2025 FBG Subscriber Contest (5 Viewers)

[TheWinz]

QB - Jared Goff - DET/8 - $16
QB - Tua Tagovailoa - MIA/12 - $10
QB - Russell Wilson - NYG/14 - $9

Did you add Wilson mostly because you wanted Tua at his cost, but then felt you needed a 3rd QB because of his injury history?

Wilson is just bye/emergency cover should one of the 2 above him get injured. Yes I hate to sink $9 into a player that may not play, but for the reasons I already highlighted further up, I will always have a 3rd option there. Russ seemed the cheapest insurance cost that should mostly start this year. I may change the 3rd QB or even Tua depending on how things leading up to the deadline.

Ah yes, I remember you saying 3 QB's is a must from now on. Have you considered rostering both Richardson and Jones instead of Tua and Wilson? It's built-in injury insurance, and would take 2 injuries in order to lose 1 QB.

 

[Dacomish]

QB - Jared Goff - DET/8 - $16
QB - Tua Tagovailoa - MIA/12 - $10
QB - Russell Wilson - NYG/14 - $9

Did you add Wilson mostly because you wanted Tua at his cost, but then felt you needed a 3rd QB because of his injury history?

Wilson is just bye/emergency cover should one of the 2 above him get injured. Yes I hate to sink $9 into a player that may not play, but for the reasons I already highlighted further up, I will always have a 3rd option there. Russ seemed the cheapest insurance cost that should mostly start this year. I may change the 3rd QB or even Tua depending on how things leading up to the deadline.

Ah yes, I remember you saying 3 QB's is a must from now on. Have you considered rostering both Richardson and Jones instead of Tua and Wilson? It's built-in injury insurance, and would take 2 injuries in order to lose 1 QB.

But that doesn't solve the issue - If I did that and Goff got injured, what happens when Jones/Richardson are on bye? That one week with 0 points from the QB spot could be an absolute death call for my team advancing.

 

[BlackCrowes]

i like Purdy and Maye, but hate those week 14 byes

 

[Uruk-Hai]

First cut

QB - Jordan Love - 15
QB - Tua Tagovailoa - 10
QB - Matthew Stafford - 10
RB - Derrick Henry - 31
RB - Kenneth Walker III - 23
RB - Chuba Hubbard - 20
RB - Nick Chubb - 8
WR - Zay Flowers - 16
WR - Travis Hunter - 16
WR - Deebo Samuel Sr. - 14
WR - Stefon Diggs - 13
WR - Christian Kirk - 10
WR - Xavier Legette - 8
WR - Romeo Doubs - 6
WR - Tim Patrick - 2
TE - Zach Ertz - 9
TE - Pat Freiermuth - 9
TE - Cade Otton - 8
PK - Tyler Loop - 4
PK - Daniel Carlson - 4
PK - Cairo Santos - 3
TD - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 4
TD - New York Jets - 4
TD - Atlanta Falcons - 3
Total value: 250

 

[barackdhouse]

1st iteration ship it

QB - Trevor Lawrence - JAX/8 - $15
QB - Anthony Richardson Sr. - IND/11 - $11
RB - Derrick Henry - BAL/7 - $31
RB - RJ Harvey - DEN/12 - $19
RB - Kaleb Johnson - PIT/5 - $16
RB - Jaydon Blue - DAL/10 - $11
RB - Jacory Croskey-Merritt - WAS/12 - $6
RB - Tahj Brooks - CIN/10 - $4
RB - Jarquez Hunter - LAR/8 - $4
WR - DK Metcalf - PIT/5 - $17
WR - Keon Coleman - BUF/7 - $12
WR - Emeka Egbuka - TB/9 - $10
WR - Jayden Higgins - HOU/6 - $7
WR - Marquise Brown - KC/10 - $6
WR - Dont'e Thornton Jr. - LV/8 - $4
WR - Devaughn Vele - DEN/12 - $4
WR - Troy Franklin - DEN/12 - $3
WR - Pat Bryant - DEN/12 - $2
WR - Kyle Williams - NE/14 - $2
TE - George Kittle - SF/14 - $25
TE - Brenton Strange - JAX/8 - $12
TE - Terrance Ferguson - LAR/8 - $5
TE - Ben Sinnott - WAS/12 - $3
PK - Younghoe Koo - ATL/5 - $4
PK - Chad Ryland - ARI/8 - $4
PK - Evan McPherson - CIN/10 - $4
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3
TD - Miami Dolphins - MIA/12 - $3

 

[Rubi]

First cut

QB - Jordan Love - 15
QB - Tua Tagovailoa - 10
QB - Matthew Stafford - 10
RB - Derrick Henry - 31
RB - Kenneth Walker III - 23
RB - Chuba Hubbard - 20
RB - Nick Chubb - 8
WR - Zay Flowers - 16
WR - Travis Hunter - 16
WR - Deebo Samuel Sr. - 14
WR - Stefon Diggs - 13
WR - Christian Kirk - 10
WR - Xavier Legette - 8
WR - Romeo Doubs - 6
WR - Tim Patrick - 2
TE - Zach Ertz - 9
TE - Pat Freiermuth - 9
TE - Cade Otton - 8
PK - Tyler Loop - 4
PK - Daniel Carlson - 4
PK - Cairo Santos - 3
TD - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 4
TD - New York Jets - 4
TD - Atlanta Falcons - 3
Total value: 250

OK,looks like a winner. I'll copy

 

[Rubi]

