Dare Ogunbowale (1 Viewer)

[Interseptopus]

Just dropped Ajayi for him in my main league. This guy was picked up by the Bruce Arian’s regime, right?

No. Signed in 2018

 

[Interseptopus]

 Looks like he has passed Ellington on the depth chart.

 The second quote is from me. I do not know why it wrapped it up inside the first quote. LOL 

This is why I was/am high on him. 

He has to pass Barber who is uninspiring and JAG, and Jones who has been even worse than Barber and doesnt factor in on pass pro/receiving plays

Dare reminds me of Corey Clement, but hes in an offense that'll actually use his strengths

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This is why I was/am high on him. 

He has to pass Barber who is uninspiring and JAG, and Jones who has been even worse than Barber and doesnt factor in on pass pro/receiving plays

Dare reminds me of Corey Clement, but hes in an offense that'll actually use his strengths

 And I still agree with the first part, but disagree with the second. I don’t think you can fairly say he is better than  Jones, based on the small sample size /  usage. 

 For now he has low and flex appeal as a receiving back on a team that will probably be throwing a lot. 

 That said, I think there’s still room for Jones to beat out barber to turn this into a reasonable backfield for fantasy value. 

 I think we’re completely in agreement the barber is trash 

 

[Ilov80s]

I am looking at end of bench guys. Where do you think he ranks among guys who might hold your last roster spot?

2nd QB like Darnold, Allen, Carr?

Other lotto backs like Damien Harris, Malcolm Brown, Crockett, Ito Smith?

Young WRs like the Baltimore rookies, Tre'quan Smith, Deebo?

 

[Interseptopus]

 I don’t think you can fairly say he is better than  Jones, based on the small sample size /  usage. 

I can admit the sample size is low, but he has out performed Jones in 2018 and 2019 so far. Heck Guice out performed Jones in the 2nd half of 2018...

I am looking at end of bench guys. Where do you think he ranks among guys who might hold your last roster spot?

2nd QB like Darnold, Allen, Carr?

Other lotto backs like Damien Harris, Malcolm Brown, Crockett, Ito Smith?

Young WRs like the Baltimore rookies, Tre'quan Smith, Deebo?

I am not a big fan of Smith (many would disagree; imo Hill is the guy to own) or Brown. I'd put him on the same level as Crockett. if I had to decide between the two I'd probably say Crockett is the better rb, but Dare might be the better ppr fantasy back. I'd have a hard time choosing. I'd probably take Dare if I had to. But that's probably biased due to our histories.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I am looking at end of bench guys. Where do you think he ranks among guys who might hold your last roster spot?

2nd QB like Darnold, Allen, Carr?

Other lotto backs like Damien Harris, Malcolm Brown, Crockett, Ito Smith?

Young WRs like the Baltimore rookies, Tre'quan Smith, Deebo?

I never puny on a QB2, so that’s out for me. 

Hes behind Tre’quan - I could see him being a lotto ticket to cash this year. 

Probably behind Deebo too. 

He’s ahead of Ito IMO. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I am not a big fan of Smith (many would disagree; imo Hill is the guy to own) 

I agree 100% 

ito has reportedly been outplayed by both Hill & Ollison. Ollison is already being considered the short yardage / GL back. 

 

[Banger]

I really want to believe but what’s the realistic opportunity if he ascends to a time share with RoJo or Barber?  Mike Davis production?

 

[Capella]

My condolences.

At least you’ll always have the Chucky years (Gruden should send Tony Dungy a fruit basket every year for putting that team together) 

There are worse teams to suffer through. At least we have one super bowl and a historic defense. Guess I’ll have to just settle for that, but it could be worse. 

 

[Elevencents]

I really want to believe but what’s the realistic opportunity if he ascends to a time share with RoJo or Barber?  Mike Davis production?

If he is gonna be the dink and dunk guy with TB playing from behind a lot he could realistically put up 60+ receptions. 

 

[SpruceGoose]

I really want to believe but what’s the realistic opportunity if he ascends to a time share with RoJo or Barber?  Mike Davis production?

youre getting him at the end of the draft (people had no idea who he was when I said his name in my home draft)...

...why not give it a shot? 

 

[zamboni]

Nothing to do with Dare himself, but didn't realize that this was his sister.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Nothing to do with Dare himself, but didn't realize that this was his sister.

Yeah - when I was researching him, one writer said he may not be the best athlete in his family. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yep - RBBC from hell. 

Unless one somehow outperforms the others behind that raggedy OL, I’d expect this backfield to be a fantasy wasteland all year again. 

But it’s possible one shines & Arians commits. 

Unlikely, but possible. 

Shockingly Dare may be the best bet for points but only on PPR as a weekly dart throw flex at best. And that’s IF Ellington doesn’t make the 53, which I’ve not heard is happening yet. 

Time will tell - maybe one of Barber or RoJo busts a couple big runs. 

The Tampa Bay Times’ Rick Stroud believes coach Bruce Arians will go with the "hot hand" between Peyton Barber and Ronald Jones in Week 1.

