What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

CPAP machines (2 Viewers)

Have you ever used a CPAP machine?

  • Yes

    Votes: 122 34.3%
  • No

    Votes: 234 65.7%

  • Total voters
    356
Some interesting info I stumbled upon when researching OSA. This info in a few years old, but I figured it may be of interest to some of you who have sleep apnea and use CPAPs....I mean, it doesnt cost a dime to try...do a google search for "throat tongue exercises sleep apnea" and you will get a ton of hits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/health/25real.html

Throat Exercises Can Relieve Sleep Apnea (and snoring)

For people suffering from sleep apnea, specialized breathing machines are the standard treatment.

The machines use a method called continuous positive airway pressure, or CPAP, which keeps the airway open and relieves potentially dangerous pauses in breathing during the night. But the machines are expensive, and some people complain that the mask and headgear cause uncomfortable side effects, like congestion.

One free and fairly simple alternative may be exercises that strengthen the throat. While they aren’t as established or as well studied as breathing machines, some research suggests they may reduce the severity of sleep apnea by building up muscles around the airway, making them less likely to collapse at night.

In a study published last year in The American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, scientists recruited a group of people with obstructive sleep apnea and split them into two groups. One was trained to do breathing exercises daily, while the other did 30 minutes of throat exercises, including swallowing and chewing motions, placing the tip of the tongue against the front of the palate and sliding it back, and pronouncing certain vowels quickly and continuously.

After three months, subjects who did the throat exercises snored less, slept better and reduced the severity of their condition by 39 percent. They also showed reductions in neck circumference, a known risk factor for apnea. The control group showed almost no improvement.

Other randomized studies have found similar effects. One even showed that playing instruments that strengthen the airways, like the didgeridoo, can ease sleep apnea.

--------------------------------------------------------

Heres a youtube video made by a doctor in Hawaii that shows some daily throat/tongue exercises you can do to supposedly stop sleep apnea and snoring:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJysIYGbLc

This could all be bunk...but actual studies have shown that it can help...just look around for different videos/atricles that show or explain different exercises...ya never know. I snore like a Wildebeest, and sometimes wake in the night gasping for air...pretty sure I have OSA...Ive been doing some of the exercises in the above video for about a week, as well as a few others Ive found, and it could be all in my head, but I feel like I may not be snoring as much or heavy as I usually do...and I also havent been waking in my sleep as much as I normally do...I also have been feeling more refreshed when I wake up, so maybe theyre actually working a bit.

:shrug:

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Also, what I thought was weak about the sleep study is they basically hook up the equipment so you HAVE to sleep on your back. I never sleep on my back, I don't find it comfortable. Sleeping on your back obviously makes your test numbers high.
Yea I slept 89 minutes or something with 82 events (or something like that). They said it was mild.
82 events in an hour and a half is not even remotely mild. Either you misunderstood the "82" or the "mild".

Seen a couple of posts about ramp. I never use ramp but my machine does sense when I'm exhaling and automatically backs off for me. It's not a Bi-Pap, it's a CPAP with exhalation relief. Anyone that feels like they are being smothered should look into this. I know exactly what they mean because my sleep study didn't have it and I was surprised I was able to get to sleep.

I'm a mouth breather, but I do use the nasal pillows. They are a little rough on the nostrils but it toughens up and is worth the adjustment. But I do have to wear a strap on my chin to keep my mouth closed. But it's worth it, nose pillows are the best for side sleeping.

Been on this for a number of years and can't sleep without it. You aren't just snoring, you're killing yourself. Think about it. You spend the entire night fighting for breath and instead of rest your heart beats like a mother all night.

 
Also, what I thought was weak about the sleep study is they basically hook up the equipment so you HAVE to sleep on your back. I never sleep on my back, I don't find it comfortable. Sleeping on your back obviously makes your test numbers high.
Yea I slept 89 minutes or something with 82 events (or something like that). They said it was mild.
82 events in an hour and a half is not even remotely mild. Either you misunderstood the "82" or the "mild".Seen a couple of posts about ramp. I never use ramp but my machine does sense when I'm exhaling and automatically backs off for me. It's not a Bi-Pap, it's a CPAP with exhalation relief. Anyone that feels like they are being smothered should look into this. I know exactly what they mean because my sleep study didn't have it and I was surprised I was able to get to sleep.

