Dan Morgan/Seward (1 Viewer)

[cr8f]

Did Morgan leave the game? How did Seward get so mant tackles?

 

[Jene Bramel]

Did Morgan leave the game? How did Seward get so mant tackles?

Yep, Morgan was gone in the first quarter.

 

[Donnybrook]

Kerney leaves with arm injury

September 10, 2006

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Atlanta defensive end Patrick Kerney left Sunday's game against Carolina with an arm injury, while the Panthers lost linebacker Dan Morgan and left tackle Travelle Wharton.

Kerney suffered a right triceps strain in the first quarter. His return was questionable.

Morgan was shaken up in the second quarter, and his return was also questionable. He was taken out of the game and spent several minutes on the bench talking with a trainer. The oft-injured Morgan has missed 25 of 90 games in his five-year career.

Wharton had to be helped off the field late in the second quarter with a strained left knee. The Panthers replaced him by shifting guard Mike Wahle over and sending Geoff Hangartner in to replace Wahle.

Updated on Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 2:25 pm ED

As luck would have it, I was starting both of these guys in seperate leagues.

 

[cracKer]

another concussion

 

[Chaos Commish]

Keeping in mind Bramel's advice about jumping off of ledges, I think it's okay to ignore the advice here. Go ahead and jump.

 

[cr8f]

Keeping in mind Bramel's advice about jumping off of ledges, I think it's okay to ignore the advice here. Go ahead and jump.

I don't have Morgan, I have Seward as a 5th LB thinking Morgan could go down. Not hoping for it, but this is football-you never know.

 

[The Carnage]

I don't have Morgan, I have Seward as a 5th LB thinking Morgan could go down. Not hoping for it, but this is football-you never know.

No, with Morgan, I think you do know.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I love Morgan, but I have a feeling he's reached the Aikman/Young level of concussioninitis. I drafted him knowing this was a possibility since he had preseason issues, but I also believe he is as talented as any MLB out there when healthy. It was a foolish risk, but shopping for his replacement will be fun.

 

[Jene Bramel]

I love Morgan, but I have a feeling he's reached the Aikman/Young level of concussioninitis. I drafted him knowing this was a possibility since he had preseason issues, but I also believe he is as talented as any MLB out there when healthy. It was a foolish risk, but shopping for his replacement will be fun.

Depending on the severity of his symptoms today, he'll probably be held out next week (or two weeks). Two more concussions this past week, no matter how minor, have to call into question whether it's reasonable to continue to send him back out there at all. His quality of life could be permanently affected with every future hit.

 

[cr8f]

I love Morgan, but I have a feeling he's reached the Aikman/Young level of concussioninitis. I drafted him knowing this was a possibility since he had preseason issues, but I also believe he is as talented as any MLB out there when healthy. It was a foolish risk, but shopping for his replacement will be fun.

Depending on the severity of his symptoms today, he'll probably be held out next week (or two weeks). Two more concussions this past week, no matter how minor, have to call into question whether it's reasonable to continue to send him back out there at all. His quality of life could be permanently affected with every future hit.

Good point. His health is important.I expect James Anderson to be the WLB before long because of Diggs' injury history too.

 

[Warpig]

Dan Morgan concussed again?!?! Noooooooo?

That guy should be wearing one of those cheer skirts instead of shoulder pads.

 

[Rozelle]

It may be time to cut bait. Football aside, Morgan needs to look at the big picture and consider retirement.

 

[gregjcross]

With the latest news, leaving hte last two games, one has to predict that Morgan will not play anymore,The Charlotte Observer is saying fourth concussion, ti does not look good. Seems Seward or C.Draft would take over, i think CAR knew of hte danger and they kept an extra LB after August

It may be time to cut bait. Football aside, Morgan needs to look at the big picture and consider retirement.

 

[womb]

Wouldn't they consider moving Davis to middle and Draft on the strong side should Morgan not be able to make it back? I reckon Draft is better at SLB and Davis may be a big playmaker in the middle.

 

[cr8f]

Wouldn't they consider moving Davis to middle and Draft on the strong side should Morgan not be able to make it back? I reckon Draft is better at SLB and Davis may be a big playmaker in the middle.

I agree. I hope they do.

 

[The_Hunchback]

Wouldn't they consider moving Davis to middle and Draft on the strong side should Morgan not be able to make it back? I reckon Draft is better at SLB and Davis may be a big playmaker in the middle.

I agree. I hope they do.

