Creation Museum (1 Viewer)

[joffer]

Do they say how the two kangaroos got from Ararat to Australia? Cause that one's always bugged me.

They hopped. The continents weren't separated 6,000 years ago.

Well bless their little hearts.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because people like putting down others that are different in order to feel better about themselves.

Not at all. I also come down on people who do junk science and try to pass it off as good work. This is no different than junk science. It hurts more than it helps and it causes ignorance of real world science which is necessary to make real world decisions on policy.

Yes, because how the world got here changes how we should act right now today so much...

Of course it does Larry. Or else you end up with people who think dragons existed.

We also have people who think we never landed on the moon, time travel has occurred, the sitting president is part of some grand Illuminati scheme to create a new world order (that one persists through presidents amazingly), and most obsurd of all, if i name any Hollywood hottie there will be a subset of people who think she is somehow below their level.

you are never gonna convince everyone, IF they want a place to gather and discuss their beliefs so be it.

Outrage over public schools teaching this stuff, that is well placed. This museum is simply not worth the time to disparage

Why do you think there are people out there pushing to have this stuff discussed in public schools?

 

[B-Deep]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because people like putting down others that are different in order to feel better about themselves.

Not at all. I also come down on people who do junk science and try to pass it off as good work. This is no different than junk science. It hurts more than it helps and it causes ignorance of real world science which is necessary to make real world decisions on policy.

Yes, because how the world got here changes how we should act right now today so much...

Of course it does Larry. Or else you end up with people who think dragons existed.

We also have people who think we never landed on the moon, time travel has occurred, the sitting president is part of some grand Illuminati scheme to create a new world order (that one persists through presidents amazingly), and most obsurd of all, if i name any Hollywood hottie there will be a subset of people who think she is somehow below their level.

you are never gonna convince everyone, IF they want a place to gather and discuss their beliefs so be it.

Outrage over public schools teaching this stuff, that is well placed. This museum is simply not worth the time to disparage

Why do you think there are people out there pushing to have this stuff discussed in public schools?

That's a different matter

People can believe what they want to believe, that's pretty fundamental to freedom. If they want to open a museum for there beliefs who cares.

that's a far cry from demanding those beliefs be taught in public schools, then it crosses a line where i believe it matters.

if they have their own place and they are spending their money to support their beliefs i don't feel a need to be upset

 

[glock]

This cave aquarium features live blind cavefish, showing how natural selection allows organisms to possess characteristics most favorable for a given environment—but it is not an example of evolution in the molecules-to-man sense.

 

[glock]

One of the new exhibits will fill the large portico of the Creation Museum—filled with dragons!

With all-original, spectacular artwork, intriguing portrayals of many dragon legends, hundreds of Chinese lanterns, two large colorful dragons from China and intriguing artifacts, this dragon display will be unique and awe-inspiring. The question will be posed to our guests, “Were dinosaurs dragons?”

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

That's a different matter

People can believe what they want to believe, that's pretty fundamental to freedom. If they want to open a museum for there beliefs who cares.

that's a far cry from demanding those beliefs be taught in public schools, then it crosses a line where i believe it matters.

if they have their own place and they are spending their money to support their beliefs i don't feel a need to be upset

My point is that the reason why you have yahoos trying to inject this crap into public schools/text books is because of organizations/churches like this.

Not to mention how they're contributing to the dumbing-down of our general populice.

 

[B-Deep]

This cave aquarium features live blind cavefish, showing how natural selection allows organisms to possess characteristics most favorable for a given environment—but it is not an example of evolution in the molecules-to-man sense.

be prepared for a micro v macro lecture

 

[B-Deep]

That's a different matter

People can believe what they want to believe, that's pretty fundamental to freedom. If they want to open a museum for there beliefs who cares.

that's a far cry from demanding those beliefs be taught in public schools, then it crosses a line where i believe it matters.

if they have their own place and they are spending their money to support their beliefs i don't feel a need to be upset

My point is that the reason why you have yahoos trying to inject this crap into public schools/text books is because of organizations/churches like this.

Not to mention how they're contributing to the dumbing-down of our general populice.

ok, so what of it?

i don't disagree, the answer is simple

don't go

i wouldn't watch the kardashian sisters even if my only other choice was a table dance from Dennis Rodman, but i have no problem with the Kardashinas being on TV

similarly i find the ideas that this museum seems to promote silly to the point of ridiculous

but I have no problem with it existing or people going there. sometimes good smart people believe wacky things.

 

[Rayderr]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because people like putting down others that are different in order to feel better about themselves.

