D. Moore vs j. ford (1 Viewer)

[dboysrock94]

Who will be the better pickup? Moore had double the targets at 12 but ford out produced him with only 6 targets. both are available in most redraft ww any input on who will be better acquisition for the rest off the year

 

[Kuz]

I would go with Ford for sure.

 

[Air Stich]

This post is a little late for most leagues. Both were likely waivered this morning if they weren't rostered already. I also like Ford more, but there's no real way to know at this point who will perform better.

 

[DoubleG]

Just a thought before anyone goes with Ford "for sure"...

Ford's targets since week 2: 7,4,5,B,6

Moore's over the same period: 6,4,5,B,12

Point: IMHO, Ford's production is the outlier here. It seems (At least after only 1 week - which is hardly a given as an indicator) that the Raiders used the bye to make a more concentrated effort to get Moore the ball, well, more. As such Moore would be the better bet for consistant production (presuming the 2:1 target ratio isn't as flukey as Ford's production).

I am not saying that Moore is clearly the better choice - just that "for sure" is hardly applicable when you're talking about a 12:6:1 target ratio amoungst the 3 WRs coming out of the bye week with their new QB.

 

[Saint]

Just a thought before anyone goes with Ford "for sure"...

Ford's targets since week 2: 7,4,5,B,6

Moore's over the same period: 6,4,5,B,12

Point: IMHO, Ford's production is the outlier here. It seems (At least after only 1 week - which is hardly a given as an indicator) that the Raiders used the bye to make a more concentrated effort to get Moore the ball, well, more. As such Moore would be the better bet for consistant production (presuming the 2:1 target ratio isn't as flukey as Ford's production).

I am not saying that Moore is clearly the better choice - just that "for sure" is hardly applicable when you're talking about a 12:6:1 target ratio amoungst the 3 WRs coming out of the bye week with their new QB.

Hasn't Ford been gimpy? I thought that was his knock the last several weeks, which could explain the lack of targets.

 

[Rylenol]

If you rewatch the plays in the game you'll notice that Carson Palmer threw deep Moore's way on a number of occasions. He overthrew Moore on a gain that should have been about 25 so his stat line could have easily looked something like 6-100+ had they connected on one of the four deep throws. We'd be looking at a large yardage total. Just saying.

 

[Ditka is God]

If you rewatch the plays in the game you'll notice that Carson Palmer threw deep Moore's way on a number of occasions. He overthrew Moore on a gain that should have been about 25 so his stat line could have easily looked something like 6-100+ had they connected on one of the four deep throws. We'd be looking at a large yardage total. Just saying.

Excellent point!

 

[DeaLerZ]

If you rewatch the plays in the game you'll notice that Carson Palmer threw deep Moore's way on a number of occasions. He overthrew Moore on a gain that should have been about 25 so his stat line could have easily looked something like 6-100+ had they connected on one of the four deep throws. We'd be looking at a large yardage total. Just saying.

Excellent point!

And that is exactly why I think Moore will be more hit or miss, and Ford will be more consistent going forward

 

[JD8p]

Take your pick...I lean Moore, but can't argue with someone who says Ford.

 

[the spanker]

If you rewatch the plays in the game you'll notice that Carson Palmer threw deep Moore's way on a number of occasions. He overthrew Moore on a gain that should have been about 25 so his stat line could have easily looked something like 6-100+ had they connected on one of the four deep throws. We'd be looking at a large yardage total. Just saying.

Excellent point!

And that is exactly why I think Moore will be more hit or miss, and Ford will be more consistent going forward

Because of that when Palmer will only get better? I'll take the 2-1 targets to Moore over Ford (just as explosive)every day of the week.

 

[finito]

Is DHB just finished now?

 

[the spanker]

Just a thought before anyone goes with Ford "for sure"...

Ford's targets since week 2: 7,4,5,B,6

Moore's over the same period: 6,4,5,B,12

Point: IMHO, Ford's production is the outlier here. It seems (At least after only 1 week - which is hardly a given as an indicator) that the Raiders used the bye to make a more concentrated effort to get Moore the ball, well, more. As such Moore would be the better bet for consistant production (presuming the 2:1 target ratio isn't as flukey as Ford's production).

