Crumpler cut (1 Viewer)

[jestertj]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

If the Vikings sniff anywhere near this guy, they're crazy. Chase Crumpler and/or DE like Jason Taylor.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

If the Vikings sniff anywhere near this guy, they're crazy. Chase Crumpler and/or DE like Jason Taylor.

'cause he's not better than Tarvaris Jackson? Right . . .Just two years ago, he was seen by many as a franchise QB. You can kick him while he's down, but he will be heard from again. And he'd be an upgrade several situations around the league right now.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

If the Vikings sniff anywhere near this guy, they're crazy. Chase Crumpler and/or DE like Jason Taylor.

'cause he's not better than Tarvaris Jackson? Right . . .Just two years ago, he was seen by many as a franchise QB. You can kick him while he's down, but he will be heard from again. And he'd be an upgrade several situations around the league right now.

Signed,Byron's MomI'd rather roll the dice on Tarvaris' upside than settle for Leftwich's plateau.

 

[jestertj]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

If the Vikings sniff anywhere near this guy, they're crazy. Chase Crumpler and/or DE like Jason Taylor.

'cause he's not better than Tarvaris Jackson? Right . . .Just two years ago, he was seen by many as a franchise QB. You can kick him while he's down, but he will be heard from again. And he'd be an upgrade several situations around the league right now.

He's not cut out for the NFL. He might be able to throw it through a wall, but his big, long, slow delivery & lack of mobility isn't what I'm looking for.I like TJ.

 

[Jason Wood]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

Realistically, KC is a much better fit than Minnesota. Brad Childress is a tried and true WCO guy and Leftwich isn't a WCO QB. Remember, the knock on him (proven to be true) is that he played a quirky offensive system in college and spent the majority of his career in the shotgun. It just doesn't make sense for a team to bring in Leftwich and try to retrofit him into a WCO system; he's not suited for it. Now put him in a run heavy system with a good line and let him throw deep off play action? Yeah...some team might get that to work; at least that would be worth a try.

 

[Tecmo]

Crump has lost way too much speed, he's looks way too fat, he's dropping balls left and right, and the injuries. Please don't put Crump and the Vikes in the same sentence, thx

 

[jestertj]

Crump has lost way too much speed, he's looks way too fat, he's dropping balls left and right, and the injuries. Please don't put Crump and the Vikes in the same sentence, thx

Sorry man, but I don't mind rolling the dice with this guy when we don't have anyone on the team that's ever put up numbers close to his.

 

[Fiddles]

better have one hell of an oline if you sign leftwich

he was beyond terrible for the falcons

he made joey look good and thats saying something

 

[PatrickT]

Crump has lost way too much speed, he's looks way too fat, he's dropping balls left and right, and the injuries. Please don't put Crump and the Vikes in the same sentence, thx

If it hadn't been for Crump, Vick might not have thrown for 2000 yards in a season. This could only benefit TJ. Unless they think whathisname is the guy.

 

[JohnnyU]

Crump has lost way too much speed, he's looks way too fat, he's dropping balls left and right, and the injuries. Please don't put Crump and the Vikes in the same sentence, thx

If it hadn't been for Crump, Vick might not have thrown for 2000 yards in a season.

Yesterday's stats mean very little if there are other factors today.

 

[PatrickT]

Crump has lost way too much speed, he's looks way too fat, he's dropping balls left and right, and the injuries. Please don't put Crump and the Vikes in the same sentence, thx

If it hadn't been for Crump, Vick might not have thrown for 2000 yards in a season.

Yesterday's stats mean very little if there are other factors today.

True, my point was don't underestimate the value of a top TE. But I get you, I really wasn't speaking to his point very well. But other than the unknown health issues, I think the lost speed and too fat stuff are incorrect.

 

[az_prof]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

No one is going to sign Leftwich to be a starter right now. You are dreaming. He was beat out in Jacksonville by a very average QB and now he lost the job in Atlanta to Redman and Harrington??? Hard to know about Crumpler's value until you know where he goes and whether or not he is seriously injured. Maybe his career is over; we don't know.

 

[David Yudkin]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

Realistically, KC is a much better fit than Minnesota. Brad Childress is a tried and true WCO guy and Leftwich isn't a WCO QB. Remember, the knock on him (proven to be true) is that he played a quirky offensive system in college and spent the majority of his career in the shotgun. It just doesn't make sense for a team to bring in Leftwich and try to retrofit him into a WCO system; he's not suited for it. Now put him in a run heavy system with a good line and let him throw deep off play action? Yeah...some team might get that to work; at least that would be worth a try.