Not at all. I also come down on people who do junk science and try to pass it off as good work. This is no different than junk science. It hurts more than it helps and it causes ignorance of real world science which is necessary to make real world decisions on policy.

If you say so.

You can't possible support or defend any organization that teaches complete under the name of science can you?

No, but that doesn't mean we should all laugh at them. I'm an atheist, and even I found NCC's calling Christian beliefs "magic thinking" insulting.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I visited family in Louisville last year. I was dying to see this museum.

But alas, it's about two hours from Louisville.

 

[Jayrok]

Do they say how the two kangaroos got from Ararat to Australia? Cause that one's always bugged me.

They hopped. The continents weren't separated 6,000 years ago.

Well bless their little hearts.

it's science..

 

[jdoggydogg]

• All passes good for 2 days.

It's like The Louvre: you can't take it all in in just one day.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because people like putting down others that are different in order to feel better about themselves.

Not at all. I also come down on people who do junk science and try to pass it off as good work. This is no different than junk science. It hurts more than it helps and it causes ignorance of real world science which is necessary to make real world decisions on policy.

If you say so.

You can't possible support or defend any organization that teaches complete under the name of science can you?

No, but that doesn't mean we should all laugh at them. I'm an atheist, and even I found NCC's calling Christian beliefs "magic thinking" insulting.

How else would you describe it?

 

[jdoggydogg]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with

some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do.

freedom, it is america

if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance.

We also have the right to mock this place.

 

[jdoggydogg]

That's a different matter

People can believe what they want to believe, that's pretty fundamental to freedom. If they want to open a museum for there beliefs who cares.

that's a far cry from demanding those beliefs be taught in public schools, then it crosses a line where i believe it matters.

if they have their own place and they are spending their money to support their beliefs i don't feel a need to be upset

My point is that the reason why you have yahoos trying to inject this crap into public schools/text books is because of organizations/churches like this.

Not to mention how they're contributing to the dumbing-down of our general populice.

Exactly. It's contributing to the fear and distrust of science.

 

[B-Deep]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with

some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do.

freedom, it is america

if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance.

We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do

i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama

there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside

if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

 

[Cliff Clavin]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with

some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do.

freedom, it is america

if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance.

We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do

i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama

there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside

if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

I don't see why ridiculous, unsubstantiated beliefs should be tolerated. Should we tolerate the beliefs of people who think the earth is flat? That 1+1=3? That underpants gnomes exist? That Don and Dawn rhyme?

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

eh not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because people like putting down others that are different in order to feel better about themselves.

Not at all. I also come down on people who do junk science and try to pass it off as good work. This is no different than junk science. It hurts more than it helps and it causes ignorance of real world science which is necessary to make real world decisions on policy.

Yes, because how the world got here changes how we should act right now today so much...

Of course it does Larry. Or else you end up with people who think dragons existed.

This museum is simply not worth the time to disparage

Sure it is. And I wouldn't want to be paying for it if I lived there. Which I don't...Thank god.

 

[Rayderr]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because people like putting down others that are different in order to feel better about themselves.

Not at all. I also come down on people who do junk science and try to pass it off as good work. This is no different than junk science. It hurts more than it helps and it causes ignorance of real world science which is necessary to make real world decisions on policy.

If you say so.

You can't possible support or defend any organization that teaches complete under the name of science can you?

No, but that doesn't mean we should all laugh at them. I'm an atheist, and even I found NCC's calling Christian beliefs "magic thinking" insulting.

How else would you describe it?

I would call it their beliefs. All religions have events in their history that defy science. Jews have a days worth of oil buring for 8 days, Islam has splitting the moon into 2, Buddhists have flowers raining from the sky and decapitated bodies spewing milk instead of blood. Yet for whatever reason, people (mainly my fellow atheists) seem to like to point and laugh at christians. And really, the only reason to laugh and make fun of someone else is to make yourself feel better.

 

[B-Deep]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with

some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do.

freedom, it is america

if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance.

