Creepy Mail (2 Viewers)

[snogger]

Ahh, yes and never really noticed. I assumed each city had unique postmark. 

 we live in Western Wisconsin. If I mail something to my Dad, who lives 15 miles away still in Wisconsin, the post mark is always St. Paul. 

 

[BigJim®]

https://imgur.com/upload  No account needed.  Just drag, drop, and copy and paste the link here.

https://imgur.com/a/6oPgQOF

 

[dickey moe]

Definitely a girl in his class or online that likes him.  

The question is how did she find his address.  My guess is that it is someone who lives close by.

Definitely a girl?

 

[identikit]

Definitely a girl in his class or online that likes him.  

The question is how did she find his address.  My guess is that it is someone who lives close by.

This isn't hard.

 

[JaxBill]

if he gets an ace, 10 or face card next, tell him to stay. 

 

[dhockster]

if he gets an ace, 10 or face card next, tell him to stay. 

If he gets a 4 next, tell him to double down.

 

[BigJim®]

If he gets a 4 next, tell him to double down.

And split 7's, right? 

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Personally, I would not allow anonymous mail to be given to him not that you know.  Anonymous letters are just not acceptable.

 

[BigJim®]

Personally, I would not allow anonymous mail to be given to him not that you know.  Anonymous letters are just not acceptable.

I understand that angle, but we didn't know it was an anonymous letter until he opened it. Suspected it was a classmate communication based on the stickers. Out of curiosity, if you opened this yourself , would you have told your 15 year old about it after determining it was anonymous? 

FWIW- I did have the "If this is some sort of teenager challenge game thing that's going around, don't do it" discussion. I don't think it is.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

I understand that angle, but we didn't know it was an anonymous letter until he opened it.

I meant going forward.  There was mention of possible future mail.

I would not have opened his mail at all.  But now, i would monitor the mail and intercept anything of this sort.  A discussion of why would also be necessary.

 

[cosjobs]

https://7ofhearts.com/

Tuff nut solved this three days ago

 

[DallasDMac]

It's sad that in today's world, something like this can immediately trigger fear and suspicion. By sad, I mean because it is probably warranted. It would be interesting to see how parents would have responded to his say 30 or 40 years ago.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

It's sad that in today's world, something like this can immediately trigger fear and suspicion. By sad, I mean because it is probably warranted. It would be interesting to see how parents would have responded to his say 30 or 40 years ago.

Would have been the same reaction for me.  Anonymous mail is not acceptable.  It has nothing to do with "today's world" for me.

 

[DallasDMac]

Would have been the same reaction for me.  Anonymous mail is not acceptable.  It has nothing to do with "today's world" for me.

I can guarantee my parents would have thought... "Ah, someone has a crush." No way they would have thought it was a big deal in the slightest. This would have been in the 70s.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

I can guarantee my parents would have thought... "Ah, someone has a crush." No way they would have thought it was a big deal in the slightest. This would have been in the 70s.

And I would have thought it was a crush, too.  Anonymous mail is not acceptable.

 

[nirad3]

I would sit down and watch Fatal Attraction and Swimfan with him, then tell him to live his life. 

Totally underrated / under-the-radar flick.  A girl I used to *ahem* date was a groupie of the band that did the "main" song in that movie.  Good times.

 

[BigJim®]

I can guarantee my parents would have thought... "Ah, someone has a crush." No way they would have thought it was a big deal in the slightest. This would have been in the 70s.

I agree with this. The world is a lot bigger for kids these days though. Mine do a lot of online gaming, Tik Tok, Insta. We tell them not to give out personal info, and they say they don't, and I believe they don't, but... kids. For my parents, the 'world' was the size of the neighborhood we roamed, maybe the mall or movie theater on occasion. A letter like this in the mail couldn't have been anyone but a schoolmate (as I'm confident this one was, FWIW).

 

[El Floppo]

I agree with this. The world is a lot bigger for kids these days though. Mine do a lot of online gaming, Tik Tok, Insta. We tell them not to give out personal info, and they say they don't, and I believe they don't, but... kids. For my parents, the 'world' was the size of the neighborhood we roamed, maybe the mall or movie theater on occasion. A letter like this in the mail couldn't have been anyone but a schoolmate (as I'm confident this one was, FWIW).

But apparently completely unacceptable. UNACCEPTABLE.

 

[BigJim®]

But apparently completely unacceptable. UNACCEPTABLE.

I appreciate all thoughts offered. I think anonymous mail may or may not be a threat, a code-dare, really anything. It’s why I made my OP. Not sure why you disagree it’s unacceptable. If the narrative posted by another (7 of hearts is a thank you of sorts), thank the person by name. I mentioned this possibility to my son and he had no idea of that ‘code’ nor who would send something like that. So it clearly wasn’t the right way to communicate.