If Leftwich is willing to play second fiddle and play for a lot less than he's used to, I can see NE having an interest in him. As you said, he's used to shotgun based offenses and NE fits the bill in that area. Not sure that this would be his first or second choice, but . . .

 

[mad sweeney]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Either one I'm sure the Seahawks will try to scoop up. Brother Carlester had a nice career in the NW, maybe that will swing Alge our way.

 

[Truman]

Crumpler has been having knee problems the last couple years - I think he's had surgery each of the last two offseasons and he wasn't practicing much at all the last half of the season.

 

[FTRWRTR]

Cutting crumpler isn't that big of a deal. Just because a team cuts a player doesn't mean they don't want him. Teams cut players to save money and then the hope is they can resign the player at a much lower price. It happens every year.

 

[az_prof]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

If the Vikings sniff anywhere near this guy, they're crazy. Chase Crumpler and/or DE like Jason Taylor.

'cause he's not better than Tarvaris Jackson? Right . . .Just two years ago, he was seen by many as a franchise QB. You can kick him while he's down, but he will be heard from again. And he'd be an upgrade several situations around the league right now.

He's not cut out for the NFL. He might be able to throw it through a wall, but his big, long, slow delivery & lack of mobility isn't what I'm looking for.I like TJ.

As a Viking fan, I would much rather give TJ another shot (although I am not sold on him and would love it if they would trade for DA or McNabb) than pick up a washed up, oft injured cast-off from Jacksonville and Atlanta. I would have no complaints if they traded their first round pick for DA or McNabb, but I really don't want to see Leftwich in purple.

 

[Couch Potato]

Cutting crumpler isn't that big of a deal. Just because a team cuts a player doesn't mean they don't want him. Teams cut players to save money and then the hope is they can resign the player at a much lower price. It happens every year.

According to Rotoworld though they really aren't saving that much, so it's probably not about saving money by re-signing him:

Alge Crumpler-TE- Falcons Feb. 15 - 1:54 pm et

Falcons released seven players Friday, including four-time Pro Bowl TE Alge Crumpler, QB Byron Leftwich, and LT Wayne Gandy.

This is a strong statement about Crumpler's lack of conditioning and health, because the team saves only $1.3 million by cutting Crumpler this season. Crumpler, 30, has some question marks but immediately becomes the top tight end on the free agent market. He'd be worthwhile pickup for a team like the Vikings, Bills, Seahawks, or Buccaneers.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Either one I'm sure the Seahawks will try to scoop up. Brother Carlester had a nice career in the NW, maybe that will swing Alge our way.

Much like McMichael following Linehan to STL, it would seem the Seahawks have the inside track on him if Mora likes him.

 

[Sinrman]

Wow... just wow. I guess I can kinda see because of $$ reasons, but he's one of the lone bright spots on that

offense. I could name several teams that would be interested in Alge's services... (OH PLEASE BRING HIM TO DETROIT!)

 

[David Yudkin]

As far as Crumpler goes, I would probably suggest "let the buyer beware" at this point. Atlanta does not seem to save a ton of cap space by cutting him, they don't appear to have an heir apparent bursting on the scene to force him out, and we know Crumpler has been hurt and been limited in recent seasons. I would openly wonder the extent of his injuries and how limited his skills may be at this stage.

 

[Couch Potato]

As follow up on the cuts, this ajc.com story includes a little bit of their thought on the post-Crumpler TE situation in Atlanta (at the bottom in bold):

Story

The first jolt of change for the Falcons came Friday, when the team released seven players, including four former starters -- popular four-time Pro Bowl tight end Alge Crumpler among them. The cuts weren't that much of a surprise nor were they nearly as drastic as they could have been.

Then again, more changes could be forthcoming.

"Today we accomplished what we wanted to accomplish as far as refining this roster," general manager Thomas Dimitroff said. "Today, our salary cap is just shy of $17 million space. Will there be more moves in the near future or later? I can't answer that right now. I do know we will consider this process of evaluating the free-agent market as well as the draft dynamic and, at that time, we will re-evaluate if we need to make a move or not."

Team owner Arthur Blank said projections are to have at least $23 million to spend in free agency, so more changes, either player cuts or salary restructuring, could be in order.

Other than Crumpler, one of the team's longtime leaders and best players, former Pro Bowl defensive tackle Rod Coleman, left tackle Wayne Gandy, quarterback Byron Leftwich, linebacker Marcus Wilkins, wide receiver Jamin Elliott and cornerback Lewis Sanders were released.

