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Current Frontrunner for MVP? (1 Viewer)

kd1

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there doesn't seem to be too many people who you can make much of an argument for.

my current top 3:

1) Eli - a default pick. team is 5-0, he's the leader, although the giants hot start can be attributed to much more than just him.

2) Kurt Warner - crazy as it seems. they should run away with the division, and his play is the reason. of course, he'd have to make it through the 2nd half of the year to qualify. if he's in the race at season's end, i can see the voters going with sentimentality, and giving the old man his 3rd.

3) Cutler- hot start, but seems to be fading a bit, and the broncos aren't looking like the powerhouse that they appeared to be coming out of the gates.

that's pretty much all i got. who am i missing? titans are 5-0 but don't really have a candidate. no rbs on the teams with good records are really carrying their teams, and i don't think i'm missing a qb candidate (romo?).

 
there doesn't seem to be too many people who you can make much of an argument for. my current top 3:1) Eli - a default pick. team is 5-0, he's the leader, although the giants hot start can be attributed to much more than just him.2) Kurt Warner - crazy as it seems. they should run away with the division, and his play is the reason. of course, he'd have to make it through the 2nd half of the year to qualify. if he's in the race at season's end, i can see the voters going with sentimentality, and giving the old man his 3rd.3) Cutler- hot start, but seems to be fading a bit, and the broncos aren't looking like the powerhouse that they appeared to be coming out of the gates.that's pretty much all i got. who am i missing? titans are 5-0 but don't really have a candidate. no rbs on the teams with good records are really carrying their teams, and i don't think i'm missing a qb candidate (romo?).
What about Drew Brees assuming the Saints remain competitive? He's having a great season without his top weapon. Also, I wonder if Portis should also be under consideration?
 
there doesn't seem to be too many people who you can make much of an argument for. my current top 3:1) Eli - a default pick. team is 5-0, he's the leader, although the giants hot start can be attributed to much more than just him.2) Kurt Warner - crazy as it seems. they should run away with the division, and his play is the reason. of course, he'd have to make it through the 2nd half of the year to qualify. if he's in the race at season's end, i can see the voters going with sentimentality, and giving the old man his 3rd.3) Cutler- hot start, but seems to be fading a bit, and the broncos aren't looking like the powerhouse that they appeared to be coming out of the gates.that's pretty much all i got. who am i missing? titans are 5-0 but don't really have a candidate. no rbs on the teams with good records are really carrying their teams, and i don't think i'm missing a qb candidate (romo?).
Brees and Portis have to be on top of list. I would say Brees is top, Eli then Portis
 
there doesn't seem to be too many people who you can make much of an argument for. my current top 3:1) Eli - a default pick. team is 5-0, he's the leader, although the giants hot start can be attributed to much more than just him.2) Kurt Warner - crazy as it seems. they should run away with the division, and his play is the reason. of course, he'd have to make it through the 2nd half of the year to qualify. if he's in the race at season's end, i can see the voters going with sentimentality, and giving the old man his 3rd.3) Cutler- hot start, but seems to be fading a bit, and the broncos aren't looking like the powerhouse that they appeared to be coming out of the gates.that's pretty much all i got. who am i missing? titans are 5-0 but don't really have a candidate. no rbs on the teams with good records are really carrying their teams, and i don't think i'm missing a qb candidate (romo?).
What about Drew Brees assuming the Saints remain competitive? He's having a great season without his top weapon. Also, I wonder if Portis should also be under consideration?
portis is a good call. i think the saints need to get to at least 10 wins or win the division for brees to have a shot. same case can be made for bush.
 
At this point you have to think that the Cards are the favorites in the West, and without Warner where would they be? I think if they win the West with 10 wins (very possible at this point) Warner is your MVP.

Brees and Eli are the only other 2 candidates currently IMO.

 
Good list so far - I like the Warner pick. Here are my other possible picks:

1. Clinton Portis

2. Phillip Rivers

3. Brett Favre

 
I'm biased toward Brees, but the Saints will probably need to win more for him to get the MVP (although I wouldn't trade him for ANY other quarterback). Warner and Portis seem like frontrunners as well. I could see Favre getting it if the Jets win the East and no one else stands out.

