ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
was this simply due to Giants dominating early and running the ball for much of the game? or was it scheme(more 3-4 possibly due to injuries upfront) related? or both?
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
No major scheme change that I noticed, but quite a bit more snaps than he's usually seen this year and a lot more tackle opportunity. I also thought it was his most consistent game in run support this season. He looked like the best Seattle linebacker again.
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Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
this is all just from vague memory --- I'll check the seahawks blog for verification, but I think the knock on him was that he was coming out in nickel, if I remember right, so he missed a lot of snaps.
I'd be surprised if the 'hawks were in nickel all that much this past week.
let me check............nevermind, I guess it's not there.
I'd be surprised if the 'hawks were in nickel all that much this past week.
let me check............nevermind, I guess it's not there.
GridironMenace
Footballguy
Jene, what's your best guess for Hawthorne productivity in 2011? Is Seattle going to realize that Hawthorne is better than Tatupu and allow Hawthorne to play the middle? If Hawthorne changes positions for next year, Hawthorne could be a fantastic buy low dynasty player right now.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Tatupu is a better fit inside than outside and he's signed long term. There's a chance that the Seahawks decide not to pay Tatupu next year (his contract goes up significantly) and cut him without penalty if there's an uncapped year, but I think it's unlikely. Tatupu doesn't rack up tackles but has remained a pretty solid run defender between the tackles. He just doesn't make many plays in pursuit or coverage any more.Hawthorne is an RFA next year. His importance to the Seahawks is really unknown. He more or less won the OLB job by default from Leroy Hill and they're not using him in the nickel packages. His value next year is tied to him signing and then earning more snaps. Right now, he's sort of stuck in that Derrick Johnson v2007-2009 kind of limbo. Plenty of talent, unclear opportunity.
GridironMenace
Footballguy
Nice wrap up. Thanks.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Another big week. That's 2 out of the last 3.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Pretty much what I was thinking too. Pondering waiver priority on he and Bentley. I think I'm leaning Hawthorne's way.
blend
Footballguy
I thought the same thing for Gerald Hayes this past week against KC and he was 4 and 2...
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Beware the backer who doesn't play in the nickel. There are days he'll rack up nine solos in only 30 snaps and days he'll put up just two or three despite 50+ snaps. When you leave 20-50 snaps on the table every week, you're risking too much. I think Hawthorne's matchup is as good as it gets for a base defensive linebacker this week, but make sure the reward outweighs the risk (i.e. the eight solo day will be much more helpful than the possible two solo day will hurt) before you use him.See also Dan Connor, Andra Davis, Joe Mays, Keith Rivers, Nic Harris, Takeo Spikes, Brandon Spikes, etc, etc.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
yeah, i believe his 2 big weeks came when they were getting stomped.
probably not much nickel goin' on in the second half of those games.
probably not much nickel goin' on in the second half of those games.
