Darren Sproles Thread (1 Viewer)

[lsutigers]

I wonder if they end up trading Brown now and rolling with McCoy, Polk and Sproles?

 

[coolnerd]

I wonder if they end up trading Brown now and rolling with McCoy, Polk and Sproles?

I don't see the "why" in trading Brown. he is not expensive and probably can step into the lead RB role(if McCoy is injured) with Sproles doing what he always does.

 

[Amused to Death]

I wonder if they end up trading Brown now and rolling with McCoy, Polk and Sproles?

I don't see the "why" in trading Brown. he is not expensive and probably can step into the lead RB role(if McCoy is injured) with Sproles doing what he always does.

Many around the Eagles feel Brown could be on his way out, even before the Sproles trade.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

I wonder if they end up trading Brown now and rolling with McCoy, Polk and Sproles?

I don't see the "why" in trading Brown. he is not expensive and probably can step into the lead RB role(if McCoy is injured) with Sproles doing what he always does.

Many around the Eagles feel Brown could be on his way out, even before the Sproles trade.

Yeah and they just gave up a draft pick in a very-deeply talented draft.

I'm sure they'd want to get that pick back.

Also just saw this:

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Randall Liu‏@RLiuNFL52 mins

Since 2011, only 2 @NFL RBs have 150+ catches & 8+ rec TDs: Darren Sproles & LeSean McCoy. #Eagles

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For Chip to trade for Sproles when he had LeSean and Brown when LeSean is the starter makes Brown expendable and if he can get that pick back I'm sure he'd love to.

 

[Faust]

Darren Sproles traded to Philadelphia EaglesBy Dan Hanzus

Around the League Writer

Darren Sproles is on the move.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday that the New Orleans Saints have traded the versatile running back to Philadelphia, according to a source familiar with the deal. The Eagles later confirmed the trade.

The Saints received the Eagles' fifth-round pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, per Rapoport. The fifth-rounder in question is the pick Philadelphia received when they traded Isaac Sopoaga last year to the Patriots.

The Eagles take on the final year and $3.5 million remaining on Sproles' deal.

The move ends nearly two weeks of speculation about the future of Sproles, who has spent the last three seasons with in New Orleans. He now joins another dynamic offense in Philadelphia, where his skill-set as a pass-catcher out of the backfield should make him a perfect fit for Chip Kelly.

Sproles, 30, finished last season with 43 carries for 220 yards and 71 receptions for 604 yards. He had four total touchdowns. In addition to a prominent role on offense, Sproles will likely become the Eagles' return man -- a position that's been a trouble spot for the team in recent years.

The acquisition also allows Kelly to ease the workload of LeSean McCoy, the reigning NFL rushing champion who was second in the league with 890 snaps.

The Washington Redskins reportedly were also interested in Sproles, but the Eagles got the deal done. The defending NFC East champions just got better.

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[Banger]

biggest winners are the Eagles/Foles, losers are McCoy / Sproles.

 

[Faust]

Bucky Brooks ‏@BuckyBrooks 35s

I believe Sproles is an ideal fit in @Eagles offense. He will make it hard for teams to use Cover 1 (man-free) because he owns LBs in space

 

[Timmay]

Sproles, McCoy, Desean, Maclin and Cooper all possibly being on the field at once, that is a lot of speed. Defenses might always have to play in Dime packages.

 

[Terpman22]

biggest winners are the Eagles/Foles, losers are McCoy / Sproles.

Biggest winners are those that will get McCoy at a later draft position due to this.

 

[Banger]

biggest winners are the Eagles/Foles, losers are McCoy / Sproles.

Biggest winners are those that will get McCoy at a later draft position due to this.

I don't know how this doesn't cut into touches. McCoy will still be a great option but will likely get fewer touches at the end of the day. I guess compared to Charles who lost 3/5 of his line, the impact to him among the top tier backs, is more of a negative than Sproles is to McCoy.

 

[KellysHeroes]

moving on from the Saints was going to e a downgrade but this makes him still usable IMO

 

[Faust]

Sproles makes Eagles more dangerous

 

[humpback]

Sproles and McCoy owners both not happy at this news I would imagine.

Yeah I would think both kind of take a hit since they are the same type of guy. Obviously McCoy is the better rusher, but Sproles will eat into his receptions and vice versa.

McCoy and Sproles are same guy?

McCoy 314/1607/9 and 52/539/2 5'11", 208

Sproles 53/220/2 and 71/604/2 and is 5'6", 190

I can see how you think they are the same guy.