Among the tenured, high-salaried veterans spared in the initial wave of cuts: tailback Warrick Dunn, quarterback Joey Harrington, linebacker Keith Brooking, guard Kynan Forney, wide receivers Joe Horn and Brian Finneran, and safety Lawyer Milloy.

The commonality of the higher profile cuts Friday -- medical issues.

Crumpler, Gandy, Coleman and Leftwich were limited and missed playing time during the Falcons' 4-12 run last season because of injuries.

"We looked at all the issues, weighed in all the factors, and it's not only age and injury," said Dimitroff, adding that scheme-fit and long-term contributions also were factors.

Gandy (left knee), Coleman (right quadriceps, knee, triceps, pectoral) and Sanders (pectoral) finished the season on injured reserve. Crumpler, 30, never fully recovered from offseason knee surgery, missed two games and had his second-least productive season (42 catches, 444 yards, 5 touchdowns) of his stellar seven-year career.

If healthy, Crumpler isn't expected to be out of work for long. Tampa Bay and Seattle are among teams in significant need of a tight end, especially one of Crumpler's stature.

Leftwich, signed early in the regular season after being cut from Jacksonville — Smith was the Jaguars' defensive coordinator during Leftwich's tenure there -- had right ankle surgery after getting hurt in his first start Oct. 21 at New Orleans. Leftwich did not play again after injuring his tailbone in his second start, Nov. 18 against visiting Tampa Bay.

This is the second time Leftwich, who started for most of his four seasons in Jacksonville, has been cut in less than a year. His dismissal leaves one-time starter Harrington and second-year player D.J. Shockley as the only quarterbacks under contract for next season.

Chris Redman, who started the final four games, becomes an unrestricted free agent Feb. 29. The Falcons are expected to try to re-sign him and to add at least one more quarterback, likely with one of their nine draft picks.

Friday's cuts also signal areas the Falcons project to address in free agency and in the draft.

Improving production at left tackle, where Gandy, 37, once started, is optimum. The same can be said at defensive tackle. Coleman, 31, was one of the premier interior pass rushers in the NFL when he was healthy. With him gone, Jonathan Babineaux is the only experienced player at the position.

The Falcons' next tight end seemingly isn't on the roster. New offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey, a former tight end, likes physical blockers. Current backups Dwayne Blakley, an unrestricted free agent, and rookie Martrez Milner, don't necessarily fit the mold.

"It's very important to be able to come off the ball and control the line of scrimmage, be a very sound blocker as well as possess the other skills," Dimitroff said of replacing Crumpler. "We want that perfect fit. We know that's not necessarily realistic, so if we can't get it in one player, we'll get it in a combination of players."

 

[Fiddles]

so will they be dumping off to if they want a blocking te?

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I really think the Vikings need to go after a TE in the draft. They aren't a TE away from a championship, and Crumpler isn't a stretch the field TE anymore. I think Garrett Mills has a nice future and maybe they can draft a TE with ability. I don't think Crumpler has enough left in the tank.

I also agree with Jason, and don't think Leftwich is a good fit for the system.

 

[mad sweeney]

Eagles should let LJ Smith walk and bring in Crumpler if healthy enough. I'm sure he'd take less than $4 mill and he's a better player.

Either one I'm sure the Seahawks will try to scoop up. Brother Carlester had a nice career in the NW, maybe that will swing Alge our way.

Much like McMichael following Linehan to STL, it would seem the Seahawks have the inside track on him if Mora likes him.

As well as GM Tim Ruskell. But if he isn't healthy I hope they don't force it. THe Pollard scenario sucked last year so they may be leery. All depends on his knees.

 

[Rorschach]

While I don't really agree with cutting Crumpler at first sight it really isn't as a move that is going to hurt the Falcons long term. Obviously he has had issues with his knees as well as publicly criticizing the coaching staff. Now Petrino was later realized to be quite the jerk but I still think a player going public with their problems is still something that is kind of worrisome... This might also speak some more about Smith's lack of control and not being able to handle stronger voices in the locker room but that is just hearsay on my part. I just think that they have enough reason to justify this move. I think that a team is going to be fortunate to sign Crumpler, however.

 

[Coogar]

It is funny how in one thread Crumpler has gone from "we better get him on our team now!" to "he's hurt, he's fat, TE's age like runningbacks." Seriously, TE's age like running backs? Since when?

