***David Wilson Bandwagon*** (4 Viewers)

[TheFanatic]

And we're at 100!!!! WOOOHOOOO!!!!!

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Congrats on being the biggest Kool Aid fest, all hype no results bunch of FF owners ever?

 

[nobiz]

Anyone who claims Andre Brown is a better prospect than David Wilson is, himself, the i**** word.

Not sure what the curse word is that starts with i?

But yeah, I agree. David Wilson hasn't lived up to the hype, his potential, whatever everyone wants to call it this year. If he turns out fine and doesn't have anything career threatening, I'm still convinced he will be a top 10 fantasy back in the near future. As a Giants fan, I'm fine with them sitting him the rest of the year unless they miraculously make a comeback in their division and are somehow in the hunt for the playoffs. People easily forget how he looked at the end of last year. I'm not sure what they're excuses are for that. I think it's pretty clear what the excuse was the beginning of this year. Terrible team, terrible offensive line, always getting hit in the backfield, not being used properly (between the tackles, not in space). If he doesn't play another snap this year as a precaution and he's 100% going into next year, I wonder what his ADP will be.

People used the term "idiot" which I found abusive.

Wilson will drop a mile next year, and be a value/sleeper pick. The Giants still want to run the ball but people will note their weak line play and claim Andre "DL for Hangnail" Brown will vulture the goal-line work.

 

[TheFanatic]

Congrats on being the biggest Kool Aid fest, all hype no results bunch of FF owners ever?

I'd rather be that than a jackass. How about you?

 

[Routilla]

Congrats on being the biggest Kool Aid fest, all hype no results bunch of FF owners ever?

I'd rather be that than a jackass. How about you?

lmfao

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Congrats on being the biggest Kool Aid fest, all hype no results bunch of FF owners ever?

I'd rather be that than a jackass. How about you?

Oh the irony...

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Congrats on being the biggest Kool Aid fest, all hype no results bunch of FF owners ever?

Don't be rude.

 

[Interseptopus]

Congrats on being the biggest Kool Aid fest, all hype no results bunch of FF owners ever?

I'd rather be that than a jackass. How about you?

Oh the irony...

What a #### head

 

[Touchdown There]

That escalated quickly.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

 

[need2know]

How did this turd get 100 pages?

 

[fbelange]

For some weird reason.... I honestly think Wilson will be winning teams championship and playoff games later this year.

Just wait... the guy has top 10 talent just bad circumstances. Just wait just wait

 

[Touchdown There]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

I didn't realize that this is D Wilson's last year playing football. No chance Coughlin takes the training wheels off next year?

 

[tdhartis]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

I didn't realize that this is D Wilson's last year playing football. No chance Coughlin takes the training wheels off next year?

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

 

[Touchdown There]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

I didn't realize that this is D Wilson's last year playing football. No chance Coughlin takes the training wheels off next year?

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

And this is why we just hit 100 pages.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Congrats on being the biggest Kool Aid fest, all hype no results bunch of FF owners ever?

OH YEAH!!

 

[tdhartis]

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

And this is why we just hit 100 pages.

Because people inject some realistic opinion you don't agree with?

 

[MoveToSkypager]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

We can all find middle ground to joke about. Don't be mad on the internet.

 

[Pots]

But... he's Elite...

 

[Touchdown There]

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

And this is why we just hit 100 pages.

Because people inject some realistic opinion you don't agree with?

If you are arguing that Coughlin gave him a real shot, then I would argue that your definition of realistic sucks.

 

[nobiz]

Coughlin was neurotic early on- the Giants told everyone they were SB contenders when the reality was JPP wasn't healthy and Hakeem Nicks decided to mail it in. You can't lose 2 guys like that, and still have a patchwork secondary, and have an underperforming OL, and still be a contender. Throw in some bad bounces and you're suddenly 0-6. Wilson wasn't given the shot he needed- he's a unique talent who needs to play on a team that is committed to him and has the right blocking scheme. Warrick Dunn had this same issue, and was eventually successful.

 

[Rove!]

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

And this is why we just hit 100 pages.

Because people inject some realistic opinion you don't agree with?

If you are arguing that Coughlin gave him a real shot, then I would argue that your definition of realistic sucks.

I would argue that DWils inability to hit the ground running was a contributing factor to the Giants season cratering...

The offense looks a lot better with vets like BJac and Hillis back there...

