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[Concept Coop]

Your last statement is a good point, maybe some Giant fans can chime in.

Not a Giants fan, but think I have a pretty good read: Wilson turns the ball over, gets the 100 Million dollar QB hit, and is feast of famine when it comes to production. That, and Coughlin is a good coach. Pretty easy to connect the dots, in my opinion.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Eli as firm and stern as I ever heard about a teammate "he's gotta learn to get better and we need him, we'll get him back in the mix"

 

[Avery]

Eli as firm and stern as I ever heard about a teammate "he's gotta learn to get better and we need him, we'll get him back in the mix"

"Back in the mix" sure doesn't sound like a starter... sounds more like a role player.

 

[ODannyBoy]

A question I don't know the answer to:

Has any player ever fumbled his career away? Meaning, can anyone think of a guy that had the talent but had his chance taken away by fumbling?

I was thinking this earlier. Fumbling will kill the career of a player with mediocre talent. For those players, being "safe" is their best attribute.

We can think of tons of RB's who have fixed their fumbling problems.

Can we think of any guy considered to be a blue chip kind of talent, who literally just couldn't get his fumbles under control? I can't.

Let's not lose perspective here. Wilson isn't the first guy to fumble twice in a game. He only had one all last year. Fumbling in both years' week 1 games looks worse than it really is.

What's different is Coughlin's handling of the situation compared to other RB's on other teams. If there were practice foibles that were creating a back story to explain Coughlin's stern reaction, don't you think it would have come out from the beat writers and camp observers during the preseason?

But it's as if Coughlin either can't stand the guy or has decided that tough, tough love is the best way to handle him. You just wonder if their two personalities mean it's the latter for Coughlin but looks like the former to Wilson.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Well at least Da'Rel Scott officially lost NYG the game more than Wilson

No he didn't

Scott didnt catch a pass that directly lead to the game winning DAL TD. Wilson fumbled earlier in the game, when at that point things couldve changed. Yes, Scott's gaffe sealed the game more than Wilson's.

I doubt Coughlin looks at them equally though.

Eli threw the ball - it's not all on Scott.

Wilson fumbled twice, and got Eli sacked in the redzone.

I dont see many RBs preventing that sack from happening. Not saying he's a good pass blocker, but he didnt have a chance on that play.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Well at least Da'Rel Scott officially lost NYG the game more than Wilson

No he didn't

Scott didnt catch a pass that directly lead to the game winning DAL TD. Wilson fumbled earlier in the game, when at that point things couldve changed. Yes, Scott's gaffe sealed the game more than Wilson's.

I doubt Coughlin looks at them equally though.

Expectations are different for Wilson vs. Scott as well.

Thats what I meant by saying "I doubt Coughlin looks at them equally though"

 

[ODannyBoy]

Well at least Da'Rel Scott officially lost NYG the game more than Wilson

No he didn't

Scott didnt catch a pass that directly lead to the game winning DAL TD. Wilson fumbled earlier in the game, when at that point things couldve changed. Yes, Scott's gaffe sealed the game more than Wilson's.

I doubt Coughlin looks at them equally though.

Eli threw the ball - it's not all on Scott.

Wilson fumbled twice, and got Eli sacked in the redzone.

Eli threw 3 picks and didn't get benched. And there are other examples where Coughlin has stuck with a back through fumbles. It's just a head-scratcher why Coughlin is treating Wilson's struggles like they are unforgivable crimes.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Eli as firm and stern as I ever heard about a teammate "he's gotta learn to get better and we need him, we'll get him back in the mix"

"Back in the mix" sure doesn't sound like a starter... sounds more like a role player.

Yes, Im sure Wilson becomes a role player and they plan on Da'rel Scott being the primary RB

 

[Yenrub]

Well at least Da'Rel Scott officially lost NYG the game more than Wilson

No he didn't

Scott didnt catch a pass that directly lead to the game winning DAL TD. Wilson fumbled earlier in the game, when at that point things couldve changed. Yes, Scott's gaffe sealed the game more than Wilson's.

I doubt Coughlin looks at them equally though.

