CPAP machines (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

Eat enough fiber and this should be a non issue.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Eat enough fiber and this should be a non issue.

You are hooking up the machine to the wrong area of your body.

 

[Thorn]

Eat enough fiber and this should be a non issue.

 

[Dentist]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.

And he is a lardass

But he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?

I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

 

[Raider Nation]

Could NOT get to sleep with this thing on. Tried it for 2 weeks. Finally opted for the surgery where they ripped out everything in my throat. The pain is so bad immediately after the surgery that you pretty much want to kill yourself, but once the pain goes away... happiness ensues.

Details, plz.

It's a common surgery for people who can't deal with the CPAP. They remove your tonsils and adenoids, then shave down the uvula to open up things up in order to breathe better. The sleep apnea episodes are due to irregular breathing patterns, which affects sleep and cause fatigue during the day. So I just decided to clear the passage way instead of having to wear that thing forever.Had I known in advance how much pain was involved, I would have had to think long and hard about it. Even with painkillers, this was beyond intense. Ridiculous throat pain for about 10 days. All you can eat is soup and ice cream, and nothing eases the discomfort. Incidentally, for the people saying that they have used a CPAP for years, I assume that most of you have always slept on your back? I can't do that. Just not comfortable. The apparatus itself is an amazing thing, but trying to get to sleep on your stomach while wearing that is impossible, and it's even annoying when laying on your side.

 

[theprince]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.And he is a lardassBut he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

 

[Thorn]

Could NOT get to sleep with this thing on. Tried it for 2 weeks. Finally opted for the surgery where they ripped out everything in my throat. The pain is so bad immediately after the surgery that you pretty much want to kill yourself, but once the pain goes away... happiness ensues.

Details, plz.

It's a common surgery for people who can't deal with the CPAP. They remove your tonsils and adenoids, then shave down the uvula to open up things up in order to breathe better. The sleep apnea episodes are due to irregular breathing patterns, which affects sleep and cause fatigue during the day. So I just decided to clear the passage way instead of having to wear that thing forever.Had I known in advance how much pain was involved, I would have had to think long and hard about it. Even with painkillers, this was beyond intense. Ridiculous throat pain for about 10 days. All you can eat is soup and ice cream, and nothing eases the discomfort. Incidentally, for the people saying that they have used a CPAP for years, I assume that most of you have always slept on your back? I can't do that. Just not comfortable. The apparatus itself is an amazing thing, but trying to get to sleep on your stomach while wearing that is impossible, and it's even annoying when laying on your side.

I had a consultation about the different types of surgery since I'm still struggling with the machine. They did make the different surgeries sound very aggressive. Plus I'm convinced that my problem isn't in the throat/tonsil area but that my tongue just sits too high in my mouth, which makes me think the surgeries might not work.

 

[Dentist]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.And he is a lardassBut he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

i'd buy one for him without question... but from what i've heard if they aren't set right they can be damaging.... is this true? which is why you have to get the sleep study and stuff

 

[Raider Nation]

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst.

It sucks beyond words.I'm on the road a lot for my work. Day after day, I would catch myself almost falling asleep while driving. Finally decided to go for a sleep study before I ended up killing myself or someone else.

 

[Raider Nation]

Could NOT get to sleep with this thing on. Tried it for 2 weeks. Finally opted for the surgery where they ripped out everything in my throat. The pain is so bad immediately after the surgery that you pretty much want to kill yourself, but once the pain goes away... happiness ensues.

Details, plz.

It's a common surgery for people who can't deal with the CPAP. They remove your tonsils and adenoids, then shave down the uvula to open up things up in order to breathe better. The sleep apnea episodes are due to irregular breathing patterns, which affects sleep and cause fatigue during the day. So I just decided to clear the passage way instead of having to wear that thing forever.Had I known in advance how much pain was involved, I would have had to think long and hard about it. Even with painkillers, this was beyond intense. Ridiculous throat pain for about 10 days. All you can eat is soup and ice cream, and nothing eases the discomfort.

Incidentally, for the people saying that they have used a CPAP for years, I assume that most of you have always slept on your back? I can't do that. Just not comfortable. The apparatus itself is an amazing thing, but trying to get to sleep on your stomach while wearing that is impossible, and it's even annoying when laying on your side.

