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I just found out that two of the guys here are leaving Sunday for a trade show at Mandalay Bay. I honestly threw what can only be described as an embarrassing hissy fit that I'm going to have to deal with for most of next week. Good luck.Heading to Tunica (Harrahs & Horseshoe) tomorrow night. Comped full RFB
point #1 - Come pays on 11 too.
So you kind of went the opposite of the one thing I listed above. I'm trying to maximize the 7 I guess because that's the number most likely to be rolled at any given time.Is mixing it up smarter, or is the best way really to just play all the don'ts? I know it may be frowned on, but seems like best way to play if you're not all over the table etc.
On one hand, the good thing with going all Don'ts is that there is no 1 number that can beat all of your bets. They'd literally have to pick each one of them off one by one. On the flip side, if you ever have that happen to you, you'll be so mad standing there you'll never want to play craps again. What I was doing by going DP and then 2 come bets was basically tread water at a "choppy" table. You just really have to be in tune with what is happening at the table and not try to make any one strategy "fit" what is happening at the table. Plus, and I should add this, I'm a really tight craps player. I must admit, until I get up a little bit, I'm not a lot of fun to play with. That being said, in nearly 8 years of going to Vegas for this trade show, I've only come home down one time. Now, I've never come home and bought a boat either, but if you're there to have a good time, play for as long as possible, and take it all in, then I'm your guy.
I'm starting to feel as if I should let the dark side take over.
Seems like the electronic game might take away from the stigma of being a wrong way player, and it would (supposedly) ensure correct payouts so you wouldn't have to eagle-eye the dealers for the payout when your $10 "five" hits. But otherwise seems to take away from what makes craps so enjoyable in the first place.ETA: the electronic game would also eliminate the possibility of someone snatching one of your chips while you weren't looking.
Yeah, the first thing I thought of when I sat down was how nice it would be if you were a don't player. There's a big, 42" screen, over the table at both ends that shows the bets being made, but doesn't show who is making them. So you're out there, but not easily labeled as that guy. Believe me, I hear what you guys are saying about the vibe, and it kind of looked that way to me, but it's more about the people than it is the table and when it was going hot, it was just as much fun and loud as any other table I've been at. Plus you got unobstructed views of the dice rolls and didn't have to worry about some idiot's hands. I don't want to talk it up too much, to be honest, I liked it a lot cause I won, but it was more enjoyable than I thought it would be.
one other thing I thought of, you wouldn't have to worry about the dice hitting a big stack of chips (which inevitably leads to a 7)
If you are going to play 3-4 times a week I dont think anyone here will help you do better then 50/50 over the long run. I always put a 5 and 4 on top and try and spin them across the whole table. I dont know why but I always roll outside numbers when I do that, esp 5's and 9's.Been playing 3-4 days a week lately Watched a few dice manipulation videos and it never seems to work for me as well as my usual toss. Here's what I've tried with terrible successointing both 1's to the right and both 6's to the left and matching up the numbers - usually 2 and 2. Standing in the 1 seat to the right of the stick man and trying for the pendulum swing. Supposed to be one of the best ways to roll for points. Been getting hammered every time I try this.My usual toss is a 1 on the thumb and the 6 on the pointer finger from the furthest end of the table and one swift toss to the back and I always seem to have more success this way going on way longer runs. A couple times the pitboss has gotten pissed at me for not reaching the back board, although I'm not purposely trying to avoid it - it's just that my toss is pretty light. I wish I kept a log of the numbers in the difference and I know all the best shooters sit directly next to the stick man but I seem to have a beast of a time from there. Maybe I just should consider that it is, in fact, all luck and keep betting the Pass/6/8
You know me more than most around FBG. I play poker 50 hours a week+.If you are going to play 3-4 times a week I dont think anyone here will help you do better then 50/50 over the long run. I always put a 5 and 4 on top and try and spin them across the whole table. I dont know why but I always roll outside numbers when I do that, esp 5's and 9's.Been playing 3-4 days a week lately
Watched a few dice manipulation videos and it never seems to work for me as well as my usual toss.
Here's what I've tried with terrible success:
Pointing both 1's to the right and both 6's to the left and matching up the numbers - usually 2 and 2. Standing in the 1 seat to the right of the stick man and trying for the pendulum swing. Supposed to be one of the best ways to roll for points. Been getting hammered every time I try this.