 

[rockaction]

I appreciate all thoughts offered. I think anonymous mail may or may not be a threat, a code-dare, really anything. It’s why I made my OP. Not sure why you disagree it’s unacceptable. If the narrative posted by another (7 of hearts is a thank you of sorts), thank the person by name. I mentioned this possibility to my son and he had no idea of that ‘code’ nor who would send something like that. So it clearly wasn’t the right way to communicate.

He's making fun of Mrs. R.'s repeated use of the term "unacceptable." 

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

He's making fun of Mrs. R.'s repeated use of the term "unacceptable." 

He is, but that really doesn't change anything.  You can't know the mental state of fthe sender if you don't know who it is.  It might be all puppy love, but it could also turn unggod with rejection.  And nothing good ever came of anonymous notes.  Check out WWI and white feathers.

 

[rockaction]

He is, but that really doesn't change anything.  You can't know the mental state of fthe sender if you don't know who it is.  It might be all puppy love, but it could also turn unggod with rejection.  And nothing good ever came of anonymous notes.  Check out WWI and white feathers.

 I was being value neutral in my judgment. I was merely explaining the joke, Mrs. R. 

I have no real position on anonymous notes. 

 

[El Floppo]

 I was being value neutral in my judgment. I was merely explaining the joke, Mrs. R. 

I have no real position on anonymous notes. 

Yes. Mine was a joke as well.

I disagree with Mrs Rs stance directed from the era of my childhood 70s/80s. but these days there are so many anonymous trolls with a huge degree of intent- from pokey to genuinely evil, I accept it's less cool.

but I was more mirroring the "inconceivable" from princess bride in my op.

 

[scorchy]

Hmmm, my family also received some unacceptable anonymous mail around 10 years ago that I still think about every January.  I don't want to usurp @BigJim® here - should I post the letter in a separate thread or can this one be a catchall for all creepy/anonymous mail?

 

[Cjw_55106]

It's sad that in today's world, something like this can immediately trigger fear and suspicion. By sad, I mean because it is probably warranted. It would be interesting to see how parents would have responded to his say 30 or 40 years ago.

They would have wondered why someone is ruining a perfectly good deck of cards. 

 

[BigJim®]

Hmmm, my family also received some unacceptable anonymous mail around 10 years ago that I still think about every January.  I don't want to usurp @BigJim® here - should I post the letter in a separate thread or can this one be a catchall for all creepy/anonymous mail?

By all means, open the floor for other creepy mail examples. I think mine is resolved as much as it will/can.

 

[scorchy]

So here's my anonymous mail story.  My family and our two next-door neighbors both received this letter in January 2011, a few weeks after all of us celebrated the first Christmas in our new houses.  Turns out that it was also sent to everyone on our street and at least a few houses the next one over. 

Dear Neighbor,

The year 2010 has brought our community a few new lovely houses.  Yes, we lost some privately owned forest, but the houses are beautiful.  I unfortunately cannot say the same thing about the new owner(s) treatment of the adjoining state park.

On a recent walk in the park with my children, we came upon a most aggravating sight.  Someone put forth quite the effort to carry their Christmas tree about 200 yards into the park and dump it.  The dumper (henceforth referred to as "you") dropped the refuse in a place frequented by many of your neighbors.  This outcropping of rock is nicknamed "the fox hole." This is a great place to find newts, toads, ants, and various bugs.  Normal courteous folks see the beauty and natural gift we have in the park land.  You obviously see a convenient place to stash your trash.

I don't know where you grew up or what your parents taught you about respect but in the age of environmental awareness, ever-increasing population density, and decreasing forest, you would think you would take pause and realize IT"S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU!

Considering the price you pay to live in this neighborhood, it's safe to say you are an educated person.  Although education does not necessarily equate to having class or respect for others, it does suggest you have the ability to learn.  I hope this letter finds "you" and you will go pick up your fat spruce and dispose of it properly.  Trust me, it's not going anywhere for a long, long time.  Don't kid yourself that because it's a tree, it's OK - it's human trash!

Sincerely,

Aggravated Neighbor

For the record - (a) it wasn't us that ditched a tree and (b) our properties extend beyond 200 yards into the woods (it's a forest conservation area) and what they refer to as the "fox hole" is part of my neighbor's "back yard."