Barber is expected to start. We also expect Dare Ogunbowale to be involved, particularly on passing downs. All three backs carry low floors in an offense that hasn't demonstrated the ability to foster a fantasy-friendly rushing attack in quite some time. It wouldn't be shocking at all to see Tampa Bay sign an additional running back after final cuts.

 

[zamboni]

What’s Chris Johnson up to these days?

 

[Interseptopus]

Yep - RBBC from hell. 

Unless one somehow outperforms the others behind that raggedy OL, I’d expect this backfield to be a fantasy wasteland all year again. 

But it’s possible one shines & Arians commits. 

Unlikely, but possible. 

Shockingly Dare may be the best bet for points but only on PPR as a weekly dart throw flex at best. And that’s IF Ellington doesn’t make the 53, which I’ve not heard is happening yet. 

Time will tell - maybe one of Barber or RoJo busts a couple big runs. 

now you get it 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

now you get it 

Oh, I got it the whole time. It’s a mess.

if Ellington gets cut I’ll feel better about taking up a roster spot with Dare. 

 

 

[Capella]

Oh, I got it the whole time. It’s a mess.

if Ellington gets cut I’ll feel better about taking up a roster spot with Dare. 

 

I think Ellington is the clear #4. Barring injuries I’d be surprised if he’s involved at all. May even be cut. 

 

[Capella]

He's there because he knows how to go through the practices and run Arians plays. Invaluable.

For sure, but that doesn’t get you on the field come Sundays. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think Ellington is the clear #4. Barring injuries I’d be surprised if he’s involved at all. May even be cut. 

I agree.

but....

he also goes way back with Arians. 

So if/when that happens, I’ll adjust my outlook. 

For now it’s still kind of a mess, albeit, a mess with some PPR upside.  

 

[ILUVBEER99]

i would agree with you about concern over Howard's utiliization. the line is so bad that he's going to be needed to block more than expected. he's going to be an afterthought in passing.

great point.  Howard being a great blocker could screw him for FF.  The TB line is horrible so i fear they may use Howard as a blocker a lot.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

great point.  Howard being a great blocker could screw him for FF.  The TB line is horrible so i fear they may use Howard as a blocker a lot.

Plus Brate is still there, too. He always seems to get the inconvenient TD or big day right when you need OJ. 

Signed,

former OJ Howard team-owner. 

 

[dickey moe]

What’s Chris Johnson up to these days?

Damn. Haven't even thought about him for a few years. Time flies.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

And there it is - Bucs just cut Ellington.

glad I’ve got Dare in dynasty & my large roster redraft - Flex-worthy now. 

I know @Dr. Dan‘s pickle is dancing. 

 

[Insein]

Grabbed him late. Also took Barber in like the 9th. Sure why not.

 

[Interseptopus]

And there it is - Bucs just cut Ellington.

glad I’ve got Dare in dynasty & my large roster redraft - Flex-worthy now. 

I know @Dr. Dan‘s pickle is dancing. 

Someone will have value in that backfield. 

Hilltop on top! 

 

[Mario Kart]

I've met him and he is built like a rock. His sister and him always are one upping each other. His sister is a few steps ahead of him at this point in time though. Something that is not reported is how intelligent he is. He's a smart kid.

 

[Iceman03]

Named a team captain... is this for Special Teams? https://twitter.com/nflstroud/status/1169297082634702848?s=21

 

[Scooby1974]

Named a team captain... is this for Special Teams? https://twitter.com/nflstroud/status/1169297082634702848?s=21

Would TB name Dare a captain if he's destined to barely hit the field? Seems he'd need to be respected as well...

 

[shadyridr]

Would TB name Dare a captain if he's destined to barely hit the field? Seems he'd need to be respected as well...

Like Winston?

 

[Scooby1974]

Like Winston?

Well, Winston's position comes with power...perhaps in spite of respect?

 

[lardonastick]

Named a team captain... is this for Special Teams? https://twitter.com/nflstroud/status/1169297082634702

Sounds like it.

https://twitter.com/gregauman/status/1169297150859259904?s=19

Arians announces six Bucs captains for the 2019 season: Jameis Winston, Mike Evans and Ali Marpet on offense, Lavonte David and Carl Nassib on defense, and Dare Ogunbowale on special teams.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Spent a good chunk of my BB$ on him in my dynasty leagues. These are 14 teamers with decently deep rosters with taxi squads, but there hadn't been a waiver run in a while and he was by far the most intriguing guy left. I have found in my leagues that using my money decisively early on for a guy everyone wants is more efficient than holding it hoping a guy comes out of nowhere later in the season. We also have free FCFS after waiver run every week, so doing your homework can get you a lot of freebies on the ww as long as you grab them before they actually break out in-season. That always makes me feel more comfortable blowing my BB$ early on. I rarely make it into week 1 with much money left. 

 

[Dark Matter]

 All Aboard!! 

