D.Rhodes released --bush looking slow (1 Viewer)

[BustedKnuckles]

I believe L.Jordan will be released in june and this was written today about Bush....

Michael Bush-RB- Raiders Apr. 28 - 3:19 pm et

One sideline observer of the Raiders' closed practice sessions last year reportedly thought that Michael Bush "looked slow."

Bush wasn't a burner in the first place and was still recovering from a broken leg at the time. He's healthy now, but buried behind Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden, and possibly Dominic Rhodes and LaMont Jordan. It's time to consider dropping the former Louisville star in shallow dynasty leagues.

Source: Oakland Tribune

Dominic Rhodes-RB- Raiders Apr. 28 - 4:36 pm et

The Sacramento Bee reports that the Raiders will release RB Dominic Rhodes.

Al Davis can't bring himself to show LaMont Jordan the door, even though he costs $3 million more. Rhodes didn't play poorly when given a chance down the stretch in 2007 and took a $1.25 million pay cut in March. Still, this doesn't mean Jordan won't be a goner later on. Michael Bush is also safe for now.

Source: Sacramento Bee

 

[vinwinephans]

So Bush looked slow LAST YEAR while he was on PUP? Really?

And he could be behind 2 additional people besides Fargas and McFadden when another paper on the same day will be cut before training camp opens?

In my opinion Rhodes and Jordan are gone.

The other three wil vie for the positions... does OAK have a solidfied FB? If not, I could see Fargas going to FB, with McFadden being the workhorse and Bush being the ShortYardage/Goalline guy.

It will be interesting, that's for sure.

 

[switz]

So Bush looked slow LAST YEAR while he was on PUP? Really?

And he could be behind 2 additional people besides Fargas and McFadden when another paper on the same day will be cut before training camp opens?

In my opinion Rhodes and Jordan are gone.

The other three wil vie for the positions... does OAK have a solidfied FB? If not, I could see Fargas going to FB, with McFadden being the workhorse and Bush being the ShortYardage/Goalline guy.

It will be interesting, that's for sure.

Have you seen Fargas?

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

When it comes to Al Davis anything can happen. Shawn Alexander signed next? lol

 

[3C's]

So Bush looked slow LAST YEAR while he was on PUP? Really?

And he could be behind 2 additional people besides Fargas and McFadden when another paper on the same day will be cut before training camp opens?

In my opinion Rhodes and Jordan are gone.

The other three wil vie for the positions... does OAK have a solidfied FB? If not, I could see Fargas going to FB, with McFadden being the workhorse and Bush being the ShortYardage/Goalline guy.

It will be interesting, that's for sure.

Have you seen Fargas?

Fargas isn't small. In fact he's somewhere around 220. But he's no FB. Jordan? Maybe.

 

[Warhogs]

Fargas a FB? I assume that is an uninformed opinion.

I would imagine that McFadden gets the bulk of the work and Fargas spells him. Jordan and Rhodes could both very well be cuts at some point.

I am not a Bush owner but I think he now becomes a long shot to make an impact in Oakland as he is buried a bit deeper on the depth chart. I'm not trying to bash Bush but I feel that is a realistic evaluation at this time. Hopefully Bush owners have a minimal investment in him.

 

[LawFitz]

The Raiders have two very good fullbacks in Justin Griffith and Oren Oneal.

Fargas will start and DMC will get a lot of looks in a Reggie Bush type role. Expect 10-12 carries and 4-6 catches per game for DMC and an additional 15+ carries for Fargas/Bush.

Expect to see DMC all over the field, including the slot, split wide and even taking direct snaps.

 

[switz]

The Raiders have two very good fullbacks in Justin Griffith and Oren Oneal.Fargas will start and DMC will get a lot of looks in a Reggie Bush type role. Expect 10-12 carries and 4-6 catches per game for DMC and an additional 15+ carries for Fargas/Bush.Expect to see DMC all over the field, including the slot, split wide and even taking direct snaps.

I'll also add, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bush used around the goal line.

 

[FF_Guru]

So Bush looked slow LAST YEAR while he was on PUP? Really?

And he could be behind 2 additional people besides Fargas and McFadden when another paper on the same day will be cut before training camp opens?

In my opinion Rhodes and Jordan are gone.

The other three wil vie for the positions... does OAK have a solidfied FB? If not, I could see Fargas going to FB, with McFadden being the workhorse and Bush being the ShortYardage/Goalline guy.

It will be interesting, that's for sure.

Have you seen Fargas?