I am not saying that Moore is clearly the better choice - just that "for sure" is hardly applicable when you're talking about a 12:6:1 target ratio amoungst the 3 WRs coming out of the bye week with their new QB.

Hasn't Ford been gimpy? I thought that was his knock the last several weeks, which could explain the lack of targets.

Yes but didn't explain it this week as his 5-105-1 shows he's healthy

 

[Cookiemonster]

Is DHB just finished now?

God knows. And that's only if Al Davis has invited Him to the team meetings in the sky. I'm calling schitzo personnel and snap count for the remainder of the year. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Derek Hagan or Chaz Schilens be the top reciever for one of the remaining weeks.

 

[djmich]

If you rewatch the plays in the game you'll notice that Carson Palmer threw deep Moore's way on a number of occasions. He overthrew Moore on a gain that should have been about 25 so his stat line could have easily looked something like 6-100+ had they connected on one of the four deep throws. We'd be looking at a large yardage total. Just saying.

I think there were 2 PI's on throws to Moore as well, so even though targets didn't equate to big catch numbers the PI's still means they were productive.

 

[The_U]

Is DHB just finished now?

God knows. And that's only if Al Davis has invited Him to the team meetings in the sky. I'm calling schitzo personnel and snap count for the remainder of the year. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Derek Hagan or Chaz Schilens be the top reciever for one of the remaining weeks.

Fairly sure Hagan was released when TJ was signed.

 

[Rylenol]

What I'm saying is if we are going by what we've seen from both of them and factor in this last game with a more comfortable Palmer then I think you gotta take everything into consideration. Moore was targeted 12 times...Jacoby Ford was 6...that's double the targets. Now, Ford was able to turn his 6 looks into 5 catches for 100 yds and a beautiful 18 yard TD reception. Moore racked up 60 or so yards on 4 catches on his 12 targets but like I said before, it was a Palmer overthrow that prevented him from adding a catch for 20+ yards to his statline. Palmer also threw deep to Moore on a number of occasions as a first read. First read. If we are looking at what we should be looking at, this past game + previous history, wouldn't that result in the conclusion that Moore's role will be both significant and productive? Add to that the fact he's been a constant in that offense since he stepped into the lineup.

If you rewatch the plays in the game you'll notice that Carson Palmer threw deep Moore's way on a number of occasions. He overthrew Moore on a gain that should have been about 25 so his stat line could have easily looked something like 6-100+ had they connected on one of the four deep throws. We'd be looking at a large yardage total. Just saying.

Excellent point!

And that is exactly why I think Moore will be more hit or miss, and Ford will be more consistent going forward

 

[tud_duke]

I'm starting both this week. Ford had the stats, Moore had the looks, toss up to me.

 

[elbowrm]

I really liked seeing Moore going across the middle and making 2 sweet grabs in traffic, as well as the fact that Palmer was locked in on him on their last drives. DHB cold come back this week and throw it wide open again though, for all we know.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Good luck guessing which Oakland WR will be the guy each week. Any one of them could go for 100+yds/1TD or they could get you a zero. Moore got zero points in week 5-7. Last week it was DHB. This week Ford will probably vanish. It's too risky to start any of them.

 

[DeaLerZ]

What I'm saying is if we are going by what we've seen from both of them and factor in this last game with a more comfortable Palmer then I think you gotta take everything into consideration. Moore was targeted 12 times...Jacoby Ford was 6...that's double the targets. Now, Ford was able to turn his 6 looks into 5 catches for 100 yds and a beautiful 18 yard TD reception. Moore racked up 60 or so yards on 4 catches on his 12 targets but like I said before, it was a Palmer overthrow that prevented him from adding a catch for 20+ yards to his statline. Palmer also threw deep to Moore on a number of occasions as a first read. First read. If we are looking at what we should be looking at, this past game + previous history, wouldn't that result in the conclusion that Moore's role will be both significant and productive? Add to that the fact he's been a constant in that offense since he stepped into the lineup.

