Dallas punches New England in the mouth (2 Viewers)

[SeniorVBDStudent]

New England Vs. Dallas...The Cowboys played well last night vs. the Bears but to beat the Patriots they'll even have to play better. They had 11 penalties for nearly 100 yards, that is just way too many mistakes to make against a team as good as NE. My prediction will come the week of the game as I evaluate the two teams during the next two weeks.

Of the categories listed, the one big disparity is defense, which is a comparison between league-leading and 50-75% quartile. I wouldn't be shocked if Dallas won, but I would be surprised to see it without +2 turnover ratio.I like what Wade is cooking in big D, but he needs some time to cleanup the secondary, Jerry needs to give Romo the money and we'll have to wait and see if TO can wait for it all to come together. I get the feeling that he can, but maybe that's rose-colored glasses from seeing Moss turn over a new leaf.NE 24DAL 20Take the under (because of the intangibles) and Dallas with the points.

 

[Mustang Man]

I expect Dallas to have no answer for Moss... I am a cowboys fan.

Agreed...Randy Moss will run through the Dallas secondary like it wasn't there...if you think Plax had a field day.

If Terrance Newman stays healthy it won't be nearly as easy and also if they can get Greg Ellis back on the other side of D.Ware before that game .

 

[Mustang Man]

New England O = Dallas ONew England D >>>>>> Dallas DNew England ST >>>>>> Dallas ST35-24 New England

WOW apparently you did not see what Dallas just did to Devin Hester. They have one of the best Punters in the league and their rookie kicker Folk has not missed yet. That Dallas defense will only get better as the year goes on. That siad NE is the better team but do not under estimate the Cowboys, ask the Colts last year when they came into to town. Dallas will give whoever they play all they can handle.

 

[King Biggie Cube]

Big Daddy Kane <> King Biggie Cube.

yo i dont know what dat diamond mean but i will be bling blingin watchin dem pats lay da smack down fo sho.brady to moss all day.....ya hear!kbc<>

 

[Big Daddy Kane]

Big Daddy Kane <> King Biggie Cube.

yo i dont know what dat diamond mean but i will be bling blingin watchin dem pats lay da smack down fo sho.brady to moss all day.....ya hear!kbc<>

Better respect, my pimp hand is strong and fierce. I'll drop the mic like Demarcus Ware will drop Golden Boy Brady. Long Live the Kane. <>

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

NE D-Line = Dallas D-LineNE Linebackers = Dallas Linebackers

Ware is excellent. Outside of that, you've got jack.

 

[Mustang Man]

This will be a SuperBowl preview IMHO.

I laughed, but you probably got reported, just so you know.

All I can say is I would rather be in Dallas's position then NE's to get to the Super Bowl. Dallas has the likes of Chicago, NO, SEA, GB,PHILLY. While NE as great as they are have INDY, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, SD, HOUSTON. Allot tougher of a road.

 

[Mustang Man]

Tony Romo? Pffft. They'll be calling him Tony Nomo after Thomas, Colvin and Seymour beat him into Mexico. Good luck.

This is awesome.

By the way the NE defense does not scare Dallas what so ever it is Tom Brady and Tom Brady only. Believe that.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

New England Vs. Dallas...The Cowboys played well last night vs. the Bears but to beat the Patriots they'll even have to play better. They had 11 penalties for nearly 100 yards, that is just way too many mistakes to make against a team as good as NE. My prediction will come the week of the game as I evaluate the two teams during the next two weeks.

Of the categories listed, the one big disparity is defense, which is a comparison between league-leading and 50-75% quartile. I wouldn't be shocked if Dallas won, but I would be surprised to see it without +2 turnover ratio.I like what Wade is cooking in big D, but he needs some time to cleanup the secondary, Jerry needs to give Romo the money and we'll have to wait and see if TO can wait for it all to come together. I get the feeling that he can, but maybe that's rose-colored glasses from seeing Moss turn over a new leaf.NE 24DAL 20Take the under (because of the intangibles) and Dallas with the points.