We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do

i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama

there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside

if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

I don't see why ridiculous, unsubstantiated beliefs should be tolerated. Should we tolerate the beliefs of people who think the earth is flat? That 1+1=3? That underpants gnomes exist? That Don and Dawn rhyme?

why tolerate people that think global warming is real, or fake?

why tolerate people who vote different from you?

why tolerate people who chose to live in another counrty?

why tolerate people who play the lotto?

why tolerate people who liked the movie eyes wide shut?

there's likely something that you do/say/believe/like that someone else deems ridiculous

you are under no obligation to be tolerant, but it is something i would ask christians to be so it is something i would also ask non-christians to be

now if we are talking about racism, abuse, things of that nature that is a different story

but if my neighbor, lets call him Larry, is a kind and normal person who also believes god created the world in 6 days and then took a snoozer on day 7, I am doing myself and the world disservice by rejecting him completely over that one belief

that's just my 2 cents though

 

[McGarnicle]

Interesting they have dinosaur bones. I'm wondering how they explain away the bible's time discrepancies with science? Carbon dating is a tool of Satan?

 

[Rayderr]

Interesting they have dinosaur bones. I'm wondering how they explain away the bible's time discrepancies with science? Carbon dating is a tool of Satan?

I believe it's that God has made them appear older is their explanation.

 

[B-Deep]

Interesting they have dinosaur bones. I'm wondering how they explain away the bible's time discrepancies with science? Carbon dating is a tool of Satan?

I believe it's that God has made them appear older is their explanation.

if you are open to the idea of an all powerful god willing to mess with us almost anything is explainable

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because people like putting down others that are different in order to feel better about themselves.

Not at all. I also come down on people who do junk science and try to pass it off as good work. This is no different than junk science. It hurts more than it helps and it causes ignorance of real world science which is necessary to make real world decisions on policy.

If you say so.

You can't possible support or defend any organization that teaches complete under the name of science can you?

No, but that doesn't mean we should all laugh at them. I'm an atheist, and even I found NCC's calling Christian beliefs "magic thinking" insulting.

How else would you describe it?

I would call it their beliefs. All religions have events in their history that defy science. Jews have a days worth of oil buring for 8 days, Islam has splitting the moon into 2, Buddhists have flowers raining from the sky and decapitated bodies spewing milk instead of blood. Yet for whatever reason, people (mainly my fellow atheists) seem to like to point and laugh at christians. And really, the only reason to laugh and make fun of someone else is to make yourself feel better.

1. All of those beliefs are stupid.

2. As Americans we are (over)exposed to the Christian beliefs more than any other. You don't see Muslims or Buddhists trying to get their beliefs taught as "facts" in American public schools.

3. I laugh at them not to make myself feel better. I laugh at them to make them feel smaller.

 

[Thorn]

That's a different matter

People can believe what they want to believe, that's pretty fundamental to freedom. If they want to open a museum for there beliefs who cares.

that's a far cry from demanding those beliefs be taught in public schools, then it crosses a line where i believe it matters.

if they have their own place and they are spending their money to support their beliefs i don't feel a need to be upset

My point is that the reason why you have yahoos trying to inject this crap into public schools/text books is because of organizations/churches like this.

Not to mention how they're contributing to the dumbing-down of our general populice.

Indeed.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

That's a different matter

People can believe what they want to believe, that's pretty fundamental to freedom. If they want to open a museum for there beliefs who cares.

that's a far cry from demanding those beliefs be taught in public schools, then it crosses a line where i believe it matters.

if they have their own place and they are spending their money to support their beliefs i don't feel a need to be upset

My point is that the reason why you have yahoos trying to inject this crap into public schools/text books is because of organizations/churches like this.

Not to mention how they're contributing to the dumbing-down of our general populice.

Indeed.

Yep.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with

some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do.

freedom, it is america

if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance.

We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do

i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama

there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside

if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

I don't see why ridiculous, unsubstantiated beliefs should be tolerated. Should we tolerate the beliefs of people who think the earth is flat? That 1+1=3? That underpants gnomes exist? That Don and Dawn rhyme?

why tolerate people that think global warming is real, or fake?

why tolerate people who vote different from you?

why tolerate people who chose to live in another counrty?

why tolerate people who play the lotto?

why tolerate people who liked the movie eyes wide shut?

there's likely something that you do/say/believe/like that someone else deems ridiculous

you are under no obligation to be tolerant, but it is something i would ask christians to be so it is something i would also ask non-christians to be

now if we are talking about racism, abuse, things of that nature that is a different story

but if my neighbor, lets call him Larry, is a kind and normal person who also believes god created the world in 6 days and then took a snoozer on day 7, I am doing myself and the world disservice by rejecting him completely over that one belief

that's just my 2 cents though

You're still missing the point.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with

some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do.

freedom, it is america

if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance.

We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do

i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama

there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside

if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

I don't see why ridiculous, unsubstantiated beliefs should be tolerated. Should we tolerate the beliefs of people who think the earth is flat? That 1+1=3? That underpants gnomes exist? That Don and Dawn rhyme?