 

[Cheesedawg]

100 PAGES!!!!

Alas, I've decided this is too much fun for me to cut Wilson now. New goal: Cut him on page 200!!!

 

[Khy]

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

And this is why we just hit 100 pages.

Because people inject some realistic opinion you don't agree with?

If you are arguing that Coughlin gave him a real shot, then I would argue that your definition of realistic sucks.

I would argue that DWils inability to hit the ground running was a contributing factor to the Giants season cratering...

The offense looks a lot better with vets like BJac and Hillis back there...

This is one of the dumbest most ill-informed arguments I've read about why Wilson sucks to date short of "Wilson sucks, /end thread".

The offensive line is playing MUCH better since Wilson got hurt. They've started the same group of guys now for 3 weeks in a row and the line is finally starting to block as a cohesive unit. In the first 5 weeks Wilson played behind 8 different starting offensive linemen. Including Week 3 vs Carolina where Snee and Baas played the entire game severely injured. Since then the line has looked the exact same every week. And the run and pass blocking shows. Here's the cumulative offensive line scores week to week based on the Giants offensive line starters.

Week 1: -2.6

Week 2: -2.8

Week 3: -1.3

Week 4: -5.3

Week 5: -1.8

Week 6: +3.8

Week 7: +1.5

Notice a trend? I sure do...

 

[msudaisy26]

For some weird reason.... I honestly think Wilson will be winning teams championship and playoff games later this year.

Just wait... the guy has top 10 talent just bad circumstances. Just wait just wait

I don't have a good sarcasm radar, but I would be surprised if he played again this year. The Giants season is shot, no sure what the reward is for bringing back a guy with a possible chronic neck/spine issue. H

I could be wrong though and this could be Spiller 2011.

 

[nobiz]

For some weird reason.... I honestly think Wilson will be winning teams championship and playoff games later this year.

Just wait... the guy has top 10 talent just bad circumstances. Just wait just wait

I don't have a good sarcasm radar, but I would be surprised if he played again this year. The Giants season is shot, no sure what the reward is for bringing back a guy with a possible chronic neck/spine issue. H

I could be wrong though and this could be Spiller 2011.

Your post is very logical, but the Giants NEVER mail it in. They have a lot of integrity in this regard, perhaps too much for their own good. Eli will be playing in the 4th quarter Week 17 if there is a chance the game can be won. Again, irrationally.

 

[msudaisy26]

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

And this is why we just hit 100 pages.

Because people inject some realistic opinion you don't agree with?

If you are arguing that Coughlin gave him a real shot, then I would argue that your definition of realistic sucks.

I would argue that DWils inability to hit the ground running was a contributing factor to the Giants season cratering...The offense looks a lot better with vets like BJac and Hillis back there...

This is one of the dumbest most ill-informed arguments I've read about why Wilson sucks to date short of "Wilson sucks, /end thread".

The offensive line is playing MUCH better since Wilson got hurt. They've started the same group of guys now for 3 weeks in a row and the line is finally starting to block as a cohesive unit. In the first 5 weeks Wilson played behind 8 different starting offensive linemen. Including Week 3 vs Carolina where Snee and Baas played the entire game severely injured. Since then the line has looked the exact same every week. And the run and pass blocking shows. Here's the cumulative offensive line scores week to week based on the Giants offensive line starters.

Week 1: -2.6

Week 2: -2.8

Week 3: -1.3

Week 4: -5.3

Week 5: -1.8

Week 6: +3.8

Week 7: +1.5

Notice a trend? I sure do...

I see it. Not only does Wilson make Eli throw interceptions, he also makes his lineman block worse too. I wonder how much worse the defense/special teams will get once he starts playing again.

 

[Rove!]

I see it. Not only does Wilson make Eli throw interceptions, he also makes his lineman block worse too. I wonder how much worse the defense/special teams will get once he starts playing again.

If he can't help the O move the sticks, the D will be gassed in the 2nd half which is where they got killed in the first set of games...

 

[Khy]

I see it. Not only does Wilson make Eli throw interceptions, he also makes his lineman block worse too. I wonder how much worse the defense/special teams will get once he starts playing again.

If he can't help the O move the sticks, the D will be gassed in the 2nd half which is where they got killed in the first set of games...

Man... I'm really hoping that this was sarcasm. It sounds like it but with some of the people in this thread I just never know...

