Crumpler cut (1 Viewer)

[PatrickT]

Posted in the Falcons thread, but thought this was important enough for it's own thread.

I hate this move. Maybe he was more injured than we knew, but he sure looked ok toward the end of the season.

 

[zadok]

How hurt IS he?

 

[zadok]

Seriously, I don't understand this. Wouldn't Crumpler be the best friend of a rookie QB??

 

[travdogg]

Wow, neither of those cuts make sense to me.

Crumpler is their 2nd best pass catcher who is coming of an injury-plagued year where he came on down the stretch.

I thought Leftwich would compete to start and with a full offseason with Atlanta he'd be pretty solid. Guess not.

 

[Black]

Leftwhich not even in the main title of this thread...wowsers.

I would think alot of teams might need a decent vet QB, given the carousel that happened last year.

 

[Jason Wood]

Leftwich isn't surprising; but Crumpler? WOW.

 

[PatrickT]

Leftwhich not even in the main title of this thread...wowsers. I would think alot of teams might need a decent vet QB, given the carousel that happened last year.

I think Leftwich's days as a starter are over, but I'm mildly surprised it was leftwich and not joey, considering the Smith ties in Jax.What I can't understand is not even trying to get anything for Crump.

 

[Couch Potato]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

 

[Jason Wood]

I could see Leftwich competing for the job in Kansas City; the Ravens also liked Leftwich back during that draft; not sure they would be willing to upset the apple cart though and bring him in.

 

[IndyHavoc]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Well, I sorta agree. Redman will be a MUCH better tutor to a rookie signal caller; might actually teach him something. Leftwich on the other hand would be a great example of how to NOT be an NFL-calibre QB for any rookie. This guy just refuses to work on the things that make someone a QB. Mechanics, mechanics, mechanics. Oh, and learning the playbook.Sorry to come across with vehemence vs. Lefty, I just think he's very talented, gutty, .....and as stubborn as my 4 year old. No place in a professional field for someone unwilling to change or adapt.

 

[Banger]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

 

[zadok]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Exactly what I think. Just put it in the eagles thread.

 

[Jason Wood]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Well sure, but let's see if he's healthy first.If so...

 

[Banger]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Well sure, but let's see if he's healthy first.If so...

He'd be a great addition.

 

[JohnnyU]

Dunn next? He counts over 6 MILLION against the cap. I guess he could always renegotiate his contract, but like most said in the Dunn thread, he's finished as a starter.

 

[Ray Pollett]

I'd sure like to see a source for this as no one else is reporting it.

 

[zadok]

I'd sure like to see a source for this as no one else is reporting it.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

 

[Couch Potato]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Well sure, but let's see if he's healthy first.If so...

The Eagles just franchised LJ Smith. I'm unclear as to how that works -- aren't they now committed to the terms of franchising him (avg of 5 highest TEs) or could they back out of that without signing him to a different deal? Seems to me the rules of franchising someone wouldn't let them just drop a guy after franchising him without incurring some cost or penalty.

 

[PatrickT]

I'd sure like to see a source for this as no one else is reporting it.

Sorry, had the link in the falcons thread, didn't transfer it to this one. I see it posted in here now, and it's also on the NFL and Falcons home pages.

 

[zadok]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Well sure, but let's see if he's healthy first.If so...

The Eagles just franchised LJ Smith. I'm unclear as to how that works -- aren't they now committed to the terms of franchising him (avg of 5 highest TEs) or could they back out of that without signing him to a different deal? Seems to me the rules of franchising someone wouldn't let them just drop a guy after franchising him without incurring some cost or penalty.

They have tagged and then lifted it twice before. See Trotter.

 

[Jason Wood]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Well sure, but let's see if he's healthy first.If so...

The Eagles just franchised LJ Smith. I'm unclear as to how that works -- aren't they now committed to the terms of franchising him (avg of 5 highest TEs) or could they back out of that without signing him to a different deal? Seems to me the rules of franchising someone wouldn't let them just drop a guy after franchising him without incurring some cost or penalty.

Once L.J. signs the tender, they would be bound to it contractually. But he hasn't signed the tender yet, so were they to pull it away, no penalty. They've done this twice before, with Trotter and Corey Simon.

 

[Beaumont]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Well sure, but let's see if he's healthy first.If so...

The Eagles just franchised LJ Smith. I'm unclear as to how that works -- aren't they now committed to the terms of franchising him (avg of 5 highest TEs) or could they back out of that without signing him to a different deal? Seems to me the rules of franchising someone wouldn't let them just drop a guy after franchising him without incurring some cost or penalty.

Once L.J. signs the tender, they would be bound to it contractually. But he hasn't signed the tender yet, so were they to pull it away, no penalty. They've done this twice before, with Trotter and Corey Simon.

And if they withdraw the tender he immediately becomes an unrestricted FA and they dont have a tag to use IIRC ...

 

[Couch Potato]

OK, thanks guys. LJ hasn't signed the tender yet, I gotcha. Makes sense now.

 

[Banger]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Well sure, but let's see if he's healthy first.If so...