If you rewatch the plays in the game you'll notice that Carson Palmer threw deep Moore's way on a number of occasions. He overthrew Moore on a gain that should have been about 25 so his stat line could have easily looked something like 6-100+ had they connected on one of the four deep throws. We'd be looking at a large yardage total. Just saying.

Excellent point!

And that is exactly why I think Moore will be more hit or miss, and Ford will be more consistent going forward

I don't care how many times Denarius Moore was targeted last week... he needs to consistently be targeted twice as much as the other WR's to make that argument.... and no he has not been a constant part of that offense... he has been completely hit or miss all season long.. for all we know last week could have just been the fact that the Raiders saw a "mismatch" in denver's coverage and were trying to exploit itWeek 1 -Week 2 5 rec, 146 yds, 1 TDWeek 3 4 rec, 34ydsWeek 4 3 rec, 19yds, 1 TDWeek 5 0 recWeek 6 1 rec, 9ydsWeek 7 1 rec, 4 ydsWeek 8 ByeWeek 9 4 rec, 64 ydsnot exactly what i would call consistent numbersyou could make the exact same argument for Jacoby Ford who has been inconsistent and that they could have just used him more last week to take advantage of a "mismatch", but he has been dealing with a nagging injury all year long... so I think with him you have to take into account that he was supposed to be the #1 guy from day 1, and so far since he has been healthy he has lived up to that...but at the same time its the freaking raiders... who will be devoted to the run as long as they are in the game.. and the only way they will throw that much is in a high scoring game where they are getting their ### kicked.. and not to mention not a single one of their WR's has been consistent all year long.. besides DHB for a few games.. and than he gets left out of the game plan last weekso to me... i really think it is all speculation at this point.. and we should wait one more week to see how things play out ... other wise I would not waste your time with the Raiders WR's because they are all "hit" or "miss" and have been all year long

 

[elbowrm]

Worth a flyer though - palmer chucks it up there a lot more than campbell.

 

[Rylenol]

You make some valid points but just so I'm clear, when I said Moore's been a constant in that offense I meant that he's been on the field often. You are right. All we can do is speculate. We've got no concrete evidence that says DHB won't be back in the gameplan this week. We're not sure what the specific plans are for any Oakland WR. What I'm basing much of my speculation on is a fully comfortable Carson Palmer who once upon a time made two WRs on the Bengals quite productive for fantasy purposes. Obviously the Raiders are a run first team but you could make the argument they haven't had a pocket passer like Palmer (if he is in fact back) in some time.

What I'm saying is if we are going by what we've seen from both of them and factor in this last game with a more comfortable Palmer then I think you gotta take everything into consideration. Moore was targeted 12 times...Jacoby Ford was 6...that's double the targets. Now, Ford was able to turn his 6 looks into 5 catches for 100 yds and a beautiful 18 yard TD reception. Moore racked up 60 or so yards on 4 catches on his 12 targets but like I said before, it was a Palmer overthrow that prevented him from adding a catch for 20+ yards to his statline. Palmer also threw deep to Moore on a number of occasions as a first read. First read. If we are looking at what we should be looking at, this past game + previous history, wouldn't that result in the conclusion that Moore's role will be both significant and productive? Add to that the fact he's been a constant in that offense since he stepped into the lineup.

If you rewatch the plays in the game you'll notice that Carson Palmer threw deep Moore's way on a number of occasions. He overthrew Moore on a gain that should have been about 25 so his stat line could have easily looked something like 6-100+ had they connected on one of the four deep throws. We'd be looking at a large yardage total. Just saying.

Excellent point!

