David Garrard waived by Jaguars, McCown to start Week One (1 Viewer)

[ponchsox]

I am not shocked here. The only thing that I find odd with this release is that it didn't occur on the cut down to 53. I expected it to happen then. I guess maybe that's why they took so long to announce their cuts the other day. There's a chance that they were trying to deal him. His salary is pretty high though and was probably a deal killer.As a Jaguars fan, I am not upset with this, at all. They are not going to be very good this year, with or without David Garrard, so they moved on with their rebuilding process. McCown will start for a while and Blaine Gabbert will eventually start sometime later in the year. There really is no point in keeping Garrard and his salary around. Having a rookie start for a portion of the year will probably buy Jack Del Rio another year.Oh, and Del Rio doesn't make personnel decisions. Although I sure he has some input, this is the work of Gene Smith.

When I watched the Patriots/Jags preseason game, I was wondering why Jacksonville passed on Ryan Mallett. He looks like a better pro QB and was drafted after Gabbert.

 

[mr roboto]

what are the best destinations for Garrard if he wants a good chance to start in 2011?

CincyIndy(?)MinAzSeaSF

Min only if McNabb gets hurt. Same with AZ probably. The rest, he's an upgrade tomorrow.

 

[Jayrod]

I wonder if Tennessee would sign him for a week?

Why?

Because they play each other in week 1 and I suspect Garrard may know a thing or two about the Jags game plan?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I wonder if Tennessee would sign him for a week?

To learn what? How to turn and hand it to MJD or check down to him?

 

[Jason Wood]

Reading the comments from Del Rio on the Jags website, this wasn't a salary move, and he won't be re-signing. JDR said they wanted to give Garrard every opportunity to earn the job but at the end of the day, he just didn't.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Oh boy. Now, THAT is a salary dump.

If they don't sign him, that locker room is going to be conpletely lost.

You obviously know the team better than I do, but I've never heard a single thing about Garrard not being well liked in the locker room. MJD has seemed like a big fan of his on Twitter. What have you heard specifically to name you think otherwise?I expect the opposite.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

what are the best destinations for Garrard if he wants a good chance to start in 2011?

SF Cincy or Seattle are the only possibilities if you count out the Colts.

Oakland, Miami, or Washington seem like options to me as well.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Reading the comments from Del Rio on the Jags website, this wasn't a salary move, and he won't be re-signing. JDR said they wanted to give Garrard every opportunity to earn the job but at the end of the day, he just didn't.

sounds like spin to me. why wait until now to make the move if it wasn't salary-driven?

 

[ponchsox]

It makes sense to wait before they cut him. First, what if they sustained an injury in the last preseason game or in practice? Second, a team like Indy or Tennessee can't scoop him up and learn their offensive playbook before the season starts.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I am not shocked here. The only thing that I find odd with this release is that it didn't occur on the cut down to 53. I expected it to happen then. I guess maybe that's why they took so long to announce their cuts the other day. There's a chance that they were trying to deal him. His salary is pretty high though and was probably a deal killer.As a Jaguars fan, I am not upset with this, at all. They are not going to be very good this year, with or without David Garrard, so they moved on with their rebuilding process. McCown will start for a while and Blaine Gabbert will eventually start sometime later in the year. There really is no point in keeping Garrard and his salary around. Having a rookie start for a portion of the year will probably buy Jack Del Rio another year.Oh, and Del Rio doesn't make personnel decisions. Although I sure he has some input, this is the work of Gene Smith.

When I watched the Patriots/Jags preseason game, I was wondering why Jacksonville passed on Ryan Mallett. He looks like a better pro QB and was drafted after Gabbert.

Maybe because they think Gabbert will be better?

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I still think Carolina is the best fit.

Cam is not ready for prime time. Garrard is the perfect stop-gap QB for Newton. Better than DA. Give Clausen his walking papers so that he can get a fair shot somewhere else.

 

[Ray_T]

I think they are obligated to place him on waivers first.

this way if another team is willing to pay his salary, then they get him and the player is not out any amount of cash.

 

[massraider]

I think they are obligated to place him on waivers first. this way if another team is willing to pay his salary, then they get him and the player is not out any amount of cash.

Formality. No one is gonna add an 8 mill salary right now.

 

[Run It Up]

Im not a Jaguar or Garrard fan, but im not happy they hung the dude out to dry. I really hope the Niners pick him up, hes an automatic starter in Sanfran.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I still think Carolina is the best fit.Cam is not ready for prime time. Garrard is the perfect stop-gap QB for Newton. Better than DA. Give Clausen his walking papers so that he can get a fair shot somewhere else.

Great fit for David who grew up in NC and played at ECU.Overall this move sucks and Gene Smith and Jack Del Rio look like clowns.

