone who wants to can complain about the referees, but the Steelers won the Super Bowl, and no amount of griping can change that. Doing so after the fact just makes you look petty, and quite frankly, like a loser.Losers make excuses. Winners overcome obstacles. This applies to every aspect of life, not just football. People who want to logically discuss the various calls in the Super Bowl, like Joe did, are fine by me. People who talk about asterisks, bias, and fixes, are just reaching, and really quite pathetic. That's why I hated Holmgren's comment - he's just giving his team an excuse as to why they lost instead of asking them to look inside themselves and ask what they could have done better. The latter course of action helps you become a better team, the former does not.

 
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It's amazing how touchy Steelers fans are. I sense a bit of fear for their future. Perhaps you are starting to see the transition take place. I'm done with this thread, its not even March. Let the games begin.
This made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that today. :thumbup: :lmao:

 
It's amazing how touchy Steelers fans are.  I sense a bit of fear for their future.  Perhaps you are starting to see the transition take place. I'm done with this thread, its not even March.  Let the games begin.
This made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that today. :thumbup: :lmao:
Easily amused I guess.
 
I’m mad they won (the Super Bowl) with the help of the referees,” Houshmandzadeh said. “But it doesn’t matter. It’s all in fun. I don’t know if they think we’re the best team they played, or if the Seahawks, or Colts, or Broncos just don’t have a cheer.”

:thumbup:
:cry:
I guess Joe Bryant was crying for the Bengals when he said that the refereeing was one-sided too then, huh? And roughly 66% of non-partisan fans who agree with that sentiment as well?Turn off the blinders dude.
Blinders or not, maybe I'm just not big on excuses. Anyone who wants to can complain about the referees, but the Steelers won the Super Bowl, and no amount of griping can change that. Doing so after the fact just makes you look petty, and quite frankly, like a loser.Losers make excuses. Winners overcome obstacles. This applies to every aspect of life, not just football. People who want to logically discuss the various calls in the Super Bowl, like Joe did, are fine by me. People who talk about asterisks, bias, and fixes, are just reaching, and really quite pathetic. That's why I hated Holmgren's comment - he's just giving his team an excuse as to why they lost instead of asking them to look inside themselves and ask what they could have done better. The latter course of action helps you become a better team, the former does not.
I've never ever EVER been one to use officiating as an excuse for losing. I could point out posts to you where I said the Polamalu non-INT in the Indy game was an absolute JOKE of a call, so it's not like I'm trying to make excuses for why they lost. In fact, I didn't even SAY that they lost because of officiating, I only said that the officiating was horrendously one-sided, which the vast majority of people who actually watched the game agree on. You can paint me as a loser if you want, I just think that you of all Steelers fans would be willing to acknowledge that the refereeing had an impact on this game. Not that the Seahawks won because of it.

 
It's amazing how touchy Steelers fans are. I sense a bit of fear for their future. Perhaps you are starting to see the transition take place. I'm done with this thread, its not even March. Let the games begin.
This made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that today. :thumbup: :lmao:
Easily amused I guess.
Don't take this the wrong way, because it really is said with a smile on my face. But do you really that any team that beat another team 2 out of 3 times in a season and then went on to win the SB would be fearing that team? Think about it.
 
I credit the AFC North Champs for pushing the Steelers towards becoming NFL Champs. The Bengals play and "Who Dey" talk really focused the Steelers after their loss to Cincy at home. Cowher rallied the troops after that game. I suspect alot of the motivation came from Cincy and the Who Dey bs that they pulled after the game at Heinz Field.

Congrats to Cincy and their Division title. I'd take 2nd place AFC North and World Champs any day! Best of all the Steelers play that 2nd place schedule next year (getting Miami and Jax) while Cincy plays the first place schedule (NE & Indy).

Here's to a budding rivalry (if Palmer returns healthy)! Love to see a Steelers/Bengals Thursday night game to open 2006.

 
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It's amazing how touchy Steelers fans are.  I sense a bit of fear for their future.  Perhaps you are starting to see the transition take place. I'm done with this thread, its not even March.  Let the games begin.
This made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that today. :thumbup: :lmao:
Easily amused I guess.
Don't take this the wrong way, because it really is said with a smile on my face. But do you really that any team that beat another team 2 out of 3 times in a season and then went on to win the SB would be fearing that team? Think about it.
Yes.
 