Sproles will do what he does and catch passes, McCoy will do that in a way lesser roll and still push for 300 carries. I would be happy if I am a Sproles owner not so much if you are a McCoy owner.

Source: Saints receive the 2014 5th round pick New England sent for Isaac Sopoaga in exchange for RB Sproles.

Not necessarily the same, but both can catch passes out of the backfield and are dangerous in space. Think it cuts into McCoy's reception totals for sure. Does it really increase anything for Sproles? The Eagles like to run the ball more than NO did. Might change a bit, but Sproles won't see many carries and would they take out McCoy on 3rd downs?

I dont think it increases any value for Sproles, but it keeps him at the same level he was at in NO instead of going to the Vikings or some mess like that to lower his value. The reason the Saints did not run a lot is because the short passes to Sproles are like runs.

If they don't plan on using him to run or spell McCoy on 3rd downs, why did they trade a 5th for him? lol I dont understand some logic of some holding out hope this doesn't hurt McCoys value. It clearly does. DJax is hurt in this too as well as any other Eagles pass catcher.

Mike Sando, ESPN.com ‏@SandoESPN 1m
. @DarrenSproles turns 31 in June but has only 919 career offensive touches, counting playoffs. 48 RBs have more since '05 (@sj39 2,840).

There's nothing "clear" about it right now.

 

[FUBAR]

biggest winners are the Eagles/Foles, losers are McCoy / Sproles.

Biggest winners are those that will get McCoy at a later draft position due to this.

I don't know how this doesn't cut into touches. McCoy will still be a great option but will likely get fewer touches at the end of the day. I guess compared to Charles who lost 3/5 of his line, the impact to him among the top tier backs, is more of a negative than Sproles is to McCoy.

How far could McCoy fall? He's going to be a top 3 pick in most leagues anyway. Maybe Peterson goes 1.01 now? But he's getting older. Charles as you state has other issues, McCoy may lose touches but he's still more likely to finish in the top 5 than any other RB IMO.

 

[cstu]

Much ado about nothing for McCoy IMO. He had less carries in 2011 and scored just as many fantasy points as last year. Maybe the gap between him and other RB's shrinks but he's still likely to get 300 FP's in PPR to finish top 5.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I had Mcoy / Peterson as 1a & b with Charles right behind. I would move Peterson up to 1 (redraft ofcourse)

 

[Nucker101]

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[Amused to Death]

biggest winners are the Eagles/Foles, losers are McCoy / Sproles.

Biggest winners are those that will get McCoy at a later draft position due to this.

I don't know how this doesn't cut into touches. McCoy will still be a great option but will likely get fewer touches at the end of the day. I guess compared to Charles who lost 3/5 of his line, the impact to him among the top tier backs, is more of a negative than Sproles is to McCoy.

How far could McCoy fall? He's going to be a top 3 pick in most leagues anyway. Maybe Peterson goes 1.01 now? But he's getting older. Charles as you state has other issues, McCoy may lose touches but he's still more likely to finish in the top 5 than any other RB IMO.

Not to mention Reid's already said Charles may lose some touches to Davis this year. So yeah, Charles has his own issues.

 

[False Start]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most likely not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

 

[Amused to Death]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

Of course Sproles will impact McCoy's numbers. To what degree? This trade impacts the entire Eagles offense. Do you think all of Sproles production will come at McCoy's expense? Of course not. Sproles was also picked up for the return game (widely speculated). The Eagles are loaded with offensive talent right now. No one knows how all the touches will shake out. But don't think McCoy isn't the most talented piece to the offense. He is and will continue to get the bulk of the work.

 

[False Start]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

Of course Sproles will impact McCoy's numbers. To what degree? This trade impacts the entire Eagles offense. Do you think all of Sproles production will come at McCoy's expense? Of course not. Sproles was also picked up for the return game (widely speculated). The Eagles are loaded with offensive talent right now. No one knows how all the touches will shake out. But don't think McCoy isn't the most talented piece to the offense. He is and will continue to get the bulk of the work.

I will never dispute that in any way, my point is simple Sproles will get his as he always has while McCoy will still be a beast. But McCoy will lose receptions and those are valuable points in PPR. Losing 20 catches is losing 20 points.

 

[cstu]

McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy.

He's never been the #1 RB in fantasy.