1st iteration ship it

QB - Trevor Lawrence - JAX/8 - $15
QB - Anthony Richardson Sr. - IND/11 - $11
RB - Derrick Henry - BAL/7 - $31
RB - RJ Harvey - DEN/12 - $19
RB - Kaleb Johnson - PIT/5 - $16
RB - Jaydon Blue - DAL/10 - $11
RB - Jacory Croskey-Merritt - WAS/12 - $6
RB - Tahj Brooks - CIN/10 - $4
RB - Jarquez Hunter - LAR/8 - $4
WR - DK Metcalf - PIT/5 - $17
WR - Keon Coleman - BUF/7 - $12
WR - Emeka Egbuka - TB/9 - $10
WR - Jayden Higgins - HOU/6 - $7
WR - Marquise Brown - KC/10 - $6
WR - Dont'e Thornton Jr. - LV/8 - $4
WR - Devaughn Vele - DEN/12 - $4
WR - Troy Franklin - DEN/12 - $3
WR - Pat Bryant - DEN/12 - $2
WR - Kyle Williams - NE/14 - $2
TE - George Kittle - SF/14 - $25
TE - Brenton Strange - JAX/8 - $12
TE - Terrance Ferguson - LAR/8 - $5
TE - Ben Sinnott - WAS/12 - $3
PK - Younghoe Koo - ATL/5 - $4
PK - Chad Ryland - ARI/8 - $4
PK - Evan McPherson - CIN/10 - $4
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3
TD - Miami Dolphins - MIA/12 - $3

OK,looks like a winner,I'll copy

 

[WoodedHills]

The contest. Now it feels like football season.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

if there was such a thing as "conventional wisdom" over the years...there are of course big arguments on either side of the X.5 position totals...especially considering 12 qb guy and 14 te guy.

qb $30-35 2.5 qbs
rb $80-90 4.5 rbs
wr $75-85 5.5 wrs
te $35-$40 3.0 tes
pk $9-11 3.0 pks
td $8-10 2.5 tds

avg roster size 20.5

 

[IHEARTFF]

i like Purdy and Maye, but hate those week 14 byes

F those week 14 byes indeed

 

[IHEARTFF]

Hard for me to deviate much from this set up
3 QB
6 RB
6 WR
5 TE
3 K
3 D
26 total
0 week 14 byes

 

[TheWinz]

i like Purdy and Maye, but hate those week 14 byes

F those week 14 byes indeed

Last year, WR Mike Williams didn't have a bye, because he got traded midseason. Sure, he gave you 7 goose eggs and 9 games in single digits, but he didn't have a bye.

 

[joey]

TD - New York Jets - NYJ/9 - $4
TD - Kansas City Chiefs - KC/10 - $4

I have to ask - why these 2 particular D's? Do you simply think they are the best of the $4 group?

I have a great reason why I picked those 2 defenses. It required tons of thought and research:

1) get list all of the cheapest defenses
2) go to FBG redraft Team Defense rankings
3) pick the top 2 that didn't have the same bye week.

End of research.

 

[TheWinz]

TD - New York Jets - NYJ/9 - $4
TD - Kansas City Chiefs - KC/10 - $4

I have to ask - why these 2 particular D's? Do you simply think they are the best of the $4 group?

I have a great reason why I picked those 2 defenses. It required tons of thought and research:

1) get list all of the cheapest defenses
2) go to FBG redraft Team Defense rankings
3) pick the top 2 that didn't have the same bye week.

End of research.

Now that's some high quality H2O!

 

[Mojo56]

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/10 - $20
QB - Drake Maye - NE/14 - $17
RB - Tony Pollard - TEN/10 - $19
RB - Brian Robinson Jr. - WAS/12 - $18
RB - Ray Davis - BUF/7 - $12
RB - Braelon Allen - NYJ/9 - $10
RB - Nick Chubb - HOU/6 - $8
RB - Miles Sanders - DAL/10 - $8
RB - Kyle Monangai - CHI/5 - $4
WR - Xavier Worthy - KC/10 - $25
WR - Stefon Diggs - NE/14 - $13
WR - Luther Burden III - CHI/5 - $10
WR - Calvin Austin III - PIT/5 - $8
WR - DeMario Douglas - NE/14 - $7
WR - Joshua Palmer - BUF/7 - $7
WR - Keenan Allen - LAC/12 - $5
WR - Pat Bryant - DEN/12 - $2
TE - Dallas Goedert - PHI/9 - $11
TE - Zach Ertz - WAS/12 - $9
TE - Pat Freiermuth - PIT/5 - $9
TE - Mason Taylor - NYJ/9 - $7
TE - Harold Fannin Jr. - CLE/9 - $4
PK - Blake Grupe - NO/11 - $3
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Matthew Wright - CAR/14 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/12 - $4
TD - New York Jets - NYJ/9 - $4

Labor of love putting this together. Hours of work which I'm sure will be amended a bunch of times before the final draft is submitted. I love this format and prefer it Best Ball drafts. I wish DK or some other platform offered something like this.

 

[Norseman]

Question about QB pricing, JJ McCarthy is the ninth most expensive QB in the contest, but the Footballguys experts rank him as about the 20th best QB in their rankings with the highest anyone has him is 13. Explain the reasoning to me please

 

[a_troll00]

Question about QB pricing, JJ McCarthy is the ninth most expensive QB in the contest, but the Footballguys experts rank him as about the 20th best QB in their rankings with the highest anyone has him is 13. Explain the reasoning to me please

You just have to assess if some players are worth the price. Some are clearly not.