I don't see why they would move him to MLB. He was a safety last year and is now the SLB, who is a playmaker in this defense. Putting him in the middle would mean he wears down fast and is overwhelmed taking on lineman every play.It will be interesting to see if Diggs comes back who starts at MLB, I think Diggs right now is the key to other two LB spots. Do they go with youth to see what they have in Seward or do they go with Draft who has the experience. If Diggs isn't back then it becomes even more interesting to see if Anderson gets the start at WLB and who gets the MLB gig.I agree though that this can't be good news for Morgan and that he should spend some time considering what to do. Then again football players normally want to get back as quickly as possible.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Wouldn't they consider moving Davis to middle and Draft on the strong side should Morgan not be able to make it back? I reckon Draft is better at SLB and Davis may be a big playmaker in the middle.

I agree. I hope they do.

I don't see why they would move him to MLB. He was a safety last year and is now the SLB, who is a playmaker in this defense. Putting him in the middle would mean he wears down fast and is overwhelmed taking on lineman every play.It will be interesting to see if Diggs comes back who starts at MLB, I think Diggs right now is the key to other two LB spots. Do they go with youth to see what they have in Seward or do they go with Draft who has the experience. If Diggs isn't back then it becomes even more interesting to see if Anderson gets the start at WLB and who gets the MLB gig.

I agree though that this can't be good news for Morgan and that he should spend some time considering what to do. Then again football players normally want to get back as quickly as possible.

They had to take away his helmet on the sideline again. That's fairly standard for guys with concussion but it's still kinda funny.The Panthers won't move Davis again. He got jerked about during critical formative time last season and it left him a situational player in 2005. I'm a little surprised that Davis' statline didn't get more love than it did. 4-1-0, 2 QH, FF is pretty nice against a Vick led team. We really aren't expecting him to pick up tackles in bunches so 4 solos and 2 hurries suggests he might have some value this season after all, albeit with limited upside.

I think Hunchback makes a good point about the Panthers considering the more experienced Draft in the middle if Diggs returns to the lineup. But the coaching staff is really enamored with Seward. I think you see him there until he proves himself unworthy. He really wasn't anything special this past week despite a pretty nice 2 1/2 quarter boxscore.

 

[lions327]

Wouldn't they consider moving Davis to middle and Draft on the strong side should Morgan not be able to make it back? I reckon Draft is better at SLB and Davis may be a big playmaker in the middle.

Must be a Thomas Davis owner.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Fwiw, no surprise here. He is out for the week and contemplating retirement.

 

[FantasyGuru#1]

Fwiw, no surprise here. He is out for the week and contemplating retirement.

Is seyward worth picking up... Did he look good!

 

[cr8f]

Fwiw, no surprise here. He is out for the week and contemplating retirement.

Is seyward worth picking up... Did he look good!

He isn't Morgan but they do like him and he had some good tackle games in the PS. I've been holding him and Anderson figuring they would both be starters.Getting th Carolina MLB is a definite must.

 

[nortobc]

Fwiw, no surprise here. He is out for the week and contemplating retirement.

Is seyward worth picking up... Did he look good!

He isn't Morgan but they do like him and he had some good tackle games in the PS. I've been holding him and Anderson figuring they would both be starters.Getting th Carolina MLB is a definite must.

Is Seyward going to play in the nickel package with Davis? Need to update my 3 down LBer thread.

 

[Keg]

dont be surprised if Draft starts at MLB...imo the situation is still a bit to cloudy and much of it could hinge on the health of diggs...if diggs can start at WLB then Draft very well could start at MLB if diggs cant go then Draft probably stays at WLB where he started on sunday and seward will man the middle

 

[go corn]

Any more news on the Morgan/Seward-front?

I need to finalize my lineup by 12noon on Sat, and currenly have EJ Henderson plugged in as my IDP flex position. If Seward's a go, I'd slide him into that spot.

Appreciate any feedback, gents, and good luck this weekend!

 

[Chaos Commish]

Morgan is Out.

Keg's post two up is interesting irt Seward.

 

[cr8f]

dont be surprised if Draft starts at MLB...imo the situation is still a bit to cloudy and much of it could hinge on the health of diggs...if diggs can start at WLB then Draft very well could start at MLB if diggs cant go then Draft probably stays at WLB where he started on sunday and seward will man the middle

That's possible. Draft did very well there the last 2 weeks last season. Seward is a better player but they may not want two 2nd year players starting. It is just a matter of tme before and even James Anderson start. He I think is the future at WLB. They like him and compaed him favorably with Spoon but he is a rookie.

 

[Tick]

Any more news on the Morgan/Seward-front?I need to finalize my lineup by 12noon on Sat, and currenly have EJ Henderson plugged in as my IDP flex position. If Seward's a go, I'd slide him into that spot.Appreciate any feedback, gents, and good luck this weekend!