I'm a mouth breather, but I do use the nasal pillows. They are a little rough on the nostrils but it toughens up and is worth the adjustment. But I do have to wear a strap on my chin to keep my mouth closed. But it's worth it, nose pillows are the best for side sleeping.

Been on this for a number of years and can't sleep without it. You aren't just snoring, you're killing yourself. Think about it. You spend the entire night fighting for breath and instead of rest your heart beats like a mother all night.
They said people have like 200 in an hour. :shrug:

 
I have a buddy that got a bare bones machine and a crappy mask about 7 years ago and it made a pretty good door stop. About 6 months ago I convinced him to give it another try, but this time he specified that he wanted the exhale relief and he tried the nasal pillows. He's hooked now.

You gotta educate yourself on this stuff. Your DME isn't always going to be looking out for your best interest if they can make more money by sticking you with a basic blower.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I use mine nightly. What sucks is I breathe better without it, but if I don't use it, I snore instantly.

I ordered a new mask that is still nose pillows, but reviews say its more comfortable. My nose has been getting torn up of late.

I def will be looking into those exercises.

 
Just an FYI, but I switched mask and hose a few months backand it gave too much pressure when I exhaled. I ended up getting vertigo for 2 weeks.

DON'T EVER GET VERTIGO!!!! It will literally turn your world upside down.

 
Just an FYI, but I switched mask and hose a few months backand it gave too much pressure when I exhaled. I ended up getting vertigo for 2 weeks.

DON'T EVER GET VERTIGO!!!! It will literally turn your world upside down.
That's a terrible thing to have.
 
Anyone have trouble with the machine making you burp and/or fart? I wake up around 3 in the morning and my stomach is painfully bloated. Sit up straight for a minute then start releasing some world-class belches . Sometimes burping doesn't clear all the air and it comes out the other end.

I breathe through my mouth so I figure there's a lot of air getting swallowed. Some nights it's funny, sometimes it just hurts.

 
Not supposed to breath through your mouth with the machine
This. Dries the crap out of everything. Bad for your teeth. They make pretty comfortable chin straps that will help you keep your mouth closed. Unless you physically can not breathe through your nose, you probably should try that. Some people even tape their mouths shut. 3M makes a pretty strong "Micropore" tape that certainly works but I'd much rather use a chin strap.

Anyone has trouble with their nose being too sensitive for nasal pillows, you might want to try Lansinoh Lanolin. It's actually for breastfeeding mothers to use on their nipples... :P But hey, it helps alleviate the soreness and actually helps you get a better seal. Eventually your nares will toughen up and you won't need it anymore.

 
If your machine doesn't have exhale relief and you are having trouble breathing against the pressure, you really should check on one. When I was at the sleep clinic they came in on the first night and put me on a machine that did not have exhale relief. I layed there feeling suffocated and figured I'd just lie there until my time was up and then tell them "nope, can't do that". But eventually I fell asleep and slept so well the tech let me sleep an extra two hours (she knew from my apnea I probably hadn't slept that well in decades). When I woke up I felt incredible.

So knowing I would be getting a CPAP I started doing my research and saw that some machines have exhale relief (this isn't ramp, this is the machine sensing you are exhaling and backing off). I was on my own nickel so I got what I wanted off the internet. It took me about a month to really get acclimated, but now I never go without it. In fact, it's so nice to be able to breathe though my nose while sleeping that I can honestly say that if I somehow was cured of sleep apnea I would still sleep using this CPAP machine.

By the way, I've tried ramp and don't like it at all. Ramp is too hard for me to breathe through the machine.

 
Not supposed to breath through your mouth with the machine
This. Dries the crap out of everything. Bad for your teeth. They make pretty comfortable chin straps that will help you keep your mouth closed. Unless you physically can not breathe through your nose, you probably should try that. Some people even tape their mouths shut. 3M makes a pretty strong "Micropore" tape that certainly works but I'd much rather use a chin strap.

Anyone has trouble with their nose being too sensitive for nasal pillows, you might want to try Lansinoh Lanolin. It's actually for breastfeeding mothers to use on their nipples... :P But hey, it helps alleviate the soreness and actually helps you get a better seal. Eventually your nares will toughen up and you won't need it anymore.
I have never heard this.

 
flapgreen said:
pizzatyme said:
Just an FYI, but I switched mask and hose a few months backand it gave too much pressure when I exhaled. I ended up getting vertigo for 2 weeks.