Well, you're right they need some defensive help but it can just be a guy or two and that makes a world of difference. The additions that NE made to what was a very good team last year has now propelled them into the favorite to win the SB. Ellis hopefully will make the difference opposite of Ware. I really have liked the play out of Spencer. I am surprised he's not getting more praise. He must be making some mistakes I'm not seeing because when I see Dallas making some big plays, he's in on many of them.

 

[King Biggie Cube]

Big Daddy Kane <> King Biggie Cube.

yo i dont know what dat diamond mean but i will be bling blingin watchin dem pats lay da smack down fo sho.brady to moss all day.....ya hear!

kbc<>

Better respect, my pimp hand is strong and fierce. I'll drop the mic like Demarcus Ware will drop Golden Boy Brady. Long Live the Kane. <>

yo adalius is mad crazy. he is gonna light yall up somethin fierce.dont hate on mah pats. they will prevail fo sho

kbc <>

 

[Mustang Man]

too much talk about Moss and T.O. here.this will be about the O-lines and D-lines of each team and that's why NE will have an advantage.Sure everyone knows that the NE D line (even without Seymour) is impressive, but so far, their O-line has been dominant in both pass and run blocking.DAL is a nice team right now. Their fans should be excited about 'em, they could easily take the NFC. But 3 weeks of NFC success just isn't that impressive.I stated in the other thread, as a Pats fan, I'm still more concerned with an IND, SD (yes, SD), or DEN than I am with DAL.

I agree with you being more worried about the Colts Sd but I think you should add Pitt and Baltimore. On the other hand Dallas does not have to worry about any of them teams

 

[Chaos Commish]

The Bengals will shock the Pats a week from tonight in an offensive shootout, so the Cowboy game won't be so interesting.

 

[TD Ryan]

Brady > RomoMaroney/Morris < Jones/BarberMoss < TOWelker < GlennWatson < WittenNE D-Line = Dallas D-LineNE Linebackers = Dallas LinebackersNE Secondary > Dallas SecondaryDallas Home FieldThis is not near a sure thing for NE as most would think. Dallas punches them in da mouf.

clearly you are an Eagles fan just trying to make the Dallas fanbase look as bad as possible

 

[Mustang Man]

The Bengals will shock the Pats a week from tonight in an offensive shootout, so the Cowboy game won't be so interesting.

UM it will still be interesting and the game with the biggest hype to that point in the season.

 

[TD Ryan]

The Bengals will shock the Pats a week from tonight in an offensive shootout, so the Cowboy game won't be so interesting.

they may... but NE absolutely destroyed CIN, in CIN last year (38-13) and the NE secondary was completely decimated at the time.I fully expected NE to lose that game on the road last year.I'm not sure what's changed to make this sway in CIN's favor on this one.still, I expect a fun game next monday night.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

NOPE. Miami does it in week 7. If by chance, the Pats are 15-0, Miami is guaranteed will spoil the fun in week 16. Mark it down.

FYI, the Pats would only be 14-0 in Week 16. They finish the season against the Giants.But good luck to you trying to win in Foxboro in late December.

 

[Bonginator]

What's funny about this is that Dallas fans think that Patriots fans are looking forward to this game like it's a collision course of the two best teams in football. The game that all Patriots fans are looking forward to is the Week 9 tilt with the Colts. No other regular season games are circled at this point.

That Jets at Foxboro in December is circled on mine

 

[zoonation]

too much talk about Moss and T.O. here.

this will be about the O-lines and D-lines of each team and that's why NE will have an advantage.

Sure everyone knows that the NE D line (even without Seymour) is impressive, but so far, their O-line has been dominant in both pass and run blocking.

DAL is a nice team right now. Their fans should be excited about 'em, they could easily take the NFC. But 3 weeks of NFC success just isn't that impressive.