 

[houndirish]

Why is Washington not being mentioned as an option? The clearly have no qualms with handing over the reins at a moments notice.

 

[NeverEnough]

C'mon Miami!

 

[simey]

I still think Carolina is the best fit.Cam is not ready for prime time. Garrard is the perfect stop-gap QB for Newton. Better than DA. Give Clausen his walking papers so that he can get a fair shot somewhere else.

Well I guess fortunately for Cam, the Panthers have no prime time games this season. As a Panther fan I'm glad they are putting Cam in now so he can get some experience. They might not win many games this season, but to see the team improve as a unit will be a plus.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Why is Washington not being mentioned as an option? The clearly have no qualms with handing over the reins at a moments notice.

How do you figure? Despite being high on him, Shanahan didn't give Beck any playing time at the end of last year because he didn't know the offense well enough. When he played well in preseason, the incumbent, Grossman, won the job. He originally took over for McNabb because despite being a backup he knew the offense better. What part of any of this suggests that they "have no qualms handing over the reins at a moments notice"? Garrard doesn't know the offense, and isn't an upgrade over someone who does.

 

[misc]

Not cool, I have MJD, M. Thomas, and Lewis.

 

[Jason Wood]

Reading the comments from Del Rio on the Jags website, this wasn't a salary move, and he won't be re-signing. JDR said they wanted to give Garrard every opportunity to earn the job but at the end of the day, he just didn't.

sounds like spin to me. why wait until now to make the move if it wasn't salary-driven?

Because they didn't want Garrard to sign somewhere that could hurt them. I honestly don't see this as a huge surprise. The TIMING makes it surprising, but let's not forget several people close to the team, including Charlie Bernstein at Scout.com, said McCown could get the starting nod and Garrard his release as far back as late April, early May.It seemed like headline grabbing at the time, admittedly, but this was a case where the fire followed the smoke.I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

 

[Clifford]

And we thought the "crazy offseason" was over...

So probably going to dump Mike Thomas in the redraft league I have him in. Hello Denarius Moore.

 

[Wadsworth]

Reading the comments from Del Rio on the Jags website, this wasn't a salary move, and he won't be re-signing. JDR said they wanted to give Garrard every opportunity to earn the job but at the end of the day, he just didn't.

sounds like spin to me. why wait until now to make the move if it wasn't salary-driven?

Because they didn't want Garrard to sign somewhere that could hurt them. I honestly don't see this as a huge surprise. The TIMING makes it surprising, but let's not forget several people close to the team, including Charlie Bernstein at Scout.com, said McCown could get the starting nod and Garrard his release as far back as late April, early May.It seemed like headline grabbing at the time, admittedly, but this was a case where the fire followed the smoke.I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

Cutting Garrard and starting McCown has been discussed ad nauseum locally. This was not completely out of the blue except for the timing. I suspect they tried to trade him since Saturday and found no takers.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I still think Carolina is the best fit.Cam is not ready for prime time. Garrard is the perfect stop-gap QB for Newton. Better than DA. Give Clausen his walking papers so that he can get a fair shot somewhere else.

Well I guess fortunately for Cam, the Panthers have no prime time games this season. As a Panther fan I'm glad they are putting Cam in now so he can get some experience. They might not win many games this season, but to see the team improve as a unit will be a plus.

This team, and Cam, would get better faster without the pressure of Cam performing for Week 1, in my opinion. Cam would be better going the Aaron Rogers route to starting instead of the Matt Ryan route. Just my opinion.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

he threw and ran for 28 touchdowns combined last year in 14 games, and Gabbert is nowhere near being ready.

 

[mad sweeney]

Jaguars to Los Angeles

This was my second thought. My forst of course being, he's better than Tavaris...The Jags have tough competition to move here to La with the bankrupt city of San Diego sitting only 90 minutes away so i guess they needed to remind AEG that they need to get out of their city too.

 

[houndirish]

Why is Washington not being mentioned as an option? The clearly have no qualms with handing over the reins at a moments notice.

How do you figure? Despite being high on him, Shanahan didn't give Beck any playing time at the end of last year because he didn't know the offense well enough. When he played well in preseason, the incumbent, Grossman, won the job. He originally took over for McNabb because despite being a backup he knew the offense better. What part of any of this suggests that they "have no qualms handing over the reins at a moments notice"? Garrard doesn't know the offense, and isn't an upgrade over someone who does.

I think we see last years QB shuffle in DC differently. The team made headlines by bringing in McNabb, who was arguably the most talented QB the Skins had in years. Then they supplanted him with Grossman, who has never been the same caliber as D-Mac. The Shanahan's put a spin on it saying it had to do with knowing the playbook and the team moved on. Seemed rather abrupt to me and somewhat contrived. So I guess my notion is that if the Skins were willing to supplant a former Pro-Bowl QB they acquired via trade with a journeyman QB with a reputation for mediocrity then I guess I can see them bringing in Garrard 5 days before the opener. Apologize for the hijack.

