Ghost Rider said:
Can we please put the Brees MVP talk to rest, at least for now? The Saints have 7-9 or 8-8 written all over them, and no player from a team with that record is gonna be the MVP.
To be fair, with each passing week the landscape is going to change. But to your direct point, yes, I do think that Brees' Saints are probably not good enough to keep him in the MVP race. That's one of the other interesting things about MVP winners, they usually need at least some help from their teammates on the other side of the ball. Without a stout defense, a team is going to struggle to have the kind of W-L record needed for an MVP award recipient, usually.