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Dan Herron.....anything there? (2 Viewers)

Herron is a stop gap. Any RB not named TRich does well in that offense. This offseason they will draft the future. Grab him when they do.

 
Rotoworld:

Dan Herron - RB - Colts

Dan Herron rushed 12 times for 56 yards and a touchdown in the Colts' Wild Card win over the Bengals, adding 10 catches for an additional 85 yards.

It was a charmed day on paper, but it's Herron's two fumbles the Colts' coaching staff will be talking about in the build up to the Divisional Round. Herron's first cough up came on a great play from Bengals CB Darqueze Dennard, but the second was the kind of soft loss that will drive a coach nuts. The good news is, Trent Richardson is so far in the doghouse that he appeared to play all of one snap. Herron was backed up by Zurlon Tipton. Herron got vanishingly-few reps after his second fumble, but is going to carry the mail against the Broncos. He'll just be on a short leash.

Jan 4 - 4:25 PM
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The second fumble looked easily down by contact and the ground caused the fumble. But coaches were not going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He looked great in the game though. Still don't know what will happen with Indy next year. Herron has another strong game next week will go a long way to helping secure some type of look for next year.

 
This fumble looked unavoidable, but he put himself in the position to be benched if he kept fumbling. I wish he would stop fumbling, he could easily be a nice piece in a powerful offense.

 
msudaisy26 said:
This fumble looked unavoidable, but he put himself in the position to be benched if he kept fumbling. I wish he would stop fumbling, he could easily be a nice piece in a powerful offense.
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This. He does everything well. His blocking has been very good as well and he looks like a very good 3 down RB in this offense.

The off season will be interesting especially around draft time in determining what the Colts really feel about Herron.

 
Carter_Can_Fly said:
msudaisy26 said:
This fumble looked unavoidable, but he put himself in the position to be benched if he kept fumbling. I wish he would stop fumbling, he could easily be a nice piece in a powerful offense.
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This. He does everything well. His blocking has been very good as well and he looks like a very good 3 down RB in this offense.

The off season will be interesting especially around draft time in determining what the Colts really feel about Herron.
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I wouldn't even care if he was the second guy. He would still be useful fantasy wise. He catches passes well, he seems to be a good goal line back in limited use.

 
Rotoworld:

Coach Chuck Pagano had praise for Dan Herron following Sunday's win over the Bengals despite two fumbles.

The fumbles are easier to swallow because they didn't cost the Colts the game and because Herron was a huge part of the win. He racked up 141 total yards, 10 catches and a touchdown. "He's gaining confidence," Pagano said. "Obviously, there's some plays out there that he'd like to have back and you've got to clean up, but the guy's a playmaker. He can create when there's not much there." In other words, Herron is the anti-Trent Richardson. Expect Boom to be the clear-cut feature back again when the Colts travel to Denver Sunday.

Source: Indianapolis Star
Jan 5 - 9:43 AM
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I can't figure out if I should keep j-stew or Herron for next year. Both will cost me the same. I guess wait and see approach is best.

 
ahartig said:
I can't figure out if I should keep j-stew or Herron for next year. Both will cost me the same. I guess wait and see approach is best.
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Yeah, wait and see. I think it will be a pretty easy decision by preseason depending on what Indy does in the draft/FA.

 
Rotoworld:

Colts coach Chuck Pagano assured the Colts will "stay the course" with Dan Herron despite his two fumbles in the Wild Card Round.
Herron also lost two fumbles in the regular season. He is still by-far the Colts' best tailback option, however, and Pagano noted Monday that benching a running back for fumbling "might kill a guy's confidence." Rather, by sticking with him, the Colts are trying to increase Herron's confidence. Novel concept.

Source: Stephen Holder on Twitter
Jan 5 - 4:19 PM
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If Indy wins this week and Herron plays a large part of the win, I think he will have at least solidified being a big part of a time share for next year. He already may have shown enough, but it would be great to see him play well and not fumble this week.

 
hardcoredx said:
I meant Denver last season. This year denver has a legit defense and can run the ball. Green Bay can't play any defense and neither does Indy who can't even run the ball. A loser formula for the playoffs is what Indy does on offense - I would bet any legit defense against them in the playoffs.
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Fat Nick said:
hardcoredx said:
Don't care about that fluff piece by whoever the hell that is. The fact you take an article that claims "rushing hardly matters" is laughable. Also, I don't care what their regualr season rankings are- what matters is what they are trending and how strong their defense is. Anyone with half a brain knows Indy will not make it to the SB.
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So...do you think that the regular season rankings don't take into account how they are trending and how strong their defense is?