I stated in the other thread, as a Pats fan, I'm still more concerned with an IND, SD (yes, SD), or DEN than I am with DAL.

Dallas is much better than the pretender Broncos....and Champ gets owned by T.O. (I think the longest reception of T.O.'s career came off a Champ roasting )

 

[[icon]]

Tony Romo? Pffft. They'll be calling him Tony Nomo after Thomas, Colvin and Seymour beat him into Mexico. Good luck.

This is awesome.

By the way the NE defense does not scare Dallas what so ever it is Tom Brady and Tom Brady only. Believe that.

I see. It's good to have iguys like yourself with inside info on what the team's thinking. I would have never suspected that Dallas would not even be a little concerned about faicing the #1 Defense in the NFL.

 

[[icon]]

This will be a SuperBowl preview IMHO.

I laughed, but you probably got reported, just so you know.

All I can say is I would rather be in Dallas's position then NE's to get to the Super Bowl. Dallas has the likes of Chicago, NO, SEA, GB,PHILLY. While NE as great as they are have INDY, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, SD, HOUSTON. Allot tougher of a road.

Who cares about GETTING to the superbowl. We're there to WIN it. IF the Cowboys make it to the SB.... hey're going to get slapped around by whatever AFC squad (Colts/Pats/Steelers) make it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Tony Romo? Pffft. They'll be calling him Tony Nomo after Thomas, Colvin and Seymour beat him into Mexico. Good luck.

This is awesome.

By the way the NE defense does not scare Dallas what so ever it is Tom Brady and Tom Brady only. Believe that.

I see. It's good to have iguys like yourself with inside info on what the team's thinking. I would have never suspected that Dallas would not even be a little concerned about faicing the #1 Defense in the NFL.

Dallas doesn't play the Steelers this season.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This will be a SuperBowl preview IMHO.

I laughed, but you probably got reported, just so you know.

All I can say is I would rather be in Dallas's position then NE's to get to the Super Bowl. Dallas has the likes of Chicago, NO, SEA, GB,PHILLY. While NE as great as they are have INDY, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, SD, HOUSTON. Allot tougher of a road.

Who cares about GETTING to the superbowl. We're there to WIN it. IF the Cowboys make it to the SB.... hey're going to get slapped around by whatever AFC squad (Colts/Pats/Steelers) make it.

It's good to have iguys like yourself with inside info on what's going to happen in the future.

 

[[icon]]

Welker gives pats a dominant option on underneath routes to sustain drives and, when combined with Watson.. keep defenses from double teaming Moss all day.

Let me go ahead and insert my entire quote there... then I'll wait for you to stop drooling on yourself. Okay good... Welker is known as one of the better possession receivers in the game. He currently has roughly the same numbers as Harrison, Holt, Branch, Colston, etc. He's SIGNIFICANTLY better than Crayton as a WR2 and has quickly become the guy Brady goes to when he needs a reception. Glenn will NOT be back for this game.

I get that you're high on your Cowboys... that's cool.... but frankly your early assertions in this thread were nearly outlandish enough to flat out dismiss as blatant fishing... but the higher you fly in the face of facts, the more we're going to be forced to dismiss what little credibility your posts had in this forum to begin with.

Whitten is good and has posted better numbers than watson thus far this season.... but don't be so quick to assume he's a huge step up from Watson. He's got more numbers because Romo needs him... they really don't have many other options. New england has WAY more offensive weapons and the Dallas Defense frankly has no chance of slowing down the NE offense.

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IF NE Wins this game, you must put in your sig:



"As a cowboy fan I was clearly blinded by the star and never saw the freight train that is the Patriots coming. While my Cowgirls are a respectable up and coming squad... it is painfully obvious they are nothing more than fools gold: one of the better teams in a second rate conference with no chance to hang with the REAL top teams in the NFL when push comes to shove"

You in?

 

[PatsFanCT]

Dallas will take it's 26.3333333 point beating and you'll like it.