I don’t put that interception ALL on Scott. That was a timing issue. Maybe Scott should have turned his head sooner…maybe Eli should have waited just a bit longer (he had time because Dallas faked the blitz).

Wilson’s fumbles were all on him

 

[Ladsud]

Theres not enough beer to salt away this disappointment.

 

[Concept Coop]

Well at least Da'Rel Scott officially lost NYG the game more than Wilson

No he didn't

Scott didnt catch a pass that directly lead to the game winning DAL TD. Wilson fumbled earlier in the game, when at that point things couldve changed. Yes, Scott's gaffe sealed the game more than Wilson's.

I doubt Coughlin looks at them equally though.

Eli threw the ball - it's not all on Scott.

Wilson fumbled twice, and got Eli sacked in the redzone.

I dont see many RBs preventing that sack from happening. Not saying he's a good pass blocker, but he didnt have a chance on that play.

He's been talked to about blocking at people's feet. He needs to man up and get run over, at least.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Theres not enough beer to salt away this disappointment.

Well, Im trying to still determine that Bundy

 

[Concept Coop]

Eli threw 3 picks and didn't get benched. And there are other examples where Coughlin has stuck with a back through fumbles. It's just a head-scratcher why Coughlin is treating Wilson's struggles like they are unforgivable crimes.

Sample size and history. I don't see what is so head-scratching.

 

[ODannyBoy]

How can a player lose everything in just one game.

Unreal...

What a disaster for Wilson. He'll get chances to atone, but have to wonder if he will mentally overcome this, especially knowing Coughlin is his coach.

The thing about this that doesn't make sense to me is that everything this offseason has been positive. And it's not like no RB has ever fumbled twice in a game before or missed a block.

This should be a situation where you shrug it off and say he's a young talented back who's just going through some growing pains.

But there's some kind of Coughlin vs. Wilson dynamic going on here. You just wonder why Coughlin thinks this is the way to handle Wilson. Did he not like the draft pick last year or something?

It hasn't all been positive. Coughlin had issues with the pass protection in the pre-season, and Wilson did it again today.

Coughlin's job is to win games, and he feels better doing that with men he can trust. He doesn't trust Wilson, and I think we can all see why.

That's overstating it a bit. There were comments that he still wasn't perfect but there were also comments that he was doing better. Not to mention that he looked fine in preseason.

And riddle me this: if Coughlin was so concerned about it heading into the game, why was Wilson trusted with it in this game? He used Scott on 3rd's and in passing situations after he benched Wilson, so why wasn't he deferring to Scott over Wilson all along if there was serious concern about Wilson?

What we have is a promising player that had a bad game. What normally happens to a promising player who has a bad game? They get another shot. Even if your coach is Tom Coughlin you get another chance. But if you're David Wilson and your coach is Tom Coughlin, you get treated like a pariah. That's what is weird here. It's as if there's a zero tolerance policy for Wilson for some reason for which we aren't informed.

One of the things about Wilson even pre-draft is that he's a high strung, emotional guy. I start to wonder if it's just a bad combination of personalities. I almost get the feeling that Coughlin thinks he has to break Wilson down before he can rebuild him - like some exaggerated movie charicature of an overzealous drill instructor.

 

[Kilgore]

Theres not enough beer to salt away this disappointment.

There's not enough beer to salt away the disappointment of Brandon Myers getting 10 points on that last drive, because of that Pick 6.

 

[TwinTurbo]

For all those questioning Coughlin benching Wilson, he completely deserved it. And I'm a Wilson owner in multiple leagues. That clown would have fumbled again if Coughlin let him back in. It sucks but he needs to get it right. He was a big reason the Giants lost the game and he did nothing to help them win.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Eli as firm and stern as I ever heard about a teammate "he's gotta learn to get better and we need him, we'll get him back in the mix"

"Back in the mix" sure doesn't sound like a starter... sounds more like a role player.

well they literally have no one else to play, but so he'll play in some role, but that was as harshly as I've ever heard eli publicly speak about a teammate. Not his way. Gutcheck time for wilson. I'm convinced he has talent, I'm not convinced he has any guts.

 

[Smack Tripper]

How can a player lose everything in just one game.

Unreal...