Every year that I drag my tree up the drive to be picked up by the county, I pull out this letter and read it.  I guess that means they got their way, but it's just so annoyingly written and sanctimonious that it still makes me shake my head.  I mean, at some point, their house was pristine forest too.  And mailing it anonymously to everyone in the vicinity was an extra-##### move.  I have strong suspicions about which neighbor wrote the letter, and every time I see her, it's hard not to make mention of it.

 

[BigJim®]

He is, but that really doesn't change anything.  You can't know the mental state of the sender if you don't know who it is.  It might be all puppy love, but it could also turn ungood with rejection.  And nothing good ever came of anonymous notes.  Check out WWI and white feathers.

Right. Any actual belief that a coded message will be understood is a bad sign of one's sense of reality.

 

[Mookie]

So here's my anonymous mail story.  My family and our two next-door neighbors both received this letter in January 2011, a few weeks after all of us celebrated the first Christmas in our new houses.  Turns out that it was also sent to everyone on our street and at least a few houses the next one over. 

For the record - (a) it wasn't us that ditched a tree and (b) our properties extend beyond 200 yards into the woods (it's a forest conservation area) and what they refer to as the "fox hole" is part of my neighbor's "back yard."

Every year that I drag my tree up the drive to be picked up by the county, I pull out this letter and read it.  I guess that means they got their way, but it's just so annoyingly written and sanctimonious that it still makes me shake my head.  I mean, at some point, their house was pristine forest too.  And mailing it anonymously to everyone in the vicinity was an extra-##### move.  I have strong suspicions about which neighbor wrote the letter, and every time I see her, it's hard not to make mention of it.

Dumping the tree is a really trashy move (unless it was done by the property owner), but I agree that the letter was WAY over the top and misinformed since it implies that the "fox hole" is public property.  The person who wrote it obviously opposed the new construction and was likely quite vocal about it, as her/his house likely used to be bordered by the forest area.     

 

[scorchy]

Dumping the tree is a really trashy move (unless it was done by the property owner), but I agree that the letter was WAY over the top and misinformed since it implies that the "fox hole" is public property.  The person who wrote it obviously opposed the new construction and was likely quite vocal about it, as her/his house likely used to be bordered by the forest area.     

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was my neighbor and it was on his property.  I wouldn't have done it, but articles I read post-letter said that discarded trees often are great for smaller animals.  I mean, we have plenty of naturally downed trees behind our house that squirrels and racoons call home.  On the other hand, if he had done this every year, that would start to be a lot of dead xmas trees.

Regardless, the letter writer sounds insufferable ("lovely", "take pause", "henceforth") and if she has the cojones to bring our parents into the conservation, then she should have had the courage of her convictions and signed her name.

 

[Sand]

I was going to jokingly asked if you had watched Alice in Borderland.  I did a google image search and this was one of the first results.

Definitely this.  I'd make sure your son is armed with a couple firearms, a samurai sword, and a dagger, just in case.

 

[jhib]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was my neighbor and it was on his property.  I wouldn't have done it, but articles I read post-letter said that discarded trees often are great for smaller animals.  I mean, we have plenty of naturally downed trees behind our house that squirrels and racoons call home.  On the other hand, if he had done this every year, that would start to be a lot of dead xmas trees.

Regardless, the letter writer sounds insufferable ("lovely", "take pause", "henceforth") and if she has the cojones to bring our parents into the conservation, then she should have had the courage of her convictions and signed her name.

I always put my tree out in the yard by a brush pile, partly for that purpose of providing some shelter for animals (plus I'm usually too late getting it out for pickup anyway).  Then I usually end up burning it in my fire pit by the end of the summer.

If I were your neighbor, I'd have a hard time not posting no trespassing signs around the area and if anyone complained,  I'd say they are necessary to protect the newts, toads, ants, and various bugs that people keep messing with.

 

[rockaction]

Don't kid yourself that because it's a tree, it's OK - it's human trash!

That seems like a stretch if you ask me, and I would have quibbled about it a bit with the writer. Styrofoam? Human trash. Wastepaper? Human trash. Tree? Not so much human trash. 

 

[rockaction]

newts

Speaking of, remember when he was Not Necessarily The News's "##### Of The Week" for about eight weeks solid? 

Funnier times. 

 

[El Floppo]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was my neighbor and it was on his property.  I wouldn't have done it, but articles I read post-letter said that discarded trees often are great for smaller animals.  I mean, we have plenty of naturally downed trees behind our house that squirrels and racoons call home.  On the other hand, if he had done this every year, that would start to be a lot of dead xmas trees.

Regardless, the letter writer sounds insufferable ("lovely", "take pause", "henceforth") and if she has the cojones to bring our parents into the conservation, then she should have had the courage of her convictions and signed her name.

The letter didn't bother me.