 

[msudaisy26]

I see it. Not only does Wilson make Eli throw interceptions, he also makes his lineman block worse too. I wonder how much worse the defense/special teams will get once he starts playing again.

If he can't help the O move the sticks, the D will be gassed in the 2nd half which is where they got killed in the first set of games...

Man... I'm really hoping that this was sarcasm. It sounds like it but with some of the people in this thread I just never know...

Mine was

 

[steveski]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

 

[Ballstein]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

I want him here. How come B. Jacobs and P. Hillis outperform Wilson when given A chance?

 

[Cheesedawg]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

 

[steveski]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

I want him here. How come B. Jacobs and P. Hillis outperform Wilson when given A chance?

Why did Hillis outperform Adrian Peterson? Is he better? Or maybe there's 10 other guys on the field that contribute to how a player performs? Even though Wilson wasn't producing, he was the most dynamic player the Giants have. Teams want to stop the biggest threat. You think teams game planned to stop Jacobs and Hillis?

 

[gandalas]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

Methinks he was going for the Anchorman joke there, not being serious with the post.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

Circle jerking with yourself?

Wilson might be talented, but UPS and HS football coaching is littered with talented RBs that couldn't get their #### together for reasons within and beyond their control. Wilson has a long way to go just to get to Bradshaw, much less Barber. Saying he's the best RB the Giants had in the a long time is just flat out dumb.

 

[steveski]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

Circle jerking with yourself?Wilson might be talented, but UPS and HS football coaching is littered with talented RBs that couldn't get their #### together for reasons within and beyond their control. Wilson has a long way to go just to get to Bradshaw, much less Barber. Saying he's the best RB the Giants had in the a long time is just flat out dumb.

What I meant was that he is the most talented RB they've had in a long time. Whether it works out to be that way or not is why we are here discussing it.

Also, he has shown he can produce in the NFL at the end of last season. It's not like an Ingram who was just never able to get it going.

Again, this is just my opinion of the guy. It seems to me like most people posting here against him are disgruntled fantasy owners who just see the stat line at the end of the week. This is the shark pool to discuss players to get ahead of the curve. Making predictions about a player based on what we see in talent, situation etc.

I don't care about his fantasy aspect right now. I bought him a couple weeks before his injury for some of my bench players so I've lost nothing. I am thankful he seemed to always get grabbed right before me in drafts though. He has been a bust for fantasy purposes this year but I don't think he's a bust as a player.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

That makes more sense

 

[Bri]

What I meant was that he is the most talented RB they've had in a long time.

This isn't in any way true and counting on him got them in this mess.

Look back into Gmen history some more, they've had some very good backs that were productive whenever they got an opportunity. They usually go three deep too. This year is extremely unusual and nothing like the previous 20-30 years for them.

 

[Ballstein]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

I want him here. How come B. Jacobs and P. Hillis outperform Wilson when given A chance?

Why did Hillis outperform Adrian Peterson? Is he better? Or maybe there's 10 other guys on the field that contribute to how a player performs? Even though Wilson wasn't producing, he was the most dynamic player the Giants have. Teams want to stop the biggest threat. You think teams game planned to stop Jacobs and Hillis?

Peterson doesn't play for the giants. Two washed up football players outperformed A great athlete.

 

[jacobo_moses]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

I want him here. How come B. Jacobs and P. Hillis outperform Wilson when given A chance?

You do realize that Jacobs had a huge game vs PHI? (Who has made everyone look like a 100 yrd rusher.) (In that game Wilson had 16 yrds on just a few carries and a TD already.) And Hillis played vs MIN. (The same MIN Def that made Pitt and its swiss cheese O'line look good with Leveon Bell and his 80 yds and 2 TD's) I think we need to have some perspective. Who they are playing has a lot to do with how players look. MIN and PHI are making a lot of RB's look pretty sweet. I wouldn't put too much stock in that.

 

[jacobo_moses]

Oh and I forgot about CHI too. Yeah there DEF has suffered inj galore and are making a lot of RB's look good too. Look at the stats that Morris and Helu had last week vs them. Just pointing out the obvious.

 

[dangerman77]

I just can't drop him yet. As soon as this thread hits 200 pages, he's gone.

 

[Eminence]

Oh, come on everyone. As hilarious as this thread has been, in NFL terms David Wilson has the potential to be a great component to a RBBC. You limit his usage, give him some draws in 3WR sets, etc.