Anyways my first thought was Seattle with the Ruskell connection, but I don't know if Crumpler has the character they're looking for.

 

[JaxBill]

Leftwhich not even in the main title of this thread...wowsers. I would think alot of teams might need a decent vet QB, given the carousel that happened last year.

I think Leftwich's days as a starter are over, but I'm mildly surprised it was leftwich and not joey, considering the Smith ties in Jax.What I can't understand is not even trying to get anything for Crump.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was cut BECAUSE of the Smith ties in Jax.Don't forget that Leftwich and JDR did not get along in Jacksonville. The Jags made numerous efforts to try and shorten that Satchel paige windup which Leftwich rebuffed. Leftwich publicly made JDR look bad by saying he could have played when the team said his ankle was injured.Plus Smith would be well aware of Leftwich's lack of mobility. Keeping him behind that offensive line is a recipe for disaster.

 

[TheWick]

I'm surprised so many are shocked by this move. He's slowed down alot and is easily replaceable. I do think he'll be picked up fairly quickly but he's not going to do much where ever he goes.

 

[Boston]

As far as Crumpler goes, I would probably suggest "let the buyer beware" at this point. Atlanta does not seem to save a ton of cap space by cutting him, they don't appear to have an heir apparent bursting on the scene to force him out, and we know Crumpler has been hurt and been limited in recent seasons. I would openly wonder the extent of his injuries and how limited his skills may be at this stage.

I agree that the possibility of a "buyer beware" scenario is in play here. The cap savings is minimal so this isn't one of those "business is cold" money decisions. There has to be another reason for this move. Whether it's injury concerns, conditioning, attitude or the thought that he'd be a bad fit in rebuilding situation (i.e. being a bad influence around the youngsters) something's up here and there's a good chance that it's a negative (or at least that's how the new Falcon front office sees it). The Falcons are a bad team and for them to cut Crumpler there has to be a very good reason...and I'm sure we'll find it out within the next week.As for Lefty...he's not a good NFL QB right now. He has a ton of flaws in his game and unless he corrects them he's got journeyman written all over him. His best bet is to go to a stable organization and play behind a fundamentally sound veteran, get back to the basics and see if he can resurrect his game his game by watching someone do it the right way. Playing behind a Manning, Brady or Drew Brees for a year or two could do wonders for this guy. His game really needs a lot of work and if he's not fully committed to improving he's going to be a non-factor in this league.

 

[David Yudkin]

It is funny how in one thread Crumpler has gone from "we better get him on our team now!" to "he's hurt, he's fat, TE's age like runningbacks." Seriously, TE's age like running backs? Since when?Anyways my first thought was Seattle with the Ruskell connection, but I don't know if Crumpler has the character they're looking for.

Since the merger in 1970:Number of 100+ point fantasy seasons by TE 29 and under: 134Number of 100+ point fantasy sesaons by TE 30 and over: 16

 

[Mmen of Steel]

Wow... just wow. I guess I can kinda see because of $$ reasons, but he's one of the lone bright spots on thatoffense. I could name several teams that would be interested in Alge's services... (OH PLEASE BRING HIM TO DETROIT!)

I was just about to put the Detroit thread out there.Even Lefty, until we can get Stanton up and running....

 

[Ned]

I'd sign that.

 

[ThePassion]

I think the Crumpler move has to do with getting grid of the Vets in the clubhouse who are probably not going to lead the time in the right direction after everything that has happened. It is time to start clean.

No doubt that Crumpler could be a good leader and a nice vet to have in house especially in the right situation.... but I just think with all the Vick crap and the coach leaving the way he did that these guys have to be bitter and are probably not in the mood to give their 100% to rebuild or help out the younger folks.

 

[Tommy Collins]

Buffalo has needed a go-to TE for a few years now...

 

[Chadstroma]

Leftwich isn't surprising; but Crumpler? WOW.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

It is funny how in one thread Crumpler has gone from "we better get him on our team now!" to "he's hurt, he's fat, TE's age like runningbacks." Seriously, TE's age like running backs? Since when?

This is not a new thing. Tight ends have always aged like running backs. Go back and look at the all-time great tight ends. How many were still producing like elite players after age 30?

Ozzie Newsome saw a huge dropoff at about age 29. So did Ben Coates.

Winslow Sr. was done by Crumpler's age.

Ditka was washed up by his late 20s. John Mackey washed up by 30.

Dave Casper's last good year was where Crumpler is now. Ditto Charlie Sanders. And Todd Christensen. And Keith Jackson. And Raymond Chester.