 

[Amused to Death]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

Of course Sproles will impact McCoy's numbers. To what degree? This trade impacts the entire Eagles offense. Do you think all of Sproles production will come at McCoy's expense? Of course not. Sproles was also picked up for the return game (widely speculated). The Eagles are loaded with offensive talent right now. No one knows how all the touches will shake out. But don't think McCoy isn't the most talented piece to the offense. He is and will continue to get the bulk of the work.

I will never dispute that in any way, my point is simple Sproles will get his as he always has while McCoy will still be a beast. But McCoy will lose receptions and those are valuable points in PPR. Losing 20 catches is losing 20 points.

True. But who knows, maybe he'll lose 20 catches but gain 3 TDs due to a more potent offense. We just don't know right now. Sproles is a nice addition to the Eagles, and they will definitely be fun to watch.

 

[babydemon90]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans,

So, we should project McCoy's receptions at - what, say about similar to Pierre Thomas's ?

 

[Banger]

biggest winners are the Eagles/Foles, losers are McCoy / Sproles.

Biggest winners are those that will get McCoy at a later draft position due to this.

I don't know how this doesn't cut into touches. McCoy will still be a great option but will likely get fewer touches at the end of the day. I guess compared to Charles who lost 3/5 of his line, the impact to him among the top tier backs, is more of a negative than Sproles is to McCoy.

How far could McCoy fall? He's going to be a top 3 pick in most leagues anyway. Maybe Peterson goes 1.01 now? But he's getting older. Charles as you state has other issues, McCoy may lose touches but he's still more likely to finish in the top 5 than any other RB IMO.

agreed...it's more like the gap closes a bit with those underneath him.

 

[False Start]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans,

So, we should project McCoy's receptions at - what, say about similar to Pierre Thomas's ?

Comparing production of the Saints backfield to the Eagles is mixing philosophies. I am looking at the type of player they gained in Sproles and what his skill set is and the logic that maybe they don't want McCoy handling it 366 times. Saints did a lot of screens and use the screen game as a run game. You may see more of that in Philly but simple logic says getting a guy at thr RB position who catches a lot of passes may have an impact on a guy who handles the pigskin almost 375 times.

 

[lsutigers]

So, we should project McCoy's receptions at - what, say about similar to Pierre Thomas's ?

*looks up PT 2013 reception total*

I see what you did there. . .

 

[False Start]

So, we should project McCoy's receptions at - what, say about similar to Pierre Thomas's ?

*looks up PT 2013 reception total*

I see what you did there. . .

Now look up how many carries he had and you will see my point on team philosophy.

 

[humpback]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

Of course Sproles will impact McCoy's numbers. To what degree? This trade impacts the entire Eagles offense. Do you think all of Sproles production will come at McCoy's expense? Of course not. Sproles was also picked up for the return game (widely speculated). The Eagles are loaded with offensive talent right now. No one knows how all the touches will shake out. But don't think McCoy isn't the most talented piece to the offense. He is and will continue to get the bulk of the work.

I will never dispute that in any way, my point is simple Sproles will get his as he always has while McCoy will still be a beast. But McCoy will lose receptions and those are valuable points in PPR. Losing 20 catches is losing 20 points.

True. But who knows, maybe he'll lose 20 catches but gain 3 TDs due to a more potent offense. We just don't know right now. Sproles is a nice addition to the Eagles, and they will definitely be fun to watch.

He does, obviously.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

biggest winners are the Eagles/Foles, losers are McCoy / Sproles.

Biggest winners are those that will get McCoy at a later draft position due to this.

Yep agree!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Sproles is going to be awesome with the Eagles and I for one am very happy the Saints won't face them in the RS, maybe the playoffs, but in any event I think all come away winners here.

 

[psychobillies]

I wish sproles the best and all, but his best years are clearly behind him. He still has something to offer, but to say he hasn't lost a step is simply not true. This is one of those things that we have to deal with because Brees got the monster contract. Still have to sign Graham and Jordan next year. I'd much rather have a premier safety than an aging part time running back.

 

[False Start]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

Of course Sproles will impact McCoy's numbers. To what degree? This trade impacts the entire Eagles offense. Do you think all of Sproles production will come at McCoy's expense? Of course not. Sproles was also picked up for the return game (widely speculated). The Eagles are loaded with offensive talent right now. No one knows how all the touches will shake out. But don't think McCoy isn't the most talented piece to the offense. He is and will continue to get the bulk of the work.

I will never dispute that in any way, my point is simple Sproles will get his as he always has while McCoy will still be a beast. But McCoy will lose receptions and those are valuable points in PPR. Losing 20 catches is losing 20 points.