 
If I had to vote right now, it would be Cutler. The Broncos would be in a huge mess without him, especially given their defense.

 
If the Giants finish with the NFL's best record, it will be Eli Manning, whether we like it or not. Media loves that guy.

 
I don't see Brees as a top candidate right now. Gotta go with Eli Manning, Clinton Portis or Kurt Warner.

I'd say Brees at this point.
:banned: The Saints are 5-1 with a decent kicker.
How do you figure? Neither of those kicks he missed near the end of the Denver and Minnesota games would have ended either game.
Well considering he missed two field goals in each of those games, certainly the case can be made that they were six points short both times.Of course, there's plenty of blame to go around for botching those games.

 
Big Ben has the Steelers at 4-1, and he's playing hurt, and the Steelers have no running game. Easy choice for me.
Ahhhhhhh, good call. I didn't even think of him at first, but you are right. He is making plays all over the place, despite a pedestrian running game and a poor offensive line.
 
i think brees only has a shot if they win the division, and certainly has no shot if they don't make the playoffs, and there is a good chance they dont.

 
I don't see Brees as a top candidate right now. Gotta go with Eli Manning, Clinton Portis or Kurt Warner.

I'd say Brees at this point.
:thumbup: The Saints are 5-1 with a decent kicker.
How do you figure? Neither of those kicks he missed near the end of the Denver and Minnesota games would have ended either game.
Well considering he missed two field goals in each of those games, certainly the case can be made that they were six points short both times.Of course, there's plenty of blame to go around for botching those games.
You know what drives me crazy, is everyone and their mother has been saying the Saints win two games with a good kicker that they lost, but thats stupid to say, if Grammatica made that FG in Denver, the Broncos had 2 full minutes to get into FG range and still win that game (they were driving on them very easily)
 
I don't see Brees as a top candidate right now. Gotta go with Eli Manning, Clinton Portis or Kurt Warner.

I'd say Brees at this point.
:thumbup: The Saints are 5-1 with a decent kicker.
How do you figure? Neither of those kicks he missed near the end of the Denver and Minnesota games would have ended either game.
Well considering he missed two field goals in each of those games, certainly the case can be made that they were six points short both times.Of course, there's plenty of blame to go around for botching those games.
You know what drives me crazy, is everyone and their mother has been saying the Saints win two games with a good kicker that they lost, but thats stupid to say, if Grammatica made that FG in Denver, the Broncos had 2 full minutes to get into FG range and still win that game (they were driving on them very easily)
Exactly. And even if Gramatica hits both of the field goals in that game, we cannot assume that they just win the game. The entire dymanic of the game would have changed. For me, bottom line is Brees' numbers are not that overwhelmingly good to where he should warrant serious MVP consideration right now, considering his team is 3-3.

 
I don't see Brees as a top candidate right now. Gotta go with Eli Manning, Clinton Portis or Kurt Warner.

I'd say Brees at this point.
:goodposting: The Saints are 5-1 with a decent kicker.
How do you figure? Neither of those kicks he missed near the end of the Denver and Minnesota games would have ended either game.
Well considering he missed two field goals in each of those games, certainly the case can be made that they were six points short both times.Of course, there's plenty of blame to go around for botching those games.
You know what drives me crazy, is everyone and their mother has been saying the Saints win two games with a good kicker that they lost, but thats stupid to say, if Grammatica made that FG in Denver, the Broncos had 2 full minutes to get into FG range and still win that game (they were driving on them very easily)
Uh, that's why I said there's plenty of blame to go around. Gramatica isn't the only reason they lost.
 
No one has even mentioned Reggie Bush? He's got to be in the discussion at the moment.
i gave him a mention earlier. said he's pretty much in the same boat as brees. i don't see them giving it to him over brees though. bush would have to fade brees' 5,000 yards and 40 tds to win.
 