I had a consultation about the different types of surgery since I'm still struggling with the machine. They did make the different surgeries sound very aggressive. Plus I'm convinced that my problem isn't in the throat/tonsil area but that my tongue just sits too high in my mouth, which makes me think the surgeries might not work.

So you've been examined already? Did the ENT guy disagree with your assessment?

 

[Thorn]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.And he is a lardassBut he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

i'd buy one for him without question... but from what i've heard if they aren't set right they can be damaging.... is this true? which is why you have to get the sleep study and stuff

Yea they have to figure out how much pressure you need while you're at the sleep study. Too little = ineffective, but too much can actually confuse your systems and cause worse apnea.

 

[Dentist]

Could NOT get to sleep with this thing on. Tried it for 2 weeks. Finally opted for the surgery where they ripped out everything in my throat. The pain is so bad immediately after the surgery that you pretty much want to kill yourself, but once the pain goes away... happiness ensues.

Details, plz.

It's a common surgery for people who can't deal with the CPAP. They remove your tonsils and adenoids, then shave down the uvula to open up things up in order to breathe better. The sleep apnea episodes are due to irregular breathing patterns, which affects sleep and cause fatigue during the day. So I just decided to clear the passage way instead of having to wear that thing forever.Had I known in advance how much pain was involved, I would have had to think long and hard about it. Even with painkillers, this was beyond intense. Ridiculous throat pain for about 10 days. All you can eat is soup and ice cream, and nothing eases the discomfort. Incidentally, for the people saying that they have used a CPAP for years, I assume that most of you have always slept on your back? I can't do that. Just not comfortable. The apparatus itself is an amazing thing, but trying to get to sleep on your stomach while wearing that is impossible, and it's even annoying when laying on your side.

I had a consultation about the different types of surgery since I'm still struggling with the machine. They did make the different surgeries sound very aggressive. Plus I'm convinced that my problem isn't in the throat/tonsil area but that my tongue just sits too high in my mouth, which makes me think the surgeries might not work.

might want to try a dental mouthpiece then first... that's exactly what those do... chin thrust to shift tongue positionwarning: not cheap and pain in the butt to wear

 

[theprince]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.And he is a lardassBut he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

i'd buy one for him without question... but from what i've heard if they aren't set right they can be damaging.... is this true? which is why you have to get the sleep study and stuff

They say you need to get the machine set right, but I'm not sure how important that is. You just need it to pump oxygen in your nose. That said, he should do a sleep study.

 

[theprince]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.And he is a lardassBut he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

i'd buy one for him without question... but from what i've heard if they aren't set right they can be damaging.... is this true? which is why you have to get the sleep study and stuff

Yea they have to figure out how much pressure you need while you're at the sleep study. Too little = ineffective, but too much can actually confuse your systems and cause worse apnea.

Crap. Hope I'm not doing it wrong!

 

[Thorn]

Could NOT get to sleep with this thing on. Tried it for 2 weeks. Finally opted for the surgery where they ripped out everything in my throat. The pain is so bad immediately after the surgery that you pretty much want to kill yourself, but once the pain goes away... happiness ensues.

Details, plz.

It's a common surgery for people who can't deal with the CPAP. They remove your tonsils and adenoids, then shave down the uvula to open up things up in order to breathe better. The sleep apnea episodes are due to irregular breathing patterns, which affects sleep and cause fatigue during the day. So I just decided to clear the passage way instead of having to wear that thing forever.Had I known in advance how much pain was involved, I would have had to think long and hard about it. Even with painkillers, this was beyond intense. Ridiculous throat pain for about 10 days. All you can eat is soup and ice cream, and nothing eases the discomfort.

Incidentally, for the people saying that they have used a CPAP for years, I assume that most of you have always slept on your back? I can't do that. Just not comfortable. The apparatus itself is an amazing thing, but trying to get to sleep on your stomach while wearing that is impossible, and it's even annoying when laying on your side.

I had a consultation about the different types of surgery since I'm still struggling with the machine. They did make the different surgeries sound very aggressive. Plus I'm convinced that my problem isn't in the throat/tonsil area but that my tongue just sits too high in my mouth, which makes me think the surgeries might not work.