The bolded statement is certainly sig-worthy if they do indeed make it. It's very easy to pick the field vs. any team...who do you actually think WILL make the SB?
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So let's see...you called out Green Bay, and they're now in the conference finals.

You called out teams that don't/can't run the ball, and the Patriots set an NFL record with 14 yards rushing and beat Baltimore.

You called out Indy with your nice little "anyone with half a brain" quote, and they're now in the conference finals...beating a Denver team with, as you put it, "a legit defense."

You're not looking too good thus far. Better go all-in on Seattle.

:popcorn:

 
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Rotoworld:

Dan Herron rushed 10 times for 51 yards and caught two passes for 11 yards in Sunday's AFC Championship Game loss at New England.

Herron's two brutal drops early on really hurt the Colts, but they had no prayer of winning this game anyway. And they likely wouldn't have even been in this spot if it wasn't for Boom. He took over as the feature back when the playoffs hit, racking up 45-170-2 on the ground and 20-128-0 through the air in three games. This is a back that squeezes the most out of his talent, making him the anti-Trent Richardson. Herron will almost certainly face competition for the starting job this offseason, but he showed more than enough to get a long look from the coaches. It's a depth chart situation to monitor closely throughout the spring and summer.

Jan 18 - 10:40 PM
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georg013 said:
B...b..b..but he is the future in Indy because I grabbed him off waivers.
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Odds that the Colts grab someone new or even two/three new backs in the off-season is high, but that's par for the course in the NFL. I guess the question is how they acquire these RBs.

If they liked Herron to intend to feature him, then they'll draft someone mid-rounds, or

If they're skeptical of Herron, then they'd pay some sort of premium and go the FA route or, depending on his condition, keep Bradshaw.

TRich seems to be a non-factor in any scenario (keep for some technical reason or let go).

 
My guess (hope) is that they land one of the top FAs. I doubt it's Murray if he becomes available, but I could see an Ingram or Spiller-type. I want a pounder who can also catch. Murray behind our current line would be a waste.

 
In all seriousness, I think they draft a back they feel is tailored for their offense. Why invest in an aging vet (likely more expensive than any rookie they draft) if they could spend a second and grab a solid prospect? Abdullah comes to mind as a good fit here.

 
georg013 said:
In all seriousness, I think they draft a back they feel is tailored for their offense. Why invest in an aging vet (likely more expensive than any rookie they draft) if they could spend a second and grab a solid prospect? Abdullah comes to mind as a good fit here.
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I'd be surprised if they go to the skill positions in the first two/three rounds. They need help upfront in large quantities on both sides of the ball.

 
Tango said:
georg013 said:
In all seriousness, I think they draft a back they feel is tailored for their offense. Why invest in an aging vet (likely more expensive than any rookie they draft) if they could spend a second and grab a solid prospect? Abdullah comes to mind as a good fit here.
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I'd be surprised if they go to the skill positions in the first two/three rounds. They need help upfront in large quantities on both sides of the ball.
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I agree with this. My guess is they pound the Line and either add a DB or Strong Safety.

 
I own Herron in dynasty but from what I've seen I'd be shocked if Indy doesn't do something this off season to try to upgrade the RB position.

 
It is pretty evident this team does not need to invest a ton in a RB at the present time. They just got man handled by a team who picked up their RB a month ago. THey need to look at the Pats as to a plan of action. The problem with Indy is at the present time their guys in the trenches on both the O line and D line are crap. They need to change that asap for them to be much more competitive against the better teams in the NFL. They are a flawed team at the present time that is often carried by a QB who has to play at an unreal level to make up for a lot of their flaws in the trenches.

 
Seems Im not the only one who feels Herron is backup quality.

Source: ESPN.com Jan 20 - 9:17 AM

Dan Herron - RB - Colts

ESPN Colts reporter Mike Wells considers Dan Herron "more of a backup than starter" in the NFL.

