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Cutler will not report on Monday (1 Viewer)

That is a :lmao: All of this public banter cannot be good for the trade value. The Broncos appear to be painting themselves into a corner. They (and Cutler) are going down a path that leads to divorce and the other teams know this. If the phones were ringing last month, I bet they are even moreso now. At this point, it really does not matter whose "fault" it is, just that one party needs start patching the fence.
I think that other teams may see that Cutler might becoming available, but let's not assume he's going to go cheap... what will drive up his value is the # of teams interested in him, and there would be MANY interested in him. The fact that they have to let him go might drop the initial offer, but when the Bears, Titans, Lions, Vikings and Tampa Bay are all interested the bidding will go up.
There cannot be that many teams interested. The Titans just paid Collins way too much money. The Bears will go with Orton and have other holes to fill. The Lions and Bucs seem the most likely landing spots.
I also forgot the Jets. Franchise caliber QBs do not come available every day, and there were already a number of teams who called to ask about his availability. I don't know why the Bears would go with Orton if they could have Cutler. But even if they didn't ultimately sign him, their interest would drive his cost up.
 
I haven't delved into all the Cutler threads, but cliff notes?Is this mainly all due to Cutler being offended the Broncos entertained offers on him?Do I have the gist of it?
Some people think that. Others, including myself, think it's more about Denver actively trying to trade him for Cassel and then telling him they didn't.
 
I haven't followed this very closely, but my impression is that the Broncos were actively shopping Cutler - to the point where three or four teams were all trying to make a deal to land Cassell and then move him to the Broncs.Word got out, and Cutler was pissed.Then the Broncos denied that they were actively shopping Cutler - saying some PR nonsense about how 'they'd fielded offers.'Someone lies to my face and thinks they can sell me some B.S. story that only a moron would buy and I'm gonna be pissed too.
That's how I see it. To be fair, Cutler has taken it further than he should and I would bet Cook is the reason for that more than his immaturity.
 
McD should trade Cutler to Buffalo so he can deal with a real professional baby. I think Cutler could learn something from TO. :confused:

 
I haven't followed this very closely, but my impression is that the Broncos were actively shopping Cutler - to the point where three or four teams were all trying to make a deal to land Cassell and then move him to the Broncs.Word got out, and Cutler was pissed.Then the Broncos denied that they were actively shopping Cutler - saying some PR nonsense about how 'they'd fielded offers.'Someone lies to my face and thinks they can sell me some B.S. story that only a moron would buy and I'm gonna be pissed too.
:confused: I think this is the main point that many keep missing. Regardless of how Cutler is handling this (and he could definitely be handling it better), to me, the bottom line is that the front office tried to trade Cutler, it backfired on them, and they now refuse to admit that they did so. My guess, at this point, is that Cutler is pissed about them lying to him a lot more than about them trying to trade him. Them outright lying to Cutler's face is what has caused this rift.
"Pat Bowlen supporting the coach over the QB is kind of interesting".Bowlen has no choice but to go with the coach. The coach chose to have a confrontation with the QB, chose not to mend the fences, but Bowlen has no choice. If he comes down on the side of Cutler, the damage to McDaniels is irretrievable. Yes, Cutler could have handled it more maturely; but he's still a young kid. The coach is supposed to be management, and to be wiser than his players. He hasn't acted that way. It's a stupid situation which never should have reached this point, but the coach chose to play the "I have more stars on my shoulder game." He's an idiot. If I had a general manager who pissed off my star salesman, I'd have to support the general manager. But behind the scenes I would have told him he was an idiot.
More :lmao:
 
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QB on a bad college program plays very well, gets drafted in the first round by a legendary HC who has won a super bowlw. QB gets annointed as the "future", by same HC. Young QB shows some flashes puts up some big numbers like 3500 yards passing but the defense stinks, and the young QB makes too many mistakes.

Legendary HC gets fired, new rookie HC gets hired and as his first act attempts to trade the "franchise QB". Young QB is upset. Feels like the rug was pulled out from under him. Talks with new rookie HC who says "anyone is tradable". New rookie HC indicates said trade was only intitiated by other teams. New rookie HC lies. Young QB is now very upset. QB and HC talk again. Young QB is even more upset. W9onder what went on in that conversation.