So you've been examined already? Did the ENT guy disagree with your assessment?

He didn't want to agree or disagree. He sort of left the ball in my court to keep working with the CPAP (trying different pressures), and looking into an appliance. When the prosthodontist explained how the appliance worked, however, I had the same concern - it tries to manipulate the jaw forward, and I don't think that will solve my problem. My onset of symptomatic apnea roughly coincides with my second jaw surgery, which I think changed the anatomy of how my tongue sits in my mouth. So I'm still working on CPAP, but so far we haven't been able to get to the magic >5 incidents per hour. It is better (usually 8-12, whereas pre-CPAP I tested in the 20s). I think I want to invent a new appliance that includes a tongue depressor.

 

[Raider Nation]

Dentist... OT a bit. I bought the best mouth guard that Walgreens had. It was $50 or so and looks really sturdy. My dentist said I apparently grind my teeth at night (and also during the day when I'm stressed) and he said while this thing is okay, he recommended I buy the one he makes. He'll mold it to my mouth and blah blah blah.

I just want to know if his claim is accurate. Is a dentist's mouth guard WAY better than a store-bought one?

 

[Thorn]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.And he is a lardassBut he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

i'd buy one for him without question... but from what i've heard if they aren't set right they can be damaging.... is this true? which is why you have to get the sleep study and stuff

Yea they have to figure out how much pressure you need while you're at the sleep study. Too little = ineffective, but too much can actually confuse your systems and cause worse apnea.

Crap. Hope I'm not doing it wrong!

Does your machine give you the readout? On mine I can look each morning and it will tell me my numbers. If you are set at too high a pressure, you'd see an increase of central apneas (brain is confused).

 

[Thorn]

Could NOT get to sleep with this thing on. Tried it for 2 weeks. Finally opted for the surgery where they ripped out everything in my throat. The pain is so bad immediately after the surgery that you pretty much want to kill yourself, but once the pain goes away... happiness ensues.

Details, plz.

It's a common surgery for people who can't deal with the CPAP. They remove your tonsils and adenoids, then shave down the uvula to open up things up in order to breathe better. The sleep apnea episodes are due to irregular breathing patterns, which affects sleep and cause fatigue during the day. So I just decided to clear the passage way instead of having to wear that thing forever.Had I known in advance how much pain was involved, I would have had to think long and hard about it. Even with painkillers, this was beyond intense. Ridiculous throat pain for about 10 days. All you can eat is soup and ice cream, and nothing eases the discomfort. Incidentally, for the people saying that they have used a CPAP for years, I assume that most of you have always slept on your back? I can't do that. Just not comfortable. The apparatus itself is an amazing thing, but trying to get to sleep on your stomach while wearing that is impossible, and it's even annoying when laying on your side.

I had a consultation about the different types of surgery since I'm still struggling with the machine. They did make the different surgeries sound very aggressive. Plus I'm convinced that my problem isn't in the throat/tonsil area but that my tongue just sits too high in my mouth, which makes me think the surgeries might not work.

might want to try a dental mouthpiece then first... that's exactly what those do... chin thrust to shift tongue positionwarning: not cheap and pain in the butt to wear

Yea I consulted with a prosthodontist (sp?) too, but I don't have much confidence that I will move my tongue enough. I may still try that route if I can't get better results from the machine.

 

[Raider Nation]

Man, Thorn... that's rough. Good luck with whatever you decide. BUMP this thread when you do.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Never would have guessed that 26% use or have used a CPAP.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Could NOT get to sleep with this thing on. Tried it for 2 weeks. Finally opted for the surgery where they ripped out everything in my throat. The pain is so bad immediately after the surgery that you pretty much want to kill yourself, but once the pain goes away... happiness ensues.

Details, plz.

