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[17seconds]

I'd use 66 inside regression when I wanted to get a charge vs. just pass line and 2 come bets.

Yes it's not as ideal as pass line and come bets but it's exciting...

For a $5 table...

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Point is established

You place $66 inside ($15 on 5 and 9, $18 on 6 and 8)

After 2 hits you bring your bets down to $22 inside ($5 on 6 and 9, $6 on 6 and 8)

Each hit that occurs after than you alternate collecting and pressing the bet

You don't care at all about the point or the come out roll. I usually say "always working"

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Why is it exciting? Well it's all about getting those 2 hits. Once you get there you've made $19 and everything after that is profit.

You usually do better than pass line / come bet players when it's a long roll

You almost always do better than the pass line / come bet players when it's choppy

You get destroyed when a lot of 7s come out rapid fire

 

[SKribbles]

Can simple give me a real simple explanation on how to play? Don't care about odds for now. Just want the basics. I've only played once and lost a quick $200 (thanks Incogneto )

From what I can gather:

Play the pass. If a 4568T is rolled, the point is on. But I don't win anything on my Pass bet until the point is rolled, right? After that, what are the basics? Play 4-10 and hope they keep coming up?

 

[Todem]

When a roller is coming out the first time....just a pass line bet.

If he/she hit's the point...one come bet with odds. Pass line with a back up

Makes a second point.....2 come bets with odds and pass line with max back up...you have a hot roller...ride him/her

You can make money very fast this way. I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I have a grinding strategy too.

For example if your at a $10 table start with this:

$10 on either 6 or 8.

If it hits

Take it down and put $30 on 4 or 9

if it hits

Take it down and go $20 on the 5 or 10 (same odds)

If that hits then you go

$40 on the 6 or 8 again.

I played for hours doing this at a decent table and made a little money.

If the table is hot...combine this with the come strategy above.

 

[Statorama]

When a roller is coming out the first time....just a pass line bet.If he/she hit's the point...one come bet with odds. Pass line with a back upMakes a second point.....2 come bets with odds and pass line with max back up...you have a hot roller...ride him/herYou can make money very fast this way. I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.I have a grinding strategy too.For example if your at a $10 table start with this:$10 on either 6 or 8.If it hitsTake it down and put $30 on 4 or 9if it hitsTake it down and go $20 on the 5 or 10 (same odds)If that hits then you go$40 on the 6 or 8 again.I played for hours doing this at a decent table and made a little money.If the table is hot...combine this with the come strategy above.

I think you meant to say $12 on 6 or 8 up there.

 

[Drifter]

I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

 

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I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

G1: BUT THE DICE LEFT THE TABLE!!!! GUARANTEED SEVEN-OUT!!!

G2: DON'T SAY THAT NUMBER #######!

 

[joffer]

I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

G1: BUT THE DICE LEFT THE TABLE!!!! GUARANTEED SEVEN-OUT!!!

it's UNCANNY how often that happens

 

[17seconds]

I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

G1: BUT THE DICE LEFT THE TABLE!!!! GUARANTEED SEVEN-OUT!!!

it's UNCANNY how often that happens

I have never seen a roll go more than a couple throws after the dice leave the table

 

[Buckna]

I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

G1: BUT THE DICE LEFT THE TABLE!!!! GUARANTEED SEVEN-OUT!!!

it's UNCANNY how often that happens

My particular superstition is that if you roll and a die hits some chips on the table it's almost always a 7-out. I know it's not rational, but it seems to happen all the freaking time.

 

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I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

G1: BUT THE DICE LEFT THE TABLE!!!! GUARANTEED SEVEN-OUT!!!

it's UNCANNY how often that happens

17% to be exact.

 

[Philo]

I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

Everything in this thread is shtick, right? Just making sure.

 

[17seconds]

I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

G1: BUT THE DICE LEFT THE TABLE!!!! GUARANTEED SEVEN-OUT!!!

it's UNCANNY how often that happens

17% to be exact.

umm.. nothat's when the dice stay on the table

 

[GOB]

Ok, I am very new at craps. I have a few questions.

First, let me tell you what I play.

$5 Pass Line bet. I back that up with odds 3x(6/8), 2x(5/9), and 1x(4/10).

Then I bet $5 Come bet. I back that up with odds the same way.