Stick with Henderson. They're comparable anyway and there's no risk with Henderson.

 

[pretender]

Seward to start at MLB Sunday (Rotoworld) LB Adam Seward will start in the middle Sunday with Dan Morgan (concussion) out.Impact: Seward tallied 7 tackles in Morgan's absence against the Falcons and makes for a decent IDP replacement. Thu Sep 14 8:49:00 a.m. ET 2006

Sounds like Seward is starting.

 

[Chaos Commish]

link

Adam Seward will start at middle linebacker for Dan Morgan, who is out because of a concussion.

This is the first I've seen that didn't call Seward the likely starter.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Coach Fox on Seward:

On linebacker Adam Seward: He got hurt very early on last year, but we liked what we saw up until that point. He spent the year rehabbing. He came in this year and was a part of the whole offseason. He's a young player who's getting better.On what he likes about Seward: He's one of our bigger guys and he's got good speed. Now it's just becoming more in-depth on what we're doing and playing the game in the National Football League.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Puff Piece

“I think I bring a lot of intensity, intangibles, and instincts,” said Seward, who was UNLV’s all-time leading tackler. “I think I have great instincts. I like to run around and hit people. That’s what I like to do. I like to come downhill and hit.”

That he does. In a recent Fan Q&A on Panthers.com, teammate Karl Hankton was asked which player other than himself possessed the ability to literally knock an opponent out. Hankton picked Seward.

It's a decent read if you want background on this guy.

 

[Keg]

Seward to start at MLB Sunday (Rotoworld) LB Adam Seward will start in the middle Sunday with Dan Morgan (concussion) out.Impact: Seward tallied 7 tackles in Morgan's absence against the Falcons and makes for a decent IDP replacement. Thu Sep 14 8:49:00 a.m. ET 2006 Sounds like Seward is starting.

i would say to be leary of what you read at Rotoworld...they are the ones that reported SF was going to be playing a 4/3...and I dont think they ever retracted their statement either

 

[gregjcross]

RotoWorld didnt have to retract it as Coach Nolan siad the 49ers would consider the 4-3. He stuck with the 3-4 anyway for week one, but its all on the record in the San Francisco Chronicle from August at http://www.sfgate.com

I also paasted that link to this board the day it appeared.

Seward to start at MLB Sunday (Rotoworld) LB Adam Seward will start in the middle Sunday with Dan Morgan (concussion) out.Impact: Seward tallied 7 tackles in Morgan's absence against the Falcons and makes for a decent IDP replacement. Thu Sep 14 8:49:00 a.m. ET 2006

Sounds like Seward is starting.

i would say to be leary of what you read at Rotoworld...they are the ones that reported SF was going to be playing a 4/3...and I dont think they ever retracted their statement either

 

[Keg]

RotoWorld didnt have to retract it as Coach Nolan siad the 49ers would consider the 4-3. He stuck with the 3-4 anyway for week one, but its all on the record in the San Francisco Chronicle from August at http://www.sfgate.com

I also paasted that link to this board the day it appeared.

Seward to start at MLB Sunday (Rotoworld) LB Adam Seward will start in the middle Sunday with Dan Morgan (concussion) out.Impact: Seward tallied 7 tackles in Morgan's absence against the Falcons and makes for a decent IDP replacement. Thu Sep 14 8:49:00 a.m. ET 2006

Sounds like Seward is starting.

i would say to be leary of what you read at Rotoworld...they are the ones that reported SF was going to be playing a 4/3...and I dont think they ever retracted their statement either

thanks for the link, when rotoworld released that they were going to a 4/3 i went digging and came up with a n audio interview of their def coord and he said the 3/4 was still going to be their base defense and he commented on the injuries and how it was easy to move in and out of the 3/4 to a 4/3

 

[Keg]

RotoWorld didnt have to retract it as Coach Nolan siad the 49ers would consider the 4-3. He stuck with the 3-4 anyway for week one, but its all on the record in the San Francisco Chronicle from August at http://www.sfgate.com

I also paasted that link to this board the day it appeared.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...=005&sc=409from Aug. 29th

On Monday, Nolan wasn't so sure where Moore would line up.

"He could be inside or outside," Nolan said. "But in this 3-4, 4-3 thing, we can go anywhere we want."

The 49ers flirted with a four-down linemen, three-linebacker alignment against the Cowboys, with rookie Melvin Oliver playing defensive end for Moore, who missed the game with a knee injury.

your link just took me to the main website, is their another article you are talking about ok i just found this one from Aug. 28th(is this the one you were talking about?)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...=007&sc=710

Nolan said Sunday that outside linebacker Brandon Moore would back up inside linebackers Jeff Ulbrich and Derek Smith when the team resumes practice today.