DON'T EVER GET VERTIGO!!!! It will literally turn your world upside down.
That's a terrible thing to have.
My old man has it... it's extremely hard for him to drive or ride in a car or go anywhere with background noise. He pretty much stays home all day now.

 
flapgreen said:
pizzatyme said:
Just an FYI, but I switched mask and hose a few months backand it gave too much pressure when I exhaled. I ended up getting vertigo for 2 weeks.

DON'T EVER GET VERTIGO!!!! It will literally turn your world upside down.
That's a terrible thing to have.
My old man has it... it's extremely hard for him to drive or ride in a car or go anywhere with background noise. He pretty much stays home all day now.
A friend of mine's wife had it. It was horrible. They did something where they manipulate "crystals" in the inner ear with therapy. It solved the problem.

 
Not supposed to breath through your mouth with the machine
My nose only works at about 20% efficiency. Even after surgery for a deviated septum I'm still a mouth-breather. That's why I got the full-face mask instead of just the nose thingy. Plus, it makes me feel like a fighter pilot.

 
This is the machine I have.

Is this one considered good? Been using it for like 9 months, no problems. Regarding the ramp thing, the tech that came out and showed me it said not to touch the feature, that it is remotely controlled by the place I got it from.

 
This is the machine I have.

Is this one considered good? Been using it for like 9 months, no problems. Regarding the ramp thing, the tech that came out and showed me it said not to touch the feature, that it is remotely controlled by the place I got it from.
Yeah, I think that one is very good. Looks like it's got the technology that senses you are exhaling which I'm really a proponent of. My backup/travel machine (very cheap) doesn't have it but I've been on CPAP long enough that it's not as crucial for me as it was when I was first starting.

I'm not big on being told not to touch anything on MY machine. I not only can adjust and turn off my ramp, but I can even adjust my pressure. Dig around and you can fine the "secret" to getting on there and making adjustments. I don't mess with the pressure, but if I wasn't getting decent AHI #'s I'd certainly adjust to see if my titration had changed due to age or weight.

 
Not supposed to breath through your mouth with the machine
My nose only works at about 20% efficiency. Even after surgery for a deviated septum I'm still a mouth-breather. That's why I got the full-face mask instead of just the nose thingy. Plus, it makes me feel like a fighter pilot.
Not sure what my % efficiency is but I'm definitely a mouth breather if I don't have cpap pushing the air through via nose pillows. Even if I'm congested the moist air can usually push through. I have a fighter pilot mask for times when I'm just too stopped up to use nose pillows. Only needed twice in the last 4 or 5 years.

 
This is the machine I have.

Is this one considered good? Been using it for like 9 months, no problems. Regarding the ramp thing, the tech that came out and showed me it said not to touch the feature, that it is remotely controlled by the place I got it from.
Yeah, I think that one is very good. Looks like it's got the technology that senses you are exhaling which I'm really a proponent of. My backup/travel machine (very cheap) doesn't have it but I've been on CPAP long enough that it's not as crucial for me as it was when I was first starting.I'm not big on being told not to touch anything on MY machine. I not only can adjust and turn off my ramp, but I can even adjust my pressure. Dig around and you can fine the "secret" to getting on there and making adjustments. I don't mess with the pressure, but if I wasn't getting decent AHI #'s I'd certainly adjust to see if my titration had changed due to age or weight.
They didn't say it was against the rules, or it would void anything, nothing like that, if I played with the ramp feature. It has a wireless thing that plugs into it and their techs monitor the usage and adjust according to my breathing. I really don't mind, as I haven't really encountered any problems. My AHI is usually right around 0 when using the machine.

 
Just an FYI, but I switched mask and hose a few months backand it gave too much pressure when I exhaled. I ended up getting vertigo for 2 weeks.

DON'T EVER GET VERTIGO!!!! It will literally turn your world upside down.
That's a terrible thing to have.
My old man has it... it's extremely hard for him to drive or ride in a car or go anywhere with background noise. He pretty much stays home all day now.
A friend of mine's wife had it. It was horrible. They did something where they manipulate "crystals" in the inner ear with therapy. It solved the problem.
I had benign positional vertigo, which is where these particles in inner ear get displaced. The solution is brutal because you basically have to cause the symptoms to happen as part of the cure. It took about a month of making myself nauseous twice a day, but it worked.