About the underpants gnomes -- go on...

 

[Cliff Clavin]

eh not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do. freedom, it is america if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance. We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

I don't see why ridiculous, unsubstantiated beliefs should be tolerated. Should we tolerate the beliefs of people who think the earth is flat? That 1+1=3? That underpants gnomes exist? That Don and Dawn rhyme?

why tolerate people that think global warming is real, or fake?why tolerate people who vote different from you?why tolerate people who chose to live in another counrty?why tolerate people who play the lotto?why tolerate people who liked the movie eyes wide shut? there's likely something that you do/say/believe/like that someone else deems ridiculous you are under no obligation to be tolerant, but it is something i would ask christians to be so it is something i would also ask non-christians to be now if we are talking about racism, abuse, things of that nature that is a different story but if my neighbor, lets call him Larry, is a kind and normal person who also believes god created the world in 6 days and then took a snoozer on day 7, I am doing myself and the world disservice by rejecting him completely over that one belief that's just my 2 cents though

You're confusing tolerating the belief vs tolerating the person. Of course you tolerate the person (unless they are a terrible person). Of all your examples, only global warming fits. The rest are opinions based on personal preference. Global warming is based on facts. Playing the lotto is not a belief. It may be a poor decision which can be proven mathematically but it is not a belief. Believing you have a better chance of winning because you have "lucky numbers" is a belief which is completely unfounded, worthy of ridicule and is not something I'd "tolerate".

 

[Parrothead]

these people are bat#### crazy.. I'm just glad they aren't bat#### crazy enough to blow stuff up in the name of creationism..

 

[Leroy Hoard]

these people are bat#### crazy.. I'm just glad they aren't bat#### crazy enough to blow stuff up in the name of creationism..

building dragons > building bombs

 

[General Malaise]

these people are bat#### crazy.. I'm just glad they aren't bat#### crazy enough to blow stuff up in the name of creationism..

True, though to be fair, there's some dead abortion doctors who weren't killed by muslims...

 

[Smack Tripper]

I went to this thing about 2 years ago. Had seen it I think in the maher doc "Relgiulous". Made a wrong turn leaving a casino and ran right into it. It's probably 20 minutes outside of Cincy.

I went to gawk and mock but that is NOT the vibe. It's kind of creepy and stepford wives-y. I thought it might not be wise to poke fun but then again I was solo. Everyone was polite so I respected their belief. Lots of mennonite families as I recall.

Have to say, for ideas this wacky, it was Fairly well done. They definitely didn't scrimp, lots of animatronics, a decent planetarium setup, but at the end I the day it's just BIZARRE. LIttle kids and let dinosaurs.

They had a cross section of the ark though which was actually kind of cool

To see how this could have possibly been conceived. Last I heard they were fundraising to build an actual replica of the ark based on biblical dimensions.

I can't recommend a trip but if you're ever in Cincy or eastern Indy with time to kill, it's an experience all right.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

these people are bat#### crazy.. I'm just glad they aren't bat#### crazy enough to blow stuff up in the name of creationism..

True, though to be fair, there's some dead abortion doctors who weren't killed by muslims...

"Oh! No TRUE Christian would ever do that!"

 

[McGarnicle]

Interesting they have dinosaur bones. I'm wondering how they explain away the bible's time discrepancies with science? Carbon dating is a tool of Satan?

I believe it's that God has made them appear older is their explanation.

Seriously?

 

[B-Deep]

eh not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do. freedom, it is america if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance. We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

I don't see why ridiculous, unsubstantiated beliefs should be tolerated. Should we tolerate the beliefs of people who think the earth is flat? That 1+1=3? That underpants gnomes exist? That Don and Dawn rhyme?

why tolerate people that think global warming is real, or fake?why tolerate people who vote different from you?why tolerate people who chose to live in another counrty?why tolerate people who play the lotto?why tolerate people who liked the movie eyes wide shut? there's likely something that you do/say/believe/like that someone else deems ridiculous you are under no obligation to be tolerant, but it is something i would ask christians to be so it is something i would also ask non-christians to be now if we are talking about racism, abuse, things of that nature that is a different story but if my neighbor, lets call him Larry, is a kind and normal person who also believes god created the world in 6 days and then took a snoozer on day 7, I am doing myself and the world disservice by rejecting him completely over that one belief that's just my 2 cents though