True. But who knows, maybe he'll lose 20 catches but gain 3 TDs due to a more potent offense. We just don't know right now. Sproles is a nice addition to the Eagles, and they will definitely be fun to watch.

He does, obviously.

as always with your great discussion.

 

[humpback]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

Of course Sproles will impact McCoy's numbers. To what degree? This trade impacts the entire Eagles offense. Do you think all of Sproles production will come at McCoy's expense? Of course not. Sproles was also picked up for the return game (widely speculated). The Eagles are loaded with offensive talent right now. No one knows how all the touches will shake out. But don't think McCoy isn't the most talented piece to the offense. He is and will continue to get the bulk of the work.

I will never dispute that in any way, my point is simple Sproles will get his as he always has while McCoy will still be a beast. But McCoy will lose receptions and those are valuable points in PPR. Losing 20 catches is losing 20 points.

True. But who knows, maybe he'll lose 20 catches but gain 3 TDs due to a more potent offense. We just don't know right now. Sproles is a nice addition to the Eagles, and they will definitely be fun to watch.

He does, obviously.

as always with your great discussion.

Again, you're the one acting as if you know what's going to happen, and anyone who disagrees with your awful "analysis" doesn't know what they're talking about. The icing on the cake is how spectacularly wrong you've been about Sproles up until this point.

 

[ghostguy123]

Sproles value took a hit leaving new Orleans for sure.

He went to a team where he still has SOME value, but pretty sure he is going to be overvalued by people thinking he will catch 90 balls.

 

[Terpman22]

Per Schefter, signed a 2 year extension today.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most likely not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

I don't think Sproles will eat into McCoy's rushing touches. If anything, he'll take away Bryce Brown's carries. Sproles isn't really a great rushing threat.

As far as receiving goes, he might eat into some of McCoy's catches, as they may put Sproles in on 3rd and long situations. I think this move impacts Brown/Polk more than it does McCoy.

 

[False Start]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

Of course Sproles will impact McCoy's numbers. To what degree? This trade impacts the entire Eagles offense. Do you think all of Sproles production will come at McCoy's expense? Of course not. Sproles was also picked up for the return game (widely speculated). The Eagles are loaded with offensive talent right now. No one knows how all the touches will shake out. But don't think McCoy isn't the most talented piece to the offense. He is and will continue to get the bulk of the work.

I will never dispute that in any way, my point is simple Sproles will get his as he always has while McCoy will still be a beast. But McCoy will lose receptions and those are valuable points in PPR. Losing 20 catches is losing 20 points.

True. But who knows, maybe he'll lose 20 catches but gain 3 TDs due to a more potent offense. We just don't know right now. Sproles is a nice addition to the Eagles, and they will definitely be fun to watch.

He does, obviously.

as always with your great discussion.

Again, you're the one acting as if you know what's going to happen, and anyone who disagrees with your awful "analysis" doesn't know what they're talking about. The icing on the cake is how spectacularly wrong you've been about Sproles up until this point.

You are the one who went out of your way to post an instigating comment when everyone else is talking football. Let the hate on the internet rain my friend, if thats what you have to do. You seem like you get upset at others opinions.

His contract says he should be used a good bit.

Darren Sproles' new three-year contract with the Eagles is worth $10.5 million.

It's identical to the contracts recently signed by Shonn Greene, Donald Brown and Toby Gerhart. The problem is that Sproles is by far the oldest member of that group, as he'll turn 31 in June. Still, it's a significant pact, suggesting coach Chip Kelly has a clear-cut role planned for his new toy.

 

[humpback]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

Of course Sproles will impact McCoy's numbers. To what degree? This trade impacts the entire Eagles offense. Do you think all of Sproles production will come at McCoy's expense? Of course not. Sproles was also picked up for the return game (widely speculated). The Eagles are loaded with offensive talent right now. No one knows how all the touches will shake out. But don't think McCoy isn't the most talented piece to the offense. He is and will continue to get the bulk of the work.

I will never dispute that in any way, my point is simple Sproles will get his as he always has while McCoy will still be a beast. But McCoy will lose receptions and those are valuable points in PPR. Losing 20 catches is losing 20 points.

True. But who knows, maybe he'll lose 20 catches but gain 3 TDs due to a more potent offense. We just don't know right now. Sproles is a nice addition to the Eagles, and they will definitely be fun to watch.

He does, obviously.

as always with your great discussion.