Young QB decides not to show for VOLUNTARY workouts. So does his room mate, the young TE. Team is on the brink of mutiny. Captain Bligh (McDaniels)is found to be at no fault by some public opinion, as he rips a team apart, collecting an excess of worse than average RB's and other head scratching manuvuers.

Young QB is called a baby. Team goes out and signs another player, this one the son of a pro football player as the most impressive part of his resume as an NFL QB.

I gotta say, and I usually side with coaches and FO's... I think Cutler is getting screwed, he knows it and he also knows that Denver is going to be a bad team for several years under this HC's rule. Show me ONE, just one good thing McDaniels has done since he got hired. Lamont Jordan? That Denver D needed serious help, and they let every impact FA walk away. I have always liked the Broncos, but this new HC is a freakin disaster. If I'm Cutler, I want out, even if it is Detroit.

 
Show me ONE, just one good thing McDaniels has done since he got hired. Lamont Jordan? That Denver D needed serious help, and they let every impact FA walk away. I have always liked the Broncos, but this new HC is a freakin disaster. If I'm Cutler, I want out, even if it is Detroit.
3/4 of the defensive backfield has been overturned; replaced with 2008 starters. The key piece here being Brian Dawkins.
 
Maybe Bill's old staffers are secretly infultrating other teams to undermine them in an attempt at NFL domination. Like double agent spygate.

 
I haven't followed this very closely, but my impression is that the Broncos were actively shopping Cutler - to the point where three or four teams were all trying to make a deal to land Cassell and then move him to the Broncs.

Word got out, and Cutler was pissed.

Then the Broncos denied that they were actively shopping Cutler - saying some PR nonsense about how 'they'd fielded offers.'

Someone lies to my face and thinks they can sell me some B.S. story that only a moron would buy and I'm gonna be pissed too.
That's how I see it. To be fair, Cutler has taken it further than he should and I would bet Cook is the reason for that more than his immaturity.
According to Peter King, Cutler had previously requested a trade after his QB coach left for USC. So, it would not be surprising if Denver did actively look at options. I'm not sure I believe King though, because that would mean the Denver front office is showing the restraint of a saint in not calling him out for his "woe is me they're trying to trade me" shock if King is right. Of course, maybe they realize there is no upside to winning that PR battle if it loses them the QB they want. On a side note, now the Vikes really look goofy for jumping at Rosenfels as if he was Johnny Unitas hitting free agency. Still shaking my head in disgust at the timing of that move that could have waited. There's no way they tell a guy he's competing to start, sign him to a 3-year deal, and still have the guts to go after a Cutler.

 
Show me ONE, just one good thing McDaniels has done since he got hired. Lamont Jordan? That Denver D needed serious help, and they let every impact FA walk away. I have always liked the Broncos, but this new HC is a freakin disaster. If I'm Cutler, I want out, even if it is Detroit.
3/4 of the defensive backfield has been overturned; replaced with 2008 starters. The key piece here being Brian Dawkins.
Dawkins is 36 and his play has gone downhill. Philly did not let him go because he is what he used to be. I would say Dawkins was a horrible signing.
 
Why aren't the 49ers in the equation?

If they offered big money to Warner, I would readily add a couple of years to the deal for Cutler......

 
This situation reminds me of when a young new HC came to town and run off the very popular starting qb and was fired a few seasons after. Who is McDaniels mentor again?

 
Maybe I'm getting old but the "it's his fault, no it's HIS fault" stuff just is hard for me to get excited about. But no matter how you sit on the blame game equation, it certainly is starting to look like Jay Cutler could be quarterbacking for a different team in 2009 and that's as close to a seismic shift in the fantasy landscape as we're going to see this year.

I'm not going to speculate on where he might land, but I will say that folks are kidding themselves if they think there won't be suitors lined up. Any number of teams with QB situations seemingly solved would be willing to upset the apple cart to land a highly productive, young, athletic pocket passer like Cutler.

 
This situation reminds me of when a young new HC came to town and run off the very popular starting qb and was fired a few seasons after. Who is McDaniels mentor again?
Eric Mangini? hahahaha *open mouth, insert foot*It's called videotaping your opponents signals. See: Coaching career before the Patriots. He did coach another NFL team if I'm not mistaken.
 