If we pull off the improbably divisional win, is Ryan in this conversation? Can you win rookie of the year and MVP? Could I BE a bigger :goodposting:

 
The most valuable player to his team this season is clearly Tom Brady.
:goodposting: Came here with the same guy in mind. The Pats are clearly a different team without Brady. But if I have to pick an active player.....Portis....he's been a Rock with an honorable mention to Jason Campbell. 0 INT's and one Fumble. That's putting your team in a great position to win. Big Ben. That line's been tough to play behind but they are still winning. 3rd is a tie with the Titans and Giants D. They've allowed 56 and 49 points respectively (pending the MNF game).
 
there doesn't seem to be too many people who you can make much of an argument for. my current top 3:1) Eli - a default pick. team is 5-0, he's the leader, although the giants hot start can be attributed to much more than just him.2) Kurt Warner - crazy as it seems. they should run away with the division, and his play is the reason. of course, he'd have to make it through the 2nd half of the year to qualify. if he's in the race at season's end, i can see the voters going with sentimentality, and giving the old man his 3rd.3) Cutler- hot start, but seems to be fading a bit, and the broncos aren't looking like the powerhouse that they appeared to be coming out of the gates.that's pretty much all i got. who am i missing? titans are 5-0 but don't really have a candidate. no rbs on the teams with good records are really carrying their teams, and i don't think i'm missing a qb candidate (romo?).
What about Drew Brees assuming the Saints remain competitive? He's having a great season without his top weapon. Also, I wonder if Portis should also be under consideration?
Kyle Orton and Ronnie Brown have been just as interesting as above, imagine if they were to keep it up.
 
All offensive players considered for MVP?

My week 6 MVP - Albert Haynesworth. Titans (5-0 ) winning with D, and he's the key to that D.

 
I'd say Brees at this point.
:lmao: The Saints are 5-1 with a decent kicker if Payton put the right back in for those fourth down conversions.
That looks a little more accurate. Easy to blame the losses on Gramatica, but the short answer comes down to PT getting stuffed like a mofo.Breesus is gonna win it after he breaks Marino's yardage record.

 
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The Saints are 3-3. Brees is great and putting up big numbers, but isn't about W's?
Hocculi has helped Cutler and hurt Brees in the standings which is all that matters - I think that's punishment enough; that doesn't mean we should help/punish guys for bad officiating with respect to the MVP race. Brees missing his biggest weapons is the clear choice if you're going to go the QB route imo.
 
Those of you who believe Warner has at least a shot at this if he keeps up his play and stays healthy realize what it means if he does win the NFL MVP?

 
Albert Haynesworth because the only chance a D player is going to have is if there's a cluster of indecision(like above) with the offensive side.

 
Smeagol said:
Jersey35 said:
Those of you who believe Warner has at least a shot at this if he keeps up his play and stays healthy realize what it means if he does win the NFL MVP?
Ties Favre for most NFL MVPs
:confused: In fact, I would go so far as to say he one-ups him as the ONLY player to win three MVP's outright. (Favre "shared" it with Sanders 1997).That makes Warner an interesting conversation piece for HoF discussions.
 
We need a better definition of what MVP means.

What is this player most valuable to? His team? The league?

In my mind, the award should go to the leagues "best" player. The one that's at the very top of his game for the majority of the season and has the biggest impact on the outcome of games.

That leaves two candidates, IMO, and they've already been mentioned.

1. Drew Brees

2. Clinton Portis

:confused:

 
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I agree with Andy and was woundering if someone would say that. It should be the leagues best period. Just cause someone is on a bad team, or a team that does not win should not affect this award.

Way too early to pick but you all have great guys listed!!!!

 
We need a better definition of what MVP means.What is this player most valuable to? His team? The league?In my mind, the award should go to the leagues "best" player. The one that's at the very top of his game for the majority of the season and has the biggest impact on the outcome of games. That leaves two candidates, IMO, and they've already been mentioned.1. Drew Brees2. Clinton Portis :wall:
you say "has the biggest impact on the outcome of games", yet the #1 of only 2 people who you think qualify has a 3-3 record. doesn't make sense. you can't have it both ways.
 

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