And that is exactly why I think Moore will be more hit or miss, and Ford will be more consistent going forward

I don't care how many times Denarius Moore was targeted last week... he needs to consistently be targeted twice as much as the other WR's to make that argument.... and no he has not been a constant part of that offense... he has been completely hit or miss all season long.. for all we know last week could have just been the fact that the Raiders saw a "mismatch" in denver's coverage and were trying to exploit itWeek 1 -Week 2 5 rec, 146 yds, 1 TDWeek 3 4 rec, 34ydsWeek 4 3 rec, 19yds, 1 TDWeek 5 0 recWeek 6 1 rec, 9ydsWeek 7 1 rec, 4 ydsWeek 8 ByeWeek 9 4 rec, 64 ydsnot exactly what i would call consistent numbersyou could make the exact same argument for Jacoby Ford who has been inconsistent and that they could have just used him more last week to take advantage of a "mismatch", but he has been dealing with a nagging injury all year long... so I think with him you have to take into account that he was supposed to be the #1 guy from day 1, and so far since he has been healthy he has lived up to that...but at the same time its the freaking raiders... who will be devoted to the run as long as they are in the game.. and the only way they will throw that much is in a high scoring game where they are getting their ### kicked.. and not to mention not a single one of their WR's has been consistent all year long.. besides DHB for a few games.. and than he gets left out of the game plan last weekso to me... i really think it is all speculation at this point.. and we should wait one more week to see how things play out ... other wise I would not waste your time with the Raiders WR's because they are all "hit" or "miss" and have been all year long

 

[shnikies]

Good luck guessing which Oakland WR will be the guy each week. Any one of them could go for 100+yds/1TD or they could get you a zero. Moore got zero points in week 5-7. Last week it was DHB. This week Ford will probably vanish. It's too risky to start any of them.

Until McFadden comes back they'll both be involved enough to be consistent. DHB is out of the picture. There's a reason why he didn't play coming off the bye for Palmer's first start.

 

[cubbie5150]

All I know is that as long as Moore is NOT in my starting lineup, he has a chance to score well. If I start him? Forget about it!!!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Do you really want to know what happened with Darrius Heyward-Bey last week? Yeah, me too. I'm going with the working theory that the coaches believe that Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford are better at football and now don't have to worry about that phone ringing from high above.

The target numbers favor Moore by a wide margin but the production went to Ford. Both have the ability to take consistent targets to the bank and/or end zone

 

[otis68]

Looking back weeks 4-7, Moore and DHB were the clear starters, each getting 70-90% of the snaps, while it looks like Ford only got in the game on 3WR+ sets, between 25-45% of the snaps.

Week9 that flipped, with Ford and Moore starting and getting 92 and 80% of the snaps, while DHB was in for only 34% of the snaps and only 25% of the passing downs.

So huge trend reversal in playing time with Ford, but Moore had been getting just as much PT in the 4 weeks prior.

As far as targets go Moore got alot more. Made a couple nice catches over the middle. Had a couple balls thrown to him on the sideline that were tough but catchable, one he couldn't hold onto and another which was underthrown and he got outcompeted for and wound up being intercepted. Several underthrown and overthrown balls that it is hard for me to know if that was on Palmer or on Moore for not running a precise route (including a high ball that was tipped by moore for an INT...hard to know if Moore wasn't deep enough or Palmer overthrew). And a couple that Moore clearly was not where Palmer expected him to be.

As for Ford, when he got the ball thrown at him, he had good separation and a crisp route. Except for the last one where Palmer was expecting him to curl his route when Ford went deep, and Bailey came back on the ball for the INT.

Anyway, my whole point in running through all this is to figure out if I can trust either of these guys enough to insert into my lineup tonight. For me the safest play is Moore. His playing time has not changed since palmer came in, he got alot of opportunities, my only concern is whether the low catch rate is due to Palmers accuracy or his not being where he is supposed to be.

Ford on the other had got great separation, including a beautiful comeback move on Bailey that got him open for a 30 yd catch and run. Definitely a more polished receiver than Moore. But the question here is will he still be on the field for almost all the passing downs, and will he continue to get a lot of opportunities, or was this a one off game plan thing, and will DHB get inserted back in for a majority of snaps.

So I'm leaning towards starting Moore tonight in one league as a flex (over L Robinson), sitting Ford behind Holmes and Brown in a second league, and am leaning towards starting Manningham over Ford (or Moore, who is available) in a third.