 

[Warrior]

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

And this is why we just hit 100 pages.

Because people inject some realistic opinion you don't agree with?

If you are arguing that Coughlin gave him a real shot, then I would argue that your definition of realistic sucks.

I would argue that DWils inability to hit the ground running was a contributing factor to the Giants season cratering...

The offense looks a lot better with vets like BJac and Hillis back there...

This is one of the dumbest most ill-informed arguments I've read about why Wilson sucks to date short of "Wilson sucks, /end thread".

The offensive line is playing MUCH better since Wilson got hurt. They've started the same group of guys now for 3 weeks in a row and the line is finally starting to block as a cohesive unit. In the first 5 weeks Wilson played behind 8 different starting offensive linemen. Including Week 3 vs Carolina where Snee and Baas played the entire game severely injured. Since then the line has looked the exact same every week. And the run and pass blocking shows. Here's the cumulative offensive line scores week to week based on the Giants offensive line starters.

Week 1: -2.6

Week 2: -2.8

Week 3: -1.3

Week 4: -5.3

Week 5: -1.8

Week 6: +3.8

Week 7: +1.5

Notice a trend? I sure do...

lol...get real. Funny how the line magically "improves" when there's someone in the backfield that actually follows his blocks, right? Wilson has much more to do with those negative scores than the O-line does. You have no idea how they are calculated, do you?

 

[Warrior]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

I want him here. How come B. Jacobs and P. Hillis outperform Wilson when given A chance?

You do realize that Jacobs had a huge game vs PHI? (Who has made everyone look like a 100 yrd rusher.) (In that game Wilson had 16 yrds on just a few carries and a TD already.) And Hillis played vs MIN. (The same MIN Def that made Pitt and its swiss cheese O'line look good with Leveon Bell and his 80 yds and 2 TD's) I think we need to have some perspective. Who they are playing has a lot to do with how players look. MIN and PHI are making a lot of RB's look pretty sweet. I wouldn't put too much stock in that.

the delusions continue.

Hilarious that you bask PHI's defense for being so horrible against the run but ignore the fact that your boy, David Wilson, averaged 2.7 YPC against them. Swiss cheese against everyone except for him I guess, right? When Wilson is in the backfield, all of the sudden they're a run-stuffing defense.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

And this is why we just hit 100 pages.

Because people inject some realistic opinion you don't agree with?

If you are arguing that Coughlin gave him a real shot, then I would argue that your definition of realistic sucks.

I would argue that DWils inability to hit the ground running was a contributing factor to the Giants season cratering...

The offense looks a lot better with vets like BJac and Hillis back there...

This is one of the dumbest most ill-informed arguments I've read about why Wilson sucks to date short of "Wilson sucks, /end thread".

The offensive line is playing MUCH better since Wilson got hurt. They've started the same group of guys now for 3 weeks in a row and the line is finally starting to block as a cohesive unit. In the first 5 weeks Wilson played behind 8 different starting offensive linemen. Including Week 3 vs Carolina where Snee and Baas played the entire game severely injured. Since then the line has looked the exact same every week. And the run and pass blocking shows. Here's the cumulative offensive line scores week to week based on the Giants offensive line starters.

Week 1: -2.6

Week 2: -2.8

Week 3: -1.3

Week 4: -5.3

Week 5: -1.8

Week 6: +3.8

Week 7: +1.5

Notice a trend? I sure do...

lol...get real. Funny how the line magically "improves" when there's someone in the backfield that actually follows his blocks, right? Wilson has much more to do with those negative scores than the O-line does. You have no idea how they are calculated, do you?

I don't. How do they calculate them?

 

[T with T]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

I want him here. How come B. Jacobs and P. Hillis outperform Wilson when given A chance?

You do realize that Jacobs had a huge game vs PHI? (Who has made everyone look like a 100 yrd rusher.) (In that game Wilson had 16 yrds on just a few carries and a TD already.) And Hillis played vs MIN. (The same MIN Def that made Pitt and its swiss cheese O'line look good with Leveon Bell and his 80 yds and 2 TD's) I think we need to have some perspective. Who they are playing has a lot to do with how players look. MIN and PHI are making a lot of RB's look pretty sweet. I wouldn't put too much stock in that.

the delusions continue.