It's a common surgery for people who can't deal with the CPAP. They remove your tonsils and adenoids, then shave down the uvula to open up things up in order to breathe better. The sleep apnea episodes are due to irregular breathing patterns, which affects sleep and cause fatigue during the day. So I just decided to clear the passage way instead of having to wear that thing forever.Had I known in advance how much pain was involved, I would have had to think long and hard about it. Even with painkillers, this was beyond intense. Ridiculous throat pain for about 10 days. All you can eat is soup and ice cream, and nothing eases the discomfort. Incidentally, for the people saying that they have used a CPAP for years, I assume that most of you have always slept on your back? I can't do that. Just not comfortable. The apparatus itself is an amazing thing, but trying to get to sleep on your stomach while wearing that is impossible, and it's even annoying when laying on your side.

There are different masks. I can sleep on my stomach and side just fine, although stomach can be an issue at times. My new mask has had some issues staying on and I'm waking up as it has a bad seal at my nose sometimes, but I'm not waking up with an apnea type event, its more the noise from the leaking air that gets me.

 

[theprince]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.And he is a lardassBut he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

i'd buy one for him without question... but from what i've heard if they aren't set right they can be damaging.... is this true? which is why you have to get the sleep study and stuff

Yea they have to figure out how much pressure you need while you're at the sleep study. Too little = ineffective, but too much can actually confuse your systems and cause worse apnea.

Crap. Hope I'm not doing it wrong!

Does your machine give you the readout? On mine I can look each morning and it will tell me my numbers. If you are set at too high a pressure, you'd see an increase of central apneas (brain is confused).

Honestly, it has been so long since I have been to doctor about it that I don't even know how to check my results. Thanks for the heads up. I am going to find out.

 

[theprince]

RN - I have considered the surgery but thought I would be out of work for 6 weeks and that is just too long. Is that about the right time frame? And yes, if you wear CPap, you must sleep on your back which I enjoy.

 

[Dentist]

Dentist... OT a bit. I bought the best mouth guard that Walgreens had. It was $50 or so and looks really sturdy. My dentist said I apparently grind my teeth at night (and also during the day when I'm stressed) and he said while this thing is okay, he recommended I buy the one he makes. He'll mold it to my mouth and blah blah blah.

I just want to know if his claim is accurate. Is a dentist's mouth guard WAY better than a store-bought one?

Look, i know the dentists mouthguard seems ludicrous... we charge like $300-400 for these things and it's plastic and everyone thinks we're crazy.... so the average person balks at the price and tries some deal from walgreens.

Every dentist i've ever met goes round and round and round with this issue.

But the store ones are truly crap... you have to have one that's a hard plastic and that is custom built to work with your opposing teeth... and they cost so much because it takes me at LEAST an hour to make one of these things not to mention that you have to come for 2 visits and on the insertion visit it generally takes 20-30 min to make it.

So basically unless we're feeling REALLY altruistic, charging any less than that amount is just unprofitable.

And some guys send it out to a lab to get made and they'll charge the dentist $150-180 to get made so then there has to be some juice involved for fitting and impression taking and stuff.

And then to top it all off, if i make 100 of these things about 50 people will actually be compliant with them and the other 50 either won't give it much of a chance because they just aren't comfortable in it or they're just lazy.

the bottom line is that they do work.

But that they're one of the toughest sells in all of dentistry and then have low compliance on top of that.

So what do i see? i see people just slowly wear their teeth down little by little every year and then one day they wake up after some life changing event and look in the mirror and are like: "WTF happened to my teef, they look TERRIBLE.. all worn down!" and then it's like a $5000 project to rebuild them with crowns and veneers if you're LUCKY... i've seen people have that WTF moment and then all their teeth were so worn that they really needed a crown on every tooth for about 20K.

And then they can't afford it or won't afford it and live out the rest of their life depressed because they really just should've spent the $400 on teh mouthguard 10 years ago and worn it.

and then i feel like a real basspole because i just crushed all their hopes and dreams and you wonder why we have the highest suicide rate in the white collar world.... it's because dental disease is so slow that we can see trainwrecks coming MILES and MILES away and due to dental insurance being terrible and limiting and people thinking it's a cashgrab they deny recommendation after recommendation and then after all those years I have to witness the very trainwreck we warned people about YEARS ago.

yes, i've had a few drinks tonight

 

[Raider Nation]

RN - I have considered the surgery but thought I would be out of work for 6 weeks and that is just too long. Is that about the right time frame? And yes, if you wear CPap, you must sleep on your back which I enjoy.