 

[Touchdown There]

Do you really want to know what happened with Darrius Heyward-Bey last week? Yeah, me too. I'm going with the working theory that the coaches believe that Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford are better at football and now don't have to worry about that phone ringing from high above.

Exactly.

 

[Touchdown There]

Just a thought before anyone goes with Ford "for sure"...

Ford's targets since week 2: 7,4,5,B,6

Moore's over the same period: 6,4,5,B,12

Point: IMHO, Ford's production is the outlier here. It seems (At least after only 1 week - which is hardly a given as an indicator) that the Raiders used the bye to make a more concentrated effort to get Moore the ball, well, more. As such Moore would be the better bet for consistant production (presuming the 2:1 target ratio isn't as flukey as Ford's production).

I am not saying that Moore is clearly the better choice - just that "for sure" is hardly applicable when you're talking about a 12:6:1 target ratio amoungst the 3 WRs coming out of the bye week with their new QB.

This post discusses the past, when there was a different QB, different owner, and Jacoby Ford had a bad hamstring. Ford is now healthy with a new QB, which is why this post is relevant right now. In short, we all get your point but it has no application. Who is playing the X role and who is the Z?

 

[jackdubl]

On the week 10 Preview Show Bloom said Ford should be played as a borderline WR1?

 

[rickyg]

Take everything that happened from weeks 1-7 for the raiders passing game and throw it out the window. That was with a different QB. anyone who knows football or human nature knows that. Look at the difference in sidney rice's stats when whitehurst plays and when tjax plays. rice and tjax have a good connection. They meld. Whitehurst prefers to throw in other directions.

DHB was a favorite target of campbell and Boller.

Now look back at palmers time in cincy. He made Ocho cinco fantasy relevant. Then he began in later years to favor TJ housh. Then he made TO a fantasy factor last year. Palmer has a history of building a rapport with certain wr's and feeding them the ball.

It's safe to say after last week that he seems to like throwing to moore and ford, in that order. But he REALLY had GREAT things to say about Ford after the game. This can't be overlooked. I wouldnt blame anyone for leaving ford on their bench this week and taking a wait and see approach a-la "that was nice, lets see it twice!".

But I picked up Ford in all leagues, just in case, and im starting him in 2 as my flex over jackie battle...which might be a mistake bc battle has a tasty matchup, but...whatevs! lol

 

[DeaLerZ]

You make some valid points but just so I'm clear, when I said Moore's been a constant in that offense I meant that he's been on the field often. You are right. All we can do is speculate. We've got no concrete evidence that says DHB won't be back in the gameplan this week. We're not sure what the specific plans are for any Oakland WR. What I'm basing much of my speculation on is a fully comfortable Carson Palmer who once upon a time made two WRs on the Bengals quite productive for fantasy purposes. Obviously the Raiders are a run first team but you could make the argument they haven't had a pocket passer like Palmer (if he is in fact back) in some time.

What I'm saying is if we are going by what we've seen from both of them and factor in this last game with a more comfortable Palmer then I think you gotta take everything into consideration. Moore was targeted 12 times...Jacoby Ford was 6...that's double the targets. Now, Ford was able to turn his 6 looks into 5 catches for 100 yds and a beautiful 18 yard TD reception. Moore racked up 60 or so yards on 4 catches on his 12 targets but like I said before, it was a Palmer overthrow that prevented him from adding a catch for 20+ yards to his statline. Palmer also threw deep to Moore on a number of occasions as a first read. First read. If we are looking at what we should be looking at, this past game + previous history, wouldn't that result in the conclusion that Moore's role will be both significant and productive? Add to that the fact he's been a constant in that offense since he stepped into the lineup.

If you rewatch the plays in the game you'll notice that Carson Palmer threw deep Moore's way on a number of occasions. He overthrew Moore on a gain that should have been about 25 so his stat line could have easily looked something like 6-100+ had they connected on one of the four deep throws. We'd be looking at a large yardage total. Just saying.

Excellent point!