Again, you're the one acting as if you know what's going to happen, and anyone who disagrees with your awful "analysis" doesn't know what they're talking about. The icing on the cake is how spectacularly wrong you've been about Sproles up until this point.

You are the one who went out of your way to post an instigating comment when everyone else is talking football. Let the hate on the internet rain my friend, if thats what you have to do. You seem like you get upset at others opinions.

His contract says he should be used a good bit.

Darren Sproles' new three-year contract with the Eagles is worth $10.5 million.

It's identical to the contracts recently signed by Shonn Greene, Donald Brown and Toby Gerhart. The problem is that Sproles is by far the oldest member of that group, as he'll turn 31 in June. Still, it's a significant pact, suggesting coach Chip Kelly has a clear-cut role planned for his new toy.

You're on your own bizarro island. You keep posting "lol's" at people for having a different opinion than yours, but I'm the one instigating things?

How about this- if you're actually interested in "talking football", stop with the condescending crap, especially when you've been so wrong so often.

 

[B-Deep]

biggest winners are the Eagles/Foles, losers are McCoy / Sproles.

Biggest winners are those that will get McCoy at a later draft position due to this.

I don't know how this doesn't cut into touches. McCoy will still be a great option but will likely get fewer touches at the end of the day. I guess compared to Charles who lost 3/5 of his line, the impact to him among the top tier backs, is more of a negative than Sproles is to McCoy.

his touches had to be cut into anyway if he is going to live, we just have a slightly better idea of how they may get cut down

the question is how much and how much does it hurt his fantasy production. I have no doubt he'll still be elite

 

[False Start]

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most certainly not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

Of course Sproles will impact McCoy's numbers. To what degree? This trade impacts the entire Eagles offense. Do you think all of Sproles production will come at McCoy's expense? Of course not. Sproles was also picked up for the return game (widely speculated). The Eagles are loaded with offensive talent right now. No one knows how all the touches will shake out. But don't think McCoy isn't the most talented piece to the offense. He is and will continue to get the bulk of the work.

I will never dispute that in any way, my point is simple Sproles will get his as he always has while McCoy will still be a beast. But McCoy will lose receptions and those are valuable points in PPR. Losing 20 catches is losing 20 points.

True. But who knows, maybe he'll lose 20 catches but gain 3 TDs due to a more potent offense. We just don't know right now. Sproles is a nice addition to the Eagles, and they will definitely be fun to watch.

He does, obviously.

as always with your great discussion.

Again, you're the one acting as if you know what's going to happen, and anyone who disagrees with your awful "analysis" doesn't know what they're talking about. The icing on the cake is how spectacularly wrong you've been about Sproles up until this point.

You are the one who went out of your way to post an instigating comment when everyone else is talking football. Let the hate on the internet rain my friend, if thats what you have to do. You seem like you get upset at others opinions.

His contract says he should be used a good bit.

Darren Sproles' new three-year contract with the Eagles is worth $10.5 million.

It's identical to the contracts recently signed by Shonn Greene, Donald Brown and Toby Gerhart. The problem is that Sproles is by far the oldest member of that group, as he'll turn 31 in June. Still, it's a significant pact, suggesting coach Chip Kelly has a clear-cut role planned for his new toy.

You're on your own bizarro island. You keep posting "lol's" at people for having a different opinion than yours, but I'm the one instigating things?

How about this- if you're actually interested in "talking football", stop with the condescending crap, especially when you've been so wrong so often.

People can clearly read the chain of comments/discussion. How many "lols" I supposedly posted (I see none, but you are in your own world anyways) and who is clearly being the instigator. Thanks for jumping in with your witty "He does, obviously" then tell me how I'm the instigator.

You are now officially on my ignore list, so reply to your hearts desire, do the same and ignore me so you dont have to see all of mt "lols" or whatever makes you so angry and so we do not knock this thread off track any more than we did with all this nonsense.

 

[Concept Coop]

Buy low on all 3; McCoy, Brown, Sproles.

 

[False Start]

Buy low on all 3; McCoy, Brown, Sproles.

I agree, but think Brown or Polk get the ship out of town after what they gave to Sproles. Sproles is clearly the #2 now.

 

[Concept Coop]

Buy low on all 3; McCoy, Brown, Sproles.

I agree, but think Brown or Polk get the ship out of town after what they gave to Sproles. Sproles is clearly the #2 now.

I didn't really think about Polk, but you could be right. Polk and Brown have too much potential to be fine sitting behind 3 other guys for 2-3 years. Philly could get a the 5th they paid for Sproles back by moving Brown; right?