What a disaster for Wilson. He'll get chances to atone, but have to wonder if he will mentally overcome this, especially knowing Coughlin is his coach.

The thing about this that doesn't make sense to me is that everything this offseason has been positive. And it's not like no RB has ever fumbled twice in a game before or missed a block.

This should be a situation where you shrug it off and say he's a young talented back who's just going through some growing pains.

But there's some kind of Coughlin vs. Wilson dynamic going on here. You just wonder why Coughlin thinks this is the way to handle Wilson. Did he not like the draft pick last year or something?

It hasn't all been positive. Coughlin had issues with the pass protection in the pre-season, and Wilson did it again today.

Coughlin's job is to win games, and he feels better doing that with men he can trust. He doesn't trust Wilson, and I think we can all see why.

That's overstating it a bit. There were comments that he still wasn't perfect but there were also comments that he was doing better. Not to mention that he looked fine in preseason.

And riddle me this: if Coughlin was so concerned about it heading into the game, why was Wilson trusted with it in this game? He used Scott on 3rd's and in passing situations after he benched Wilson, so why wasn't he deferring to Scott over Wilson all along if there was serious concern about Wilson?

What we have is a promising player that had a bad game. What normally happens to a promising player who has a bad game? They get another shot. Even if your coach is Tom Coughlin you get another chance. But if you're David Wilson and your coach is Tom Coughlin, you get treated like a pariah. That's what is weird here. It's as if there's a zero tolerance policy for Wilson for some reason for which we aren't informed.

One of the things about Wilson even pre-draft is that he's a high strung, emotional guy. I start to wonder if it's just a bad combination of personalities. I almost get the feeling that Coughlin thinks he has to break Wilson down before he can rebuild him - like some exaggerated movie charicature of an overzealous drill instructor.

because Andre Brown broke his leg last week. They didn't even IR him for the season. I'm sure they were aware of their situation

 

[Concept Coop]

How can a player lose everything in just one game.

Unreal...

What a disaster for Wilson. He'll get chances to atone, but have to wonder if he will mentally overcome this, especially knowing Coughlin is his coach.

The thing about this that doesn't make sense to me is that everything this offseason has been positive. And it's not like no RB has ever fumbled twice in a game before or missed a block.

This should be a situation where you shrug it off and say he's a young talented back who's just going through some growing pains.

But there's some kind of Coughlin vs. Wilson dynamic going on here. You just wonder why Coughlin thinks this is the way to handle Wilson. Did he not like the draft pick last year or something?

It hasn't all been positive. Coughlin had issues with the pass protection in the pre-season, and Wilson did it again today.

Coughlin's job is to win games, and he feels better doing that with men he can trust. He doesn't trust Wilson, and I think we can all see why.

That's overstating it a bit. There were comments that he still wasn't perfect but there were also comments that he was doing better. Not to mention that he looked fine in preseason.

And riddle me this: if Coughlin was so concerned about it heading into the game, why was Wilson trusted with it in this game? He used Scott on 3rd's and in passing situations after he benched Wilson, so why wasn't he deferring to Scott over Wilson all along if there was serious concern about Wilson?

What we have is a promising player that had a bad game. What normally happens to a promising player who has a bad game? They get another shot. Even if your coach is Tom Coughlin you get another chance. But if you're David Wilson and your coach is Tom Coughlin, you get treated like a pariah. That's what is weird here. It's as if there's a zero tolerance policy for Wilson for some reason for which we aren't informed.

One of the things about Wilson even pre-draft is that he's a high strung, emotional guy. I start to wonder if it's just a bad combination of personalities. I almost get the feeling that Coughlin thinks he has to break Wilson down before he can rebuild him - like some exaggerated movie charicature of an overzealous drill instructor.

Coughlin gave him chances, and he struck out. This isn't about Coughlin.

 

[Avery]

Eli as firm and stern as I ever heard about a teammate "he's gotta learn to get better and we need him, we'll get him back in the mix"

"Back in the mix" sure doesn't sound like a starter... sounds more like a role player.

Yes, Im sure Wilson becomes a role player and they plan on Da'rel Scott being the primary RB

Sarcasm aside, I was just commenting on Eli's choice of words.