 

[Jason Wood]

I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

he threw and ran for 28 touchdowns combined last year in 14 games, and Gabbert is nowhere near being ready.

And yet finished QB14, didn't get the endorsement from his owner or coach, and was given a tight leash when the team drafted the heir apparent. That should tell you something. I would say we'll look back and remember Garrard in the same way we remember Aaron Brooks -- one of the most egregious examples of where fantasy stats completely belied the real world skill and value ascribed to the player.

 

[Wadsworth]

Jaguars to Los Angeles

This was my second thought. My forst of course being, he's better than Tavaris...The Jags have tough competition to move here to La with the bankrupt city of San Diego sitting only 90 minutes away so i guess they needed to remind AEG that they need to get out of their city too.

This move actually makes it less likely that the Jags move anywhere. They have to prove 3 straight years of losing money to break their league, saving 8m+ certainly isn't going to help that.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

he threw and ran for 28 touchdowns combined last year in 14 games, and Gabbert is nowhere near being ready.

Good point Aaron, can't imagine he is without work for long. Too many teams need help and while he is not a long term solution he is better than what many teams have. i would like to see him on a team that had more talent around him. i think he can mange games and make a few plays here and there to get someone into the playoffs. That's hard to find in the NFL right now.

 

[Wadsworth]

I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

he threw and ran for 28 touchdowns combined last year in 14 games, and Gabbert is nowhere near being ready.

And yet finished QB14, didn't get the endorsement from his owner or coach, and was given a tight leash when the team drafted the heir apparent. That should tell you something. I would say we'll look back and remember Garrard in the same way we remember Aaron Brooks -- one of the most egregious examples of where fantasy stats completely belied the real world skill and value ascribed to the player.

I agree and strongly suspect the interest around the NFL is far less than many on here seem to believe. I'm sure David ends up somewhere but I doubt there's the flood of interest some seem to expect.

 

[Jason Wood]

I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

he threw and ran for 28 touchdowns combined last year in 14 games, and Gabbert is nowhere near being ready.

Good point Aaron, can't imagine he is without work for long. Too many teams need help and while he is not a long term solution he is better than what many teams have. i would like to see him on a team that had more talent around him. i think he can mange games and make a few plays here and there to get someone into the playoffs. That's hard to find in the NFL right now.

I agree with you and Aaron that he'll be snapped up QUICKLY, but that's not what was being discussed. The guy wasn't a consensus top 25 fantasy QB this year, in spite of those 28 TDs. Doesn't that say something?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

he threw and ran for 28 touchdowns combined last year in 14 games, and Gabbert is nowhere near being ready.

And yet finished QB14, didn't get the endorsement from his owner or coach, and was given a tight leash when the team drafted the heir apparent. That should tell you something. I would say we'll look back and remember Garrard in the same way we remember Aaron Brooks -- one of the most egregious examples of where fantasy stats completely belied the real world skill and value ascribed to the player.

props to those who saw this coming.I always thought he was a pretty good player who would play well enough to hold off Gabbert for at least this season, particularly with a coach who has been on the hot seat for years now it seems. I guess I didn't take McCown seriously enough as a threat here.he was ranked low b/c his #1 WR is Mike Thomas and there's not a whole lot else there, but I like his ability to make plays with his feet and run in a handful of touchdowns. I thought he was being seriously undervalued by most people. I can't see McCown or Gabbert being very successful with the same surrounding talent.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Either Seattle or Miami should already have him signed.

 

[Jason Wood]

I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

he threw and ran for 28 touchdowns combined last year in 14 games, and Gabbert is nowhere near being ready.

And yet finished QB14, didn't get the endorsement from his owner or coach, and was given a tight leash when the team drafted the heir apparent. That should tell you something. I would say we'll look back and remember Garrard in the same way we remember Aaron Brooks -- one of the most egregious examples of where fantasy stats completely belied the real world skill and value ascribed to the player.

props to those who saw this coming.I always thought he was a pretty good player who would play well enough to hold off Gabbert for at least this season, particularly with a coach who has been on the hot seat for years now it seems. I guess I didn't take McCown seriously enough as a threat here.he was ranked low b/c his #1 WR is Mike Thomas and there's not a whole lot else there, but I like his ability to make plays with his feet and run in a handful of touchdowns. I thought he was being seriously undervalued by most people. I can't see McCown or Gabbert being very successful with the same surrounding talent.