On a side note, now the Vikes really look goofy for jumping at Rosenfels as if he was Johnny Unitas hitting free agency. Still shaking my head in disgust at the timing of that move that could have waited. There's no way they tell a guy he's competing to start, sign him to a 3-year deal, and still have the guts to go after a Cutler.
A 4th round pick does not equal to Johnny Unitas. You would prefer it if the Vikings were not to be interested in Cutler? :shrug:
 
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This situation reminds me of when a young new HC came to town and run off the very popular starting qb and was fired a few seasons after. Who is McDaniels mentor again?
Eric Mangini? hahahaha *open mouth, insert foot*It's called videotaping your opponents signals. See: Coaching career before the Patriots. He did coach another NFL team if I'm not mistaken.
I was thinking Bill B and Kosar in Clev, but Mangini and Pennington works too only without the bad blood as in Kosar and Cutler's cases.
 
I don't think it's surprising at all. The coach is showing up for work; the QB isn't. The QB is being a baby; the coach isn't. If I were Bowlen, it wouldn't take me more than a millisecond to throw my support behind McDaniels.I really can't understand why any Broncos fans would take Cutler's side in this. If this saga runs Cutler out of town, it's because he lacks the maturity and mentality to be a successful team leader. In which case McDaniels is doing the franchise a big favor.JMHO.
The reason the fans side with Cutler, even though he is an inveterate whiner, is because he's a great QB, and we haven't seen one in a while. McDaniels has proven nothing other than showing that Randy Moss can make anybody look good (see Daunte Culpepper, Scott Linehan, Mike Tice, etc. etc.). Bowlen has blown up the enitre franchise, and it seems the only thing that will fix it is dropping a $100M contract on Cutler a year early. And I think he'd too cheap to do it.
 
Cutler's due to be paid $1.035MIL this year. With a 100k bonus if he shows for 90% of the workouts. So, his base is basically paying about $1.1MIL this season including offseason stuff. For a franchise QB?? Are you kidding me? Does anyone out there think that's right? Exactly. Neither do I. Not even considering he's yet to have a winning season. He's a Pro Bowl QB. You know who else thinks Cutler should be making more than that?? Cutler. And his agent. Favre's agent. Bus Cook. This situation is beyond ugly because now its pretty much become all about the money. And that's not even being talked about.

Denver needs to bring in Jeff Garcia, Byron Leftwich and open this thing up. And not worry about Cutler. They dont need to give into contract demands or trade him while his value is down. Make him sweat. He's not carrying this team to the promised land anyway.

Does he give Broncos fans a level of pride because he's good? Sure does. Is he a #s machine? Got it. Is he a winner?? I dont know. You tell me.

 
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This is a Josh McDaniels pants on fire story.

When you make a mistake, admit it quickly.

Nobody likes to be lied to. Nobody likes to be lied about. The Broncos brass has done both, and about a 25 year old. A 25 year old who was voted the team captain. A 25 year old who just went to the pro bowl. A 25 year old who threw for over 4500 yards last season.

Broncos, that kid was one of the only things you had going for you.

Your running game is a shell of its former self. Your special teams are bad. Your defense was 29th in the league in yards allowed. Your # 1 Wide Receiver runs like a tight end and apparently likes going 15 rounds with every girl he meets.

Detroit isn't a bad situation for Jay Cutler. Roll Jay away from the rush and have him toss it to Calvin. Jay has played without a legit deep threat since he arrived in the league. He throws a pretty deep ball. It'd be nice to see it again. He gets that ball away fast and is tough. He'd make that Detroit o-line look A LOT better than it looked this year. Calvin could go for 1800 yards next year if he stayed healthy. Of everybody involved, B Marshall stands to lose the most if Cutler is traded. In the end, there's a reason Johnson went where he went in the draft and Marshall went where he went. A lot of those passes won't be there right when Brandon Marshall turns around next year. Unlike Denver, the city of Detroit would actually appreciate Jay Cutler and his earthy work ethic. The press there wouldn't criticize him every time he didn't show up with product in his hair wearing a three-piece suit for the ribbon cutting at the Piggly Wiggly. He's a football player, not an investment banker. Somebody should tell the Denver Post "writers" who are constantly badgering Cutler about his hair and clothes.