So to my questions:

1. Should I limit the number of Come bets? I mean if the shooter is on a roll, I am banking, but of course ideally since I am a beginner I want to minimize risk.

2. Let's say a point has been established and it hits. I still have 2 open come bets, with odds. Should I do anything other than simply start over with $5 Pass Line bet?

3. When, if ever, should I increase my odds? I mean I understand the mathematics behind the different numbers. But say the 6 is the point, I have one open come bet, do I maybe take 5x odds on the original pass line?

Any and all advice is appreciated. I am a beginner, but am getting over the hard part and focusing on my strategy. Of course, maybe I have the strategy all wrong.

 

[itriple]

Midnight

 

[Uncle Humuna]

One thing I could never grasp is why you would give odds on a don't pass /don't come bet.

Aren't you basically taking the odds advantage you gained in making it past the comeout roll,

and diluting it greatly by offering true odds back to the house?

e.g. If the point is 9, the odds are 3:2 in your favor, but your payoff is 1:1.

By giving odds, your making an addition bet with the same odds (3:2), but with only a 2:3 payback.

Why do that?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

G1: BUT THE DICE LEFT THE TABLE!!!! GUARANTEED SEVEN-OUT!!!

G2: DON'T SAY THAT NUMBER #######!

Also, do NOT fist-bump the midget at the door when entering O'Shea's. Cost me over $400 at the craps tables when one of my guys pulled that stunt last summer.

 

[Statorama]

One thing I could never grasp is why you would give odds on a don't pass /don't come bet.Aren't you basically taking the odds advantage you gained in making it past the comeout roll,and diluting it greatly by offering true odds back to the house?e.g. If the point is 9, the odds are 3:2 in your favor, but your payoff is 1:1. By giving odds, your making an addition bet with the same odds (3:2), but with only a 2:3 payback.Why do that?

Come out roll actually favors the pass line bettor (6 ways to make a 7, 2 ways to make eleven VS. 1 way to make a 2, 2 ways to make a 3, 12 is usually a push)Once the come out roll is over, those ways to make a 7 suddenly shift to your favor.If the point is a 4 or 10, you're laying 2 to make 1. There's 6 ways to make a 7 and 3 ways to make a 4 or 10 (6:3) so it's basically true odds.If I'm in a "Don't" mood though I'll just lay the 4 or the 10 right on the come out. It's worth the dollar to me to get the number I want right off the bat.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

If the point is a 4 or 10, you're laying 2 to make 1. There's 6 ways to make a 7 and 3 ways to make a 4 or 10 (6:3) so it's basically true odds.

My point is that once a 4 or 10 is rolled, you already have a bet in place with odds of 2:1 in your favor, but with a payout of 2:2 (you've layed 2 to make 2)Why make an additional bet where the odds are the same, but the payout is only 1:2 (you're laying 2 to make 1)?

 

[Statorama]

If the point is a 4 or 10, you're laying 2 to make 1. There's 6 ways to make a 7 and 3 ways to make a 4 or 10 (6:3) so it's basically true odds.

My point is that once a 4 or 10 is rolled, you already have a bet in place with odds of 2:1 in your favor, but with a payout of 2:2 (you've layed 2 to make 2)Why make an additional bet where the odds are the same, but the payout is only 1:2 (you're laying 2 to make 1)?

Depends on your goals. It'd take a long time to scratch out even $300 with just a small don't pass bet. Just easier to bank a nice stack using the odds.No shame at all in grinding out a winning night with a straight don't pass bet though.

 

[bentley]

This may be of limited value, but anyone near Albuquerque, NM should RUN to Sandia Casino. They're giving out free money there. I believe the dice are predispositioned to roll at 4 or 10. I can't count the number of times I hit those when I was there in late September.

My new golf clubs, running gear and complete works of The Beatles greatly appreciate the efforts at Sandia.

 

[Alias]

buy the 4 & 10 for a quarter, play 5, 6, 8, 9 for the minimum; when they hit, don't press the 5, 6, 8, 9 (that is your rent), first time a 4 or 10 hits, toss in $26 and make it a hundo

Conversative: after your 4/10 hundo place hits for the first time, bank your $195

Aggressive: press whatever you like

 

[Marauder]

If the point is a 4 or 10, you're laying 2 to make 1. There's 6 ways to make a 7 and 3 ways to make a 4 or 10 (6:3) so it's basically true odds.