The high price for McCarthy is he's not on a rebuilding team. He has a great receiving core, a really good coach and a pretty good offensive line. How good is he really?

That's for you to decide.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

give me a RB with lower price and better projection than Kaleb Johnson. he's penciled in in my optimal lineup but I'm not thrilled.

 

[Scoresman]

Question about QB pricing, JJ McCarthy is the ninth most expensive QB in the contest, but the Footballguys experts rank him as about the 20th best QB in their rankings with the highest anyone has him is 13. Explain the reasoning to me please

I think some potential upside is built into that price.

 

[TheWinz]

Question about QB pricing, JJ McCarthy is the ninth most expensive QB in the contest, but the Footballguys experts rank him as about the 20th best QB in their rankings with the highest anyone has him is 13. Explain the reasoning to me please

Check this again...

 

[ZWK]

if there was such a thing as "conventional wisdom" over the years...there are of course big arguments on either side of the X.5 position totals...especially considering 12 qb guy and 14 te guy.

qb $30-35 2.5 qbs
rb $80-90 4.5 rbs
wr $75-85 5.5 wrs
te $35-$40 3.0 tes
pk $9-11 3.0 pks
td $8-10 2.5 tds

avg roster size 20.5

My good ol' spreadsheet includes the averages by year.

Though if you want to win, you should go with more players than average - for your roster as a whole, and for every position except maybe QB & RB.

 

[Norseman]

Question about QB pricing, JJ McCarthy is the ninth most expensive QB in the contest, but the Footballguys experts rank him as about the 20th best QB in their rankings with the highest anyone has him is 13. Explain the reasoning to me please

Check this again...

I was looking at the best ball rankings. If someone has him higher than 13 in other rankings I would love to see it

 

[bamabuddha]

Not gonna lie…I hate it.
Only 4 RBs? Only 2 TEs? You’re prancing us, right? Especially with the success rate stats for larger rosters

Actually it's about 3.25 RB's! And yes, I just like to create and post various rosters. I am usually on the smaller roster side, but this year I like alot of the cheaper WR's, so this year will be a larger roster. And I don't really like the RB prices, so will have to figure that out as I go. Hopefully we get a better feel on some of these teams like CLE and HOU.

Yeah, agree that WR, especially middle- of -the -pack guys offer some good value, better even then the TE’s who I sometimes lean to for flex fills

 

[bamabuddha]

QB - Jared Goff - DET/8 - $16
QB - Tua Tagovailoa - MIA/12 - $10
QB - Russell Wilson - NYG/14 - $9

Did you add Wilson mostly because you wanted Tua at his cost, but then felt you needed a 3rd QB because of his injury history?

Wilson is just bye/emergency cover should one of the 2 above him get injured. Yes I hate to sink $9 into a player that may not play, but for the reasons I already highlighted further up, I will always have a 3rd option there. Russ seemed the cheapest insurance cost that should mostly start this year. I may change the 3rd QB or even Tua depending on how things leading up to the deadline.

Same thoughts for me…

If tua were to stay healthy, he is a freaking steal at $10….
But then if you roster someone else as a third qb in case tua gets hurt it’s like just don’t pick tua….

But for his price versus potential upside, tua could be a big part of a winning team if he plays more than half a season.

 

[bamabuddha]

I like to post my first team and see how bad I end up deviating but the final entry.

On the first run - I don’t typically look at bye weeks, etc just pick guys that on initial look could be good value plays as I like to be in the 24-28 range for players.
So posting my first look, mainly for me to look back on when I get to final submittal. Just fun to see if 500 iterations changes a lot of players…or just a few.

First change will be more WR’s, less RBs and TE’s. Also, 2 QBs, both on same bye week have to change….lol…which I know but I do like both those guys in this format so one will end up with one of them on on my final team.


QB - Geno Smith - LV/8 - $11
QB - Sam Darnold - SEA/8 - $10
RB - Chuba Hubbard - CAR/14 - $20
RB - Jaylen Warren - PIT/5 - $17
RB - Tank Bigsby - JAX/8 - $12
RB - Jordan Mason - MIN/6 - $11
RB - Trey Benson - ARI/8 - $10
RB - Braelon Allen - NYJ/9 - $10
RB - Isaac Guerendo - SF/14 - $9
RB - Woody Marks - HOU/6 - $5
RB - Keaton Mitchell - BAL/7 - $4
WR - Jerry Jeudy - CLE/9 - $18
WR - Jakobi Meyers - LV/8 - $16
WR - Cooper Kupp - SEA/8 - $10
WR - Brandon Aiyuk - SF/14 - $6
WR - Roman Wilson - PIT/5 - $4
WR - Kyle Williams - NE/14 - $2
TE - T.J. Hockenson - MIN/6 - $18
TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/10 - $15
TE - Kyle Pitts Sr. - ATL/5 - $12
TE - Brenton Strange - JAX/8 - $12
PK - Blake Grupe - NO/11 - $3
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Matthew Wright - CAR/14 - $3
TD - Tennessee Titans - TEN/10 - $3
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3

Total value: 250, 27 players

 

[TheWinz]

I like to post my first team and see how bad I end up deviating but the final entry.

On the first run - I don’t typically look at bye weeks, etc just pick guys that on initial look could be good value plays as I like to be in the 24-28 range for players.
So posting my first look, mainly for me to look back on when I get to final submittal. Just fun to see if 500 iterations changes a lot of players…or just a few.