And that is exactly why I think Moore will be more hit or miss, and Ford will be more consistent going forward

I don't care how many times Denarius Moore was targeted last week... he needs to consistently be targeted twice as much as the other WR's to make that argument.... and no he has not been a constant part of that offense... he has been completely hit or miss all season long.. for all we know last week could have just been the fact that the Raiders saw a "mismatch" in denver's coverage and were trying to exploit itWeek 1 -Week 2 5 rec, 146 yds, 1 TDWeek 3 4 rec, 34ydsWeek 4 3 rec, 19yds, 1 TDWeek 5 0 recWeek 6 1 rec, 9ydsWeek 7 1 rec, 4 ydsWeek 8 ByeWeek 9 4 rec, 64 ydsnot exactly what i would call consistent numbersyou could make the exact same argument for Jacoby Ford who has been inconsistent and that they could have just used him more last week to take advantage of a "mismatch", but he has been dealing with a nagging injury all year long... so I think with him you have to take into account that he was supposed to be the #1 guy from day 1, and so far since he has been healthy he has lived up to that...but at the same time its the freaking raiders... who will be devoted to the run as long as they are in the game.. and the only way they will throw that much is in a high scoring game where they are getting their ### kicked.. and not to mention not a single one of their WR's has been consistent all year long.. besides DHB for a few games.. and than he gets left out of the game plan last weekso to me... i really think it is all speculation at this point.. and we should wait one more week to see how things play out ... other wise I would not waste your time with the Raiders WR's because they are all "hit" or "miss" and have been all year long

Gotcha, and I totally agree man.. Palmer could definitely make Moore and Ford fantasy relevant.. I had Moore earlier in the year and luckily traded him away before he had a few games where he did nothing for a RB that i needed.. and recently have picked up Jacoby Ford in both of my leagues because he is the more polished guy and was supposed to breakout this yearbut like you said.. it could be either guy.. and hopefully Palmer makes both of them relevant for all of us

 

[packersfan]

On the week 10 Preview Show Bloom said Ford should be played as a borderline WR1?

I like Ford this week but wow that's pretty bold. Sure hope he's right.

 

[ourmanflint]

Palmer sure threw at Moore a lot. Often he either misfired, the wrong route was run or they read the coverage differently. At the end, in garbage time he almost exclusively went to Moore and connected.

On the other hand, whenever he went to Ford it was a big play. Ford has scintillating run after catch ability and turned several comebacks into exciting plays. Someone said his game resembles Steve Smith (CAR). I agree with that but I think he's more explosive than Smith if that's possible.

 

[kimbosliced]

Looking at Blooms rankings today. How is Ford a borderline WR1? He's like 11 or 12. Moore is way down there.

 

[MIMN]

Looking at Blooms rankings today. How is Ford a borderline WR1? He's like 11 or 12. Moore is way down there.

Aren't most league 10-12 teams. Wouldn't that make him a WR1 if 12 teams and borderline if 10 teams?

 

[Sabertooth]

Looking at Blooms rankings today. How is Ford a borderline WR1? He's like 11 or 12. Moore is way down there.

Interesting. I'm thinking of dropping Torrey Smith for Moore.

 

[kimbosliced]

Anyway to know about who is getting 1st team reps?

 

[packersfan]

Anyway to know about who is getting 1st team reps?

I haven't seen any updates this week but typically on short weeks teams don't change what they had done the previous Sunday. So my guess is Ford and Moore will be the primary WRs again tonight.

 

[Maui Monster]

I am high on Moore. Palmer's accuracy is going to come back. The targets are going to translate into catches. I could see Moore becoming the dominant receiver here... He would seem to fill the roll Chad Johnson had in Cin for Palmer.

 

[Sabertooth]

I am high on Moore. Palmer's accuracy is going to come back. The targets are going to translate into catches. I could see Moore becoming the dominant receiver here... He would seem to fill the roll Chad Johnson had in Cin for Palmer.

I just cut Torrey Smith for him. Plus, he's playing tonight so I'll get to watch the whole game. I'd love to see him become Housh to Ford's Ocho.