My point is that once a 4 or 10 is rolled, you already have a bet in place with odds of 2:1 in your favor, but with a payout of 2:2 (you've layed 2 to make 2)Why make an additional bet where the odds are the same, but the payout is only 1:2 (you're laying 2 to make 1)?

Because you can't think of the "point" as a separate bet from the pass line. You can't make one without the other so they need to thought of as one bet and the odds calculated as such. The total bet has a house advantage and taking the odds has the effect of lowering the house edge.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

If the point is a 4 or 10, you're laying 2 to make 1. There's 6 ways to make a 7 and 3 ways to make a 4 or 10 (6:3) so it's basically true odds.

My point is that once a 4 or 10 is rolled, you already have a bet in place with odds of 2:1 in your favor, but with a payout of 2:2 (you've layed 2 to make 2)Why make an additional bet where the odds are the same, but the payout is only 1:2 (you're laying 2 to make 1)?

Because you can't think of the "point" as a separate bet from the pass line. You can't make one without the other so they need to thought of as one bet and the odds calculated as such. The total bet has a house advantage and taking the odds has the effect of lowering the house edge.

Makes sense.Mistake was comparing it to the 'last' bet in its current state, as opposed to the 'next' bet in its entirety.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Can somebody explain "pressing" and what bets you're allowed to take back off the table?

 

[Lehigh98]

I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

G1: BUT THE DICE LEFT THE TABLE!!!! GUARANTEED SEVEN-OUT!!!

SAME DICE!!!I don't think I've ever seen the dice hit some late bettors hand and NOT seven out.

 

[C & C]

Can somebody explain "pressing" and what bets you're allowed to take back off the table?

I believe you can take any bet off the table except the pass line and come bets once they have been established. edit to add: Craps bets which can be removed...Pressing your bet means you want to take your winnings and add that to another bet you have on the table, typically the one you just won on. I usually try to be explicit saying "press it all the way" instead. Others I'll use instead... "make it $(some dollar amount)", "up a unit on the 6".

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

If someone is playing the "don't" leave the table ASAP

Also you can pull back any bet except the pass/dont pass line. and the come/dont come original bet, you can ask for your odds back at any time.

Usually if the shooter flings the dice off the table I just yell "IM OFF" and "Give me my odds back" and then the 7 rolls out

 

[Drifter]

If someone is playing the "don't" leave the table ASAP

Also you can pull back any bet except the pass/dont pass line. and the come/dont come original bet, you can ask for your odds back at any time.

Usually if the shooter flings the dice off the table I just yell "IM OFF" and "Give me my odds back" and then the 7 rolls out

Yes, because how someone places their bet or handles the dice will have a direct outcome on the random results of the dice.Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

If someone is playing the "don't" leave the table ASAP

Also you can pull back any bet except the pass/dont pass line. and the come/dont come original bet, you can ask for your odds back at any time.

Usually if the shooter flings the dice off the table I just yell "IM OFF" and "Give me my odds back" and then the 7 rolls out

Yes, because how someone places their bet or handles the dice will have a direct outcome on the random results of the dice.Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

bad mojo my friend, bad mojo

 

[tribecalledjeff]

I want the shooter to prove to me they can be hot before I invest.

I came in here expecting some good gambling superstition. Good to see the thread didn't disapoint.

Everything in this thread is shtick, right? Just making sure.

Amazing stuff in here.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

I think blackjack table are worse than craps. Its one thing to dislike dark side bettors at a craps table (because sometimes it ruins the mood), but it is a different kind of irrationality in my opinion to get pissed at another blackjack player over his strategy decisions. I've met many seemingly rational guys who really seem to believe that a bad player at their blackjack table affects their odds of winning.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

If someone is playing the "don't" leave the table ASAPAlso you can pull back any bet except the pass/dont pass line. and the come/dont come original bet, you can ask for your odds back at any time.Usually if the shooter flings the dice off the table I just yell "IM OFF" and "Give me my odds back" and then the 7 rolls out

Aren't the "dont" bets slightly better odds?They are worse on the "come out" rolls though, right?

 

[videoguy505]

Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

I think blackjack table are worse than craps. Its one thing to dislike dark side bettors at a craps table (because sometimes it ruins the mood), but it is a different kind of irrationality in my opinion to get pissed at another blackjack player over his strategy decisions. I've met many seemingly rational guys who really seem to believe that a bad player at their blackjack table affects their odds of winning.