First change will be more WR’s, less RBs and TE’s. Also, 2 QBs, both on same bye week have to change….lol…which I know but I do like both those guys in this format so one will end up with one of them on on my final team.


QB - Geno Smith - LV/8 - $11
QB - Sam Darnold - SEA/8 - $10

Both your QB's share a bye Just kidding. Both QB's run about the same, so who do you think will throw for more yards and TD's on their new teams?

RB - Chuba Hubbard - CAR/14 - $20
RB - Jaylen Warren - PIT/5 - $17
RB - Tank Bigsby - JAX/8 - $12
RB - Jordan Mason - MIN/6 - $11
RB - Trey Benson - ARI/8 - $10
RB - Braelon Allen - NYJ/9 - $10
RB - Isaac Guerendo - SF/14 - $9
RB - Woody Marks - HOU/6 - $5
RB - Keaton Mitchell - BAL/7 - $4

While I like most of the players individually, you tended to choose more backups than starters. But you could have a gold mine with a few injuries.

WR - Jerry Jeudy - CLE/9 - $18
WR - Jakobi Meyers - LV/8 - $16
WR - Cooper Kupp - SEA/8 - $10
WR - Brandon Aiyuk - SF/14 - $6
WR - Roman Wilson - PIT/5 - $4
WR - Kyle Williams - NE/14 - $2

There were 15 options at WR for $2. What made you hone in on Kyle Williams? (see what I did there, hahaha)

TE - T.J. Hockenson - MIN/6 - $18
TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/10 - $15
TE - Kyle Pitts Sr. - ATL/5 - $12
TE - Brenton Strange - JAX/8 - $12

That's some decent firepower. You can only start 3 in a given week, so I think it's fine to have 3 for double-digit dollars, but after that, I prefer cheaper ones.

PK - Blake Grupe - NO/11 - $3
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Matthew Wright - CAR/14 - $3

These are the 3 I would choose if I shopped only in the bargain bin.

TD - Tennessee Titans - TEN/10 - $3
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3

Total value: 250, 27 players

How are their schedules at the end of the season?

 

[bamabuddha]

I like to post my first team and see how bad I end up deviating but the final entry.

On the first run - I don’t typically look at bye weeks, etc just pick guys that on initial look could be good value plays as I like to be in the 24-28 range for players.
So posting my first look, mainly for me to look back on when I get to final submittal. Just fun to see if 500 iterations changes a lot of players…or just a few.

First change will be more WR’s, less RBs and TE’s. Also, 2 QBs, both on same bye week have to change….lol…which I know but I do like both those guys in this format so one will end up with one of them on on my final team.


QB - Geno Smith - LV/8 - $11
QB - Sam Darnold - SEA/8 - $10

Both your QB's share a bye Just kidding. Both QB's run about the same, so who do you think will throw for more yards and TD's on their new teams?

RB - Chuba Hubbard - CAR/14 - $20
RB - Jaylen Warren - PIT/5 - $17
RB - Tank Bigsby - JAX/8 - $12
RB - Jordan Mason - MIN/6 - $11
RB - Trey Benson - ARI/8 - $10
RB - Braelon Allen - NYJ/9 - $10
RB - Isaac Guerendo - SF/14 - $9
RB - Woody Marks - HOU/6 - $5
RB - Keaton Mitchell - BAL/7 - $4

While I like most of the players individually, you tended to choose more backups than starters. But you could have a gold mine with a few injuries.

WR - Jerry Jeudy - CLE/9 - $18
WR - Jakobi Meyers - LV/8 - $16
WR - Cooper Kupp - SEA/8 - $10
WR - Brandon Aiyuk - SF/14 - $6
WR - Roman Wilson - PIT/5 - $4
WR - Kyle Williams - NE/14 - $2

There were 15 options at WR for $2. What made you hone in on Kyle Williams? (see what I did there, hahaha)

TE - T.J. Hockenson - MIN/6 - $18
TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/10 - $15
TE - Kyle Pitts Sr. - ATL/5 - $12
TE - Brenton Strange - JAX/8 - $12

That's some decent firepower. You can only start 3 in a given week, so I think it's fine to have 3 for double-digit dollars, but after that, I prefer cheaper ones.

PK - Blake Grupe - NO/11 - $3
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Matthew Wright - CAR/14 - $3

These are the 3 I would choose if I shopped only in the bargain bin.

TD - Tennessee Titans - TEN/10 - $3
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3

Total value: 250, 27 players

How are their schedules at the end of the season?

All good questions….
the qb’s actually went to more balanced attack teams. Grubb left Seattle so they definitely will not throw as much. I picked these two first….because they were the only two qb’s I carried last year and they got me to top 200 so I have a soft spot for them….but both are in worst locations due to more balanced offenses so now I don’t think I will use either one!!

I already picked different rbs as that was my first thought after posting…plus the best value group this year is definitely WR’s…so next rendition will be less rb’s and focus on a few that start…

Add lots more wr’s, including a few more $2 wr as there are 3 other $2 wr’s I am interested in. Like Williams because of SPEED…so he could get some decent playing time this year as patriot wrs will never be mistaken for an elite group,

Good point on TE’s and don’t think this group has as much value as years past…so,may drop back to 3 TE’s with one of them being cheap that may hit. Really like Fannin…unfortunately Njoku on same team who is no slouch… but Fannin could be a stud TE in a couple years.
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K’s actually thinking of just 2 $4 kickers and you save a buck over 3 $3 kickers

Final roster will probably be only two defense (no chance of injuries) and may do similar to kickers….two $4 defenses which earns me a $1 back.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

if there was such a thing as "conventional wisdom" over the years...there are of course big arguments on either side of the X.5 position totals...especially considering 12 qb guy and 14 te guy.

qb $30-35 2.5 qbs
rb $80-90 4.5 rbs
wr $75-85 5.5 wrs
te $35-$40 3.0 tes
pk $9-11 3.0 pks
td $8-10 2.5 tds

avg roster size 20.5

My good ol' spreadsheet includes the averages by year.