 

[kimbosliced]

Anyone else see starting Ford (even with Blooms high ranking) as a big risk?

 

[Apple Jack]

Palmer sure threw at Moore a lot. Often he either misfired, the wrong route was run or they read the coverage differently. At the end, in garbage time he almost exclusively went to Moore and connected.On the other hand, whenever he went to Ford it was a big play. Ford has scintillating run after catch ability and turned several comebacks into exciting plays. Someone said his game resembles Steve Smith (CAR). I agree with that but I think he's more explosive than Smith if that's possible.

This. Between the garbage time element and the quality of the Ford targets, I went Ford. If it was as easy as just airing it out to deep routes over and over, everybody would do it. Granted Palmer will continue to get more accurate, but it looks to me that the Ford targets are more valuable and he and Palmer appear to have a chemistry developing.

 

[Rylenol]

Wednesday press conference with Hugh Jackson per Raider's website:

"Q: Is T.J. [Houshmandzadeh] ready for a bigger role?

Coach Jackson: Yes he’s better; he’s understanding the system better. As I said, T.J. has a role on this team and I think I kind of carved it out and know what it is but I’m not going to take away from our young guys. Our young guys are the future of this organization and they’re the guys – Jacoby Ford was outstanding last week. I mean the plays he made I don’t think anyone has seen that young man do what he did last week. Catching the ball and running after catching the way he was. I mean he threw it short and he ran deep. I think those guys are really starting to hit their stride. Denarius Moore had a good game last week. Obviously, we didn’t hear much from Darius Heyward-Bey but that’s going to be week to week. One guy’s going to have one, another guy’s going to have one and then on you go but I think consistently the young guys, the young receivers on our team is where we’re going to get our bread and butter and T.J. is the old vet guy that brings a whole different experience and vibe to that group. So, I think he’s helped them. I think if you asked those young men, he’s already helped them by being here, by what he’s done, the things he’s been able to show them. Sometimes, your value is not just measured in how much you play. It’s about information you’re able to impart about different things and I think that’s very important for this football team right now. "

 

[Topes]

Well said, coach. I had heard precious little about Ford and Moore being total headcase divas.

Housh will set them right, learning them up to be true NFL WRs.

Bring on the reality shows.

 

[Hanz]

Anyone starting D.Moore tonight? I need to pick between him and some over WW guys (DamianWilliams/Nelson/Little) and just can't seem to decide.

 

[JD8p]

I would like to...bit I just can't start him over Santonio against NE.

 

[cubbie5150]

Anyone starting D.Moore tonight? I need to pick between him and some over WW guys (DamianWilliams/Nelson/Little) and just can't seem to decide.

Hell, I'm contemplating plugging him in at FLEX over Aaron Hernandez/Beanie Wells....currently trying to talk myself off the ledge, lmao. Every year I make a lineup decision like this based purely on gut feel, usually successful. I haven't done it yet this year, so I guess I'm due. hahaha

 

[tunamelt warrior]

I have Ford AND Moore, and have been struggling over which one to start because Miles Austin is out for me. Ford and Moore both have the ability to put up one big play during the game that is enough to justify their start. I am leaning towards Moore because...

1. I believe he will still get more targets

2. Ford will see the Chargers best corner, Quentin Jammer most of the game (yes, I know he is no Revis)

3. The Charger and Raider defenses simply aren't that great. I see a lot of scoring in this game between hated rivals

4. Moore has a slight edge in rushing yardage over Ford. He could very well score tonight (he rushed one in against the Jets in week 3)

The problem is there is not a large sample size to work from this season regarding either player. Going with my gut here, but I'm giving Moore the start.

 

[kimbosliced]

Reviewing play by play, in one series. D. Moore got 5 targets lol. It was in the fourth when the game was def in reach. He caught to of these 5 for like 35 yards. Would you consider this garbage time? Still 5 minutes left in the 4th and they are down a TD.

 

[kimbosliced]

In the previous 3 quarters, they are pretty much even as far as targets. I think D. Moore may have had 1 more but Ford just killed it.