"#### M-###'er in the seat next to me hit on a 16 and stole my 10!!!!"

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

If someone is playing the "don't" leave the table ASAPAlso you can pull back any bet except the pass/dont pass line. and the come/dont come original bet, you can ask for your odds back at any time.Usually if the shooter flings the dice off the table I just yell "IM OFF" and "Give me my odds back" and then the 7 rolls out

Aren't the "dont" bets slightly better odds?They are worse on the "come out" rolls though, right?

ON the come out I think the Dont is the opposite, win on 2 or 3, lose on 7 or 11. I think 12 is push.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

I think blackjack table are worse than craps. Its one thing to dislike dark side bettors at a craps table (because sometimes it ruins the mood), but it is a different kind of irrationality in my opinion to get pissed at another blackjack player over his strategy decisions. I've met many seemingly rational guys who really seem to believe that a bad player at their blackjack table affects their odds of winning.

"#### M-###'er in the seat next to me hit on a 16 and stole my 10!!!!"

While the play of idiots doesn't change the odds on your individual hand, and it's pointless to get upset by other's play, it is annoying when somebody plays something glaringly wrong and you would have gotten a better card otherwise. Again, I realize the odds were the same, it's just the whole hindsight thing that brings out an emotion.

 

[Buckna]

Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

I think blackjack table are worse than craps. Its one thing to dislike dark side bettors at a craps table (because sometimes it ruins the mood), but it is a different kind of irrationality in my opinion to get pissed at another blackjack player over his strategy decisions. I've met many seemingly rational guys who really seem to believe that a bad player at their blackjack table affects their odds of winning.

Irrational superstitions aside, a lot of the draw of craps is playing with a bunch of other people and the camaraderie and fun when everyone is winning together and having a good time. Someone coming up to a table out of the blue and laying down darkside can ruin the experience. That person is coming up and betting directly against you, go be a #### somewhere else buddy.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I haven't played craps that much, but when I have I've tried the "Three Point Molly" system (pass line with odds and two come bets with odds). I have not come out ahead with this. If I'm betting $10, I back it up with $20 odds.

I'm thinking about two other strategies that I am sure a lot of people have tried. I dont know their official names but was hoping some of you guys could point out some of the plusses and minuses in them and your expereinces with them if you've used them. And/or tell me your strategy or advise to stick with the traditional Three Point Molly.

1. The Don't Three Point Molly (I know this will piss Buckna off!)

Don't Pass Line with odds and two Don't Come bets with odds.

2. Hybrid Three Point Don't Molly

Pass Line with odds and then two Don't Come bets with odds.

Thoughts?

 

[Statorama]

Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

I think blackjack table are worse than craps. Its one thing to dislike dark side bettors at a craps table (because sometimes it ruins the mood), but it is a different kind of irrationality in my opinion to get pissed at another blackjack player over his strategy decisions. I've met many seemingly rational guys who really seem to believe that a bad player at their blackjack table affects their odds of winning.

"#### M-###'er in the seat next to me hit on a 16 and stole my 10!!!!"

While the play of idiots doesn't change the odds on your individual hand, and it's pointless to get upset by other's play, it is annoying when somebody plays something glaringly wrong and you would have gotten a better card otherwise. Again, I realize the odds were the same, it's just the whole hindsight thing that brings out an emotion.

If you've been playing a shoe for a while and been counting cards and you know the shoe has a high card weight...you might have reason to get annoyed. If you're just a general basic strategy player, totally agree that you just have to blow that off and hope they steal a low card.From my experiences, people really get mad when the "anchor" plays poorly. That poor person gets yelled at like they just shot a baby seal in the face.

 

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If someone is playing the "don't" leave the table ASAP

Also you can pull back any bet except the pass/dont pass line. and the come/dont come original bet, you can ask for your odds back at any time.