Though if you want to win, you should go with more players than average - for your roster as a whole, and for every position except maybe QB & RB.

I didn't anticipate the RB commment (QB comment aside). Care to elaborate? Concentrate on RB momentum stocks versus value stocks?

 

[JoeSteeler]

Tried a few different iterations. This is where I am right now. Not too happy with my RB.

QB - Caleb Williams - CHI/5 - $17
QB - C.J. Stroud - HOU/6 - $14
RB - Bucky Irving - TB/9 - $29
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/10 - $26
RB - Jordan Mason - MIN/6 - $11
RB - Tahj Brooks - CIN/10 - $4
RB - Keaton Mitchell - BAL/7 - $4
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/8 - $20
WR - Rome Odunze - CHI/5 - $15
WR - Ricky Pearsall - SF/14 - $11
WR - Emeka Egbuka - TB/9 - $10
WR - Marvin Mims Jr. - DEN/12 - $9
WR - Jayden Higgins - HOU/6 - $7
WR - Kyle Williams - NE/14 - $2
TE - George Kittle - SF/14 - $25
TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/10 - $15
TE - Jonnu Smith - PIT/5 - $10
PK - Jason Myers - SEA/8 - $4
PK - Jason Sanders - MIA/12 - $4
PK - Chris Boswell - PIT/5 - $4
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3
TD - Miami Dolphins - MIA/12 - $3

 

[Rubi]

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/10 - $20
QB - Drake Maye - NE/14 - $17
RB - Tony Pollard - TEN/10 - $19
RB - Brian Robinson Jr. - WAS/12 - $18
RB - Ray Davis - BUF/7 - $12
RB - Braelon Allen - NYJ/9 - $10
RB - Nick Chubb - HOU/6 - $8
RB - Miles Sanders - DAL/10 - $8
RB - Kyle Monangai - CHI/5 - $4
WR - Xavier Worthy - KC/10 - $25
WR - Stefon Diggs - NE/14 - $13
WR - Luther Burden III - CHI/5 - $10
WR - Calvin Austin III - PIT/5 - $8
WR - DeMario Douglas - NE/14 - $7
WR - Joshua Palmer - BUF/7 - $7
WR - Keenan Allen - LAC/12 - $5
WR - Pat Bryant - DEN/12 - $2
TE - Dallas Goedert - PHI/9 - $11
TE - Zach Ertz - WAS/12 - $9
TE - Pat Freiermuth - PIT/5 - $9
TE - Mason Taylor - NYJ/9 - $7
TE - Harold Fannin Jr. - CLE/9 - $4
PK - Blake Grupe - NO/11 - $3
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Matthew Wright - CAR/14 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/12 - $4
TD - New York Jets - NYJ/9 - $4

Labor of love putting this together. Hours of work which I'm sure will be amended a bunch of times before the final draft is submitted. I love this format and prefer it Best Ball drafts. I wish DK or some other platform offered something like this.

O.K. looks like a winner,I'll copy

 

[Rubi]

I like to post my first team and see how bad I end up deviating but the final entry.

On the first run - I don’t typically look at bye weeks, etc just pick guys that on initial look could be good value plays as I like to be in the 24-28 range for players.
So posting my first look, mainly for me to look back on when I get to final submittal. Just fun to see if 500 iterations changes a lot of players…or just a few.

First change will be more WR’s, less RBs and TE’s. Also, 2 QBs, both on same bye week have to change….lol…which I know but I do like both those guys in this format so one will end up with one of them on on my final team.


QB - Geno Smith - LV/8 - $11
QB - Sam Darnold - SEA/8 - $10
RB - Chuba Hubbard - CAR/14 - $20
RB - Jaylen Warren - PIT/5 - $17
RB - Tank Bigsby - JAX/8 - $12
RB - Jordan Mason - MIN/6 - $11
RB - Trey Benson - ARI/8 - $10
RB - Braelon Allen - NYJ/9 - $10
RB - Isaac Guerendo - SF/14 - $9
RB - Woody Marks - HOU/6 - $5
RB - Keaton Mitchell - BAL/7 - $4
WR - Jerry Jeudy - CLE/9 - $18
WR - Jakobi Meyers - LV/8 - $16
WR - Cooper Kupp - SEA/8 - $10
WR - Brandon Aiyuk - SF/14 - $6
WR - Roman Wilson - PIT/5 - $4
WR - Kyle Williams - NE/14 - $2
TE - T.J. Hockenson - MIN/6 - $18
TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/10 - $15
TE - Kyle Pitts Sr. - ATL/5 - $12
TE - Brenton Strange - JAX/8 - $12
PK - Blake Grupe - NO/11 - $3
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Matthew Wright - CAR/14 - $3
TD - Tennessee Titans - TEN/10 - $3
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3

Total value: 250, 27 players

O.K. looks like a winner,I'll copy

 

[Rubi]

Tried a few different iterations. This is where I am right now. Not too happy with my RB.