I was out of work for 2 weeks, but I "rushed" back. Three and you should be fine.

 

[Raider Nation]

Thanks Dentist. I'll make an appointment tomorrow for that pro mouth guard.

 

[Dentist]

Thanks Dentist. I'll make an appointment tomorrow for that pro mouth guard.

let your dentist know to send dentist from teh internet my 10% commission$$

 

[Mr.Pack]

Could NOT get to sleep with this thing on. Tried it for 2 weeks. Finally opted for the surgery where they ripped out everything in my throat. The pain is so bad immediately after the surgery that you pretty much want to kill yourself, but once the pain goes away... happiness ensues.

Details, plz.

It's a common surgery for people who can't deal with the CPAP. They remove your tonsils and adenoids, then shave down the uvula to open up things up in order to breathe better. The sleep apnea episodes are due to irregular breathing patterns, which affects sleep and cause fatigue during the day. So I just decided to clear the passage way instead of having to wear that thing forever.Had I known in advance how much pain was involved, I would have had to think long and hard about it. Even with painkillers, this was beyond intense. Ridiculous throat pain for about 10 days. All you can eat is soup and ice cream, and nothing eases the discomfort.

Incidentally, for the people saying that they have used a CPAP for years, I assume that most of you have always slept on your back? I can't do that. Just not comfortable. The apparatus itself is an amazing thing, but trying to get to sleep on your stomach while wearing that is impossible, and it's even annoying when laying on your side.

I never could sleep on my back. I am a side sleeper and sometimes sleep with m face on the edge of the pillow. The mask makes it a little difficult to do that, but side sleeping is the easiest.

 

[Mr.Pack]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.And he is a lardassBut he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

Exactly. I drive 40 mins to wrk one way, and I could never make it home without pulling off the road at a park n ride to walk around a bit and drink a soda.My study showed that I stop breathing 120+ times an hour. I guess I'm a severe case.Twice I woke up, prior to the CPAP, where I was choking and had to crawl to the bathroom gasping for air. Pretty scary stuff.

 

[Parmcat]

Dentist... OT a bit. I bought the best mouth guard that Walgreens had. It was $50 or so and looks really sturdy. My dentist said I apparently grind my teeth at night (and also during the day when I'm stressed) and he said while this thing is okay, he recommended I buy the one he makes. He'll mold it to my mouth and blah blah blah.

I just want to know if his claim is accurate. Is a dentist's mouth guard WAY better than a store-bought one?

Look, i know the dentists mouthguard seems ludicrous... we charge like $300-400 for these things and it's plastic and everyone thinks we're crazy.... so the average person balks at the price and tries some deal from walgreens.

Every dentist i've ever met goes round and round and round with this issue.

But the store ones are truly crap... you have to have one that's a hard plastic and that is custom built to work with your opposing teeth... and they cost so much because it takes me at LEAST an hour to make one of these things not to mention that you have to come for 2 visits and on the insertion visit it generally takes 20-30 min to make it.

So basically unless we're feeling REALLY altruistic, charging any less than that amount is just unprofitable.

And some guys send it out to a lab to get made and they'll charge the dentist $150-180 to get made so then there has to be some juice involved for fitting and impression taking and stuff.

And then to top it all off, if i make 100 of these things about 50 people will actually be compliant with them and the other 50 either won't give it much of a chance because they just aren't comfortable in it or they're just lazy.

the bottom line is that they do work.

But that they're one of the toughest sells in all of dentistry and then have low compliance on top of that.

So what do i see? i see people just slowly wear their teeth down little by little every year and then one day they wake up after some life changing event and look in the mirror and are like: "WTF happened to my teef, they look TERRIBLE.. all worn down!" and then it's like a $5000 project to rebuild them with crowns and veneers if you're LUCKY... i've seen people have that WTF moment and then all their teeth were so worn that they really needed a crown on every tooth for about 20K.