Moore was tried as the outside linebacker in the 3-4, before injuring his knee against the Raiders on Aug. 20. Moore expects to return to practice this week, but no longer as a starter.

Nolan gave no hints on who would replace Moore.

"I've got three or four ideas," Nolan said, "but I don't want to say anything, because it would just be speculation."

The 49ers are likely to move back to a 4-3 front, possibly by pairing Isaac Sopoaga with either Bryant Young or Anthony Adams at defensive tackle. Whoever doesn't play alongside Sopoaga would be a defensive end.

Now in the above article NOLAN SAID that moore would back up the inside LinebackerS(plural) i take that as in a 3/4 scheme...but then the writer seems to have ignored what nolan said and went on to say that the 9ers would LIKELY move back to a 4-3 So from everything i have been able to find I hear the Def Coord say the base is a 3/4, i see the coach say a specific player is backing up inside LinebackerS so I am to assume they arent moving to a 4/3

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate...p;entry_id=8632

We are expected to see Roderick Green play in the first regular game against the Arizona Cardinals this Sunday. The 49ers under Mike Nolan have been trying to stick with a 3-4 defensive front but due to the lack of healthy outside linebackers they have been forced to move back to the 4-3.

GAMEBOOKgamebook shows the niners started in a 3/4 set(not sure how much time they spent in it)...so the writer of the above article was wrong again in what they expected...again I havent seen anything coming from the coaches that dictates they will switch schemes, will they move people around, will they try different things to alleviate the problems from injuries, etc the answer is YES

 

[Chaos Commish]

I'm with Keg. Rotoworld and KFFL have either been deliberately stretching blurbs out of context into fantasy surprises, or they are both uninformed and lazy in their efforts to provide accurate information.

 

[Keg]

I'm with Keg. Rotoworld and KFFL have either been deliberately stretching blurbs out of context into fantasy surprises, or they are both uninformed and lazy in their efforts to provide accurate information.

i missed what KFFL said, do you have a link?(curious is all)

 

[The Gator]

Panthers | Team gives no updates on Morgan’s condition

Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:57:33 -0700

The Carolina Panthers have not given any updates on the severity of the injury to LB Dan Morgan (concussion). If Morgan is unable to play in Week 2, it is likely the team will start LB Adam Seward.

Looks like Car. isn't helping the cause.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I'm with Keg. Rotoworld and KFFL have either been deliberately stretching blurbs out of context into fantasy surprises, or they are both uninformed and lazy in their efforts to provide accurate information.

i missed what KFFL said, do you have a link?(curious is all)

Rotowire announced Wright as Droughns backup and I called them on it in the Shark Pool. KFFL made a very similar mistake, I also called them on it in the Shark Pool, sorry but I don't recall that one at the moment. It could have been the way they handled Tony Grossi's breif comment about the possibility of Droughns losing goal line carries to Vickers. The beat righter speculatates something to the effect of "it's evident Droughns may lose some short yardage carries." KFFL headlines with Droughns to Lose Goal Line Carries.

 

[Keg]

Panthers | Morgan does not travel with the team

Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:59:09 -0700

Darin Gantt, of the Rock Hill Herald, reports Carolina Panthers LB Dan Morgan (concussion) did not travel with the team to Minnesota for the Week 2 game.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Chris Draft says he's moving to Morgan's old spot.

Could mean Seward is dropped to backup/special teams with Diggs returning to WLB.

Chris Draft just shrugged. Switching positions is nothing new for him. The Panthers' versatile backup, who started the last two weeks at weakside linebacker, said he was moving inside again as the Panthers try to find a combination of linebackers that work.

If he starts there this week, it would mean second-year linebacker Adam Seward returns to his backup/special teams role. That would also likely signal a return to the weakside starting job for Na'il Diggs, who won the job in training camp, missed the opener with a knee injury and played as a reserve and on special teams, although the Panthers have more options there.

Seward has looked good against the run in two games, but has struggled on passing downs with coverage assignments.

 

[cr8f]

Chris Draft says he's moving to Morgan's old spot.

Could mean Seward is dropped to backup/special teams with Diggs returning to WLB.

Chris Draft just shrugged. Switching positions is nothing new for him. The Panthers' versatile backup, who started the last two weeks at weakside linebacker, said he was moving inside again as the Panthers try to find a combination of linebackers that work.