QB - Caleb Williams - CHI/5 - $17
QB - C.J. Stroud - HOU/6 - $14
RB - Bucky Irving - TB/9 - $29
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/10 - $26
RB - Jordan Mason - MIN/6 - $11
RB - Tahj Brooks - CIN/10 - $4
RB - Keaton Mitchell - BAL/7 - $4
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/8 - $20
WR - Rome Odunze - CHI/5 - $15
WR - Ricky Pearsall - SF/14 - $11
WR - Emeka Egbuka - TB/9 - $10
WR - Marvin Mims Jr. - DEN/12 - $9
WR - Jayden Higgins - HOU/6 - $7
WR - Kyle Williams - NE/14 - $2
TE - George Kittle - SF/14 - $25
TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/10 - $15
TE - Jonnu Smith - PIT/5 - $10
PK - Jason Myers - SEA/8 - $4
PK - Jason Sanders - MIA/12 - $4
PK - Chris Boswell - PIT/5 - $4
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3
TD - Miami Dolphins - MIA/12 - $3

O.K. looks like a winner, I'll copy

 

[Gatorade]

I think that people trying to scare true competitors off the high priced kickers are purposely being obtuse with long winded stories, so that teams that truly seek to win this championship realize that the best kickers do indeed cost a bit more, but that expense is well worth the cost.

If you ain't rostering Aubrey, you're playing for 2nd place!

Aubrey won't have as many FGs this year.
He will have to rely on EPs.
There will be a lot more TDs in Dallas.

 

[Instinctive]

I'm an addict. Still haven't looked at byes or positional balance though. I went through and ended up with a 33 player roster and had to cut some and consolidate.

QB - Justin Fields - NYJ/9 - $15
QB - Michael Penix Jr. - ATL/5 - $13
QB - Cam Ward - TEN/10 - $11

RB - RJ Harvey - DEN/12 - $19
RB - Roschon Johnson - CHI/5 - $12
RB - Dylan Sampson - CLE/9 - $10
RB - Blake Corum - LAR/8 - $8
RB - Miles Sanders - DAL/10 - $8
RB - Jacory Croskey-Merritt - WAS/12 - $6
RB - Woody Marks - HOU/6 - $5
RB - Tahj Brooks - CIN/10 - $4

WR - Jakobi Meyers - LV/8 - $16
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/10 - $16
WR - Jayden Reed - GB/5 - $12
WR - Emeka Egbuka - TB/9 - $10
WR - Joshua Palmer - BUF/7 - $7
WR - Jalen Nailor - MIN/6 - $4
WR - Roman Wilson - PIT/5 - $4
WR - Pat Bryant - DEN/12 - $2

TE - Trey McBride - ARI/8 - $30
TE - Dalton Kincaid - BUF/7 - $11
TE - Dalton Schultz - HOU/6 - $8

PK - Chris Boswell - PIT/5 - $4
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Joey Slye - TEN/10 - $3

TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3
TD - Jacksonville Jaguars - JAX/8 - $3

 

[joey]

I'm an addict. Still haven't looked at byes or positional balance though. I went through and ended up with a 33 player roster and had to cut some and consolidate.

QB - Justin Fields - NYJ/9 - $15
QB - Michael Penix Jr. - ATL/5 - $13
QB - Cam Ward - TEN/10 - $11

RB - RJ Harvey - DEN/12 - $19
RB - Roschon Johnson - CHI/5 - $12
RB - Dylan Sampson - CLE/9 - $10
RB - Blake Corum - LAR/8 - $8
RB - Miles Sanders - DAL/10 - $8
RB - Jacory Croskey-Merritt - WAS/12 - $6
RB - Woody Marks - HOU/6 - $5
RB - Tahj Brooks - CIN/10 - $4

WR - Jakobi Meyers - LV/8 - $16
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/10 - $16
WR - Jayden Reed - GB/5 - $12
WR - Emeka Egbuka - TB/9 - $10
WR - Joshua Palmer - BUF/7 - $7
WR - Jalen Nailor - MIN/6 - $4
WR - Roman Wilson - PIT/5 - $4
WR - Pat Bryant - DEN/12 - $2

TE - Trey McBride - ARI/8 - $30
TE - Dalton Kincaid - BUF/7 - $11
TE - Dalton Schultz - HOU/6 - $8

PK - Chris Boswell - PIT/5 - $4
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Joey Slye - TEN/10 - $3

TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3
TD - Jacksonville Jaguars - JAX/8 - $3

that QB grouping is super interesting.

 

[Instinctive]

I'm an addict. Still haven't looked at byes or positional balance though. I went through and ended up with a 33 player roster and had to cut some and consolidate.

QB - Justin Fields - NYJ/9 - $15
QB - Michael Penix Jr. - ATL/5 - $13
QB - Cam Ward - TEN/10 - $11

RB - RJ Harvey - DEN/12 - $19
RB - Roschon Johnson - CHI/5 - $12
RB - Dylan Sampson - CLE/9 - $10
RB - Blake Corum - LAR/8 - $8
RB - Miles Sanders - DAL/10 - $8
RB - Jacory Croskey-Merritt - WAS/12 - $6
RB - Woody Marks - HOU/6 - $5
RB - Tahj Brooks - CIN/10 - $4

WR - Jakobi Meyers - LV/8 - $16
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/10 - $16
WR - Jayden Reed - GB/5 - $12
WR - Emeka Egbuka - TB/9 - $10
WR - Joshua Palmer - BUF/7 - $7
WR - Jalen Nailor - MIN/6 - $4
WR - Roman Wilson - PIT/5 - $4
WR - Pat Bryant - DEN/12 - $2

TE - Trey McBride - ARI/8 - $30
TE - Dalton Kincaid - BUF/7 - $11
TE - Dalton Schultz - HOU/6 - $8

PK - Chris Boswell - PIT/5 - $4
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Joey Slye - TEN/10 - $3

TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3
TD - Jacksonville Jaguars - JAX/8 - $3

that QB grouping is super interesting.

