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***David Wilson Bandwagon*** (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Jeff Pasquino
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Be patient. Wilson is playing at a level right now where it will be tough to take him off the field. You'll be seeing less and less of Brown with every game.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Brown injured, right leg it would seem. The injury wasn't obvious on the play, however.
T with T
Footballguy
agreed, and yes they need to start throwin the ball to wilson more..... there is no reason Wilson shouldn't catch at least 40 balls this year and maybe more.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
T with T
Footballguy
Khy
Footballguy
Yeah, I mean Bradshaw averaged about 45 receptions. Wilson is a far superior threat from the backfield as a receiver than Bradshaw was... and Eli has been quoted saying they expect Wilson to be a part of the passing game. I've been saying in every Wilson thread this offseason I see him getting around 250+ carries and 40+ receptions.
I was literally just watching the game with my roommate during the 2nd quarter after they benched Nassib going "It's weird that Brown's still out on the field. They already took Nassib out for Carr. Wouldn't you think Andre Brown being a important part of their gameplan is more important than Nassib? And shouldn't be in the game risking injury considering he already has such a bad history of injury."
I'm torn though, as a Giant fan this made me say things along the lines of "#!*%" or "$%*@" but as a Wilson owner in my most recent redraft I'm like "BIG TIME BUMP WILSON IF IT'S SERIOUS"
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
As someone who was planning on being able to snag Wilson as my RB2 this Sunday, I'm not so confident I'll be able to anymore.
Khy
Footballguy
Anyone who was looking at the Wilson & Brown situation as "Wilson is downgraded unless Brown gets hurt" as opposed to "Wilson will be an elite RB1 when Brown gets hurt" was kidding themselves. It was all but a guarantee Brown would go down at some point. Even if this is just a small sprain, it'll happen. Probably before Week 8.
Also in terms of Wilson's production... preseason totals come to
24 carries, 179 yards, 7.46 YPC, 1 TD
7 receptions, 31 yards 4.42 YPR, 0 TDs
EDIT: By comparison here are Andre Brown's totals...
27 carries, 103 yards, 3.81 YPC, 0 TDs
2 receptions, 13 yards, 6.5 YPR, 0 TDs
Also note: A good portion of Brown's carries (every single one of his 8 tonight) came with the first team offensive line vs 2nd team defenses. All of Wilson's carries were vs first team defenses. There's no competition here people.
Kids a freak... as an owner and a fan I can't wait for the season to start. It's going to be a special season watching Wilson every game.
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Agreed, I wasn't really factoring Brown into my decision to lean on him. At this point, I'm going to be banking on name value, or lack thereof. I've watched a good amount of tape on him, especially from last year and I came away thinking that he would be able to consistently produce at a high level if given the opportunity. He boasts a great combination of well, everything. He has good speed, vision, is deceivingly powerful and etc. The only thing he lacks is experience.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Bah, that sound you hear is Wilson shooting up draft boards.
Khy
Footballguy
Nevermind
If Brown's healthy or not, even a tweak makes Wilson shoot up draft boards. If Brown is slated to miss the first few games? Wilson's stock should bump to like high 2nd round in my opinion.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
The mustard is off the hot dog!
~Chick Hearn~
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
In the fourth game of the preseason, every team hopes most of all to avoid any significant injuries. The New York Giants were not that lucky.
Giants running back Andre Brown suffered a broken leg in the second quarter of the Giants’ preseason finale against the Patriots, the team has announced.
Brown suffered the injury when he was tackled late in the second quarter. Giants coach Tom Coughlin will surely face plenty of questions about why Brown was still in the game at that point.
The Giants expected Brown to play an important role in their offense this year, splitting time with David Wilson at running back. Losing Brown at the end of the preseason is a significant blow.
Giants running back Andre Brown suffered a broken leg in the second quarter of the Giants’ preseason finale against the Patriots, the team has announced.
Brown suffered the injury when he was tackled late in the second quarter. Giants coach Tom Coughlin will surely face plenty of questions about why Brown was still in the game at that point.
The Giants expected Brown to play an important role in their offense this year, splitting time with David Wilson at running back. Losing Brown at the end of the preseason is a significant blow.
