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Crazy Video of Bikers vs SUV (1 Viewer)

Well there are cars in front of you, they slash your tires, they are using their helmet as a hammer to get at you inside of your SUV, if you have a gun on you I'd say it would take a #### ton of restraint not to at least draw it if not fire it. You are out of options at this point, what are you going to do try to run from them? This might be classified as a hate crime which just makes matters worse, they sure as hell were not trying to reason with him when they beat the #### out of the guy. I feel sorry for the guy and would never want to find myself in his situation.
An eye witness made this statement...'' never saw a man fight as as that driver fought. He put his back to the Suv, and before they overpowered him the dead men were strewn in heaps thigh-deep about him. But at last they dragged him down, a hundred against one''

 
Your SUV or pick up should have more than just a 4WH and 4WL setting. It should have at least the standard additional settings for sand, snow, rain, and bikers. Mine has a setting for going over bikers, the appropriate skid plates, and no flat tires. That, coupled with the massive amount of ammunition and weaponry I carry to be able to get and sustain a boner makes me more or less impervious to thugs like this.

Now there was one unfortunate incident where I was somewhat intoxicated and turned onto a parade route, but mostly things have worked out fine. Man that section of trombone players freaked me out. I don't know what I thought they were doing but I sure felt threatened. Now I just feel silly about the whole thing and I regret my actions.

 
Maybe they're one of those environmentally friendly bike gangs and didn't appreciate his choice of vehicle.

 
T Bell said:
This is why you need a conceal & carry permit and guns!
Yes start a gun fight with your family in the car while you are massively outnumbered. Better off sticking to SUV as weapon until the police catch up. 911 is your best friend here.
Typical B.S. response, wait for the police to arrive. How did that turn out for him after they slashed his tires?
The crew then beat the man in front of his wife and child, police sources said.

The victim was rushed to Columbia Presbyterian Hospital with two black eyes, and also needed stitches on his face and chest.
You do realize he wouldn't necessarily need to fire his weapon to defend himself, his wife or his child.
He could just smack them over the head with the butt? His gun turns into a phone and he can call the police? Are you suggesting that he will intimidate the biker gang by waving his gun around and they all go home? Wacky gun nut logic.
just take your beating like a man. hopefully they will just knock you unconscious, and that satisfies them.
Yea, hopefully..

1 shot would have sent every one of those fools running. I hope it would have never come to that.

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Doubt it, mob mentality + they probably had guns of their own.Shooting one of them increases the odds you get killed.
I'd take those odds over getting dragged from the car and getting stomped to death in front of my child.
He wasn't stomped to death.
Oh you and your facts.

 
One biker who was struck by the SUV, 28-year-old Christopher Cruz, was arrested and faces several charges, including reckless endangerment, reckless driving and endangering the welfare of a child, police said.

Authorities have not identified the people in the SUV.

A helmet camera one of the bikers was wearing captured much of the road rage incident, including the moment when one of the bikers walks up to the SUV and smashes its window with a bike helmet. The video has been posted online.

Police say this same group of bikers descended on New York City and clogged up Times Square last year in what Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said is a "major stunt event."

Authorities say they were able to prevent the group from entering Times Square this year. Police arrested 15 bikers in total Sunday, seized 55 bikes and wrote 68 summons for various violations.

They are looking at video footage to try to determine if any other charges will be filed in the road rage incident.

 
They need to put the moron (or good samaritan?) who posted the video in protective services

From the video it appears he was just along for the ride but his crew isn't going to be happy with him.

 
reckless endangerment, reckless driving and endangering the welfare of a child
Nice throwing of the book there. Put some of these guys in Rikers with some real bikers and let's see how excited they are to straddle anything when they get out.
Yeah, having ticked off the NYPD previously, filming your harassment and assault on a family w/a 2 year old kid isn't the best career move.

