whodeywhodey
Footballguy
Starting to have major buyer's remorse on Crabtree.
Anyone starting him this week after last week's debacle?
Anyone starting him this week after last week's debacle?
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Man In The Box
Footballguy
Benching him for BMW in one league.
Starting him over Mike Wallace in the other.
Starting him over Mike Wallace in the other.
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Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Benched for Dez Bryant (WR3).
On the fence about Crabtree. The guy is talented, but he is a head case
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Got him in dynasty and redraft. In dynasty I'm cool and know he will be a value.In redraft I'm kicking myself a little as I'm starting to think he's my 6th round mistake. I've got other options but man I hate to get a guy a year early in redraft. Done that too many times and it doesn't pay squat.
It's too early to give up on him. There is just as good of a chance he will blow up this season as there is that he will be a bust.Guy could go either way. If you have other options hold onto him.
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
No way that I cut him. Just probably won't play him till he gets his head out of his ### crack.
Harrassment Panda
Footballguy
Jabari Greer will be covering him. Nobody caught more than 3 passes in a game against Greer all last season.
I have Crabtree and I'm sitting him in favor of Davone Bess.
I have Crabtree and I'm sitting him in favor of Davone Bess.
leave a whisper
Footballguy
People crack jokes all day in here about the over-hype of Finley and/or Best -- yet the blind Crabtree love is allowed ?
Maybe people should wait until he has his first ever 100 yard game or his first ever 2TD game before you count on Crabtree as anything more than a WR3.
I have a feeling that Crabtree might be the next Charles Rodgers.
Maybe people should wait until he has his first ever 100 yard game or his first ever 2TD game before you count on Crabtree as anything more than a WR3.
I have a feeling that Crabtree might be the next Charles Rodgers.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Benching him for MSW most likely most likely. Not worried for the year or dynasty, but think a short term bounce back is unlikely given the time he missed and how rusty he (and the whole team) was w1.
5Rings
Lurker
interesting stat, i never held greer in very high regard. could rolling the s his way be a factor at all?this is a great week for crab to break out...not saying he will....but Gore and VD should be able to replicate AD/Shiancoe's sucess...leaving crab as the forgotten man by the no d? not saying he will....but i'm rolling with him this week. home opener, MNF back at the Stick, and kid has something to prove....and don't doubt BRUNO power.
HairySasquatch
Footballguy
Benching him for S. Moss this week.
mystykoekaki
Footballguy
Week one for a lot of teams was very rough/rusty. Remember folks, defenses usually shine before offenses... give it some time and he should come around, he talent is incredible but he has a really subpar (understatement of course) qb..which in end will hurt his value.
I love clueless FF owners who dump good players after ONE subpar game. Someone just dumped Crabtree on waivers, due to be released Friday. Am considering dropping Knox and picking him up as my WR5 maybe to be used as trade fodder for another RB later in the season. Just not sure Cutler is going to settle on any one of the Bear WRs this year.
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RebelINS
Footballguy
lol, you talk about clueless then say you're "considering" dropping Johnny F'n Knox for him? How about not just considering and pulling the trigger on that one big boy.
I don't think the Knox/Crabtree comparison is as lopsided as you are suggesting... I drafted Knox given that he was considered to be Cutler's favorite target in the preseason as well as Martz's propensity to put the ball up. There exists the possibility for one or more of those CHI WRs to do really well. Just a matter of figuring out which one. On the other end, Crabtree has a ton of upside, but as many have mentioned, dude is a head case and not very consistent. So pardon me for just "considering"...
Harrassment Panda
Footballguy
No, Greer is usually out there by himself. Rarely gives up anything. Not just trying to pimp a hometown player here, he's a legit shut down corner.
haha, i have both of those losers as well. In my redraft league i was amazed that i got both crabtree and bowe with the 60th/61st picks, and in my keeper league i even reached for Crabtree taking him with the 37th pick, bowe again with the 61st pick (yes, i was last pick in BOTH drafts, in fact, i was last pick in all 3 of my leagues, lol...for those wondering, the odds are 1/12 x 1/12 x 1/10 = 1/1440). It is looking like a mistake so far, but in my keeper league i am quite comfortable in holding on to Crabtree who i feel is a lock to be a stud WR in the future and in fact this year. Bowe i'm not so sure about.They are both quite talented, but sometimes it is not pure talent which is important but attitude, desire, situation, luck, etc.