 

[[icon]]

Tony Romo? Pffft. They'll be calling him Tony Nomo after Thomas, Colvin and Seymour beat him into Mexico. Good luck.

This is awesome.

By the way the NE defense does not scare Dallas what so ever it is Tom Brady and Tom Brady only. Believe that.

I see. It's good to have iguys like yourself with inside info on what the team's thinking. I would have never suspected that Dallas would not even be a little concerned about faicing the #1 Defense in the NFL.

Dallas doesn't play the Steelers this season.

While the term "best defense" could be measured on any number of metrics I'm aware the steelers have allowed the fewest points to date. That said... Yards Allowed to date >

 

[[icon]]

This will be a SuperBowl preview IMHO.

I laughed, but you probably got reported, just so you know.

All I can say is I would rather be in Dallas's position then NE's to get to the Super Bowl. Dallas has the likes of Chicago, NO, SEA, GB,PHILLY. While NE as great as they are have INDY, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, SD, HOUSTON. Allot tougher of a road.

Who cares about GETTING to the superbowl. We're there to WIN it. IF the Cowboys make it to the SB.... hey're going to get slapped around by whatever AFC squad (Colts/Pats/Steelers) make it.

It's good to have iguys like yourself with inside info on what's going to happen in the future.

 

[Phlash]

I expect Dallas to have no answer for Moss... I am a cowboys fan.

Moss will have alligator arms with Roy Williams lurking.

Moss will count on the play action pass to have Williams so out of position that he won't be anywhere close to hit him.

What play action pass with Demarcus ware wrapped around Tom Brady's back?

Yes, because the Pats O-line has been so terrible keeping Brady from getting sacked.If the Cowboys even dare to blitz, Wes Welker will smoke them over the middle.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Tony Romo? Pffft. They'll be calling him Tony Nomo after Thomas, Colvin and Seymour beat him into Mexico. Good luck.

This is awesome.

By the way the NE defense does not scare Dallas what so ever it is Tom Brady and Tom Brady only. Believe that.

I see. It's good to have iguys like yourself with inside info on what the team's thinking. I would have never suspected that Dallas would not even be a little concerned about faicing the #1 Defense in the NFL.

Dallas doesn't play the Steelers this season.

While the term "best defense" could be measured on any number of metrics I'm aware the steelers have allowed the fewest points to date. That said... Yards Allowed to date >

That's a much better indicator, since wins and losses are determined by yardage allowed.For a team whose fan base doesn't care very much, you're trying awfully hard here.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Brady > RomoMaroney/Morris < Jones/BarberMoss < TOWelker < GlennWatson < WittenNE D-Line = Dallas D-LineNE Linebackers = Dallas LinebackersNE Secondary > Dallas SecondaryDallas Home FieldThis is not near a sure thing for NE as most would think. Dallas punches them in da mouf.

Here - the stats may help when analyzing this, especially those areas where you have Dallas being superior.Maroney/Morris...403 yards, 2TDsJones/Barber...380 yards, 4 TDsMoss...22-403, 5 TDsTO...16-329, 3 TDsWelker...20-221, 1 TDGlenn...0-000, 0 TDWatson...9-75, 3 TDsWitten...14-233, 2TDs

 

[Ghost Rider]

What's funny about this is that Dallas fans think that Patriots fans are looking forward to this game like it's a collision course of the two best teams in football. The game that all Patriots fans are looking forward to is the Week 9 tilt with the Colts. No other regular season games are circled at this point.

Are you Bill Bellicheat? Are you in their lockerroom? No. They best beware of Dallas, otherwise that Colts game wont matter.

Oh, please. Trust me, if you told the Patriots that they would only win one of those two games, they would take the win over the Colts. That is a 100% guarantee.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Brady > RomoMaroney/Morris < Jones/BarberMoss < TOWelker < GlennWatson < WittenNE D-Line = Dallas D-LineNE Linebackers = Dallas LinebackersNE Secondary > Dallas SecondaryDallas Home FieldThis is not near a sure thing for NE as most would think. Dallas punches them in da mouf.