 

[ODannyBoy]

Eli threw 3 picks and didn't get benched. And there are other examples where Coughlin has stuck with a back through fumbles. It's just a head-scratcher why Coughlin is treating Wilson's struggles like they are unforgivable crimes.

Sample size and history. I don't see what is so head-scratching.

Sample size and history? Wilson got benched last year before he had a history. Imagine if Coughlin had treated Eli with the same zero tolerance policy.

Through his first four starts, Eli threw 6 picks, he didn't complete more than 48% of his passes. He looked like crap with passer ratings of 45.1, 16.9, 60.9 and 0.0. All four were losses. He also fumbled 3 times in the 7 games in which he appeared that season.

And then in week 1 of year 2 he started off with a blistering 62.2 passer rating, 43.48% completion rate and 2 picks. He also fumbled 9 times in year 2.

Maybe Coughlin has changed since 2004. But for some reason, Wilson goes to the bench when he struggles when other players don't necessarily.

 

[ODannyBoy]

How can a player lose everything in just one game.

Unreal...

What a disaster for Wilson. He'll get chances to atone, but have to wonder if he will mentally overcome this, especially knowing Coughlin is his coach.

The thing about this that doesn't make sense to me is that everything this offseason has been positive. And it's not like no RB has ever fumbled twice in a game before or missed a block.

This should be a situation where you shrug it off and say he's a young talented back who's just going through some growing pains.

But there's some kind of Coughlin vs. Wilson dynamic going on here. You just wonder why Coughlin thinks this is the way to handle Wilson. Did he not like the draft pick last year or something?

It hasn't all been positive. Coughlin had issues with the pass protection in the pre-season, and Wilson did it again today.

Coughlin's job is to win games, and he feels better doing that with men he can trust. He doesn't trust Wilson, and I think we can all see why.

That's overstating it a bit. There were comments that he still wasn't perfect but there were also comments that he was doing better. Not to mention that he looked fine in preseason.

And riddle me this: if Coughlin was so concerned about it heading into the game, why was Wilson trusted with it in this game? He used Scott on 3rd's and in passing situations after he benched Wilson, so why wasn't he deferring to Scott over Wilson all along if there was serious concern about Wilson?

What we have is a promising player that had a bad game. What normally happens to a promising player who has a bad game? They get another shot. Even if your coach is Tom Coughlin you get another chance. But if you're David Wilson and your coach is Tom Coughlin, you get treated like a pariah. That's what is weird here. It's as if there's a zero tolerance policy for Wilson for some reason for which we aren't informed.

One of the things about Wilson even pre-draft is that he's a high strung, emotional guy. I start to wonder if it's just a bad combination of personalities. I almost get the feeling that Coughlin thinks he has to break Wilson down before he can rebuild him - like some exaggerated movie charicature of an overzealous drill instructor.

because Andre Brown broke his leg last week. They didn't even IR him for the season. I'm sure they were aware of their situation

If Wilson was so suspect going into the game, why wasn't Scott already in that role BEFORE Wilson fumbled? Scott certainly had that role after Wilson fumbled and went to the bench.

 

[Max Power]

I really don't understand why people are getting on Coughlin about the benching. It's almost like you're blinded by fantasy here. Wilson fumbled twice, he was benched. Imagine how livid you'd all be at coughlin if Wilson fumbled a third time... Or missed a block that ended Eli's season...

 

[duaneok66]

Why do some people have a hard time separating fantasy from reality?

 

[jurb26]

Why do some people have a hard time separating fantasy from reality?

New here?

 

[duaneok66]

No - just assume that most people can see the big picture.

 

[steveski]

Eli threw 3 picks and didn't get benched. And there are other examples where Coughlin has stuck with a back through fumbles. It's just a head-scratcher why Coughlin is treating Wilson's struggles like they are unforgivable crimes.

Sample size and history. I don't see what is so head-scratching.

Sample size and history? Wilson got benched last year before he had a history. Imagine if Coughlin had treated Eli with the same zero tolerance policy.