I need to work some Atlanta receiving into this to stack better.

And I never remember the 2 vs 3 K/D scoring differential stats

 

[joey]

I'm an addict. Still haven't looked at byes or positional balance though. I went through and ended up with a 33 player roster and had to cut some and consolidate.

QB - Justin Fields - NYJ/9 - $15
QB - Michael Penix Jr. - ATL/5 - $13
QB - Cam Ward - TEN/10 - $11

RB - RJ Harvey - DEN/12 - $19
RB - Roschon Johnson - CHI/5 - $12
RB - Dylan Sampson - CLE/9 - $10
RB - Blake Corum - LAR/8 - $8
RB - Miles Sanders - DAL/10 - $8
RB - Jacory Croskey-Merritt - WAS/12 - $6
RB - Woody Marks - HOU/6 - $5
RB - Tahj Brooks - CIN/10 - $4

WR - Jakobi Meyers - LV/8 - $16
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/10 - $16
WR - Jayden Reed - GB/5 - $12
WR - Emeka Egbuka - TB/9 - $10
WR - Joshua Palmer - BUF/7 - $7
WR - Jalen Nailor - MIN/6 - $4
WR - Roman Wilson - PIT/5 - $4
WR - Pat Bryant - DEN/12 - $2

TE - Trey McBride - ARI/8 - $30
TE - Dalton Kincaid - BUF/7 - $11
TE - Dalton Schultz - HOU/6 - $8

PK - Chris Boswell - PIT/5 - $4
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Joey Slye - TEN/10 - $3

TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3
TD - Jacksonville Jaguars - JAX/8 - $3

that QB grouping is super interesting.

I need to work some Atlanta receiving into this to stack better.

And I never remember the 2 vs 3 K/D scoring differential stats

I think you want 3 Ks (since they can get hurt or cut) but you can have just 2 Ds (since the whole defense can’t get hurt).

That’s what I’ve been doing at least and it’s served me amazingly well over the years!
#outWeek7EveryYear

 

[Rubi]

I'm an addict. Still haven't looked at byes or positional balance though. I went through and ended up with a 33 player roster and had to cut some and consolidate.

QB - Justin Fields - NYJ/9 - $15
QB - Michael Penix Jr. - ATL/5 - $13
QB - Cam Ward - TEN/10 - $11

RB - RJ Harvey - DEN/12 - $19
RB - Roschon Johnson - CHI/5 - $12
RB - Dylan Sampson - CLE/9 - $10
RB - Blake Corum - LAR/8 - $8
RB - Miles Sanders - DAL/10 - $8
RB - Jacory Croskey-Merritt - WAS/12 - $6
RB - Woody Marks - HOU/6 - $5
RB - Tahj Brooks - CIN/10 - $4

WR - Jakobi Meyers - LV/8 - $16
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/10 - $16
WR - Jayden Reed - GB/5 - $12
WR - Emeka Egbuka - TB/9 - $10
WR - Joshua Palmer - BUF/7 - $7
WR - Jalen Nailor - MIN/6 - $4
WR - Roman Wilson - PIT/5 - $4
WR - Pat Bryant - DEN/12 - $2

TE - Trey McBride - ARI/8 - $30
TE - Dalton Kincaid - BUF/7 - $11
TE - Dalton Schultz - HOU/6 - $8

PK - Chris Boswell - PIT/5 - $4
PK - Cairo Santos - CHI/5 - $3
PK - Joey Slye - TEN/10 - $3

TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/8 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/5 - $3
TD - Jacksonville Jaguars - JAX/8 - $3

Looks like a winner,I'll copy it

 

[TheWinz]

Looks like a winner,I'll copy it

Post yours, so we can copy it

 

[ZWK]

if there was such a thing as "conventional wisdom" over the years...there are of course big arguments on either side of the X.5 position totals...especially considering 12 qb guy and 14 te guy.

qb $30-35 2.5 qbs
rb $80-90 4.5 rbs
wr $75-85 5.5 wrs
te $35-$40 3.0 tes
pk $9-11 3.0 pks
td $8-10 2.5 tds

avg roster size 20.5

My good ol' spreadsheet includes the averages by year.

Though if you want to win, you should go with more players than average - for your roster as a whole, and for every position except maybe QB & RB.

I didn't anticipate the RB commment (QB comment aside). Care to elaborate? Concentrate on RB momentum stocks versus value stocks?

RBs usually cost more than WRs or TEs who get similar production, so you should aim to fill your flex spots with WRs or TEs and try to take as few RBs as you can get away with.

That might be fewer RBs if you're getting good ones (I think of 5 RBs for $60-$75 as standard; 4 RBs can be viable if they're all good ones) or more if you're collecting cheapish handcuff/committee types. Last year I actually went with 8 RBs, while spending the least $ at RB that I ever have.