Fargas isn't small. In fact he's somewhere around 220. But he's no FB. Jordan? Maybe.

Not with the back problems that Jordan has...he wouldn't make it through the 1st quarter lead blocking and taking out DL and LB's.

 

[UnknownCoach]

Isnt Jordan expected to released June 1 in order to spread out the salary cap hit? That's why Rhodes went first. They cant afford McFadden and Fargas and Jordan. Too much salary to be spending on RBs. I thought Rhodes had a slight chance to stick around but I was expecting both to be cut.

Bush is slower than the other guys. We already knew. Fargas is all about speed and Jordan is faster than you'd think. Bush will look even slower once McFadden joins him. If Bush flops we could see Jordan stick I guess. I really doubt it though after the contracts they gave Fargas and will have to give McFadden.

 

[Swing 51]

Sportscenter just reported Rhodes has been released.

 

[One]

Expect 10-12 carries

at least.

 

[LawFitz]

Expect 10-12 carries

at least.

I think they'll ease him in year 1. Fargas is one tough SOB and he was a favorite of Kiffin's last year. Plus he knows the offense. DMC has to prove that he can get the hard yards before he gets the bulk of the carries.But like I said, that doesn't mean you won't see big doses of DMC in other facets of the game beyond running up the gut.

 

[UnknownCoach]

Fargas is the most fragile RB on the team. He doesnt get the tough yards. He gets his yards in big bursts. He was the fastest RB of his draft class but went in the third round due to a big lack of rounded football skills. He was a project when drafted. He did his time on the bench and fit the newest system because this system is seriously built for a speed back. Its amazing how many people have the wrong opinion of Fargas. Did people even know who he was before last season?

 

[B Maverick]

ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP)—The Oakland Raiders released running back Dominic Rhodes on Monday, two days after using their top draft pick to take big-play back Darren McFadden.

Oakland had a glut at running back after the draft and began addressing it almost immediately by announcing the team cut ties with Rhodes. The Raiders still have two backs with 1,000-yard seasons on their roster in Justin Fargas and LaMont Jordan, as well as last year’s fourth-round pick Michael Bush.

Rhodes signed a two-year contract with the Raiders last offseason after helping Indianapolis win the Super Bowl. He restructured his contract earlier this offseason and was expected to share the rushing load with Fargas before McFadden was drafted.

Rhodes was suspended for the first four games last season for violating the league’s substance abuse policy. He played sparingly until Fargas went down with a knee injury late in the year. Rhodes ran for 237 yards the last two games of the season. He finished with 302 yards rushing in 10 games last season.

His best year came as a rookie with the Colts, when he ran for 1,104 yards in 2001. Rhodes shared the rushing load with rookie Joseph Addai in 2006, and ran for 113 yards and a touchdown that helped the Colts beat the Bears 29-17 in the Super Bowl.

Fargas and McFadden are expected to be the main backs in Oakland next season, with Jordan likely to be the next running back cut loose.

Fargas ran for 1,009 yards in 2007 despite starting only seven games. He signed a $12 million, three-year contract that guarantees him $6 million.

McFadden, the fourth pick in the draft Saturday, was the top-rated running back after rushing for 4,590 yards and 41 touchdowns in three seasons at Arkansas.

 

[switz]

Fargas is the most fragile RB on the team. He doesnt get the tough yards. He gets his yards in big bursts. He was the fastest RB of his draft class but went in the third round due to a big lack of rounded football skills. He was a project when drafted. He did his time on the bench and fit the newest system because this system is seriously built for a speed back. Its amazing how many people have the wrong opinion of Fargas. Did people even know who he was before last season?

I drafted him as a rookie

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Will Rhodes go back to Indy?

 

[switz]

Will Rhodes go back to Indy?

Doubt it, they rarely resign older players they've previously let go. Indy is a youth-focused team, Rhodes is at the end of his career.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

McFadden's competition has nothing to do with whether he's a wise pick.

 

[UnknownCoach]

Fargas is the most fragile RB on the team. He doesnt get the tough yards. He gets his yards in big bursts. He was the fastest RB of his draft class but went in the third round due to a big lack of rounded football skills. He was a project when drafted. He did his time on the bench and fit the newest system because this system is seriously built for a speed back. Its amazing how many people have the wrong opinion of Fargas. Did people even know who he was before last season?