Through his first four starts, Eli threw 6 picks, he didn't complete more than 48% of his passes. He looked like crap with passer ratings of 45.1, 16.9, 60.9 and 0.0. All four were losses. He also fumbled 3 times in the 7 games in which he appeared that season.

And then in week 1 of year 2 he started off with a blistering 62.2 passer rating, 43.48% completion rate and 2 picks. He also fumbled 9 times in year 2.

Maybe Coughlin has changed since 2004. But for some reason, Wilson goes to the bench when he struggles when other players don't necessarily.

You really can't compare your veteran starting QB who has 2 super bowl MVP's to a 2nd year RB getting his first real start. RB's are a lot more interchangeable than a QB. None of the veteran QB's that have proven themselves get benched no matter how much they struggle. They lead the team. You don't pull your leader when he struggles if you're trying to win a game.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Eli threw 3 picks and didn't get benched. And there are other examples where Coughlin has stuck with a back through fumbles. It's just a head-scratcher why Coughlin is treating Wilson's struggles like they are unforgivable crimes.

Sample size and history. I don't see what is so head-scratching.

Sample size and history? Wilson got benched last year before he had a history. Imagine if Coughlin had treated Eli with the same zero tolerance policy.Through his first four starts, Eli threw 6 picks, he didn't complete more than 48% of his passes. He looked like crap with passer ratings of 45.1, 16.9, 60.9 and 0.0. All four were losses. He also fumbled 3 times in the 7 games in which he appeared that season.

And then in week 1 of year 2 he started off with a blistering 62.2 passer rating, 43.48% completion rate and 2 picks. He also fumbled 9 times in year 2.

Maybe Coughlin has changed since 2004. But for some reason, Wilson goes to the bench when he struggles when other players don't necessarily.

Coughlin sees practice and preparation. We don't.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

terrific buy low opportunity here. really really low.

 

[Warrior]

Reminds me of Adrian Peterson.

Lol

 

[jurb26]

No - just assume that most people can see the big picture.

Yeah, it was a joke. I know you've been here long enough to know that just isn't the case.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Reminds me of Adrian Peterson.

Lol

Or Michael Bennett.

 

[Phenix]

Why do some people have a hard time separating fantasy from reality?

New here?

People do it every year, hype players like Wilson and Miller because the media does.

If you can't see what Wilson and Miller are lacking you are not football people.

Neither can block one little bit, while Wilson cannot hold on to the ball or make things happen, Miller cannot pull away from Thomas, that should be the most telling thing about Miller, and now we seen why.

Whats funny though is Ridley is catching grief and he has shown he can be elite coming off a 1200 yard season, but Wilson fumbles and does the same thing without the same resume and some FBGers wanna give him a pass though.

 

[pghrob]

I laughed at someone for offering me Vincent Jackson for Wilson last week. Now I'm lucky to get Eric Decker for him.

The markets can change quickly.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I laughed at someone for offering me Vincent Jackson for Wilson last week. Now I'm lucky to get Eric Decker for him.

The markets can change quickly.

Yep, and no way I'd give you Decker for him. Maybe Vincent Brown or Hartline.

 

[jurb26]

I laughed at someone for offering me Vincent Jackson for Wilson last week. Now I'm lucky to get Eric Decker for him.

The markets can change quickly.

Yep, and no way I'd give you Decker for him. Maybe Vincent Brown or Hartline.

After tonight you'll be retracting the V. Brown portion of this...

 

[Tom Hagen]

I really don't understand why people are getting on Coughlin about the benching. It's almost like you're blinded by fantasy here. Wilson fumbled twice, he was benched. Imagine how livid you'd all be at coughlin if Wilson fumbled a third time... Or missed a block that ended Eli's season...

Belichick did the same thing with Ridley this week.

 

[drake_ovo]

hey guys, i officially dropped d.wilson in my 14 teamer this morning.

just wanted to get that off my chest.

thanks

 

[JuniorNB]

Why do some people have a hard time separating fantasy from reality?

New here?

People do it every year, hype players like Wilson and Miller because the media does.

If you can't see what Wilson and Miller are lacking you are not football people.

Neither can block one little bit, while Wilson cannot hold on to the ball or make things happen,

Ooof. Too bad, because you were doing so well.