 
I'm not big on being told not to touch anything on MY machine. I not only can adjust and turn off my ramp, but I can even adjust my pressure. Dig around and you can fine the "secret" to getting on there and making adjustments. I don't mess with the pressure, but if I wasn't getting decent AHI #'s I'd certainly adjust to see if my titration had changed due to age or weight.
They didn't say it was against the rules, or it would void anything, nothing like that, if I played with the ramp feature. It has a wireless thing that plugs into it and their techs monitor the usage and adjust according to my breathing. I really don't mind, as I haven't really encountered any problems. My AHI is usually right around 0 when using the machine.
Can't beat zero... :)

Yeah, if it ain't broke don't fix it. And if you asked them I'm sure they would have no problem adjusting ramp for you, but if you don't mind ramp then you're all set.

 
Just an FYI, but I switched mask and hose a few months backand it gave too much pressure when I exhaled. I ended up getting vertigo for 2 weeks.

DON'T EVER GET VERTIGO!!!! It will literally turn your world upside down.
That's a terrible thing to have.
My old man has it... it's extremely hard for him to drive or ride in a car or go anywhere with background noise. He pretty much stays home all day now.
A friend of mine's wife had it. It was horrible. They did something where they manipulate "crystals" in the inner ear with therapy. It solved the problem.
I had benign positional vertigo, which is where these particles in inner ear get displaced. The solution is brutal because you basically have to cause the symptoms to happen as part of the cure. It took about a month of making myself nauseous twice a day, but it worked.
Yep. I work with patients frequently with that issue. The therapy is rough but it works. It will change your life.
 
Just got my machine yesterday and used it for the first time last night. I have the same machine that Copeman posted earlier, and I got the nose pillows. It wasn't bad at all, really. It sucks sleeping on my back/side because I have been a stomach sleeper my whole life, but I think I can handle that.

I slept great and my wife said I didn't snore at all, so that's a pretty good first night.

 
I've been going to sleep every night with the full mask on but after a few hours I can't handle it. Sometimes it's because the seal gets jacked up. It's also either too dry or moist. I've tried it on "0" and also on "1".

Suggestions?

 
I've been going to sleep every night with the full mask on but after a few hours I can't handle it. Sometimes it's because the seal gets jacked up. It's also either too dry or moist. I've tried it on "0" and also on "1".

Suggestions?
Well I'm a total rookie at this, but have you tried the mask that just goes over your nose? It worked great for me last night.

 
Had anybody done an at home sleep study wih the portable monitor thingy that they send you and you mail back to them? seems more and more insurance companies are pushing for this kind of test vs the actual lab test.

 
I've been going to sleep every night with the full mask on but after a few hours I can't handle it. Sometimes it's because the seal gets jacked up. It's also either too dry or moist. I've tried it on "0" and also on "1".

Suggestions?
Well I'm a total rookie at this, but have you tried the mask that just goes over your nose? It worked great for me last night.
That's what I use
 
flapgreen said:
kutta said:
St. Louis Bob said:
I've been going to sleep every night with the full mask on but after a few hours I can't handle it. Sometimes it's because the seal gets jacked up. It's also either too dry or moist. I've tried it on "0" and also on "1".

Suggestions?
Well I'm a total rookie at this, but have you tried the mask that just goes over your nose? It worked great for me last night.
That's what I use
Yes I have one of those and it is much more comfortable. However I then begin breathing out of my house when sleeping and it feels like I've swallowed a bucket of sand.

 
I've been going to sleep every night with the full mask on but after a few hours I can't handle it. Sometimes it's because the seal gets jacked up. It's also either too dry or moist. I've tried it on "0" and also on "1".

Suggestions?
Well I'm a total rookie at this, but have you tried the mask that just goes over your nose? It worked great for me last night.
That's what I use
Yes I have one of those and it is much more comfortable. However I then begin breathing out of my house when sleeping and it feels like I've swallowed a bucket of sand.
Yeah, I'm a mouth breather. There are a few chinstraps out there and I think just about any of them are effective. Doesn't have to be tight. Just a gentle pressure does the trick for me and I never mouth breathe.