I'd like to see a deal that lands Denver Matt Leinart somehow. Or Brian Griese. Wait until you see Brandon Marshall and his 4.6 40 waiting for a Matt Leinart pass to arrive. Paint would dry faster. Darrell Green could cover that pass right now at the age of 49. Matt would get all dolled up, though, and wear his suit and hair just right for the Denver press. And isn't that what's really important?

 
OK, I don't agree with it but I could understand why McDaniels might be attracted to his old QB Cassell over Cutler.

What I don't get is why he is attempting to trade Scheffler? The Denver Post confirms the Broncos have been shopping TE Tony Scheffler. Apparently, he doesn't want him because he doesn't fit the system. Scheffler was a 2nd round pick and thus his contract is next to nothing. How arrogant is McDaniels to say we don't need him without going through a training camp or a single pre-season game with him.

BTW, I do not own Scheffler in a single fantasy league.

 
QB on a bad college program plays very well, gets drafted in the first round by a legendary HC who has won a super bowlw. QB gets annointed as the "future", by same HC. Young QB shows some flashes puts up some big numbers like 3500 yards passing but the defense stinks, and the young QB makes too many mistakes. Legendary HC gets fired, new rookie HC gets hired and as his first act attempts to trade the "franchise QB". Young QB is upset. Feels like the rug was pulled out from under him. Talks with new rookie HC who says "anyone is tradable". New rookie HC indicates said trade was only intitiated by other teams. New rookie HC lies. Young QB is now very upset. QB and HC talk again. Young QB is even more upset. W9onder what went on in that conversation. Young QB decides not to show for VOLUNTARY workouts. So does his room mate, the young TE. Team is on the brink of mutiny. Captain Bligh (McDaniels)is found to be at no fault by some public opinion, as he rips a team apart, collecting an excess of worse than average RB's and other head scratching manuvuers. Young QB is called a baby. Team goes out and signs another player, this one the son of a pro football player as the most impressive part of his resume as an NFL QB. I gotta say, and I usually side with coaches and FO's... I think Cutler is getting screwed, he knows it and he also knows that Denver is going to be a bad team for several years under this HC's rule. Show me ONE, just one good thing McDaniels has done since he got hired. Lamont Jordan? That Denver D needed serious help, and they let every impact FA walk away. I have always liked the Broncos, but this new HC is a freakin disaster. If I'm Cutler, I want out, even if it is Detroit.
:X This is a great posting. Even though none of us know for sure what really happened, it appears to me that the new HC is acting more like a Prima Donna than any player I have ever seen. I know the owner needs to side with his coach but this guy is ridiculous.
 
This is a Josh McDaniels pants on fire story.

When you make a mistake, admit it quickly.

Nobody likes to be lied to. Nobody likes to be lied about. The Broncos brass has done both, and about a 25 year old. A 25 year old who was voted the team captain. A 25 year old who just went to the pro bowl. A 25 year old who threw for over 4500 yards last season.

Broncos, that kid was one of the only things you had going for you.

Your running game is a shell of its former self. Your special teams are bad. Your defense was 29th in the league in yards allowed. Your # 1 Wide Receiver runs like a tight end and apparently likes going 15 rounds with every girl he meets.

Detroit isn't a bad situation for Jay Cutler. Roll Jay away from the rush and have him toss it to Calvin. Jay has played without a legit deep threat since he arrived in the league. He throws a pretty deep ball. It'd be nice to see it again. He gets that ball away fast and is tough. He'd make that Detroit o-line look A LOT better than it looked this year. Calvin could go for 1800 yards next year if he stayed healthy. Of everybody involved, B Marshall stands to lose the most if Cutler is traded. In the end, there's a reason Johnson went where he went in the draft and Marshall went where he went. A lot of those passes won't be there right when Brandon Marshall turns around next year. Unlike Denver, the city of Detroit would actually appreciate Jay Cutler and his earthy work ethic. The press there wouldn't criticize him every time he didn't show up with product in his hair wearing a three-piece suit for the ribbon cutting at the Piggly Wiggly. He's a football player, not an investment banker. Somebody should tell the Denver Post "writers" who are constantly badgering Cutler about his hair and clothes.