Herron handled himself very well as a feature back in the playoffs, touching the ball 65 times in three games. But he averaged just 3.77 YPC and was squeezing the most out of his natural talent. Coach Chuck Pagano admitted Monday that improving the run game is a priority for him this offseason. Herron will face plenty of competition for carries in 2015, possibly in the form of injury-risks Ahmad Bradshaw (free agent coming off broken leg) and Vick Ballard (coming off Achilles' tear). This is also a strong class for running backs in the draft.

 
georg013 said:
Seems Im not the only one who feels Herron is backup quality.

Source: ESPN.com Jan 20 - 9:17 AM

Dan Herron - RB - Colts

(1) ESPN Colts reporter Mike Wells considers Dan Herron "more of a backup than starter" in the NFL.

(2) Herron handled himself very well as a feature back in the playoffs, touching the ball 65 times in three games. But he averaged just 3.77 YPC and was squeezing the most out of his natural talent.

(3)Coach Chuck Pagano admitted Monday that improving the run game is a priority for him this offseason.

(4) Herron will face plenty of competition for carries in 2015, possibly in the form of injury-risks Ahmad Bradshaw (free agent coming off broken leg) and Vick Ballard (coming off Achilles' tear).

(5) This is also a strong class for running backs in the draft.
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#1 above is a reasonable opinion IMO

#2 is ok too I guess; but other than the fumbles of course, Herron did just fine in the playoffs

#3 is not an "admission" by Pagano in any way. That's just a writer trumpeting up something that's obvious. Needing to improve the run game is a fact whether or not they think Herron will be their #1 next year. That stateent can be interpreted as indictment against Richardson, the O-line, Bradshaw or anybody else as much as Herron. That statement is not necessarily an indictment on Herron versus that of any recent poster in this thead. Best case for Herron regarding competition is that the Colts draft a RB in the 4th/5th. So no one in here recently has projected a rosy path for Herron on this team.

#4 Captain of the obvious statement here

#5 ok

 
Always liked Boom, can catch, run, block. I realize it's a different player but he's a Pierre Thomas type, real pro, all around skills. The Colts lost something in cutting him loose, the dump off and screen has gone away.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Always liked Boom, can catch, run, block. I realize it's a different player but he's a Pierre Thomas type, real pro, all around skills. The Colts lost something in cutting him loose, the dump off and screen has gone away.
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Agreed. The drop off to the rookie Josh Robinson this year in Indy has been such a blunder by that organization. Robinson should not be on a game day roster at this stage or perhaps ever, he should have been on their practice roster. He has missed multiple blocking assignment and is averaging 2.3 ypc. I get Herron was hurt, but he should be on Indy's roster and now backing up Gore.

 
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A year later, the question remains, anything to see here?
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Gore owners should grab him immediately, imo.

Otherwise...Boom's a decent lottery ticket, but probably low upside. Worth a stash, imo. If Gore gets misses time I'd expect Herron to produce similar to Gore, maybe slightly better since Gore has fallen off a bit lately.


 
Can't hold on to the football.

Journeymen. Can put of FF stats in PPR no doubt (but only if Gore goes down). But then he puts the ball on the ground far too often. Can't trust him.

 
VandyMan said:
FF Ninja said:
A year later, the question remains, anything to see here?
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Gore owners should grab him immediately, imo.

Otherwise...Boom's a decent lottery ticket, but probably low upside. Worth a stash, imo. If Gore gets misses time I'd expect Herron to produce similar to Gore, maybe slightly better since Gore has fallen off a bit lately.
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That's putting it a bit lightly. He's been atrocious. 2.5 ypc the past 4 games on 83 carries. Scored the worst PFF grade for RBs in week 12.

 
FF Ninja said:
VandyMan said:
FF Ninja said:
A year later, the question remains, anything to see here?
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Gore owners should grab him immediately, imo.

Otherwise...Boom's a decent lottery ticket, but probably low upside. Worth a stash, imo. If Gore gets misses time I'd expect Herron to produce similar to Gore, maybe slightly better since Gore has fallen off a bit lately.
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That's putting it a bit lightly. He's been atrocious. 2.5 ypc the past 4 games on 83 carries. Scored the worst PFF grade for RBs in week 12.
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:thumbup: LOL, yes. I was too lazy. Should have looked that up before posting. Thanks.

 
Time to bring in the BOOM.

I don't understand the pessimistic comments. Gore ailing and this guy can do it all. In PPR he's a must add IMHO.

 
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