 

[False Start]

Buy low on all 3; McCoy, Brown, Sproles.

I agree, but think Brown or Polk get the ship out of town after what they gave to Sproles. Sproles is clearly the #2 now.

I didn't really think about Polk, but you could be right. Polk and Brown have too much potential to be fine sitting behind 3 other guys for 2-3 years. Philly could get a the 5th they paid for Sproles back by moving Brown; right?

If not more since he is a tad bit younger and the dudes with youth and upside always seem to net more.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Buy low on all 3; McCoy, Brown, Sproles.

I agree, but think Brown or Polk get the ship out of town after what they gave to Sproles. Sproles is clearly the #2 now.

If by #2 you mean 2nd most valuable, then yes. If you mean #2 as in "guy who will get McCoy's touches if he gets hurt," then no. Sproles is unique, and his role will be, too. He won't be asked to handle a significant number of carries no matter what happens.

 

[humpback]

Here's a partial list of all of your douchy comments to various posters, just in this thread alone:

McCoy and Sproles are same guy?

McCoy 314/1607/9 and 52/539/2 5'11", 208

Sproles 53/220/2 and 71/604/2 and is 5'6", 190

I can see how you think they are the same guy.

Sproles will do what he does and catch passes, McCoy will do that in a way lesser roll and still push for 300 carries. I would be happy if I am a Sproles owner not so much if you are a McCoy owner.

Source: Saints receive the 2014 5th round pick New England sent for Isaac Sopoaga in exchange for RB Sproles.

Yes they traded a pick for a perennial PPR beast to have him just come in to spell McCoy. Maybe they are trying to lighten the load a bit for him. I expect a lot of two back sets on passing downs. Wait, but Sproles lost a step. So much so someone just traded for him. a lot of McCoy owners are going to be in denial about what Sproles can do for a while.

Michael Signora ‏@NFLfootballinfo 7m
Since 2009, Darren Sproles ranks 1st among RBs in rec yards & TD catches & ties for 1st in receptions

I dont think it increases any value for Sproles, but it keeps him at the same level he was at in NO instead of going to the Vikings or some mess like that to lower his value. The reason the Saints did not run a lot is because the short passes to Sproles are like runs.

If they don't plan on using him to run or spell McCoy on 3rd downs, why did they trade a 5th for him? lol I dont understand some logic of some holding out hope this doesn't hurt McCoys value. It clearly does. DJax is hurt in this too as well as any other Eagles pass catcher.

Mike Sando, ESPN.com ‏@SandoESPN 1m
. @DarrenSproles turns 31 in June but has only 919 career offensive touches, counting playoffs. 48 RBs have more since '05 (@sj39 2,840).

I love all the McCoy supporting thinking a guy who has caught 70+ balls the past couple years is not going to eat into McCoys production. Do you think Chip Kelly cares about your fantasy team and if McCoy gets his stats? No, he wants to win and while McCoy is a stud, Sproles has electric ability and is a playmaker, no one here will change my mind of that no matter what stats they show. Stop with this lost a step stuff, because professional coaches agree he is still worth a draft pick when it was clear he was going to be released. Sproles will do the same thing he did when he was in New Orleans, McCoy will still be elite, but he will most likely not be the #1 RB in fantasy. I see 30-40 catches for McCoy 60+ for Sproles and McCoy will still be the lead runner. Sproles will get more TDs then last year and Kelly is an expert at getting a lot of runners involved and producing a la Oregon.

McCoy 285/1400/8 and 35/290/2

Sproles 60/290/2 and 65/700/6

I like both runners at that production.

Again, extremely ironic considering how absurd most of your "analysis" is, like the gem about Sproles putting up the same numbers last year besides TDs so he obviously hasn't lost a step.

The fact remains that no one knows what impact this is going to have on McCoy for sure, but you're the one taking an absolutist stance that it has to hurt him (and everyone else who catches passes on the team), and criticizing those who say maybe it won't.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Get a room or take it to PMs guys. Geez.

 

[jurb26]

Do much for that hot Sproles market, eh.

 

[Short Corner]

Buy low on all 3; McCoy, Brown, Sproles.

I agree, but think Brown or Polk get the ship out of town after what they gave to Sproles. Sproles is clearly the #2 now.

I wouldn't call him a #2. They will be on the field together with some nice Chip Kelly formations/schemes-which also means that just because he gets a reception doesn't necessarily mean that McCoy loses one. That offense is going to be scary.