You're confusing tolerating the belief vs tolerating the person. Of course you tolerate the person (unless they are a terrible person). Of all your examples, only global warming fits. The rest are opinions based on personal preference. Global warming is based on facts. Playing the lotto is not a belief. It may be a poor decision which can be proven mathematically but it is not a belief. Believing you have a better chance of winning because you have "lucky numbers" is a belief which is completely unfounded, worthy of ridicule and is not something I'd "tolerate".

you say global warming is based on facts

others argue it is not

i am unsure as to which side i should be intolerant of

millions of people play the lotto believeing they will win

i also tolerate people who believe there are aliens, and people who believe there are not, even people who believe we have been visited

hell, i'll tolerate people who believe in bigfoot

right up until they try and tell me I must believe in bigfoot

of course if I tell them they must not, I am doing what i won't tolerate them doing.

 

[Jayrok]

I went to this thing about 2 years ago. Had seen it I think in the maher doc "Relgiulous". Made a wrong turn leaving a casino and ran right into it. It's probably 20 minutes outside of Cincy.I went to gawk and mock but that is NOT the vibe. It's kind of creepy and stepford wives-y. I thought it might not be wise to poke fun but then again I was solo. Everyone was polite so I respected their belief. Lots of mennonite families as I recall.Have to say, for ideas this wacky, it was Fairly well done. They definitely didn't scrimp, lots of animatronics, a decent planetarium setup, but at the end I the day it's just BIZARRE. LIttle kids and let dinosaurs.They had a cross section of the ark though which was actually kind of coolTo see how this could have possibly been conceived. Last I heard they were fundraising to build an actual replica of the ark based on biblical dimensions.I can't recommend a trip but if you're ever in Cincy or eastern Indy with time to kill, it's an experience all right.

Did you see Mr. Wilhelm cleaning the carpets?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

eh not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do. freedom, it is america if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance. We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

I don't see why ridiculous, unsubstantiated beliefs should be tolerated. Should we tolerate the beliefs of people who think the earth is flat? That 1+1=3? That underpants gnomes exist? That Don and Dawn rhyme?

why tolerate people that think global warming is real, or fake?why tolerate people who vote different from you?why tolerate people who chose to live in another counrty?why tolerate people who play the lotto?why tolerate people who liked the movie eyes wide shut? there's likely something that you do/say/believe/like that someone else deems ridiculous you are under no obligation to be tolerant, but it is something i would ask christians to be so it is something i would also ask non-christians to be now if we are talking about racism, abuse, things of that nature that is a different story but if my neighbor, lets call him Larry, is a kind and normal person who also believes god created the world in 6 days and then took a snoozer on day 7, I am doing myself and the world disservice by rejecting him completely over that one belief that's just my 2 cents though

You're confusing tolerating the belief vs tolerating the person. Of course you tolerate the person (unless they are a terrible person). Of all your examples, only global warming fits. The rest are opinions based on personal preference. Global warming is based on facts. Playing the lotto is not a belief. It may be a poor decision which can be proven mathematically but it is not a belief. Believing you have a better chance of winning because you have "lucky numbers" is a belief which is completely unfounded, worthy of ridicule and is not something I'd "tolerate".

you say global warming is based on facts

others argue it is not

i am unsure as to which side i should be intolerant of

millions of people play the lotto believeing they will win

i also tolerate people who believe there are aliens, and people who believe there are not, even people who believe we have been visited

hell, i'll tolerate people who believe in bigfoot

right up until they try and tell me I must believe in bigfoot

of course if I tell them they must not, I am doing what i won't tolerate them doing.

Way to completely miss the point.

Yes, the person should be tolerated. But their completely unfounded beliefs should not. If you believe you have a better than 1 in X (x being whatever the actual odds are for that lotto) chance at winning the lottery, that belief is wrong and should be called out.

And if you're denying the overwhelming evidence of global warming, I don't know what to tell you other than your belief is ridiculous on the subject is ridiculous and wrong. See what I did there? I called your belief ridiculous, not you.