My usual toss is a 1 on the thumb and the 6 on the pointer finger from the furthest end of the table and one swift toss to the back and I always seem to have more success this way going on way longer runs. A couple times the pitboss has gotten pissed at me for not reaching the back board, although I'm not purposely trying to avoid it - it's just that my toss is pretty light.
I wish I kept a log of the numbers in the difference and I know all the best shooters sit directly next to the stick man but I seem to have a beast of a time from there. Maybe I just should consider that it is, in fact, all luck and keep betting the Pass/6/8
Any specific method the craps guys like?
Craps is a "one night, one moment" game. There is no "strategy".If you are going to play 3-4 times a week I dont think anyone here will help you do better then 50/50 over the long run. I always put a 5 and 4 on top and try and spin them across the whole table. I dont know why but I always roll outside numbers when I do that, esp 5's and 9's.Been playing 3-4 days a week lately
Watched a few dice manipulation videos and it never seems to work for me as well as my usual toss.
Here's what I've tried with terrible success:
Pointing both 1's to the right and both 6's to the left and matching up the numbers - usually 2 and 2. Standing in the 1 seat to the right of the stick man and trying for the pendulum swing. Supposed to be one of the best ways to roll for points. Been getting hammered every time I try this.
My usual toss is a 1 on the thumb and the 6 on the pointer finger from the furthest end of the table and one swift toss to the back and I always seem to have more success this way going on way longer runs. A couple times the pitboss has gotten pissed at me for not reaching the back board, although I'm not purposely trying to avoid it - it's just that my toss is pretty light.
I wish I kept a log of the numbers in the difference and I know all the best shooters sit directly next to the stick man but I seem to have a beast of a time from there. Maybe I just should consider that it is, in fact, all luck and keep betting the Pass/6/8
Any specific method the craps guys like?
100% agree about being the most fn game in the joint. Last year at Paris my wife and I had two $1 fire bets out with 5 points made with only the 10 to go. Sure enough he rolled a 10 on the come out but went 7-out the next roll. We still got $250 each and made roughly $1500 on the 25 min long roll. The whole table was going crazy.... I love when that happens. Only been part of a "change the dice roll" three times in my life and it is fun as hell to be apart of.
OOC - what casino?You know me more than most around FBG. I play poker 50 hours a week+.If you are going to play 3-4 times a week I dont think anyone here will help you do better then 50/50 over the long run. I always put a 5 and 4 on top and try and spin them across the whole table. I dont know why but I always roll outside numbers when I do that, esp 5's and 9's.Been playing 3-4 days a week lately
Watched a few dice manipulation videos and it never seems to work for me as well as my usual toss.
Here's what I've tried with terrible success:
Pointing both 1's to the right and both 6's to the left and matching up the numbers - usually 2 and 2. Standing in the 1 seat to the right of the stick man and trying for the pendulum swing. Supposed to be one of the best ways to roll for points. Been getting hammered every time I try this.
My usual toss is a 1 on the thumb and the 6 on the pointer finger from the furthest end of the table and one swift toss to the back and I always seem to have more success this way going on way longer runs. A couple times the pitboss has gotten pissed at me for not reaching the back board, although I'm not purposely trying to avoid it - it's just that my toss is pretty light.
I wish I kept a log of the numbers in the difference and I know all the best shooters sit directly next to the stick man but I seem to have a beast of a time from there. Maybe I just should consider that it is, in fact, all luck and keep betting the Pass/6/8
Any specific method the craps guys like?
Sometimes I break up the day with a little craps. Just trying to get the edge.
About 1 time out of 6.it's UNCANNY how often that happensG1: BUT THE DICE LEFT THE TABLE!!!! GUARANTEED SEVEN-OUT!!!
What's a fire bet, played a ton of craps and never heard of that? By your post, does that mean you hit all the points, before crapping out?
Some guy was telling a girl how to play when I had about $400 on the board. Guy says, "Sevens are bad" She says "What happens if you roll a seven?"...guess what happen...
The 1 in the 1 in 6 happened?