A new neighbor dumped crap in shared space. The dumping of said crap bothers me far more than lovely henceforth language. 

But yeah, s/he could have signed their name...not sure why it needed to be anonymous at all. And definitely not creepy heretofore.

 

[El Floppo]

That seems like a stretch if you ask me, and I would have quibbled about it a bit with the writer. Styrofoam? Human trash. Wastepaper? Human trash. Tree? Not so much human trash. 

You monster...forthwith.

 

[scorchy]

The letter didn't bother me.

A new neighbor dumped crap in shared space. 

Not in shared space.  The writer only thought it was.  

 

[El Floppo]

Not in shared space.  The writer only thought it was.  

Ah... I missed the bottom part of your op. 

So this person had a history of taking their kids through this previously shared area to this foxhole, but it's been developed and is now private property? 

Whip her to death!

 

[scorchy]

Ah... I missed the bottom part of your op. 

So this person had a history of taking their kids through this previously shared area to this foxhole, but it's been developed and is now private property? 

Whip her to death!

Yeah, the older couple who used to live at the top of our hill had a great mid-century modern overlooking acres of woods.  They sold 8 acres to a local developer who only cleared a small bit of it for 3 houses .  The woods literally start 10 feet behind my house and starting 50 feet back is a forest conservation area - meaning we can't build or clear even though it's our property (not that we would).  

I just really find the "lost some privately owned forest" line to be pretty rich.  The assumed writer's house was built 25 years earlier, and also abuts the woods and was part of privately owned forest.  I get being anti-development, but it also looks pretty hypocritical.  If I'm right, our kids went to elementary school together and we've been in each others houses.  I found her hugely annoying before the letter, which may be why I assume it's her that wrote it, even though the language, tone, and facts fit pretty well too.

 

[Psychopav]

I got a letter once.

 

[DallasDMac]

We got a letter today addressed to CURRENT RESIDENT with no return address on it. We went in to immediate lockdown.

 

[belljr]

The woods behind my house looks like a tree , bush, flower graveyard

 

[Dez89]

Funny how things that used to be fun, romantic, or normal are now "creepy."

 

[BigJim®]

Not the pay off some may want, but my mystery is solved.

Our son was partnered with his aunt in a card game tournament at thanksgiving that involves partners passing cards. He was miffed that she did not pass him the 7 in her hand that he obviously needed for them to win, and they lost. They are both ultra competitive, and there was some pot stirring ribbing still at the Christmas gathering. So, she mailed him a 7 and just now sent me wife a text asking if he got it. Picturing a 45 year old applying a bunch of unicorn and rainbow stickers on the envelope is still a tad creepy. 

 

[scorchy]

The woods behind my house looks like a tree , bush, flower graveyard

You monster!!!

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

Not the pay off some may want, but my mystery is solved.

Our son was partnered with his aunt in a card game tournament at thanksgiving that involves partners passing cards. He was miffed that she did not pass him the 7 in her hand that he obviously needed for them to win, and they lost. They are both ultra competitive, and there was some pot stirring ribbing still at the Christmas gathering. So, she mailed him a 7 and just now sent me wife a text asking if he got it. Picturing a 45 year old applying a bunch of unicorn and rainbow stickers on the envelope is still a tad creepy. 

Hmm. I wonder who she’s covering for. 

 

[El Floppo]

Not the pay off some may want, but my mystery is solved.

Our son was partnered with his aunt in a card game tournament at thanksgiving that involves partners passing cards. He was miffed that she did not pass him the 7 in her hand that he obviously needed for them to win, and they lost. They are both ultra competitive, and there was some pot stirring ribbing still at the Christmas gathering. So, she mailed him a 7 and just now sent me wife a text asking if he got it. Picturing a 45 year old applying a bunch of unicorn and rainbow stickers on the envelope is still a tad creepy. 

Unacceptable. Completely unacceptable.

 

[BigJim®]

Unacceptable. Completely unacceptable.

Sigh. You should just agree to disagree. I appreciated all perspectives received re: anonymous mail. I agreed with aspects of all of them.

 

[El Floppo]

Sigh. You should just agree to disagree. I appreciated all perspectives received re: anonymous mail. I agreed with aspects of all of them.

Its still a joke, Jim. An unacceptable joke.

 

[Galileo]

I always put my tree out in the yard by a brush pile, partly for that purpose of providing some shelter for animals (plus I'm usually too late getting it out for pickup anyway).  Then I usually end up burning it in my fire pit by the end of the summer.

If I were your neighbor, I'd have a hard time not posting no trespassing signs around the area and if anyone complained,  I'd say they are necessary to protect the newts, toads, ants, and various bugs that people keep messing with.