The Eagles just franchised LJ Smith. I'm unclear as to how that works -- aren't they now committed to the terms of franchising him (avg of 5 highest TEs) or could they back out of that without signing him to a different deal? Seems to me the rules of franchising someone wouldn't let them just drop a guy after franchising him without incurring some cost or penalty.

Once L.J. signs the tender, they would be bound to it contractually. But he hasn't signed the tender yet, so were they to pull it away, no penalty. They've done this twice before, with Trotter and Corey Simon.

Something tells me LJ's agent is calling him right now telling him to put his name on the dotted line....

 

[Jason Wood]

1) I agree...Smith is probably going to race to sign his tender now

2) We don't know if Crumpler is really hurt; but I find it hard to believe the Falcons would let him go if he was perfectly healthy

3) If Crumpler IS healthy, he's going to have PLENTY of suitors

 

[Beaumont]

1) I agree...Smith is probably going to race to sign his tender now2) We don't know if Crumpler is really hurt; but I find it hard to believe the Falcons would let him go if he was perfectly healthy3) If Crumpler IS healthy, he's going to have PLENTY of suitors

I agree with this if he is healthy. My only caveat is Crumpler has slowed down quite a bit in the last year or two.Martrez Milner time?

 

[PatrickT]

1) I agree...Smith is probably going to race to sign his tender now2) We don't know if Crumpler is really hurt; but I find it hard to believe the Falcons would let him go if he was perfectly healthy3) If Crumpler IS healthy, he's going to have PLENTY of suitors

Assuming he's healthy, what do you think his trade value should have been? I probably never will, but I'd love to hear an explanation of why a trade wasn't attempted.

 

[zadok]

1) I agree...Smith is probably going to race to sign his tender now2) We don't know if Crumpler is really hurt; but I find it hard to believe the Falcons would let him go if he was perfectly healthy3) If Crumpler IS healthy, he's going to have PLENTY of suitors

Assuming he's healthy, what do you think his trade value should have been? I probably never will, but I'd love to hear an explanation of why a trade wasn't attempted.

Could it have had something to do with the fine for last years antics? The new regime is purging all of the Vick memories??

 

[Couch Potato]

Crumpler would be a nice fit in Seattle.

But...Martrez Milner now starts in ATL? Courtney Anderson?? They sure left a hole at the TE spot with Crumpler's release. There's no one on the current roster to step in who is sure to do a decent job of catching the ball. Blakely is the supposed TE2, but he's basically a blocker.

 

[Jason Wood]

1) I agree...Smith is probably going to race to sign his tender now2) We don't know if Crumpler is really hurt; but I find it hard to believe the Falcons would let him go if he was perfectly healthy3) If Crumpler IS healthy, he's going to have PLENTY of suitors

Assuming he's healthy, what do you think his trade value should have been? I probably never will, but I'd love to hear an explanation of why a trade wasn't attempted.

Well, trades for veterans in their prime are so rare; much less for a TE, I wouldn't begin to guess.

 

[aposulli]

Leftwhich not even in the main title of this thread...wowsers. I would think alot of teams might need a decent vet QB, given the carousel that happened last year.

I think Leftwich's days as a starter are over, but I'm mildly surprised it was leftwich and not joey, considering the Smith ties in Jax.What I can't understand is not even trying to get anything for Crump.

So all they have left is Harrington and Shockley? Redman is a UFA, but I've heard he was expected to return.

 

[Beaumont]

Crumpler would be a nice fit in Seattle.But...Martrez Milner now starts in ATL? Courtney Anderson?? They sure left a hole at the TE spot with Crumpler's release. There's no one on the current roster to step in who is sure to do a decent job.

I do think they liked what they saw in Milner. And he was a 4th rounder, so ... I would suspect they value him more than Anderson, who they picked up off the street, played in two games and put up zero stats ...

 

[Texasmouth]

Crumpler to Seattle makes the most sense to me. If he is healthy.....he is a perfect fit for them and would be a HUGE target for that offense. Crumpler is no slouch in the blocking department either.

Lefty is done. He was never that good in the first place in my opinion. I never thought that guy was a first round pick. He will be a career backup in my opinion. Maybe he can sign in Minnesota? Maybe Chicago?

 

[Beaumont]

Just a thought, but you saw a similar drop from Mia last year in Randy McMichael. An established, accomplished vet with no apparent attempt to trade him ...

That did happen later on in the offseason though ...

 

[Fiddles]

wiki says his dad played for the bills and his brother played for the seahawks if that means anything

 

[PatrickT]

From what I've been told, another reason to cut him might be because he really doesn't fit the Mularkey mold. I don't speak from experience here, but has Mularkey ever really utilized a primarily receiving TE? Doesn't he really want more of the blocking types?

 

[Couch Potato]

1) I agree...Smith is probably going to race to sign his tender now2) We don't know if Crumpler is really hurt; but I find it hard to believe the Falcons would let him go if he was perfectly healthy3) If Crumpler IS healthy, he's going to have PLENTY of suitors

Assuming he's healthy, what do you think his trade value should have been? I probably never will, but I'd love to hear an explanation of why a trade wasn't attempted.