Here - the stats may help when analyzing this, especially those areas where you have Dallas being superior.Maroney/Morris...403 yards, 2TDsJones/Barber...380 yards, 4 TDsMoss...22-403, 5 TDsTO...16-329, 3 TDsWelker...20-221, 1 TDGlenn...0-000, 0 TDWatson...9-75, 3 TDsWitten...14-233, 2TDs

@ comparing Welker to Glenn when Glenn hasn't even played a snap yet.......

 

[Bad_Mo]

Better respect, my pimp hand is strong and fierce. I'll drop the mic like Demarcus Ware will drop Golden Boy Brady.

Long Live the Kane. <>

More like Demarcus Ware'd he go?

 

[Bad_Mo]

Brady > RomoMaroney/Morris < Jones/BarberMoss < TOWelker < GlennWatson < WittenNE D-Line = Dallas D-LineNE Linebackers = Dallas LinebackersNE Secondary > Dallas SecondaryDallas Home FieldThis is not near a sure thing for NE as most would think. Dallas punches them in da mouf.

Here - the stats may help when analyzing this, especially those areas where you have Dallas being superior.Maroney/Morris...403 yards, 2TDsJones/Barber...380 yards, 4 TDsMoss...22-403, 5 TDsTO...16-329, 3 TDsWelker...20-221, 1 TDGlenn...0-000, 0 TDWatson...9-75, 3 TDsWitten...14-233, 2TDs

@ comparing Welker to Glenn when Glenn hasn't even played a snap yet.......

I know. But, he is DEFINITELY better than Welker...(Maybe the version of Glenn when he played for NE, that is)

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

A lot of effort here guys being spent on what only can be solved on the field. NE will be favored and will probably win. It's not a gauranteed win however, because Dallas has a potent offense, they're at home and Dallas has proven even last year that they could rise to the occasion and beat an elite AFC team under their roof.

If Dallas wins, I won't be on here saying I told you so because I haven't. I'm not sure that the Cowboys can beat NE at home or anywhere else, I hope that can.

In fact......Dallas isn't even 5-0 yet. Let's get to that point....I'm not comfortable talking as if we are 5-0. Let's take care of business vs. St. Louis and the following week. Let's try and tighten up the defense, try and run a little better and if we can win the next two games, see if we can play the best game of the season versus probably the best team in the league.

If the Cowboys and their staff spend as much time worrying about the Pats game in 3 weeks as we are..........they may be 3-2 heading into that game.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Brady > RomoMaroney/Morris < Jones/BarberMoss < TOWelker < GlennWatson < WittenNE D-Line = Dallas D-LineNE Linebackers = Dallas LinebackersNE Secondary > Dallas SecondaryDallas Home FieldThis is not near a sure thing for NE as most would think. Dallas punches them in da mouf.

Here - the stats may help when analyzing this, especially those areas where you have Dallas being superior.Maroney/Morris...403 yards, 2TDsJones/Barber...380 yards, 4 TDsMoss...22-403, 5 TDsTO...16-329, 3 TDsWelker...20-221, 1 TDGlenn...0-000, 0 TDWatson...9-75, 3 TDsWitten...14-233, 2TDs

@ comparing Welker to Glenn when Glenn hasn't even played a snap yet.......

I know. But, he is DEFINITELY better than Welker...(Maybe the version of Glenn when he played for NE, that is)

Actually, if you were looking for a valid comparison, you'd put Witten next to Welker, Crayton next to Watson, and Sam Hurd next to Stallworth. But let's not screw up the ridiculousness on both sides of this argument by taking a common sense approach.

 

[twitch]

anyone out there make mention that Tom Brady is something like 24-1 on turf? What do the 'Boyz play on? Believe its the fake stuff. Those are the chances Im giving Dallas at winning that game....a 1 in 25 chance.