 
They need to put the moron (or good samaritan?) who posted the video in protective services

From the video it appears he was just along for the ride but his crew isn't going to be happy with him.
He looked pretty actively involved to me. A few times he waves some stopped bikers up, like "Come on, get them!".

 
The worst part is now every biker knows the identity of the SUV driver. I'd bet they will be messing with him for a loooong time.

His life's going to suck.

 
reckless endangerment, reckless driving and endangering the welfare of a child
Nice throwing of the book there. Put some of these guys in Rikers with some real bikers and let's see how excited they are to straddle anything when they get out.
Yeah, having ticked off the NYPD previously, filming your harassment and assault on a family w/a 2 year old kid isn't the best career move.
5 month old kid.

 
reckless endangerment, reckless driving and endangering the welfare of a child
Nice throwing of the book there. Put some of these guys in Rikers with some real bikers and let's see how excited they are to straddle anything when they get out.
Yeah, having ticked off the NYPD previously, filming your harassment and assault on a family w/a 2 year old kid isn't the best career move.
5 month old kid.
That kid is a lot older than 5 months if I'm seeing the right kid in the photos released so far.

 
reckless endangerment, reckless driving and endangering the welfare of a child
Nice throwing of the book there. Put some of these guys in Rikers with some real bikers and let's see how excited they are to straddle anything when they get out.
Yeah, having ticked off the NYPD previously, filming your harassment and assault on a family w/a 2 year old kid isn't the best career move.
5 month old kid.
That kid is a lot older than 5 months if I'm seeing the right kid in the photos released so far.
I've seen news outlets reporting the child is two years old. The confusion regarding "5" may be that some news outlets were initially reporting that the child was "under five years old".
 
Daily Mail says two bikers were ran over and one may not walk again
Best news of the day.
It's a nice clean break in that the guy that's paralyzed was the one that started it. Had he flattened someone that stopped after the initial altercation this would be alot more complex perhaps.

His wife is a smoke show btw.
Do be honest, if any of them came away paralyzed, I'd be OK with it. Hell, I would have been OK with him swerving and accidentally hitting some moron changing lanes without a blinker and leaving them paralyzed. But that's just my opinion.

 
Yeah - if I'm in the car with my family, hell, if I'm alone and I get surrounded by bikers and forced to stop. I'm doing the same damn thing. I'm also staying on the highway and calling 911. If I'm forced to stop by traffic and they start beating on my car with helmets, I start shooting.
he should have reversed into them and just started running them over like gta v

 
Hyperbole aside, I'm not happy that someone is hurt and may be hurt badly -- but I have zero sympathy. Bikers don't own the ####### highway, don't have the right to do what these guys did and if someone did something that made me fear for my kids I'd have no trouble doing what I needed to do to protect them.

Actually, that's not right. I'd have a lot of trouble with it. I'd do it, but I'd feel awful and I'm sure it would haunt me. Hopefully the guy driving the Range Rover isn't messed up for life.

 
Range Rover driver showed restraint by only running over them when he absolutely had to. I would've been swerving left and right sideswiping 'em as they chased me down the freeway. At the traffic jam at the end I'd have thrown it in reverse and plowed over another dozen.
100%. As soon as they started chasing me I would have begun taking out any bike that got beside me.

I think self-defense is established the second they go all Mad Max on the guy. I would have taken full advantage of that and turned those pieces of #### into the crow food they deserve to be.

 
Hyperbole aside, I'm not happy that someone is hurt and may be hurt badly -- but I have zero sympathy. Bikers don't own the ####### highway, don't have the right to do what these guys did and if someone did something that made me fear for my kids I'd have no trouble doing what I needed to do to protect them.

Actually, that's not right. I'd have a lot of trouble with it. I'd do it, but I'd feel awful and I'm sure it would haunt me. Hopefully the guy driving the Range Rover isn't messed up for life.
It wouldn't bother me one bit to hurt one of those idiots.