This is the one I use... http://www.cpap.com/productpage/cardinal-health-tiara-ruby-topaz-adjustable-chinstrap.html

In the case of too hot on your temp setting, is the air too hot or do you get condensation building up for a rude awakening with a dose of water? If you are getting condensation, then you might try getting a "hose snuggy" that is basically soft blanket for your hose. Aside from helping keep the hose warmer to prevent condensation, it also takes away the "hard feel" of the hose against your skin.

Here's an example... http://www.cpap.com/productpage/snuggle-hose-tube-cover.html

 
I've been going to sleep every night with the full mask on but after a few hours I can't handle it. Sometimes it's because the seal gets jacked up. It's also either too dry or moist. I've tried it on "0" and also on "1".

Suggestions?
Well I'm a total rookie at this, but have you tried the mask that just goes over your nose? It worked great for me last night.
That's what I use
Yes I have one of those and it is much more comfortable. However I then begin breathing out of my house when sleeping and it feels like I've swallowed a bucket of sand.
Yeah, I'm a mouth breather. There are a few chinstraps out there and I think just about any of them are effective. Doesn't have to be tight. Just a gentle pressure does the trick for me and I never mouth breathe.

This is the one I use... http://www.cpap.com/productpage/cardinal-health-tiara-ruby-topaz-adjustable-chinstrap.html

In the case of too hot on your temp setting, is the air too hot or do you get condensation building up for a rude awakening with a dose of water? If you are getting condensation, then you might try getting a "hose snuggy" that is basically soft blanket for your hose. Aside from helping keep the hose warmer to prevent condensation, it also takes away the "hard feel" of the hose against your skin.

Here's an example... http://www.cpap.com/productpage/snuggle-hose-tube-cover.html
Funny, I meant to update, and I appreciate your suggestions.

I found a website that has the instructions on how to adjust the machine from where the company I got it from had it set. I realize this wasn't an arbitrary number but the pressure was just too high for me to sleep. So I put it on 8.5 instead of 10 and have been able to sleep with it ever since. Still get a tickle now and again and can't have any moisture because the condenstation builds up. I'm going to try it like this for awhile and will eventually try putting it back on 10 to see if I can still sleep with it.

 
I've had mine for a couple weeks now. The first few days were a bit tough getting to sleep but I popped some Advil PM and that really helped. Now it's not a problem at all. I am actually kind of liking it. I find I sleep pretty darn good with it.

The only problem is that once I wake up in the morning, I'm up. It's really hard to doze back to sleep with it on. But that's OK because I get up early anyway.

I have a very low pressure setting (6, where the lowest is 5) so it hasn't been too bad. It has totally stopped my snoring though, even after drinks.

 
I can't use it when I have any kind of congestion, primarily a stuffy nose. Just can't breath for obvious reasons. I've had to take mine off in the middle of the night now for about 2 weeks straight. Maybe I should ask my provider to send a mask where I can breathe through my mouth.

 
I can't use it when I have any kind of congestion, primarily a stuffy nose. Just can't breath for obvious reasons. I've had to take mine off in the middle of the night now for about 2 weeks straight. Maybe I should ask my provider to send a mask where I can breathe through my mouth.
I would reccomend that. I'll also use nose spray at least an hour before I go to bed if I feel congested.

 
I've had mine for a couple weeks now. The first few days were a bit tough getting to sleep but I popped some Advil PM and that really helped. Now it's not a problem at all. I am actually kind of liking it. I find I sleep pretty darn good with it.

The only problem is that once I wake up in the morning, I'm up. It's really hard to doze back to sleep with it on. But that's OK because I get up early anyway.

I have a very low pressure setting (6, where the lowest is 5) so it hasn't been too bad. It has totally stopped my snoring though, even after drinks.
I tried taking Ambien and still couldn't sleep with it. Lowering the pressure was key for me.

 
I have used a CPAP for over 10 years. I recently lost 30+ pounds and no longer need it. My snoring has stopped and I no longer have bouts of not breathing during the night.

 
I've been going to sleep every night with the full mask on but after a few hours I can't handle it. Sometimes it's because the seal gets jacked up. It's also either too dry or moist. I've tried it on "0" and also on "1".

Suggestions?
Well I'm a total rookie at this, but have you tried the mask that just goes over your nose? It worked great for me last night.
That's what I use
Yes I have one of those and it is much more comfortable. However I then begin breathing out of my house when sleeping and it feels like I've swallowed a bucket of sand.
I have this same problem. Someone said they have chin straps to keep your mouth closed. I'm going to look into that.

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top