Well, trades for veterans in their prime are so rare; much less for a TE, I wouldn't begin to guess.

And, at 30, a TE is no longer in his prime. They generally age more like RBs than like WRs. I also read at one point last year that Crumpler had slowed and put on some extra weight.

 

[prymetyme25]

Crumpler would be a nice fit in Seattle.But...Martrez Milner now starts in ATL? Courtney Anderson?? They sure left a hole at the TE spot with Crumpler's release. There's no one on the current roster to step in who is sure to do a decent job of catching the ball. Blakely is the supposed TE2, but he's basically a blocker.

Well the Falcons have 2 2nd and with Fred Davis and M. Bennett there they could think about a cheaper option. Even a guy like JerMicheal Finley in the later rounds wouldn't be a bad option.

 

[Sweet Love]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Well sure, but let's see if he's healthy first.If so...

The Eagles just franchised LJ Smith. I'm unclear as to how that works -- aren't they now committed to the terms of franchising him (avg of 5 highest TEs) or could they back out of that without signing him to a different deal? Seems to me the rules of franchising someone wouldn't let them just drop a guy after franchising him without incurring some cost or penalty.

Once L.J. signs the tender, they would be bound to it contractually. But he hasn't signed the tender yet, so were they to pull it away, no penalty. They've done this twice before, with Trotter and Corey Simon.

Something tells me LJ's agent is calling him right now telling him to put his name on the dotted line....

I was thinking the same thing! This is a good one-time payday for Smith all things considered. I don't think you will often see a non-elite player coming off an injury year get the franchise tag. So the speculation has to start, so where does the Crump land? I know they say locally that Carolina does not feature the TE, but Alge is from NC and the Panthers could sure use a target along side Smith.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I hope the Vikings were on the phone to his agent within five minutes of this news.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

1) I agree...Smith is probably going to race to sign his tender now2) We don't know if Crumpler is really hurt; but I find it hard to believe the Falcons would let him go if he was perfectly healthy3) If Crumpler IS healthy, he's going to have PLENTY of suitors

Assuming he's healthy, what do you think his trade value should have been? I probably never will, but I'd love to hear an explanation of why a trade wasn't attempted.

Could it have had something to do with the fine for last years antics? The new regime is purging all of the Vick memories??

I don't think they'll be cutting Roddy White who flashed his "Free Mike Vick" T-shirt on MNF.

 

[The_Burning_Bush]

Surprising, just cause he's hurt doesn't mean he's done.

I'd sign that.

 

[PatrickT]

1) I agree...Smith is probably going to race to sign his tender now2) We don't know if Crumpler is really hurt; but I find it hard to believe the Falcons would let him go if he was perfectly healthy3) If Crumpler IS healthy, he's going to have PLENTY of suitors

Assuming he's healthy, what do you think his trade value should have been? I probably never will, but I'd love to hear an explanation of why a trade wasn't attempted.

Could it have had something to do with the fine for last years antics? The new regime is purging all of the Vick memories??

Seriously doubt it, unless there's a LOT more there than was reported.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Crumpler would be a nice fit in Seattle.But...Martrez Milner now starts in ATL? Courtney Anderson?? They sure left a hole at the TE spot with Crumpler's release. There's no one on the current roster to step in who is sure to do a decent job of catching the ball. Blakely is the supposed TE2, but he's basically a blocker.

Go get him HAWKS!!!!!!Not to mention that Jim Mora Jr. is there this year and will be the head coach next year. It seems like a perfect fit.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Crumpler would be a nice fit in Seattle.But...Martrez Milner now starts in ATL? Courtney Anderson?? They sure left a hole at the TE spot with Crumpler's release. There's no one on the current roster to step in who is sure to do a decent job of catching the ball. Blakely is the supposed TE2, but he's basically a blocker.

Go get him HAWKS!!!!!!Not to mention that Jim Mora Jr. is there this year and will be the head coach next year. It seems like a perfect fit.

As well as Ruskell and Kerney.I am hoping Kerney and Crumpler are friends and Kerney is just raving about Seattle to Crumpler right now.

 

[switz]

Leftwich isn't surprising; but Crumpler? WOW.

Leftwich stinks, but Crumpler - maybe he is too injured

 

[jestertj]

I hope the Vikings were on the phone to his agent within five minutes of this news.

If they aren't all over this one, there will be plenty of pissed off fans.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Crumpler would be a nice fit in Seattle.But...Martrez Milner now starts in ATL? Courtney Anderson?? They sure left a hole at the TE spot with Crumpler's release. There's no one on the current roster to step in who is sure to do a decent job of catching the ball. Blakely is the supposed TE2, but he's basically a blocker.

Go get him HAWKS!!!!!!Not to mention that Jim Mora Jr. is there this year and will be the head coach next year. It seems like a perfect fit.

As well as Ruskell and Kerney.I am hoping Kerney and Crumpler are friends and Kerney is just raving about Seattle to Crumpler right now.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

 

[Londo]

Given the Falcons PR nightmare with the Vick situation, I wonder if there is a chance Crumpler may have some legal trouble brewing that we don't yet know about.

If not, this was just an insane move.