 
Daily Mail says two bikers were ran over and one may not walk again
Best news of the day.
It's a nice clean break in that the guy that's paralyzed was the one that started it. Had he flattened someone that stopped after the initial altercation this would be alot more complex perhaps.

His wife is a smoke show btw.
Do be honest, if any of them came away paralyzed, I'd be OK with it. Hell, I would have been OK with him swerving and accidentally hitting some moron changing lanes without a blinker and leaving them paralyzed. But that's just my opinion.
As long as we're being honest, I'd be ok with every single biker in that video dying of a rare breed of VD mixed with diahrea and rotting in hell for all eternity.

 
Hyperbole aside, I'm not happy that someone is hurt and may be hurt badly -- but I have zero sympathy. Bikers don't own the ####### highway, don't have the right to do what these guys did and if someone did something that made me fear for my kids I'd have no trouble doing what I needed to do to protect them.

Actually, that's not right. I'd have a lot of trouble with it. I'd do it, but I'd feel awful and I'm sure it would haunt me. Hopefully the guy driving the Range Rover isn't messed up for life.
I think he was just treated for minor injuries and released.

 
Daily Mail says two bikers were ran over and one may not walk again
Best news of the day.
It's a nice clean break in that the guy that's paralyzed was the one that started it. Had he flattened someone that stopped after the initial altercation this would be alot more complex perhaps.

His wife is a smoke show btw.
Do be honest, if any of them came away paralyzed, I'd be OK with it. Hell, I would have been OK with him swerving and accidentally hitting some moron changing lanes without a blinker and leaving them paralyzed. But that's just my opinion.
Sad part is, you know at the next get together,

"Hey man, turns out F Tee Dubs (orwhatever his gang name was) is paralyzed!"

"Well that sucks. But man, do you remember the look on that Range Rover guy's face? Guy #### his pants!"

"That was hilarious! Let's do it again today!"

 
Daily Mail says two bikers were ran over and one may not walk again
Best news of the day.
It's a nice clean break in that the guy that's paralyzed was the one that started it. Had he flattened someone that stopped after the initial altercation this would be alot more complex perhaps.

His wife is a smoke show btw.
Do be honest, if any of them came away paralyzed, I'd be OK with it. Hell, I would have been OK with him swerving and accidentally hitting some moron changing lanes without a blinker and leaving them paralyzed. But that's just my opinion.
Sad part is, you know at the next get together,

"Hey man, turns out F Tee Dubs (orwhatever his gang name was) is paralyzed!"

"Well that sucks. But man, do you remember the look on that Range Rover guy's face? Guy #### his pants!"

"That was hilarious! Let's do it again today!"
:lol:

I'm guessing there's also a part in the meeting where they discuss the pros and cons of brake checking an SUV.

 
Seems like a great opportunity to make an example of everyone involved. I'd charge every single one of them with the same charges. Permanent suspension of driving privileges in NY for every single one. And I think a fine in the neighborhood of $50k a piece would be about right considering that every single one of them contributed to the endangerment of a child.

If I were the prosecuting attorney, I would be going for the throat. All you have to do is play the video and get the jury to put themselves in the place of the driver. Oh, and make sure that kid is in the court room for the whole trial.

The world does not need these thugs.

 
Daily Mail says two bikers were ran over and one may not walk again
Best news of the day.
It's a nice clean break in that the guy that's paralyzed was the one that started it. Had he flattened someone that stopped after the initial altercation this would be alot more complex perhaps.

His wife is a smoke show btw.
:pics:
There are some other pics that don't look this good:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pack-motorcyclists-chase-man-suv-attack-upper-manhattan-street-fender-bender-west-side-highway-article-1.1471585

 
This is why you need a conceal & carry permit and guns!
Yes start a gun fight with your family in the car while you are massively outnumbered. Better off sticking to SUV as weapon until the police catch up. 911 is your best friend here.
Typical B.S. response, wait for the police to arrive. How did that turn out for him after they slashed his tires?