 

[kittenmittens]

I love that Payton Barber is a total JAG who everyone hates, but Ogunbawale is now the hot pickup with his inferior athletic profile to Barber.  Barber is bigger and has more burst, and he's also the starter. 

They are both slow, Barber is bigger though so he is technically faster when you adjust for size. 

 

[kittenmittens]

I've met him and he is built like a rock. His sister and him always are one upping each other. His sister is a few steps ahead of him at this point in time though. Something that is not reported is how intelligent he is. He's a smart kid.

He's an awesome kid by all accounts. 

 

[SoBeDad]

I love that Payton Barber is a total JAG who everyone hates, but Ogunbawale is now the hot pickup with his inferior athletic profile to Barber.  Barber is bigger and has more burst, and he's also the starter. 

They are both slow, Barber is bigger though so he is technically faster when you adjust for size. 

Barber averaged a league worst 3.2 yards per pass play in 2018, per FFI.  Dare looked fast and decisive on 2 pass receptions in the preseason game against Miami. Let's see how Arians uses him.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I love that Payton Barber is a total JAG who everyone hates, but Ogunbawale is now the hot pickup with his inferior athletic profile to Barber.  Barber is bigger and has more burst, and he's also the starter. 

They are both slow, Barber is bigger though so he is technically faster when you adjust for size. 

We’ve seen what Barber can do

Some of us would like to stash someone else at the end of our bench to see what they can do

 

[kittenmittens]

Barber averaged a league worst 3.2 yards per pass play in 2018, per FFI.  Dare looked fast and decisive on 2 pass receptions in the preseason game against Miami. Let's see how Arians uses him.

In a different offensive system. 

We’ve seen what Barber can do

Some of us would like to stash someone else at the end of our bench to see what they can do

Have we seen what he can do in Arians' offense?  

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Have we seen what he can do in Arians' offense?  

No

Theyre both dice rolls at this point. Who really cares?

 

[shadyridr]

I love that Payton Barber is a total JAG who everyone hates, but Ogunbawale is now the hot pickup with his inferior athletic profile to Barber.  Barber is bigger and has more burst, and he's also the starter. 

They are both slow, Barber is bigger though so he is technically faster when you adjust for size. 

One was a 8/9 round pick. The other was a last round pick or available for free. 

 

[kittenmittens]

No

Theyre both dice rolls at this point. Who really cares?

Totally agree.  I was just getting annoyed by the recent "expert" analysis drooling over Ogunbawale while totally dismissing Barber and wanted to rant that Barber is actually less of JAG per athletic profile. 

 

[kittenmittens]

One was a 8/9 round pick. The other was a last round pick or available for free. 

Good point, I was thinking more through the dynasty lens. 

 

[BINGBING]

So maybe Dare is a young, fresh legged version of Barber?  Hello yes i'll take Dare for free off the waiver wire everywhere in dynasty for a quick flip for any 2020 pick at worst.

 

[modogg]

I am looking at end of bench guys. Where do you think he ranks among guys who might hold your last roster spot?

2nd QB like Darnold, Allen, Carr?

Other lotto backs like Damien Harris, Malcolm Brown, Crockett, Ito Smith?

Young WRs like the Baltimore rookies, Tre'quan Smith, Deebo?

i dropped Ronald Jones for him. i would take him over all those RBs

 

[kittenmittens]

So maybe Dare is a young, fresh legged version of Barber?  Hello yes i'll take Dare for free off the waiver wire everywhere in dynasty for a quick flip for any 2020 pick at worst.

2 months younger.   I'd agree if I thought there would be buyers on that. 

Maybe he will get a shot though and somebody will bite. He's getting hype all over the articles and podcasts now. 

 

[BINGBING]

2 months younger.   I'd agree if I thought there would be buyers on that. 

Maybe he will get a shot though and somebody will bite. He's getting hype all over the articles and podcasts now. 

Never claimed I thought he had any value, but people are so out on the TB running that they will jump on any glimmer of hope.  Notice I said it's a flip, and yes he is way younger by NFL mileage than Barber is.

 

[Smack Tripper]

2 months younger.   I'd agree if I thought there would be buyers on that. 

Maybe he will get a shot though and somebody will bite. He's getting hype all over the articles and podcasts now. 

We know Barber is pedestrian and largely what he is.  I won't say he stinks, he's a competent football player but why not roll the dice on the devil you don't know?

 

[BINGBING]

We know Barber is pedestrian and largely what he is.  I won't say he stinks, he's a competent football player but why not roll the dice on the devil you don't know?

Why do you want to miss on that Barber low RB3 ceiling, bruh?  The comma before "bruh" was the classy, yet sarcastic touch.  It really put it over the top.  5/5

Edit:  I don't own Dare in any leagues BTW, but the flip for a 2020 pick is a must in startups where waivers are still locked for me.

 

[zamboni]

Jones showing a pulse yesterday, plus no carries, didn't help Dare's chances at making an impact. I think he's a reasonable drop for one of the week 1 upstarts.