I'm sorry, but there is no comparison between Crabtree and Knox. I like Knox too, as you said, a WR5 or something. Crabtree is a WR2 or at worst 3, depending on your league.Also, how shallow is your league that you have someone dropping Crabtree? And the worst player on your team is Knox? I just can't see anyone dropping Crabtree in a decent competitive league. I would actually think about switching leagues if you got dummies like that in your league. Competitive leagues are far funner than weak leagues.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
You are correct, sir!I opened this thread thinking I might readt he OP talking about the Saints secondary. Not so much.But people might start thinking about it when deciding who to start at WR.
New Orleans was second in the league in DVOA against opposing #1 receivers last season.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
You mean you think he's gonna break his collarbone twice and then get suspended for violations of the substance abuse policy? Or are you under the mistaken impression that Charles Rogers failed to produce solely because of talent and opportunity?People act like the Crabtree love is coming out of nowhere. He's been a heralded talent for years and his rookie year production once he got on the field was decent. It's reasonable to expect him to have a good year as he learns to play WR at the NFL level. To be honest, when you look at the hype around him in college, when he was drafted, and his per-game performance his rookie year, the player he resembles most over the last decade is Andre Johnson (Braylon Edwards is another decent comparable) Not saying he's the next Andre Johnson, or that he'll be great next year then fade away like Edwards, but it's even more silly to assume he's the next Charles Rogers.
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Hank Mardukas
Footballguy
There's a reason Crabtree is the only 2-time Biletnikof Award winner. He has elite skills in pretty much all aspects of receiver play. Mike Leach has a show on Sirius-XM and his comments this morning on Crabtree were positively glowing. Leach says Crab was the hardest working player he ever had outside of Wes Welker. Never knew him to be a diva or complainer, just had bad people advising him on $ issues.
I think his lack of practice time from the neck injury and the offense needing time to come together are the reasons for his week 1 miscues. I am extremely confident that Crabtree will be an elite reciever at some point. Hopefully Alex Smith can at least be serviceable this year and get Crabtree the damn ball. If Calvin Johnson can be successful with the garbage QBs he's had, then Crabtree can too.
I think his lack of practice time from the neck injury and the offense needing time to come together are the reasons for his week 1 miscues. I am extremely confident that Crabtree will be an elite reciever at some point. Hopefully Alex Smith can at least be serviceable this year and get Crabtree the damn ball. If Calvin Johnson can be successful with the garbage QBs he's had, then Crabtree can too.
thekidd2009
Footballguy
Buffalo gave you guys a gift.
leave a whisper
Footballguy
sorry for the
IMHO he came from a "gimmicky system" at texas tech that at times made him look better than he was, also from the games i've seen him play in the NFL he hasnt shown anything that makes him look "special" when he is on the field. Solid, not great.As for being like charles rodgers, in that people just expect that because he has all the measurables (yet not as fast as some think) & was a high draft pick that he just has to succeed/be good .... like charles, not true.He has been called a diva, his work ethic, maturity, & character have been questioned by alot of people close to him (like rodgers) .... .... i could be very wrong about him, but i dont think he'll ever be the player many think he will be (just my opinion)..... and FF wise, i havent seen a thing on the field or a stat to date that makes me comfortable with him being anything more than a WR3 on any of my fantasy teams. 
(once again, i could be wrong .... but im just not a crabtree "guy")
Hank Mardukas
Footballguy
link? As I said above, Leach called him the hardest working player he ever coached, outside of Wes Welker. I've never heard a single question about Crabtree's character. Seems to me you're basing your comments on his hold-out and the dust up in the locker room this preseason. The only people who have called him a diva are ill-informed message board posters and sports columnists.leave a whisper said:
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leave a whisper
Footballguy
last time any college coach EVER said so much as one bad word about a former player ???? .... it doesnt happen because its bad buisness !! .... what did/do you expect Leach to say ?? if the truth was that crabtree was a pain in the *ss Leach still cant say a word about it, because the next coaching job he gets every coach that recruits against him will use it against him (hell, JimTressel still speaks well of maurice clarett).i gave my opinion on crabtree .... im not a televangelist trying to convert people - i just dont believe he's a special player & doubt he ever will be - MY OPINION.
(below are 2 links from "ill-informed" columnists)
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2010...ontrol-edition/
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5522212
.... play him, trade for him, or worship him if you'd like - i will do none of them.
(i am done burning calories on Michael Crabtree - good luck to him & all his owners moving forward)
Hank Mardukas
Footballguy
You clearly know nothing about Mike Leach.
Both Greer and Porter can play. They aren't household names but probably will be soon enough. Also, Tracy Porter has a spiderman haircut ... that cannot be ignored