The crew then beat the man in front of his wife and child, police sources said.

The victim was rushed to Columbia Presbyterian Hospital with two black eyes, and also needed stitches on his face and chest.
You do realize he wouldn't necessarily need to fire his weapon to defend himself, his wife or his child.
Typical Wyatt Earp wannabe ####### response.
I'm sure if you were driving the Range Rover you'd gladly take a beating and risk death instead of risking someone calling you a "Wyatt Earp wannabe" for wanting to protect your wife and child with a licensed weapon.
Why are you people always fantasizing about killing "bad guys" to protect your family?
What is it about this story that you consider a fantasy? It is illegal in most cases to conceal carry in NYC. NYC allows concealed carry but their approval guidelines on who gets to carry is very narrow in which only the very rich and famous or political are approved. That is the point SeaDogStat made that you interjected with your "fantasy speculation".

What is it about the anti-gun crowd to always make wild west references whenever someone suggests the injuries this guy endured could have been avoided if he was allowed to protect himself, his wife and his child instead of waiting for a lackluster police response to protect them?
The fact that its only happened once in the history of history. Your odds of getting struck by lightning after winning the lottery are better.

PS - no one is breaking in your house in the middle of the night with intentions of killing you and your family either, Rambo.
You have no clue what you're talking about.. Mob criminal activity, and road rage encounters are very common, just not commonly recorded via video.

 
Some info I haven't seen, from the above link:

- Lien was slashed in the face with a knife, which he received stitches for

- they were out on a Sunday drive for their first wedding anniversary

- he's a wealthy e-com exec

- one of the riders hospitalized is pictured

 
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They do have the guy who video'd the whole thing in custody right? Cause that camera has GPS and an IP address (at the very least an IP address).

Also has GoPro issued a statement? Are they helping the authorities find this #####?

 
So the message is, as always, guns would have been the optimal solution to a situation like this?

What sort of gun would you need here? An UZI? Or a shoulder mounted RPG?
Optimally, you wait for one of the presidents drones to arrive, if that fails, grenades would be nice, or at least a shotgun loaded with buckshot.

All kidding aside, and this isn't very practical, but if that guy would have jumped out of his SUV before the bikers had all come to a stop and where on top of the vehicle, a short barrel 12 gauge would have likely held them off..

 
So the message is, as always, guns would have been the optimal solution to a situation like this?

What sort of gun would you need here? An UZI? Or a shoulder mounted RPG?
Optimally, you wait for one of the presidents drones to arrive, if that fails, grenades would be nice, or at least a shotgun loaded with buckshot.All kidding aside, and this isn't very practical, but if that guy would have jumped out of his SUV before the bikers had all come to a stop and where on top of the vehicle, a short barrel 12 gauge would have likely held them off..
His range rover needed one of these.
 
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Range Rover driver showed restraint by only running over them when he absolutely had to. I would've been swerving left and right sideswiping 'em as they chased me down the freeway. At the traffic jam at the end I'd have thrown it in reverse and plowed over another dozen.
100%. As soon as they started chasing me I would have begun taking out any bike that got beside me.I think self-defense is established the second they go all Mad Max on the guy. I would have taken full advantage of that and turned those pieces of #### into the crow food they deserve to be.
I thought the bikers were asking for trouble tailgating him. Stopping distance of an SUV is much shorter than that of a bike.
 
I'm not assuming anything. If a gun gets pulled, someone could die. If he doesn't shoot, and just shakes it around trying to scare someone, one of the thugs might just take it away and shove it up his ###.
Someone could have died without a gun being pulled.. There are approx 40,000 motor vehicle deaths a year, and they were definitly flirting with that stat by pulling this BS on the highway.. There was a death related to these motor cycle guys over the weekend as one of them crashed and died trying to evade the police..

The blatant disregard for the lives of others is pretty obvious here.. Motor cycle dare devils need to keep their shenanigans off the road. Endanger their own lives all they want...

 

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