I'd like to see a deal that lands Denver Matt Leinart somehow. Or Brian Griese. Wait until you see Brandon Marshall and his 4.6 40 waiting for a Matt Leinart pass to arrive. Paint would dry faster. Darrell Green could cover that pass right now at the age of 49. Matt would get all dolled up, though, and wear his suit and hair just right for the Denver press. And isn't that what's really important?
Just curious. What's an "earthy work ethic"?? And Detroit isnt a bad situation?? Compared to what? Vanderbilt? Good lord.
 
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Couldn't disagree more. I think he's making a stand FOR the team and I wouldn't be surprised if there is quite a few broncos that fail to report Monday. So some coach lies to your face and tries to trade you and you don't have a problem with that? Jay Cutler is a man and no man is going to have a good relationship with a two-faced piece of #### like McDaniels. Period. One of them has to go, no question. I'm just surprised it's going to be the young stud (who is a standup person by all accounts) and some new 32 year old coach (who by his actions is not an honest person) who is making all the wrong moves. It's laughable he's just trying to copy the Patriots even with the same personnel. Come up with an original idea please! Also, he's trying to fix something that isn't broke (the offense).
me= :X Bronco fanI agree with you that if one of them goes, I'd rather it be McDaniels. However, Bowlen is already obligated to pay Shanahan this season for firing him before his contract expired. He signed McD to a 4 year contract, so his hands are kinda tied unless he wants to pay McDaniels, Shanny and whoever he hires to replace McDaniels. I don't think Bowlen wants to pay 3 coaches this season. The only chance I see that McDaniels gets the axe is if Bowlen can sweet talk Shananhan into coming back. They are (were) supposedly good friends, so I guess it could happen, but that is so far from likely that I'm almost embarrassed that I mentioned it.
 
I don't think it's surprising at all. The coach is showing up for work; the QB isn't. The QB is being a baby; the coach isn't. If I were Bowlen, it wouldn't take me more than a millisecond to throw my support behind McDaniels.I really can't understand why any Broncos fans would take Cutler's side in this. If this saga runs Cutler out of town, it's because he lacks the maturity and mentality to be a successful team leader. In which case McDaniels is doing the franchise a big favor.JMHO.
Do you ever not side with management?
Of course.I disagreed with the Cowboys' management when they signed T.O. I currently disagree with the Bills' management for the same reason.I disagreed with the Jets' management when they signed Favre.I disagreed with the Raiders' management when they signed Javon Walker to such a huge contract.I will disagree with the Broncos' management if they can get a first-rounder for Cutler but end up keeping him instead.I often disagree with the management of NFL teams.
 
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Maybe Cutler is being a baby.

Maybe the team is being unfair to him.

But one thing Cutler does not seem to realize is that the times are against him. With the economy suffering the way it is right now, people are not going to look fondly on any NFL premier player who doesn't show up, who holds out for any reason whatsoever, no matter how much right they have on their side. These guys need to realize how lucky they are, especially in today's society, be hard working and humble and deal with their problems privately. Otherwise they will be villified.

 
Can anyone think of a comparable situation? I've only been a football fan for a few years but I can't recall something quite like this happening before.

 
He needs to buy some humble and go about the job he's under contract for.
Nothing angers me more in the NFL than players thinking they are bigger than the team.

Dude is slipping into "thug" territory.
There is nothing more amusing to me than a coach thinking he is bigger than the team. Dude is slipping into "Petrino" territory
What happens when the owner thinks he's bigger than the team?
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3983805

Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler said Sunday night that he will not report to the team's first meeting on Monday and has formally asked to be traded. He confirmed that a Saturday meeting with first-year coach Josh McDaniels ended badly from his perspective while McDaniels offered another viewpoint on Sunday night.

"I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," Cutler said. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.

"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know," Cutler added. "I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."

Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first team meeting on Monday as they begin their offseason program.

Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told the Denver Post on Sunday that he was disappointed with how Cutler has handled the situation. In a telephone interview with ESPN, McDaniels was reluctantly expansive on the story.