Hilarious that you bask PHI's defense for being so horrible against the run but ignore the fact that your boy, David Wilson, averaged 2.7 YPC against them. Swiss cheese against everyone except for him I guess, right? When Wilson is in the backfield, all of the sudden they're a run-stuffing defense.

he was well on his way for a big day and had racked up 7 fantasy points and was on his way to 20. The David wilson thread should be RIP until he comes back form his inj. Hopefully he is able to play and recover from this neck ordeal. I think that's the main thing with this kid because he is still young and in Dynasty has some real value in the future if the giants can committ to him and block like they did for Jacobs,hillis I mean come on Wilson would have shredded MINN had he played.

 

[ShaHBucks]

I'm a Wilson owner and want him to do well being such, but I think you're ignoring the fact that he has some serious injury concerns that might jeopardize his long term viability in the league, and I would argue that Coughlin tried to take the training wheels off this year. It didn't work.

And this is why we just hit 100 pages.

Because people inject some realistic opinion you don't agree with?

If you are arguing that Coughlin gave him a real shot, then I would argue that your definition of realistic sucks.

I would argue that DWils inability to hit the ground running was a contributing factor to the Giants season cratering...The offense looks a lot better with vets like BJac and Hillis back there...

This is one of the dumbest most ill-informed arguments I've read about why Wilson sucks to date short of "Wilson sucks, /end thread".

The offensive line is playing MUCH better since Wilson got hurt. They've started the same group of guys now for 3 weeks in a row and the line is finally starting to block as a cohesive unit. In the first 5 weeks Wilson played behind 8 different starting offensive linemen. Including Week 3 vs Carolina where Snee and Baas played the entire game severely injured. Since then the line has looked the exact same every week. And the run and pass blocking shows. Here's the cumulative offensive line scores week to week based on the Giants offensive line starters.

Week 1: -2.6

Week 2: -2.8

Week 3: -1.3

Week 4: -5.3

Week 5: -1.8

Week 6: +3.8

Week 7: +1.5

Notice a trend? I sure do...

lol...get real. Funny how the line magically "improves" when there's someone in the backfield that actually follows his blocks, right? Wilson has much more to do with those negative scores than the O-line does. You have no idea how they are calculated, do you?

I don't. How do they calculate them?

http://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/

 

[msudaisy26]

That escalated quickly.

The Wilson-lovin' folks have been hyper-sensitive to any disagreement from day one. Now, after 100 pages of nonsense and blasting anyone and everyone who suggested Wilson was anything less than an elite RB, they're still engaged in an online circle jerk. Only now it's about the magnitude of the train wreck they bought into and created. I find it hugely amusing. CHOO m effing CHOO indeed.

You're not simply disagreeing or pointing to facts and reasons why you think he doesn't have the talent to be a top tier RB in this league, you're just circle jerking with yourself and saying "Told you so". Not all of us here are sitting here talking about how we think he's a he's a great talent in hopes of him bringing our fantasy teams to a championship this year. I'm a Giants fan and think this guy is the best RB the Giants have had in a long time. Stop being a troll. All you're doing is coming in here and laughing and pointing fingers. You offer nothing. Nobody wants you here. Just don't come back.

I want him here. How come B. Jacobs and P. Hillis outperform Wilson when given A chance?

You do realize that Jacobs had a huge game vs PHI? (Who has made everyone look like a 100 yrd rusher.) (In that game Wilson had 16 yrds on just a few carries and a TD already.) And Hillis played vs MIN. (The same MIN Def that made Pitt and its swiss cheese O'line look good with Leveon Bell and his 80 yds and 2 TD's) I think we need to have some perspective. Who they are playing has a lot to do with how players look. MIN and PHI are making a lot of RB's look pretty sweet. I wouldn't put too much stock in that.

the delusions continue.

Hilarious that you bask PHI's defense for being so horrible against the run but ignore the fact that your boy, David Wilson, averaged 2.7 YPC against them. Swiss cheese against everyone except for him I guess, right? When Wilson is in the backfield, all of the sudden they're a run-stuffing defense.

This is such a stupid way to look at it and here is why.

Jamaal Charles first 7 runs against Philly went for 15 yards

Alfred Morris first 7 runs against Philly went for 21 yards.

Doug Martin first 7 runs against Philly went for 23 yards.

I guess all these guys suck too, go troll else where.