And then they can't afford it or won't afford it and live out the rest of their life depressed because they really just should've spent the $400 on teh mouthguard 10 years ago and worn it.

and then i feel like a real basspole because i just crushed all their hopes and dreams and you wonder why we have the highest suicide rate in the white collar world.... it's because dental disease is so slow that we can see trainwrecks coming MILES and MILES away and due to dental insurance being terrible and limiting and people thinking it's a cashgrab they deny recommendation after recommendation and then after all those years I have to witness the very trainwreck we warned people about YEARS ago.

yes, i've had a few drinks tonight

They only work for people with very mild sleep apnea. If you have a certain amount of incidents (Not sure what the number is) the mouth guard doesnt work. I considered getting one to travel with, as the Cpap is a pain to pack. I was told that my level of Apnea was too severe.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.And he is a lardassBut he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

Exactly. I drive 40 mins to wrk one way, and I could never make it home without pulling off the road at a park n ride to walk around a bit and drink a soda.My study showed that I stop breathing 120+ times an hour. I guess I'm a severe case.Twice I woke up, prior to the CPAP, where I was choking and had to crawl to the bathroom gasping for air. Pretty scary stuff.

That happened to me a few times and was very scary. Your lungs just feel void.

 

[Sarnoff]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.

And he is a lardass

But he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?

I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

Exactly. I drive 40 mins to wrk one way, and I could never make it home without pulling off the road at a park n ride to walk around a bit and drink a soda.My study showed that I stop breathing 120+ times an hour. I guess I'm a severe case.

Twice I woke up, prior to the CPAP, where I was choking and had to crawl to the bathroom gasping for air. Pretty scary stuff.

That happened to me a few times and was very scary. Your lungs just feel void.

Yikes.

I have sleep apnea and sleep paralysis. Being conscious but unable to move and open my airway is not pleasant.

 

[Dentist]

They only work for people with very mild sleep apnea. If you have a certain amount of incidents (Not sure what the number is) the mouth guard doesnt work. I considered getting one to travel with, as the Cpap is a pain to pack. I was told that my level of Apnea was too severe.

2 different types of mouthguards being discussed so that no one gets confusedraiders was talking about a bruxism device... that's what i commented on.There are mouth guards for sleep apnea.. i've made them.. they're expensive, compliance is horrible, and they are only for mild cases.

 

[ragincajun]

WHY IS THERE NO "ITS THE DEVIL" OPTION?

I digress. I have a Auto SV Bipap. Without it I never go into RIM sleep, and only go into one of the cycles of sleep for 30-45 minutes a night. The doctor was surprised I had decent motor skills. That was fun to hear. Anyway I told him I gained weight after college and had been trying to work it off since with not much success. Lots of athletics in college was the difference. He said my body goes into hibernation mode essentially at night so my metabolism shuts down. FUN!

Anyway here are a few athletic apnea cases:

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[Leeroy Jenkins]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.

And he is a lardass

But he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?

I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

Exactly. I drive 40 mins to wrk one way, and I could never make it home without pulling off the road at a park n ride to walk around a bit and drink a soda.My study showed that I stop breathing 120+ times an hour. I guess I'm a severe case.

Twice I woke up, prior to the CPAP, where I was choking and had to crawl to the bathroom gasping for air. Pretty scary stuff.

That happened to me a few times and was very scary. Your lungs just feel void.

Yikes.

I have sleep apnea and sleep paralysis. Being conscious but unable to move and open my airway is not pleasant.

I've had the paralysis but not combined with the apnea.

 

[The Captain]

i have a buddy who doesn't know he needs one, but does and i fear he's going to die of sleep apnea in < 10 years if he doesn't get one.

And he is a lardass

But he won't goto the doctor... can i just acquire one of these on the black market and get it set up properly for him?

I know he'd feel better... he snores like Chewbacca and is always abusing caffeine due to chronic tiredness

That is why I went for sleep study. Chronic tiredness is the absolute worst. Dizzying. Yeah - your buddy is literally killing himself if he doesn't get treated. You can buy machines pretty easily now. They run about 500-800 bucks I believe.

Exactly. I drive 40 mins to wrk one way, and I could never make it home without pulling off the road at a park n ride to walk around a bit and drink a soda.My study showed that I stop breathing 120+ times an hour. I guess I'm a severe case.