"I really have wanted to avoid a he-said, she-said thing but it's only fair for us to present the Bronco side of the story rather than let things get taken out of context," McDaniels said. "There's been a pattern here for the past two weeks the way things [have been represented] in our communications. I don't think anythng that happened [saturday] was out of the ordinary. At the end of the meeting, Jay said he had thought about things quite a bit and requested a few more hours to mull things over. He said he wanted to talk to Bus on how to proceed. He was gonna call me on my cell phone and that never happened. Instead, Bus called [GM] Brian [Xanders].

"Again, I think that's been a pattern. I couldn't get [Cutler] to talk to me for two weeks or to talk to Mr. Bowlen. Then when he came here this weekend, we couldn't get a one-on-one meeting, just me and him alone. He wanted Bus in there, so I had Brian sit in, too. And it was the four of us. There wasn't any yelling, none of that. I can't believe we get to a totally different [interpretation].

"It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that has cropped up, a potential distraction and we've done our best to limit that. The main message I want to get out is that we're excited to start our offseason program [Monday]. It's an exciting time for us."

Cutler won't be present at the team meeting.

"I certainly went back there, expecting I'd be there [Monday] but not now," Cutler said. "It's not mandatory. I'll attend every mandatory mini-camp and training camp but that's it. Really, it's best for me to move on. As coach said, he needs every eye in the meeting room to be on him and not me."

As McDaniels pointed out, Cutler had a completely different expectation when he left their private meeting on Saturday.

Cutler said: "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee' and mend things, but that didn't happen. So, I get it, really, it's a business. I'm disappointed beause I love being a Bronco but I think it's run its course."

Cutler denied recent reports that he had asked to be traded when the Broncos fired offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates.

"Yes, I was upset when they let Jeremy go because Mr. Bowlen had assured me when Mike [shanahan] was fired that the offense wouldn't change because it was the second-ranked offense in football," Cutler said. "But I didn't push for a trade then."

McDaniels and Cutler agreed on at least one element of the controversy, knocking down a Sunday report on NFL Network that the coach had criticized the quarterback's play in 2008.

"That just isn't true," McDaniels said. "Not a word has been said about that."

Cutler added: "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."

McDaniels admitted that the team got involved in trade discussions for Cassel, who instead was dealt to the Kansas City Chiefs. However, he said any perception Cutler felt that the team could still trade him was misleading.

"That's what we have communicated ever since the deal with Cassel didn't happen," McDaniels said. "Other teams have called but we're not interested in getting draft picks for Jay. I never made a statement [saturday] that 'you can be traded at any time.' They asked a question and I told them it was the time of year when people inquire about your team. Your job, as a head coach and general manager, is to listen and not bypass any opportunity to help your team improve. I think most people [in the NFL] feel the same way. You make smart, educated decisions that are best for your football team."

Cutler feels like McDaniels lost his credibility with him when he initially denied to the quarterback that the Broncos tried to acquire Cassel only to admit it later.

"Before this trade for Cassel thing ever came up, in the two weeks or so I had spent with McDaniels, he was basically telling me that he came to Denver because he wanted to coach me and that we needed to trust each other," Cutler said. "He's never been critical to me. But trust now? How can I trust him now?"

He also explained that his house being put up for sale was "nothing more than a coincidence."

"I had already shown my house privately to some interested buyers a couple of months ago," Cutler said. "I've really been looking to buy 40 to 70 acres of land there."

As for ignoring phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen, Cutler said: "Josh and I have exchanged text messages. We had a conference call. And if Pat wanted to speak to me, why didn't he come to the meeting on Saturday?"

Cook said that as an agent he was "totally in shock" that it has gotten so ugly.

"I would have bet my house going into Saturday's meeting that everyone would be shaking hands and smiling," Cook said. "I thought it was going to get worked out. But it was very clear to me that Jay Cutler is not their choice to be quarterback of that team."

Yet Cook admitted that when he called Xanders to request a trade on Saturday night, the team's general manager said it wasn't going to happen and that "Jay should show up Monday."

That wasn't going to happen, either.