Usually if the shooter flings the dice off the table I just yell "IM OFF" and "Give me my odds back" and then the 7 rolls out

Yes, because how someone places their bet or handles the dice will have a direct outcome on the random results of the dice.Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

bad mojo my friend, bad mojo

Funny. The best run I've ever had on a Craps table was a Mandalay Bay in Vegas during March Madness this year. It was about 2am and I hopped on a $10 table to wind down the night. Table was full and it was cold. I threw out a don't pass, and it hit. I played again, took max odds.... it hit again. People around me started playing it. When it was my turn to shoot I even played against myself, and won. Over the next hour or so the entire table was playing Don't pass and it kept hitting. I think it hit 16 times in a row and 25 out of 30 times or something like that (I was pretty drunk). The stickmen were laughing their asses off. The players were laughing thier asses off. When the streak finally cooled I chipped up and went to bed a happy man.

Dare I say, the infamous "Don't Pass Table" was the BEST mojo table I've ever played on.

 

[17seconds]

Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

I think blackjack table are worse than craps. Its one thing to dislike dark side bettors at a craps table (because sometimes it ruins the mood), but it is a different kind of irrationality in my opinion to get pissed at another blackjack player over his strategy decisions. I've met many seemingly rational guys who really seem to believe that a bad player at their blackjack table affects their odds of winning.

I'm no blackjack expert, but I disagree. There is a standard blackjack strategy and if an experienced player notices a beginner deviating from that and costing him a win, that's a legitimate gripe. Craps (which I play and love) is all BS superstition.

 

[Statorama]

If you're with a group that's sensitive to the "don't pass" mojo, wait for the point and go with a "no four" or "no ten" (betting that a 7 will appear before a 4 or 10).

You get to play the don't without ruining anyone's passline time.

Side note: in the banner ad on this site that says "Does Your Team Suck?" (for the rate my team app) is that Shuke pictured on the left hand side?

 

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Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

I think blackjack table are worse than craps. Its one thing to dislike dark side bettors at a craps table (because sometimes it ruins the mood), but it is a different kind of irrationality in my opinion to get pissed at another blackjack player over his strategy decisions. I've met many seemingly rational guys who really seem to believe that a bad player at their blackjack table affects their odds of winning.

I'm no blackjack expert, but I disagree. There is a standard blackjack strategy and if an experienced player notices a beginner deviating from that and costing him a win, that's a legitimate gripe. Craps (which I play and love) is all BS superstition.

The point is they are often just as likely to help you (by taking a small card) as hurt you (by stealing "your" big card). Nobody ever berates that player that hits on 15 vs a 15 and gets a 4, opening up that 10 for your doubled 11....do they?

 

[No. 16]

Can someone explain "come" bets to me?

I usually play pass line w/odds + 6/8 and this usually makes my cash go a long way.

I am also a firm believer that dice off the table kills the streak ONLY if they use the "same die." However, if you switch out the dice you've negated the impact of throwing the dice off the table.

Another one is if a guy throws the dice short (girls for some reason do better when they throw it short) he'll likely crap out.

 

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Can someone explain "come" bets to me?I usually play pass line w/odds + 6/8 and this usually makes my cash go a long way. I am also a firm believer that dice off the table kills the streak ONLY if they use the "same die." However, if you switch out the dice you've negated the impact of throwing the dice off the table. Another one is if a guy throws the dice short (girls for some reason do better when they throw it short) he'll likely crap out.

1) Come = same thing as a come out roll. Table is "off" for that bet. 7 wins. 2/3/12 loses. Any other number becomes your number. Odds play just like a pass line bet. 2) That's not a bad way to play (pass + 6/8)3) You can be a firm believer in santa claus too, but that doesn't make him real. 4) Again, santa factor. Short dice. Long dice. Purple Dice. Green Dice. No impact on the roll whatsoever. It's all in your mind and short term variance has zero impact on the actual odds.

 

[No. 16]

Can someone explain "come" bets to me?I usually play pass line w/odds + 6/8 and this usually makes my cash go a long way. I am also a firm believer that dice off the table kills the streak ONLY if they use the "same die." However, if you switch out the dice you've negated the impact of throwing the dice off the table. Another one is if a guy throws the dice short (girls for some reason do better when they throw it short) he'll likely crap out.

1) Come = same thing as a come out roll. Table is "off" for that bet. 7 wins. 2/3/12 loses. Any other number becomes your number. Odds play just like a pass line bet. 2) That's not a bad way to play (pass + 6/8)3) You can be a firm believer in santa claus too, but that doesn't make him real. 4) Again, santa factor. Short dice. Long dice. Purple Dice. Green Dice. No impact on the roll whatsoever. It's all in your mind and short term variance has zero impact on the actual odds.