Don't get me wrong, I had him projected to start 10 games with Gabbert starting the other six. Just pointing out that this wasn't shocking, outside of the timing given all the talk locally earlier in the summer.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Don't get me wrong, I had him projected to start 10 games with Gabbert starting the other six. Just pointing out that this wasn't shocking, outside of the timing given all the talk locally earlier in the summer.

I didn't buy into that talk and figured this was going to be a redshirt year for Gabbert, which is probably why this comes as a surprise to me and many others.This team went out and spent some big money in free agency to upgrade the defense (Poz, Sessions, D.Landry) so I figured they were trying to win now. Garrard gives them the best chance to do that, IMO, so I thought his hold on the starting job was safer than many people thought.I was wrong I guess. But, it seems weird to question why people would think a QB who accounted for 28 TDs last year might be worth a look in fantasy leagues as a QB2.EDIT TO ADD:http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6936966/jacksonville-jaguars-release-david-garrard-days-opener

Since his breakout season of 2007, David Garrard ranks among the top half of all qualifying quarterbacks in completion percentage, yards per attempt, passing touchdowns and NFL passer rating.Garrard, NFL ranks since 2007 Rank*Comp pct. 62.7 12thYds/att 7.15 15thPass TD 71 15thNFL Passer rtg 88.0 11th

 

[Ray_T]

I just think it's kind of funny that people were actually counting on Garrard to help their fantasy teams this year. In 16-team leagues, I get it, but in 10- and 12-team leagues, he shouldn't have been rostered in the first place.

he threw and ran for 28 touchdowns combined last year in 14 games, and Gabbert is nowhere near being ready.

Good point Aaron, can't imagine he is without work for long. Too many teams need help and while he is not a long term solution he is better than what many teams have. i would like to see him on a team that had more talent around him. i think he can mange games and make a few plays here and there to get someone into the playoffs. That's hard to find in the NFL right now.

I agree with you and Aaron that he'll be snapped up QUICKLY, but that's not what was being discussed. The guy wasn't a consensus top 25 fantasy QB this year, in spite of those 28 TDs. Doesn't that say something?

I think it says Del Rio needs to lose his job. He keeps finding new scapegoats, and saves his job that way, but does not take responsibility himself.now he has no QB and no #1 WR. Maybe he cuts MJD next year. I hope he doesnt.... but things like this make a guy wonder.

 

[culdeus]

Best NFL career

Aaron Brooks

David Garrard

 

[r0llin_game]

Anyone think Tebow might soon be traded from Denver?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Anyone think Tebow might soon be traded from Denver?

Maybe, but not to Jacksonville. The same front office passed on a chance to draft Tebow and have now spent a 1st round pick on Gabbert.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Anyone think Tebow might soon be traded from Denver?

To the Jags, who just traded up to draft Gabbert? No. It would have worked if they didn't have Gabbert, though.

 

[Native]

Carson Palmer is all like "Why can't they do that to me?!"

 

[Mello]

Either Seattle or Miami should already have him signed.

Or San Fran. He's better than a few starters out there.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

According to Tania Ganguli of the Florida Times-Union, David Garrard's agent told her he's already been contacted by 3 teams.

He declined to say who and if one was in the division.





Not much real info there

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

According to Tania Ganguli of the Florida Times-Union, David Garrard's agent told her he's already been contacted by 3 teams.

I expect there to be interest in Garrard, but an agent claiming teams are contacting him about a player means absolutely nothing.

 

[Run It Up]

Either Seattle or Miami should already have him signed.

The Niners need a QB more than both those teams.

 

[Harjiran]

Either Seattle or Miami should already have him signed.

The Niners need a QB more than both those teams.

The Niners have Kaepernick on deck. No one needs a QB worse then Seattle, IMO. That is truly a dismal situation.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

According to Tania Ganguli of the Florida Times-Union, David Garrard's agent told her he's already been contacted by 3 teams.

I expect there to be interest in Garrard, but an agent claiming teams are contacting him about a player means absolutely nothing.

OK but when Gurode was cut by Dallas he did make it to the parking lot before his phone rang. It sounds like the receptionist in the Jags lobby had to stop Garrard on his way out with a short list of messages and phone numbers. I don't think his agent needs to drum up interest. Starting QB thru the entire preseason is cut and has a decent resume including a playoff win. It's fine to not like the guy but he is going to sign quickly with someone.

 

[Run It Up]

Either Seattle or Miami should already have him signed.

The Niners need a QB more than both those teams.

The Niners have Kaepernick on deck. No one needs a QB worse then Seattle, IMO. That is truly a dismal situation.

Just throw a rookie who throughout preseason showed that he isnt ready to play in the NFL over a veteran who is easily the best available QB. Even worse you have that rookie learning from Alex Smith :X

 

[gump]

McCown certainly flashed plenty of talent in Tampa. He can throw and run. His issues were mental...dumb decisions or late throws...normally in big moments.