 
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Maybe Cutler is being a baby.Maybe the team is being unfair to him.But one thing Cutler does not seem to realize is that the times are against him. With the economy suffering the way it is right now, people are not going to look fondly on any NFL premier player who doesn't show up, who holds out for any reason whatsoever, no matter how much right they have on their side. These guys need to realize how lucky they are, especially in today's society, be hard working and humble and deal with their problems privately. Otherwise they will be villified.
NFL stars make loads of money. Like it or not, you need to get used to that. To say he should be so thankful to have a job he should put up with being jerked around and lied to is absurd. Yes, he should be handling things better. So could the coach. I hope SF gets in on this...they have picks and money.
 
He needs to buy some humble and go about the job he's under contract for.
Nothing angers me more in the NFL than players thinking they are bigger than the team.Dude is slipping into "thug" territory.
There is nothing more amusing to me than a coach thinking he is bigger than the team. Dude is slipping into "Petrino" territory
""Coach" has been given control to make personnel decisions."Player" should keep his mouth shut and play football.
 
One pissed off Bronco fan.

The buck stops with Bowlen. He is the guy who didn't prevent this from happening.

Rookie head coach and he just let's him do whatever he wants to.

It's not very easy to get a top QB. They had one.

I don't mind if they get some value for him in a trade-but Cassel isn't that!

At least I have something to hope for as a CJ owner.

Bowlen let it get to this point. Just really pisses me off, I mean really!!!

 
Cutler said: "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee'
if one of you denver fans were smart, and wanted cutler to stay, you'd send a dozen roses to his house and sign josh's name on them.
 
""Coach" has been given control to make personnel decisions.

"Player" should keep his mouth shut and play football.
Normally, I'd agree....but in this case it seems pretty clear that the coach has been neither forthcoming nor honest in his dealings with his FRANCHISE QB. What coach in his right mind tells his franchise QB he'd rather have another team's BACKUP as his his starter????? (Nothing personel of course!) Regardless of any other he-said, she-said BS, that's a coaching blunder of epic proportions, and Cutler has plenty of reasons to be pissed. Cutler is a franchise caliber, pro-bowl QB!Seriously....I wouldn't show up to ANYTHING voluntary either.

 
What happens when the owner thinks he's bigger than the team?
He calls himself Jerry Jones?
Right, I probably should have provided that as answer A to just avoid the obvious response. But youre right on that. Correct answer htere is certainly Jones. I was looking for more like since the owner basically writes the checks, hires the coach, pretty much IS the organzation, shouldnt a player want to take that guy's calls?? Cutler has been blowing off that guy. And as such, I couldnt possibly side with someone with such little consideration for the man stroking the checks.

I'll say it again. Cutler is basically playing this year for peanuts under his current contract - in the 1.2mil neighborhood. Someone with precise info can offer up exact #s if they want. Its peanuts. To add insult to injury, the guy Denver was in the market for, Cassel, the guy that didnt make the Pro Bowl who most feel isnt as good as Cutler, is making 14.6 mil. Simple math. Simple suggestion. Ridiculously ugly situation. And no, I cannot possibly side with the player in this case despite not really being a big Josh McDaniels fan. He didnt have much to do with New England's current starting system QB becoming what he is. As far as Im concerned, McDaniels is just another New England assistant cashing in on Patriots' system success. Dont hate him for it. It just "is what it is".

 
This is a Josh McDaniels pants on fire story. When you make a mistake, admit it quickly. Nobody likes to be lied to. Nobody likes to be lied about. The Broncos brass has done both, and about a 25 year old. A 25 year old who was voted the team captain. A 25 year old who just went to the pro bowl. A 25 year old who threw for over 4500 yards last season.Broncos, that kid was one of the only things you had going for you. Your running game is a shell of its former self. Your special teams are bad. Your defense was 29th in the league in yards allowed. Your # 1 Wide Receiver runs like a tight end and apparently likes going 15 rounds with every girl he meets. Detroit isn't a bad situation for Jay Cutler. Roll Jay away from the rush and have him toss it to Calvin. Jay has played without a legit deep threat since he arrived in the league. He throws a pretty deep ball. It'd be nice to see it again. He gets that ball away fast and is tough. He'd make that Detroit o-line look A LOT better than it looked this year. Calvin could go for 1800 yards next year if he stayed healthy. Of everybody involved, B Marshall stands to lose the most if Cutler is traded. In the end, there's a reason Johnson went where he went in the draft and Marshall went where he went. A lot of those passes won't be there right when Brandon Marshall turns around next year. Unlike Denver, the city of Detroit would actually appreciate Jay Cutler and his earthy work ethic. The press there wouldn't criticize him every time he didn't show up with product in his hair wearing a three-piece suit for the ribbon cutting at the Piggly Wiggly. He's a football player, not an investment banker. Somebody should tell the Denver Post "writers" who are constantly badgering Cutler about his hair and clothes. I'd like to see a deal that lands Denver Matt Leinart somehow. Or Brian Griese. Wait until you see Brandon Marshall and his 4.6 40 waiting for a Matt Leinart pass to arrive. Paint would dry faster. Darrell Green could cover that pass right now at the age of 49. Matt would get all dolled up, though, and wear his suit and hair just right for the Denver press. And isn't that what's really important?
This is a terrible post. The problem is that McDaniel and the Broncos are being too honest with Culter, telling him that they'll listen to offers for anyone, instead of lying to him to make his warm fuzzies feel better.What a ####### baby Jay Cutler is. Get over it already. Skipping workouts b/c his feelings are hurt? Are you kidding me?
 