I drafted him as a rookie

Yeah, lots of hype after he ran a 4.3 40. Found a small quote about him after he was drafted. Being compared to Charlie Garner of all backs. I dont like that comparison at all (he isnt a good route runner and hands are questionable plus Garner was noteably smaller) but he was definately drafted based on his speed"Oakland's other draftees - RB Justin Fargas, WR Doug Gabriel, WR Ryan Hoag, OT Dustin Rykert and SS Siddeeq Shabazz - should not see much playing time other than on special teams unless there are injuries. Fargas is an interesting option for the team, as he's in the mold of RB Charlie Garner, the team's current starting tailback. Being a third-round selection, he's virtually a lock to make the final roster and his 4.3 speed won't hurt matters either for a team looking to become quicker across the board. With good hands and quickness on the corner, he could see the team trying to work him in on some plays during the year but his primary focus to start the season will be on special teams."

http://www.kffl.com/article.php/1646

Please stop the talk about how good of an inside runner Fargas is. He's a little slower and bigger now than as a rookie but dont confuse him as a workhorse. I dont think he's ever made it through a season healthy in college or the NFL.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

So Bush looked slow LAST YEAR while he was on PUP? Really?And he could be behind 2 additional people besides Fargas and McFadden when another paper on the same day will be cut before training camp opens?In my opinion Rhodes and Jordan are gone.The other three wil vie for the positions... does OAK have a solidfied FB? If not, I could see Fargas going to FB, with McFadden being the workhorse and Bush being the ShortYardage/Goalline guy.It will be interesting, that's for sure.

Bush's role... This morning I was listening to ESPN radio and the writer for Contra Costa Times was on there talking about the Oakland Raiders. He had what he deemed "insider speculation" that Michael Bush would be used as a red zone/ short yardage back and Fargas/McFadden would be a potent 1-2 punch rotated on a consistent basis. No more long spells of any one RB at a time. This makes perfect sense to me and a great way to bring in a brusier like M.Bush and help him warm up and get acclimated to the league..

 

[Englishteacher]

Fargas is the most fragile RB on the team. He doesnt get the tough yards. He gets his yards in big bursts. He was the fastest RB of his draft class but went in the third round due to a big lack of rounded football skills. He was a project when drafted. He did his time on the bench and fit the newest system because this system is seriously built for a speed back. Its amazing how many people have the wrong opinion of Fargas. Did people even know who he was before last season?

Fargas had an even worse injury history in college than did Bush. Him being taken in the third round was a reach because he wasn't expected to go that high bc of the injuries and lack of overall production. He is fast and ran a great 40 time which led Davis to nab him. Classic Al Davis pick. It was all about speed. I'm actually surprised Fargas regained enough health to EVER do anything in the NFL.EDIT TO ADD:Just opened up my 2003 PFW draft book. This is from Fargas' biouring his Freshman season in the tenth game of the year, "Broke his right leg (tibia and fibula). ...His knee did not heal well, and he had to have three surgeries because of it. The first surgery required the insertion of 12 screws and two titanium rods. After four months, the knee still was not healing properly, so his leg was rebroken, and two metal plates were inserted. The third surgery was done to fix tendons in his big toe that were damaged as a result of the breaks. Saw action as a RB and safety at Michigan in 2000 after sitting out the 1999 season to rehab. Came to USC in '01 but had to sit out as a transfer. Underwent a fourth surgery at USC in '01 to straighten his big right toe (a residual effect from broken legs). Had a good spring in '02 at RB, including two outstanding scrimmages. However, strained his right hamstring and missed the opener vs. Auburn."

 

[One]

So Bush looked slow LAST YEAR while he was on PUP? Really?And he could be behind 2 additional people besides Fargas and McFadden when another paper on the same day will be cut before training camp opens?In my opinion Rhodes and Jordan are gone.The other three wil vie for the positions... does OAK have a solidfied FB? If not, I could see Fargas going to FB, with McFadden being the workhorse and Bush being the ShortYardage/Goalline guy.It will be interesting, that's for sure.

Bush's role... This morning I was listening to ESPN radio and the writer for Contra Costa Times was on there talking about the Oakland Raiders. He had what he deemed "insider speculation" that Michael Bush would be used as a red zone/ short yardage back and Fargas/McFadden would be a potent 1-2 punch rotated on a consistent basis. No more long spells of any one RB at a time. This makes perfect sense to me and a great way to bring in a brusier like M.Bush and help him warm up and get acclimated to the league..

I like it. I remember Bush being a maniac inside the 10 at Louisville. May not help McFadden/Fargas fantasy-wise, but it's wise of the team.