So it's not that you shouldn't ever go for more RBs, it's that at WR/TE/PK/TD/total you should never go below the number of players that you've listed (or the averages in my spreadsheet). At QB & RB it can be fine to be below those numbers, though it can also be fine to go higher (especially if you can find a good combo of cheaper guys).

 

[WoodedHills]

Looks like a winner,I'll copy it

Post yours, so we can copy it

If you remember your transitive property from school, you're already there!

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

if there was such a thing as "conventional wisdom" over the years...there are of course big arguments on either side of the X.5 position totals...especially considering 12 qb guy and 14 te guy.

qb $30-35 2.5 qbs
rb $80-90 4.5 rbs
wr $75-85 5.5 wrs
te $35-$40 3.0 tes
pk $9-11 3.0 pks
td $8-10 2.5 tds

avg roster size 20.5

My good ol' spreadsheet includes the averages by year.

Though if you want to win, you should go with more players than average - for your roster as a whole, and for every position except maybe QB & RB.

I didn't anticipate the RB commment (QB comment aside). Care to elaborate? Concentrate on RB momentum stocks versus value stocks?

RBs usually cost more than WRs or TEs who get similar production, so you should aim to fill your flex spots with WRs or TEs and try to take as few RBs as you can get away with.

That might be fewer RBs if you're getting good ones (I think of 5 RBs for $60-$75 as standard; 4 RBs can be viable if they're all good ones) or more if you're collecting cheapish handcuff/committee types. Last year I actually went with 8 RBs, while spending the least $ at RB that I ever have.

So it's not that you shouldn't ever go for more RBs, it's that at WR/TE/PK/TD/total you should never go below the number of players that you've listed (or the averages in my spreadsheet). At QB & RB it can be fine to be below those numbers, though it can also be fine to go higher (especially if you can find a good combo of cheaper guys).

On the one hand, I did reconfigure my roster in consideration of your comments (thanks!)...on the other hand I have a larger investment in RB ($94 !!) and less in WR ($72) based on perceived value in each pool.

3 qb / 5 rb / 6 wr / 3 te / 3pk / 2 td

Unless things change I'm just waiting for a couple of qb battles to resolve my QB3 selection.

 

[WoodedHills]

on the other hand I have a larger investment in RB ($94 !!)

Outrageous! I only have $93 in RB, like a sane person.

 

[joey]

Currently at 2QB/5RB/8WR/4TE/3K/2D

Feeling like a comfy old recliner in your grandparent’s house.

But looking at 3QB/3TE combos instead now. Who liked that crappy old chair anyway!?!

 

[a_troll00]

Currently at 2QB/5RB/8WR/4TE/3K/2D

Feeling like a comfy old recliner in your grandparent’s house.

But looking at 3QB/3TE combos instead now. Who liked that crappy old chair anyway!?!

As far as QBs go, I'm looking for 20+ pts per week from my QBs, bare minimum. Ideally, this should be 30+ pts per week.

I could probably go with 3 QBs, but could very well be 3 QBs getting me 15-20 pts per week. Why bother?

 

[joey]

Currently at 2QB/5RB/8WR/4TE/3K/2D

Feeling like a comfy old recliner in your grandparent’s house.

But looking at 3QB/3TE combos instead now. Who liked that crappy old chair anyway!?!

As far as QBs go, I'm looking for 20+ pts per week from my QBs, bare minimum. Ideally, this should be 30+ pts per week.

I could probably go with 3 QBs, but could very well be 3 QBs getting me 15-20 pts per week. Why bother?

After 20 minutes, I’m back at 2 “better” QBs and reduced to 7 WRs

 

[BassNBrew]

Question about QB pricing, JJ McCarthy is the ninth most expensive QB in the contest, but the Footballguys experts rank him as about the 20th best QB in their rankings with the highest anyone has him is 13. Explain the reasoning to me please

Question about QB pricing, JJ McCarthy is the ninth most expensive QB in the contest, but the Footballguys experts rank him as about the 20th best QB in their rankings with the highest anyone has him is 13. Explain the reasoning to me please

Check this again...

I was looking at the best ball rankings. If someone has him higher than 13 in other rankings I would love to see it

Henry who is the big dog around here has him at 11 when you adjust for this scoring. They weight byes in the pricing so his early bye bumps him up over Prescott and Mahomes.

 

[da_budman]

has anyone heard if there will be a subsriber contest this year? I know they mentioned low participation last year. and no comments on a date for start of event this year. I lvoe thsi game, i hope it doesnt go away

I'd play this contest even if there weren't any prizes. It's probably my favorite fantasy contest each season.

I hit the money in Joe's side pot 2 years ago and just rolled the money into the winner's food bank donation. So, I agree, and if you don't need it might as well help some folks out. This is just for fun. I guess if I landed in the big money I'd keep some but I'd do some good with plenty of it also.

I did the same thing last year

 

[TheWinz]

has anyone heard if there will be a subsriber contest this year? I know they mentioned low participation last year. and no comments on a date for start of event this year. I lvoe thsi game, i hope it doesnt go away

I'd play this contest even if there weren't any prizes. It's probably my favorite fantasy contest each season.

I hit the money in Joe's side pot 2 years ago and just rolled the money into the winner's food bank donation. So, I agree, and if you don't need it might as well help some folks out. This is just for fun. I guess if I landed in the big money I'd keep some but I'd do some good with plenty of it also.

I did the same thing last year

You shoulda used the winnings on da bud, man!

 

[mphtrilogy]

I keep staring at Hopkins and KAllen value seems like a freebie once the season starts these two cagey vets at a dirt cheap price