Nothing angers me more in the NFL than players thinking they are bigger than the team.Dude is slipping into "thug" territory.
There is nothing more amusing to me than a coach thinking he is bigger than the team. Dude is slipping into "Petrino" territory
""Coach" has been given control to make personnel decisions."Player" should keep his mouth shut and play football.
Well the "Coach" has already botched his personnel decisions. If he wanted Cassel so badly, he should have been first one in line and handed New England a deal they could not refuse.
 
""Coach" has been given control to make personnel decisions.

"Player" should keep his mouth shut and play football.
Normally, I'd agree....but in this case it seems pretty clear that the coach has been neither forthcoming nor honest in his dealings with his FRANCHISE QB. What coach in his right mind tells his franchise QB he'd rather have another team's BACKUP as his his starter????? (Nothing personel of course!) Regardless of any other he-said, she-said BS, that's a coaching blunder of epic proportions, and Cutler has plenty of reasons to be pissed. Cutler is a franchise caliber, pro-bowl QB!Seriously....I wouldn't show up to ANYTHING voluntary either.
In your first sentence you suggest that McDaniel hasn't been "forthcoming nor honest". In your 2nd sentence, you bash McDaniel for being too honest.Which is it?

 
Normally, I'd agree....but in this case it seems pretty clear that the coach has been neither forthcoming nor honest in his dealings with his FRANCHISE QB. What coach in his right mind tells his franchise QB he'd rather have another team's BACKUP as his his starter????? (Nothing personel of course!)
Are you saying that McDaniels was too forthcoming and honest with Cutler, and shouldn't have been?ETA: tGunZ beat me.

 
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IMO this certainly makes the decision to fire Shanahan look worse in retrospect. He certainly wouldn't have tried to trade Cutler or change the offense. Maybe he would have once again failed to fix the defense, but I bet Broncos fans are already missing Shanny.

 
He needs to buy some humble and go about the job he's under contract for.
Nothing angers me more in the NFL than players thinking they are bigger than the team.Dude is slipping into "thug" territory.
There is nothing more amusing to me than a coach thinking he is bigger than the team. Dude is slipping into "Petrino" territory
Not really. If anyone is acting bigger than the franchise, it's Cutler.
 
The problem is that McDaniel and the Broncos are being too honest with Culter, telling him that they'll listen to offers for anyone, instead of lying to him to make his warm fuzzies feel better.

What a ####### baby Jay Cutler is. Get over it already. Skipping workouts b/c his feelings are hurt? Are you kidding me?
:lmao: So....You believe that not only is Cassel a better QB then Cutler, but that he's so much better that McD is justified in misleading Cutler? I get it, and AGREE that no individual player is bigger then the team. BUT, (and this is a HUGE BUT), Franchise QB's are NOT the players you screw around with. Nowhere in the stories we've read is there even the smallest amount of commitment from McDaniels towards Cutler...NONE. ZERO. For a young, pro-bowl, franchise caliber QB? Instead...we see a desire to land Cassel. Sorry dude...that makes no sense. Cutler may be handling this badly, but McDaniel's is absolutely off his rocker with how he's dealt with all of this, in more ways then one!

 

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