I credit the AFC North Champs for pushing the Steelers towards becoming NFL Champs. The Bengals play and "Who Dey" talk really focused the Steelers after their loss to Cincy at home. Cowher rallied the troops after that game. I suspect alot of the motivation came from Cincy and the Who Dey bs that they pulled after the game at Heinz Field.

Congrats to Cincy and their Division title. I'd take 2nd place AFC North and World Champs any day! Best of all the Steelers play that 2nd place schedule next year (getting Miami and Jax) while Cincy plays the first place schedule (NE & Indy).

Here's to a budding rivalry (if Palmer returns healthy)! Love to see a Steelers/Bengals Thursday night game to open 2006.
Agreed.
 
It's amazing how touchy Steelers fans are. I sense a bit of fear for their future. Perhaps you are starting to see the transition take place. I'm done with this thread, its not even March. Let the games begin.
This made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that today. :thumbup: :lmao:
Easily amused I guess.
Don't take this the wrong way, because it really is said with a smile on my face. But do you really that any team that beat another team 2 out of 3 times in a season and then went on to win the SB would be fearing that team? Think about it.
Yes.
And they call me a homer. ;)
 
In fact, I didn't even SAY that they lost because of officiating, I only said that the officiating was horrendously one-sided, which the vast majority of people who actually watched the game agree on. 
"vast majority" is your opinionSee this thread for pinequick's posts on the validity of Internet polling.

As to the claim others have made concerning the majority of the media..., see my post from that thread:

Honestly I don't know why you keep defending the officiating.  Your statements about the one bad call (Hasselbeck chop block) and the fact that some people in this forum are with you really don't matter.  The fact is that a majority of the national media, and a majority of the fans (ESPN poll with 208k votes) believed the officiating was bad.  You can't control public opinion or the opinion of the media. 
DD,I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. If you feel the officiating was bad, or even terrible, that's your opinion. But when you state the "majority" of the media and fans believes that, I can disagree.

I'll let pinequick's earlier posts speak to the validity of Internet polls. (Note he is a Cowboy fan who dislikes the Steelers.)

As to the media, I've made quick visits to one newspaper from each NFL city. Nearly one quarter of the sites required registration or were not archiving articles, so I ignored them. I also stayed out of Seattle and Pittsburgh. Out of the remaining 20 or so cities, I saw only four that specifically questioned the officiating. Those are New York, Chicago, Boston and Kansas City. Even in those papers, it was not a unanimous opinion.

So I don't think the majority of the media believes the officiating was bad. What I did see was:

The same articles from Chicago and New York being reprinted in a few of the other papers.

Many articles talking about how Holmgren and/or the Seahawks believe the officiating was bad.

An article talking about the media hyping the officiating as bad (Detroit)

Stories reporting that the NFL said the officiating was proper.

None of those advance your opinion that the majority of the media agrees the officiating was bad. Even on ESPN, you will see differing opinions. So what I see is ESPN and large cities being outspoken and promoting controversy by claiming the officiating was terrible. What a shock! However, when you look at the media as a whole, it's simply not a majority.

Edit to add: In many cases, the coverage looks like this. A couple of excerpts:

Even his critics around the NFL admit that Titans Coach Jeff Fisher knows the rulebook as well as any of his peers.

Fisher, who is co-chairman of the NFL Competition Committee, conceded yesterday that the league had a tough weekend officiating-wise on Jan. 14-15 in the Divisional Playoffs. But he said he thinks much of the debate over officiating in Super Bowl XL was a result of the extensive media coverage of the game.
Fisher on some of the controversial calls in Super Bowl XL:

• Offensive pass interference against Seattle wide receiver Darrell Jackson that washed away a 16-yard touchdown catch: "Offensive pass interference is called when a receiver extends the arm and initiates contact resulting in separation between he and the defender. In my opinion that was the correct call. Now the difficulty with the call is you certainly can go in and look at other instances where there is separation where it's not called. Well, oftentimes it's not seen. But as the interpretation of the rule is concerned, that is offensive pass interference."