I know that guy. Thursday night a guy had 350 dollars on the Ace-Deuce at 1 to 15. I rolled him a 3. I was betting 25 on the pass line and lost because we had no point. The guy could have tossed me a nickel. I would have. ######Played for a short time the other day. Guy walked up shortly after I got there. I bet you guys know the type.Says every bet in the book to try to show how bad #### he is by knowing the vernacular. Walks up,"The world, hi-lo yo, double on the yo..." or something like that, every roll was pressed, bet the field sometimes would parlay his hard way wins, never taking down a profit. He had a decent roll that made me money but he left his on the table. I get the dice and as I am throwing first roll I hearealer:'All that on the field?'Him: 'Maybe, I will let you know in a second."He put all his stack on the field bet when I wasn't looking, I would have at least tried to put some positive mojo thoughts in my roll. geezI roll an 8 to establish the point. And I am ready for an argument. I look at dealer and see him walking away out of corner of my eye. And I think what a loser he is. I doubled my money in the same time by betting 6-8 and full odds on points. He probably thinks he had bad luck and he is best player because he knew the terms for all the sucker bets and played em. Again what a loser. The only way he wins that way is for a long extended roll by one person, which he might hit once in a blue moon. Someone who wins 10,000 or their whole bankroll. I can't be that way. Plus, they overwork the dealers and are annoying as all get out.
Best strategy right here.
Yeah more or less you got it. You hit all points it's 1000-1, 5 is 250-1 4 is 25-1. It's a bad bet like the rest of em but for a small amount you can win big if you get lucky
At a 5 dollar craps table, I put 5 on the pass and I play all the #s...makes it a blast
Yeah, I usually play 6-8 and pass line with odds, if point is 6 or 8 i move it all to the other one. When 6 or 8 hits and point is something else, i increase my odds bet til it maxes, or put those winnings on hardways when it's hot. When I have switched it up to bet 5 and 9 also, always seems to go poorly. It also kills me when 5 and 9s are hit a lot and I don't have them. When my wife plays with me, she likes the 5 so, I give her chips and she plays the 5 and the pass line with odds, then I cover the 9 and that works well.
If you keep not hitting the back wall, they will figure out you are trying to get away with something. If you use your throwing method and hit the back wall, it will be a long time before they figure out what you are doing.Been playing 3-4 days a week lately Watched a few dice manipulation videos and it never seems to work for me as well as my usual toss. Here's what I've tried with terrible success
I like to think of it as the most fun you can have in a casino, and you pay for it with the edge, which BTW isn't that big. Ther are less fun games with a slightly smaller casino edge...Strategies matter depending on whether you want high or low variance.
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one thing I Love about tunica is most tables have at least 20x odds available and some have 100x odds (Horseshoe). Talk about getting your house edge DOWN if you have the bankroll 
If you're going to do it at least find a table with 3x pay on 12. But yah it's pretty crazy/dumb to martingale on a bet where you can lose 20 ways but only win 16.
It looked like it was a true 50/50 proposition. Either you have the highest card or the dealer does. Looked great. But then I saw the catch.Some of the best plays i've seen were either hit and run artists, or guys who hung out and martingaled yo. The guys who would martingale yo would watch a table, and if it hadn't been rolled in X amount of times, they would start small and work up, throwing a few bucks on it for the dealers as well. Hit and run artist come in and make one play(usually a pass/no pass bet, or lay it on 6 or 8 after a weak point has been made). Just my degenerate input.
War would be good if they tiebroke by suit
Here's how I do it:
Generally my game is:
NORMAL GAME:
$5 Pass line +10 or 20 odds (depending on the bankroll).
$6 ea on 6 or 8. If I'm up and the table is going well, I'll end up playing $25 or 26 across.
I've always struggled with a consistent philosphy on pressing vs taking profits. The upside to playing a consistent game is that your dealer will learn your style and it requires less input from you and there is less chance of an error or missed bet.
Last time I settled on this if the table is doing alright...
I call it my "Press 1" philosophy : I'm sure it's been done before, but Essentially always press a single bet on a good shooter/hot table.
FIRST HIT: Press. -- $10 bet wins $12...bet becomes $20, taking $2 down
SECOND HIT: Press 1 bet -- $20 bet wins $24.. bet becomes $30, taking $14 down (now up $16 with $30 in play)
THIRD HIT: Press 1 bet -- $30 bet wins $36... bet becomes $40 and take $26 down (now up $42 with $40 in play)
etc.
Risk averse can pull down some at any point or stop pressing (obviously) but I've found this to be a nice easy-to-follow system for a balance of taking profits while still scaling bets to win big on a long roll.
Always tip your dealers!
I do like this approach as well. My only concern is the "across" bets can get you in trouble fast if the table is on one of those "number and seven" cold streaks... You're looking at dropping $35 each time that happens. Granted that sort of cold snap isn't too terribly common... may try this in Vegas if I can find a $5 table in July.
Don't even get me started. This is terrible. I had to show my buddy some numbers to get across to him that having those numbers out there did NOT actually help the game out.