Khy
Footballguy
Nobody else has much value in redraft yet, but Ryan Torain or possibly Michael Cox would be my targets over Scott.
Honestly, I'd say he to right outside the Top 10 now. Depending on how long this sidelines Brown he's a serious threat for Top 3 production without Brown threatening to steal 3rd down carries and goal line work anymore.
Khy
Footballguy
Also note: It's very possible that the Giants reach out to a veteran tomorrow. Some notable names out there are McGahee and Jacobs. Obviously they wouldn't play as large a role as Brown would have... but I think they're likely to sign one of them for insurance and change of pace.
Time Kibitzer
Footballguy
It's football ... They are all prone to injury. Was Stevie Brown injury prone? Is he now?The brain trust of the SP is absolutely adamant that there is no such thing as being injury prone though. So Andre Brown, Hakeem Nicks, Miles Austin, Darren McFadden, Ryan Mathews...these guys are no more prone to injury than, say Chris Johnson or Roddy White.
Well, I agree (check the teams in my signature ;-)), but now his draft position will reflect it. Can't get him in early-mid 3rd anymore.
Khy
Footballguy
Yeah, I had a theory all off-season that the Giants might reach out to Brandon Jacobs though. It really makes a lot of sense now to be honest.
- Knows the system
- Would cost nothing
- Is quote as dying to be a Giant again earlier in the offseason
- He'd be no more or less productive than someone like Turner who clearly has no gas left
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Take a bow.It's football ... They are all prone to injury. Was Stevie Brown injury prone? Is he now?The brain trust of the SP is absolutely adamant that there is no such thing as being injury prone though. So Andre Brown, Hakeem Nicks, Miles Austin, Darren McFadden, Ryan Mathews...these guys are no more prone to injury than, say Chris Johnson or Roddy White.
Khy
Footballguy
The real question here is I'm interested in seeing where Dodd's projections go on Wilson...
Right now he has him at: 220 carries, 990 yards, 6 TDs | 17 receptions, 133 yards, 1 TD
How large of a bump are we talking with Brown out of the picture?
275 carries, 1200 yards, 9 TDs sound about right as a floor projection now?
Right now he has him at: 220 carries, 990 yards, 6 TDs | 17 receptions, 133 yards, 1 TD
How large of a bump are we talking with Brown out of the picture?
275 carries, 1200 yards, 9 TDs sound about right as a floor projection now?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
GD it. I was targeting Wilson at 3.10 in my $$ draft next week. No chance now.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Khy
Footballguy
Yeah I reached for him in my big $$$ league the Sunday after PreWeek2 and everyone was laughing when I drafted him. I look like a friggin genius right now. He's probably going to cost a high to mid 2nd round pick now.
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Stuck choosing between sproles and Wilson as my rb3 in my 10 team PPR league.........chose sproles :(
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Just heard on ESPN, Brown broke his leg again. I am late to the party. Feel bad for the guy he just can't stay healthy
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I know, right?It's football ... They are all prone to injury. Was Stevie Brown injury prone? Is he now?The brain trust of the SP is absolutely adamant that there is no such thing as being injury prone though. So Andre Brown, Hakeem Nicks, Miles Austin, Darren McFadden, Ryan Mathews...these guys are no more prone to injury than, say Chris Johnson or Roddy White.
It's amazing the lengths people go to to convince themselves that every player is equally prone to injury
Papa Georgio
Footballguy
I wouldn't think this changes things drastically. Brown was not a great talent they will find some one to fill that role.
I took Wilson 50th overall (5.10) as my RB2 in my Yahoo money league way back on June 28.
Khy
Footballguy
HAHAHAHHAHA... wait wait, okay. I'm done now I'll make an actual post.
You've been in every single Wilson thread talking about how Brown was to big a threat to him for him to be as fantasy relevant as people are thinking he'll be. NOW Brown is completely out of the picture for probably 4-6 weeks (or something along those lines) and somehow this hurts Wilson? Make up your mind dude, quit hating on a player just to hate.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Sucks. Drafted Brown. He was going to have a role no matter what the Wilson lovers say. And Wilson won't be the short yardage back anyway.
They'll replace Brown. The 'help' comes in crucial situations where they may opt for Wilson instead of Brown's backup, now.