• Pittsburgh QB Ben Roethlisberger's touchdown plunge that was upheld by replay review: "The issue is not officiating, the issue is replay. The call went to review and because there was not indisputable evidence under the hood, the ruling on the field stood. Most times in a challenge situation that's going to be the case. It's not going to be reversed because there is not overwhelming, indisputable evidence.

"In the official's opinion the ball crossed the plane. We can't say based on the replays we got on the network feed that it didn't. Maybe it didn't, but you can't say that. It wasn't a situation where the ball ended up a yard short of the goal line and it was a disastrous type call. That was a very close call."

• Holding call against Seattle OT Sean Locklear that washed away an 18-yard pass: "By definition it's a hold. There is contact, there was a grab, there was restriction."
 
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It's amazing how touchy Steelers fans are.  I sense a bit of fear for their future.  Perhaps you are starting to see the transition take place. I'm done with this thread, its not even March.  Let the games begin.
This made me laugh out loud. Thanks, I needed that today. :thumbup: :lmao:
Easily amused I guess.
The Bungles have been making people :lmao: for many, many years.... :yes:
 
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I’m mad they won (the Super Bowl) with the help of the referees,” Houshmandzadeh said. “But it doesn’t matter. It’s all in fun. I don’t know if they think we’re the best team they played, or if the Seahawks, or Colts, or Broncos just don’t have a cheer.”

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I guess Joe Bryant was crying for the Bengals when he said that the refereeing was one-sided too then, huh? And roughly 66% of non-partisan fans who agree with that sentiment as well?Turn off the blinders dude.
Blinders or not, maybe I'm just not big on excuses. Anyone who wants to can complain about the referees, but the Steelers won the Super Bowl, and no amount of griping can change that. Doing so after the fact just makes you look petty, and quite frankly, like a loser.Losers make excuses. Winners overcome obstacles. This applies to every aspect of life, not just football. People who want to logically discuss the various calls in the Super Bowl, like Joe did, are fine by me. People who talk about asterisks, bias, and fixes, are just reaching, and really quite pathetic. That's why I hated Holmgren's comment - he's just giving his team an excuse as to why they lost instead of asking them to look inside themselves and ask what they could have done better. The latter course of action helps you become a better team, the former does not.
I've never ever EVER been one to use officiating as an excuse for losing. I could point out posts to you where I said the Polamalu non-INT in the Indy game was an absolute JOKE of a call, so it's not like I'm trying to make excuses for why they lost. In fact, I didn't even SAY that they lost because of officiating, I only said that the officiating was horrendously one-sided, which the vast majority of people who actually watched the game agree on. You can paint me as a loser if you want, I just think that you of all Steelers fans would be willing to acknowledge that the refereeing had an impact on this game. Not that the Seahawks won because of it.
No, no, no. That wasn't directed at you, I apologize if it sounded that way. When I said it makes "you" sound like a loser, I was referring to anyone griping about the officiating, not you personally.I also have admitted freely which calls I thought were right and wrong. I said Seattle got the short end of the stick, but for God's sake, it was nowhere NEAR as bad as many are making it out. Certainly no fix, which is absurd, and not the reason Seattle lost. Seahwaks had too many execution problems to win that game. I don't see many Steeler fans saying the officiating DIDN'T impact the game. The reason why you're seeing pissed-off Steeler fans is because of the few jackalopes out there who are intentionally egging us all on with this preposterous asterisk talk. I've seen FAR worse officiated games than this one - I've seen worse this season, hell, I've seen worse in the PLAYOFFS this season. It's time to stop making excuses. Most of those calls were proper calls.

And presonally, I don't care what the vast majority of people think. the vast majority of people are going to agree with whatever Michaels and Madden said on the broadcast. Madden said he didn't see a hold on the Locklear play, so now it isn't a hold. I've watched the video 100 times now and I think it would have been a sack if Locklear hadn't brought Haggans down from behind. It was a hold. If Madden had agreed with the call during the broadcast, no one but Seahawk fans and bettors would give a wet fart about that call right now.

People are sheep - I certainly am not going to base my perception of what went on based on what someone's Uncle Rufus in Oklahoma clicked on on ESPN.com.

 

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