Shannon Sharpe kept on ticking until 35, but he was considerably better than Crumpler and kept himself in superior condition.

 

[FTRWRTR]

It is funny how in one thread Crumpler has gone from "we better get him on our team now!" to "he's hurt, he's fat, TE's age like runningbacks." Seriously, TE's age like running backs? Since when?Anyways my first thought was Seattle with the Ruskell connection, but I don't know if Crumpler has the character they're looking for.

Since the merger in 1970:Number of 100+ point fantasy seasons by TE 29 and under: 134Number of 100+ point fantasy sesaons by TE 30 and over: 16

 

[RoosterScott]

I think the bigger story here is the possible re-signing of Redman and the renaissance of his career. Possibly just for a couple years but still let's call it like we see it here...welcome back Redman. Dynasty owners need to start giving this guy a look. Seriously, FBG where is he in the rankings???

 

[zamboni]

I think the Crumpler move has to do with getting grid of the Vets in the clubhouse who are probably not going to lead the time in the right direction after everything that has happened. It is time to start clean.

Perhaps, but if that were the case, I think a Joe Horn would have been cut first. At least Alge is much younger and has some game left. IMO, there is some behind-the-scenes stuff we're not aware of with Alge.

 

[FUBAR]

I think the Crumpler move has to do with getting grid of the Vets in the clubhouse who are probably not going to lead the time in the right direction after everything that has happened. It is time to start clean.

Perhaps, but if that were the case, I think a Joe Horn would have been cut first. At least Alge is much younger and has some game left. IMO, there is some behind-the-scenes stuff we're not aware of with Alge.

Must be, but I don't remember ever hearing anything negative about him. He's 30, but I would assume he'd be worth something in a trade.

 

[ThePassion]

I think the Crumpler move has to do with getting grid of the Vets in the clubhouse who are probably not going to lead the time in the right direction after everything that has happened. It is time to start clean.

Perhaps, but if that were the case, I think a Joe Horn would have been cut first. At least Alge is much younger and has some game left. IMO, there is some behind-the-scenes stuff we're not aware of with Alge.

Must be, but I don't remember ever hearing anything negative about him. He's 30, but I would assume he'd be worth something in a trade.

He did get into some trouble for calling out Management I believe... he was publicly displeased with the team and the owners and coaching staff.

 

[twitch]

Leftwich needs to carry his butt to Minnesota. That man needs 2 things. A great Oline. And a RB like Adrian Peterson. Crumper still has some skills. Id love to see him head North to New England. After all the crap he just went thru in Atlanta, he'd fit right in.

 

[Domination]

I think that Crumpler would be the perfect fit for the Bills. He would allow Evans to get deep because the safety must respect him, and not allow them to crowd the box on Lynch. I do not think that he is as good as he was a few years ago, but do think that he could definitely improve a team.

 

[PatrickT]

I think the Crumpler move has to do with getting grid of the Vets in the clubhouse who are probably not going to lead the time in the right direction after everything that has happened. It is time to start clean.

Perhaps, but if that were the case, I think a Joe Horn would have been cut first. At least Alge is much younger and has some game left. IMO, there is some behind-the-scenes stuff we're not aware of with Alge.

Must be, but I don't remember ever hearing anything negative about him. He's 30, but I would assume he'd be worth something in a trade.

He did get into some trouble for calling out Management I believe... he was publicly displeased with the team and the owners and coaching staff.

Not the owners, and really only Petrino. I don't recall anyone calling out anyone else on the staff.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

This is actually a good thing for Leftwich (not Leftwhich, people). Lets him find a team who will give him a chance to start. I think ATL liked what they saw in Redman at the end of last season, and it makes sense to stick with him to begin 2008.

Very good for Leftwich's value, and could also be very good for Crumpler's value as well. Leftwich is now the best UFA QB available. Minnesota makes a lot of sense, but they didn't show any interest in him late last summer.

If the Vikings sniff anywhere near this guy, they're crazy. Chase Crumpler and/or DE like Jason Taylor.

'cause he's not better than Tarvaris Jackson? Right . . .Just two years ago, he was seen by many as a franchise QB. You can kick him while he's down, but he will be heard from again. And he'd be an upgrade several situations around the league right now.

Signed,Byron's MomI'd rather roll the dice on Tarvaris' upside than settle for Leftwich's plateau.

I agree. I would much rather take a chance on TJax than Leftwich,whose best days, I'm afraid are behind him.