 

[greenline]

Pats win this game. Miami in Miami and the Indy game are the only possible losses.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Pats win this game. Miami in Miami and the Indy game are the only possible losses.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Last time TO and Moss had their big matchup, TO lost big time.

2005 Week 3Philly 23, Oak 20Moss: 5 catches, 86 yardsOwens: 9 catches, 90 yards, 1 TD

Have we resorted to comparing Moss in Oakland with Moss in NE with a straight face? Seriously?

2004 Week 2Philly 27, Minn 16Moss: 8 catches, 69 yards, 1 TDOwens: 4 catches, 79 yards, 1 TD

And now we're pulling data from a season where Moss posted 767 total receiving yards... less than half of his total from the year before. Apples to Oranges my friend.... let's just put the shovel down will we? Comparing the situation to ANY situation he has ever been in is laughable at best... .. and borderline downright foolish. Moss v Owens will be a good showdown but the Pats don't care about making sure Randy beats Owens. NE has enough weapons that Moss could be double teamed and post a gooseegg and NE would still post 34 points on this Dallas team. Dallas is a good squad that should run over most of the NFC....but they are just outclassed here.

Read what the original poster said, and I quote, "Last time TO and Moss had their big matchup, TO lost big time."I just pulled the last two times TO and Moss played in a game. Both times TO did better.

 

[greenline]

Pats win this game. Miami in Miami and the Indy game are the only possible losses.

tee hee hee hee.

 

[SR388]

Better respect, my pimp hand is strong and fierce. I'll drop the mic like Demarcus Ware will drop Golden Boy Brady.

Long Live the Kane. <>

More like Demarcus Ware'd he go?

:kneeslapper: He's got 11 tackles and two sacks. (On pace for double digit sacks.)

 

[Bossman]

The Cowboys?

The team that gave up 20 points to the Dolphins?

If the Cowboys gave up 35 to the GIANTS I'd guess they'd be tickled to hold the Pats to 60.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Pats win this game. Miami in Miami and the Indy game are the only possible losses.

tee hee hee hee.

I bolded the wrong part. I was actually laughing at you thinking the Pats could lose to the Phins. You must not be very confident in your team......

 

[TD Ryan]

I bolded the wrong part. I was actually laughing at you thinking the Pats could lose to the Phins. You must not be very confident in your team......

I don't take any divisional game lightly.NYJ, MIA, even BUF... division games are always tough.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I bolded the wrong part. I was actually laughing at you thinking the Pats could lose to the Phins. You must not be very confident in your team......

I don't take any divisional game lightly.NYJ, MIA, even BUF... division games are always tough.

Yeah last week's game was a real nailbiter

 

[LBH]

I think it will be 38-14 Pats

 

[Maven]

NE will have a field day with Romo and the Cowboys. Trust me...

 

[LBH]

Pats win this game. Miami in Miami and the Indy game are the only possible losses.

tee hee hee hee.

I bolded the wrong part. I was actually laughing at you thinking the Pats could lose to the Phins. You must not be very confident in your team......

Miami does give the Pats trouble for some reason

 

[Bossman]

What's funny about this is that Dallas fans think that Patriots fans are looking forward to this game like it's a collision course of the two best teams in football. The game that all Patriots fans are looking forward to is the Week 9 tilt with the Colts. No other regular season games are circled at this point.

Ah.... you'd have to think there is a big fat red circle around the Jets game at home week 15.

 

[greenline]

Pats win this game. Miami in Miami and the Indy game are the only possible losses.

tee hee hee hee.

I bolded the wrong part. I was actually laughing at you thinking the Pats could lose to the Phins. You must not be very confident in your team......

Yeah, "I'm not very confident." You should follow the AFC East a little closer and watch the dynamics of a NE-MIA game in Miami, in October. It's always one of NE's hardest games. Brady always struggles against Miami. I think it's acceptable to project a loss within your own division considering it makes up six games of your season.