 

[FUBAR]

So Bush looked slow LAST YEAR while he was on PUP? Really?

And he could be behind 2 additional people besides Fargas and McFadden when another paper on the same day will be cut before training camp opens?

In my opinion Rhodes and Jordan are gone.

The other three wil vie for the positions... does OAK have a solidfied FB? If not, I could see Fargas going to FB, with McFadden being the workhorse and Bush being the ShortYardage/Goalline guy.

It will be interesting, that's for sure.

Bush's role... This morning I was listening to ESPN radio and the writer for Contra Costa Times was on there talking about the Oakland Raiders. He had what he deemed "insider speculation" that Michael Bush would be used as a red zone/ short yardage back and Fargas/McFadden would be a potent 1-2 punch rotated on a consistent basis. No more long spells of any one RB at a time. This makes perfect sense to me and a great way to bring in a brusier like M.Bush and help him warm up and get acclimated to the league..

I like it. I remember Bush being a maniac inside the 10 at Louisville. May not help McFadden/Fargas fantasy-wise, but it's wise of the team.

You're right and it's good to see someone recognize this before the season, when all the McFadden owners will be screaming as Bush is put in for the "easy" score.

 

[UnknownCoach]

I've stated I think Bush can be our big change of pace/short yardage back. Jordan gets cut so its either Bush or one of the fullbacks for short yardage. 4th quarter carries are up for grabs as well.

I expect something like 60 percent McFadden, 30 percent Fargas, 10 percent Bush including receptions but without factoring in injuries. I think we'll see two of the three on the field at the same time in some sets. McFadden will be sent wide at times.

Fantasy factor for McFadden - Dont expect the consistency of your favorite FF RBs but expect some big games in his rookie year. How quickly he picks up the passing game and Russell's performance are very important X factors.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Will Rhodes go back to Indy?

Doubt it, they rarely resign older players they've previously let go. Indy is a youth-focused team, Rhodes is at the end of his career.

also has a drug suspension in his past

 

[UnknownCoach]

Will Rhodes go back to Indy?

Doubt it, they rarely resign older players they've previously let go. Indy is a youth-focused team, Rhodes is at the end of his career.

also has a drug suspension in his past

I think money is the factor not his age. They couldnt afford to keep him when they let him go. If Rhodes is willing to sign cheaply, it would be a good opportunity for Indy. He knows their system and is obviously a capable backup. I think he signs for money however.

 

[az_prof]

So Bush looked slow LAST YEAR while he was on PUP? Really?And he could be behind 2 additional people besides Fargas and McFadden when another paper on the same day will be cut before training camp opens?In my opinion Rhodes and Jordan are gone.The other three wil vie for the positions... does OAK have a solidfied FB? If not, I could see Fargas going to FB, with McFadden being the workhorse and Bush being the ShortYardage/Goalline guy.It will be interesting, that's for sure.

Bush's role... This morning I was listening to ESPN radio and the writer for Contra Costa Times was on there talking about the Oakland Raiders. He had what he deemed "insider speculation" that Michael Bush would be used as a red zone/ short yardage back and Fargas/McFadden would be a potent 1-2 punch rotated on a consistent basis. No more long spells of any one RB at a time. This makes perfect sense to me and a great way to bring in a brusier like M.Bush and help him warm up and get acclimated to the league..

TD Vulture? I love it. I wouldn't release Bush too soon. And let's not forget that DMac is built like a twig and Fargas gets hurt getting out of the car.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I need to see Bush on the field before I call him the TD Vulture... ame can go for DMac, but we know he will get his chances. I say 60% Mac / 30% Fargus (I think Fargus will get more TDs and 3rds) 10% everyone else.

 

[KellysHeroes]

anyone got a link to that video of Bush's workout before the draft... as I recalled, he looked terrible in it.

 

[Sack-Religious]

anyone got a link to that video of Bush's workout before the draft... as I recalled, he looked terrible in it.

I would expect he would as he was still recovering from that broken leg.A better indicator of what he's truly capable of would be in the OTA's and TC this season. If he looks horrible then, the picture of the OAK backfield becomes more clear.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

LaMont Jordan-RB- Raiders Apr. 29 - 11:56 am et

Retired DT Warren Sapp says that LaMont Jordan "is like the worst offseason running back I've ever been around."

"After three games last season, LaMont Jordan led the NFL in rushing," Sapp said. "But...he was out of shape and couldn’t keep it going." Sapp thinks the Darren McFadden-Justin Fargas tandem will be a huge upgrade for Oakland.