If he starts there this week, it would mean second-year linebacker Adam Seward returns to his backup/special teams role. That would also likely signal a return to the weakside starting job for Na'il Diggs, who won the job in training camp, missed the opener with a knee injury and played as a reserve and on special teams, although the Panthers have more options there.

Seward has looked good against the run in two games, but has struggled on passing downs with coverage assignments.

That is what it mewans. They liked him at run support but not the pass.Draft started the last 2 games last season and 5/2 and 6/2 with 1 sack.

 

[pretender]

Chris Draft says he's moving to Morgan's old spot.

Could mean Seward is dropped to backup/special teams with Diggs returning to WLB.

Chris Draft just shrugged. Switching positions is nothing new for him. The Panthers' versatile backup, who started the last two weeks at weakside linebacker, said he was moving inside again as the Panthers try to find a combination of linebackers that work.

If he starts there this week, it would mean second-year linebacker Adam Seward returns to his backup/special teams role. That would also likely signal a return to the weakside starting job for Na'il Diggs, who won the job in training camp, missed the opener with a knee injury and played as a reserve and on special teams, although the Panthers have more options there.

Seward has looked good against the run in two games, but has struggled on passing downs with coverage assignments.

That is what it mewans. They liked him at run support but not the pass.Draft started the last 2 games last season and 5/2 and 6/2 with 1 sack.

Bump - anything out of Carolina more about whether Seward or Daft is starting?

 

[Chaos Commish]

link

MAN IN THE MIDDLE: Veteran Chris Draft, who had been playing weakside linebacker, is expected to start at middle linebacker against Tampa Bay over second-year player Adam Seward. The latter had been filling in for Morgan.

"Tampa Bay does a lot of movement and shifting, and Chris is a veteran guy that's done that for us before," Fox said. "We just think that right now this gives us our best option. And we've got Na'il Diggs back and healthy."

He's starting.

 

[pretender]

link

MAN IN THE MIDDLE: Veteran Chris Draft, who had been playing weakside linebacker, is expected to start at middle linebacker against Tampa Bay over second-year player Adam Seward. The latter had been filling in for Morgan.

"Tampa Bay does a lot of movement and shifting, and Chris is a veteran guy that's done that for us before," Fox said. "We just think that right now this gives us our best option. And we've got Na'il Diggs back and healthy."

He's starting.

Thanks - is Seward droppable in your opinion?

 

[Chaos Commish]

Thanks - is Seward droppable in your opinion?

I'm not positive. You may want to hold him a week and see how this plays out. It's probably safe to drop him.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Thanks - is Seward droppable in your opinion?

I'm not positive. You may want to hold him a week and see how this plays out. It's probably safe to drop him.

Yeah, I think it's safe. Although I was never on the Seward bandwagon, going from coach's pet to backup to Chris Draft in 6 quarters is about as telling as it gets.

 

[cracKer]

I'm not sure what to think about Chris Draft right now. I guess we'll take a wait and see approach, but he could have some serious value if Morgan is put on the shelf and it'd be nice to jump in ahead of the pack.

Draft's breakout season came in 2003 as an ILB in Atlanta's 3-4 defense when he hung pretty tight with Keith Brooking in terms of fantasy value (102 solo tackles, 3 sacks, 1 interception). After realizing that they didn't have the personnel up front to succeed with a 3-4, they went back to a 4-3 in 2004 with Draft as their starting middle linebacker (Brooking at WLB). He failed hard and has been a fantasy afterthought ever since.

I've picked him up in a deep league where I needed the LB help and I plan on starting him this week, but I'm not very optimistic.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I'm not sure what to think about Chris Draft right now.I've picked him up in a deep league where I needed the LB help and I plan on starting him this week, but I'm not very optimistic.

I dropped him getting down to 53 in Z30. I just double checked to make sure you didn't nab him there. I need some depth at LB but I'm with you here. I'm not sure what to think. He was solid on the inside once before. I guess this weekend's performance will tell us more, but I'd have rather been ahead of the stampede to add him should he do well.

 

[cracKer]

I'm not sure what to think about Chris Draft right now.I've picked him up in a deep league where I needed the LB help and I plan on starting him this week, but I'm not very optimistic.

I dropped him getting down to 53 in Z30. I just double checked to make sure you didn't nab him there. I need some depth at LB but I'm with you here. I'm not sure what to think. He was solid on the inside once before. I guess this weekend's performance will tell us more, but I'd have rather been ahead of the stampede to add him should he do well.

My LB depth is solid in Zealots. It's another league where I now get to choose between Draft, Scott Shanle and Chaun Thompson on a weekly basis as my #3/4