 

[B-Deep]

eh not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do. freedom, it is america if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance. We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

I don't see why ridiculous, unsubstantiated beliefs should be tolerated. Should we tolerate the beliefs of people who think the earth is flat? That 1+1=3? That underpants gnomes exist? That Don and Dawn rhyme?

why tolerate people that think global warming is real, or fake?why tolerate people who vote different from you?why tolerate people who chose to live in another counrty?why tolerate people who play the lotto?why tolerate people who liked the movie eyes wide shut? there's likely something that you do/say/believe/like that someone else deems ridiculous you are under no obligation to be tolerant, but it is something i would ask christians to be so it is something i would also ask non-christians to be now if we are talking about racism, abuse, things of that nature that is a different story but if my neighbor, lets call him Larry, is a kind and normal person who also believes god created the world in 6 days and then took a snoozer on day 7, I am doing myself and the world disservice by rejecting him completely over that one belief that's just my 2 cents though

You're confusing tolerating the belief vs tolerating the person. Of course you tolerate the person (unless they are a terrible person). Of all your examples, only global warming fits. The rest are opinions based on personal preference. Global warming is based on facts. Playing the lotto is not a belief. It may be a poor decision which can be proven mathematically but it is not a belief. Believing you have a better chance of winning because you have "lucky numbers" is a belief which is completely unfounded, worthy of ridicule and is not something I'd "tolerate".

you say global warming is based on facts

others argue it is not

i am unsure as to which side i should be intolerant of

millions of people play the lotto believeing they will win

i also tolerate people who believe there are aliens, and people who believe there are not, even people who believe we have been visited

hell, i'll tolerate people who believe in bigfoot

right up until they try and tell me I must believe in bigfoot

of course if I tell them they must not, I am doing what i won't tolerate them doing.

Way to completely miss the point.

Yes, the person should be tolerated. But their completely unfounded beliefs should not. If you believe you have a better than 1 in X (x being whatever the actual odds are for that lotto) chance at winning the lottery, that belief is wrong and should be called out.

And if you're denying the overwhelming evidence of global warming, I don't know what to tell you other than your belief is ridiculous on the subject is ridiculous and wrong. See what I did there? I called your belief ridiculous, not you.

I did not deny it, but there are plenty who do

some of them governing our country

and most people with beliefs will have trouble believing you are tolerant of them as you belittle their beliefs

but if the posts in this thread make people feel tolerant than that is worth something

 

[teamramrod]

wait wait wait...

This is in Kentucky?????

SURPRISE FACE!!!

peace

 

[jdoggydogg]

eh

not too sure why this should bother anyone

Because when we replace science with magic thinking we end up in trouble. When we indoctrinate future citizens with woefully inadequate scientific knowledge or mislead them to think science is evil we suffer as an economy and as a country.

freedom lets people make choices you or I disagree with

some would argue when we indoctrinate children with liberal ideals the same happens, others would argue conservative ideals do.

freedom, it is america

if you don't like it, don't go

You're right. We have the freedom to construct artifices that are living tributes to fake science and ignorance.

We also have the right to mock this place.

you sure do

i also do not believe in reincarnation, but i respect the Dali Lama

there are different paths for different people, but tolerance should be on everyone's path. Many people inside the museum could use this lesson, as could many outside

if someone is trying to force their views on me, or debate them with me, or force them on others then there is an issue, i see nothing to be gained by mocking them for discussing their views among like minded folk

This is a reasonable, well-written response.

I am all for religious freedom. But I find blanket rejection of established science to be intolerable.

 

[jdoggydogg]

you say global warming is based on facts

others argue it is not

These "others" you speak of are not scientists. There isn't two sides to every argument.

 

[tri-man 47]

Between the koi pond and the camel ride ...IN.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Ironic that people drive to this museum using fossil fuels composed of organisms that are 650 million years old.

 

[cstu]

Ironic that people drive to this museum using fossil fuels composed of organisms that are 650 million years old.

 

[joffer]

Which dinosaurs were rideable?

 

[Parrothead]

Which dinosaurs were rideable?

the vegetarians

 

[babydemon90]

Interesting they have dinosaur bones. I'm wondering how they explain away the bible's time discrepancies with science? Carbon dating is a tool of Satan?

I believe it's that God has made them appear older is their explanation.

Seriously?

No - usually the response is that carbon dating is not foolproof, and sometimes gives inaccurate readings. The claim is that false assumptions are made about the starting nature of the the atoms involved.

 

[babydemon90]

FWIW - as someone who used to be a Young Earth Creationist - many of the people who believe this are, in every other way, perfectly normal. However, their belief in the Bible as true is fundamental. In this case, they have decided that they must interpret Genesis literally, including counting up all the years of people's lives, etc.. to arrive at a young age for the earth. Since they are unable to accept that they are interpreting Genesis wrong, any science that contradicts their belief must be wrong. So, they try to find ways around it by constructing scientific proofs that disagree with mainstream science. But they never look at any scientific evidence, and try and base their views off what the evidence is showing. They don't make any predictions based on their beliefs, and see if it backs up the YEC theory.

 

[Dickies]

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