Twice I woke up, prior to the CPAP, where I was choking and had to crawl to the bathroom gasping for air. Pretty scary stuff.

That happened to me a few times and was very scary. Your lungs just feel void.

Yikes.

I have sleep apnea and sleep paralysis. Being conscious but unable to move and open my airway is not pleasant.

Do these events ever include a lot of pressure and/or pain in the chest or neck and your heart pounding very hard, not really fast but it feels like your blood pressure is through the roof?Been having this happen lately when I sleep or nap. I wake up feeling like I'm I having a heart attack. It's not a panic attack, but haven't had a sleep study yet, so I don't know if its apnea or something else.

Any events like what I described happen to anyone?

 

[kevzilla]

I prefer to think of it as Alien face-hugging larva.

Doesn't matter. I would have probably died before FBG was created without it.

 

[pizzatyme]

A reducing lardass checking in. I've used my CPAP for 4 years now. 80 episodes/hr with 100% blockage 80% of the time.

I cannot sleep without mine now. It took me a full month to get used to it. I also sleep on my side.

My quality of life is incredibly better now.

 

[Premier]

Is it really preferable to wear this crap over just not having that 5th and 6th slice of pizza every other night?

Man you are super stupid lately.

 

[Premier]

I didn't realize you could have sleep apnea and not be a lardass.

A lot of veterans get them. Even non-fat ones recently out of service. Sleep apnea is becoming a major VA disability.

 

[Raider Nation]

Is it really preferable to wear this crap over just not having that 5th and 6th slice of pizza every other night?

Man you are super stupid lately.

He was just trying to be funny. Unless you suffer from sleep apnea, it's easy to be ignorant about it.

 

[Premier]

Is it really preferable to wear this crap over just not having that 5th and 6th slice of pizza every other night?

Man you are super stupid lately.

He was just trying to be funny. Unless you suffer from sleep apnea, it's easy to be ignorant about it.

Guess I'm sensitive to it. Hear a lot of horror stories.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

A buddy of mine wears one. Swears by it. I call it his Darth Vadar mask. He was not amused.

thats what I call mine.

 

[pizzatyme]

A buddy of mine wears one. Swears by it. I call it his Darth Vadar mask. He was not amused.

thats what I call mine.

I prefer to call mine my Top Gun Maverick mask.

 

[Raider Nation]

A buddy of mine wears one. Swears by it. I call it his Darth Vadar mask. He was not amused.

thats what I call mine.

I prefer to call mine my Top Gun Maverick mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdH_XtvpVkA&feature=player_detailpage#t=80s

 

[pizzatyme]

A buddy of mine wears one. Swears by it. I call it his Darth Vadar mask. He was not amused.

thats what I call mine.

I prefer to call mine my Top Gun Maverick mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdH_XtvpVkA&feature=player_detailpage#t=80s

Most excellent! "What were you doing?" "communicating!"

 

[Shermanator]

I've had my cpap for about 4 months now. And I can honestly say I dont think it works for me the way I thought it would or should. I still wake up during the night a few times. I dont really feel like I get a good nights sleep. At first I thought I just needed to adjust to it, but at this point I just dont know now. The facemask is very claustrophobic. It takes me a good twenty minutes to adjust breathing through the facemask as I lay in bed. At times I have to take it off to catch my breathe. I sleep on my side, which makes it somewhat difficult to wear the mask without it leaking air onto my face, which is very bothersome. Im constantly adjusting the mask on my face.

I have heard there are other cpap options on the market. My friend has what is called a bpap, which covers only the nose. Perhaps that is what I need.I think I need to get another sleep study done. Or at least discuss what is happening with my doc. Its just very frustrating to go through everything you need to go through in getting the machine only to have these issues.

 

[NJDawgPound]

You're not alone Shermanator. That's me to a tee. It's been about 3 weeks now and I'm not getting better sleep because of it. Feel like I'm suffocating some times too.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Mine is the "nose pillows" type. Plus it starts at a lower pressure and then ramps up at the prescribed amount after 10 min (once I'm asleep).

 

[flapgreen]

Mine is the "nose pillows" type. Plus it starts at a lower pressure and then ramps up at the prescribed amount after 10 min (once I'm asleep).

Same here