1) So when can you play the "come" bet? Only when the point is off or anytime even after the point is made? 3/4) I understand it's just silly superstition but to me that's part of gambling. Just wanted to share my irrational superstitions.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Craps tables and remote pygmy tribes in South America seem to share a similar level of completely irrational superstitions.

I think blackjack table are worse than craps. Its one thing to dislike dark side bettors at a craps table (because sometimes it ruins the mood), but it is a different kind of irrationality in my opinion to get pissed at another blackjack player over his strategy decisions. I've met many seemingly rational guys who really seem to believe that a bad player at their blackjack table affects their odds of winning.

I'm no blackjack expert, but I disagree. There is a standard blackjack strategy and if an experienced player notices a beginner deviating from that and costing him a win, that's a legitimate gripe. Craps (which I play and love) is all BS superstition.

The point is they are often just as likely to help you (by taking a small card) as hurt you (by stealing "your" big card). Nobody ever berates that player that hits on 15 vs a 15 and gets a 4, opening up that 10 for your doubled 11....do they?

I have played at blackjack tables where people were splitting 10s the works. But I was winning. Basically, if I knew what the next card was going to be, I'd bet a whole lot differently. But I don't. People seldom remember the mistakes that other people make that help them out.My main thing at a black jack table is that people whining about the dealer always winning and basically being a "dark cloud" on the table. Brings the table down and makes it less fun to play. Got a good laugh the other day when I heard a friend complaining how he hates it when other players "steal" cards when they split their 8s! -QG

 

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1) So when can you play the "come" bet? Only when the point is off or anytime even after the point is made? 3/4) I understand it's just silly superstition but to me that's part of gambling. Just wanted to share my irrational superstitions.

When the point is off you're playing the pass line. When the point is ON you play the come (if you want the table to behave like it's OFF for that bet)And it's all good on superstitions. I understand the desire to buy into them.

 

[bigfun54]

I haven't played craps that much, but when I have I've tried the "Three Point Molly" system (pass line with odds and two come bets with odds). I have not come out ahead with this. If I'm betting $10, I back it up with $20 odds.I'm thinking about two other strategies that I am sure a lot of people have tried. I dont know their official names but was hoping some of you guys could point out some of the plusses and minuses in them and your expereinces with them if you've used them. And/or tell me your strategy or advise to stick with the traditional Three Point Molly.1. The Don't Three Point Molly (I know this will piss Buckna off!)Don't Pass Line with odds and two Don't Come bets with odds.2. Hybrid Three Point Don't MollyPass Line with odds and then two Don't Come bets with odds.Thoughts?

I was doing something like this last time in Vegas. I would initially start with three point Molly. I am pretty tight though and while I know it's not "the way to play" I tend to start with single odds on anything but 6/8 (assuming it's a $10 table). Then if things are going well, I'll start upping my odds. Anyway, the table was just choppy for a long time with quick 7s. So I switched it up and went Don't Pass with 2X odds, then 2 Come bets. With the table going the way it was, they kept 7'ing out on the first roll after hitting the point. So I was getting paid on the DP bet and the initial come bet. I was building back up slowly while my buddies were leaking money. We've all played together for awhile now and don't really get dismayed by the dark side, you have to do what you have to do. Finally the table went hot, I switched back to 3 point molly with increasing odds. Then the table went berserk and we were just throwing money all over it. I normally don't make place bets, but after 20 minutes of this, I was just leaving the come bet winnings out there as places. Table stayed pretty hot for about three hours and we had just a phenomenal time. One of those "reasons you play craps" type nights. We got crushed the next night of course, but for those of us that managed our money, it was overall a big winning week. Damn, I want to play craps now.

 

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Damn, I want to play craps now.

Heading to Tunica (Harrahs & Horseshoe) tomorrow night. Comped full RFB

 

[Arizona Ron]

Can somebody explain "pressing" and what bets you're allowed to take back off the table?

I believe you can take any bet off the table except the pass line and come bets once they have been established. edit to add: Craps bets which can be removed...Pressing your bet means you want to take your winnings and add that to another bet you have on the table, typically the one you just won on. I usually try to be explicit saying "press it all the way" instead. Others I'll use instead... "make it $(some dollar amount)", "up a unit on the 6".

The Shark Move is to go up "one unit" and not press your entire winnings everytime.