If you don't think Wilson can 'make things happen', you haven't been paying attention.

 

[T with T]

My dynamic starting RB tandem of Ridley and Wilson is looking super awesome right now.

yea I love Wilson and still do but Spiller and wilson and roddy killed me this week got totally skunked Big time... Hoping it was just a weird week 1.

 

[B-Deep]

I'd think Couhghlin has earned the benefit of the doubt here. He sees more and knows more than we do, and he has won a couple of super bowls recently.

I'd also think it is a bit crazy to be dumping Wilson, if you drafted him you have to wait and see. Time will tell what impact this performance will have on him going forward, maybe the ginats will never trust him or maybe he'll earn their trust back. Fa too early to tell.

I just wanted to get some common sense off my chest, now please continue over reacting, panicking, accusing, and generally screaming that the sky is falling.

 

[Pump N Go]

Just completely brutal, only way it could have been worse is if he tore up his knee. If he would have fumbled a third time I'm almost certain Coughlin would have keeled over and died right there on the sideline.

 

[Banger]

How can a player lose everything in just one game.

Unreal...

What a disaster for Wilson. He'll get chances to atone, but have to wonder if he will mentally overcome this, especially knowing Coughlin is his coach.

The thing about this that doesn't make sense to me is that everything this offseason has been positive. And it's not like no RB has ever fumbled twice in a game before or missed a block.

This should be a situation where you shrug it off and say he's a young talented back who's just going through some growing pains.

But there's some kind of Coughlin vs. Wilson dynamic going on here. You just wonder why Coughlin thinks this is the way to handle Wilson. Did he not like the draft pick last year or something?

Coughlin doesn't give a crap who you are....there's one way to do things, his way. That was my fear with this situation because there are/were trust issues there. Generally, a guy with his talent get more than 70 carries when they are healthy on a team that needed some RB help/big play ability. I wondered if he did miss blocks/if he did fumble would he put him back in the dog house...I think we clearly got our answer in about 1 half of football week 1.

Coughlin is paid to win games and he's not going to shrug off a guy missing blocks and getting his QB hit. He's not going to shrug off fumbles in the red zone / game changing fumbles. It was about as bad a showing as he could've possibly made. I guess the good thing is that he can only go up from here when he does hit the field again.

 

[ebsteelers]

you hear that sound?

that was the band wagon crashing last night.

the one good thing is there is no one in the backfield currently with brown being hurt that is nearly as good as him. so he will be the starter next week.. but if he fumbles next week.. this train will go completely off the tracks

 

[Judge Smails]

A question I don't know the answer to:

Has any player ever fumbled his career away? Meaning, can anyone think of a guy that had the talent but had his chance taken away by fumbling?

I was thinking this earlier. Fumbling will kill the career of a player with mediocre talent. For those players, being "safe" is their best attribute.

We can think of tons of RB's who have fixed their fumbling problems.

Can we think of any guy considered to be a blue chip kind of talent, who literally just couldn't get his fumbles under control? I can't.

Let's not lose perspective here. Wilson isn't the first guy to fumble twice in a game. He only had one all last year. Fumbling in both years' week 1 games looks worse than it really is.

What's different is Coughlin's handling of the situation compared to other RB's on other teams. If there were practice foibles that were creating a back story to explain Coughlin's stern reaction, don't you think it would have come out from the beat writers and camp observers during the preseason?

But it's as if Coughlin either can't stand the guy or has decided that tough, tough love is the best way to handle him. You just wonder if their two personalities mean it's the latter for Coughlin but looks like the former to Wilson.

DeAngelo Williams put the ball on the ground twice yesterday, lost one, and nobody is talking about it....

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I wouldn't be so sure that he retains his starters job. DW looks firmly planted in Coughlins doghouse. Like said earlier, he's only worried about winning games, not putting the best "talent" out there. He could just put Scott in as starter next week and rotate Wilson in just to teach him a lesson. Scott's an obvious downgrade in talent, but he at least doesn't have DW's glaring fumble and protection issues.

 

[iamkoza]

A question I don't know the answer to:

Has any player ever fumbled his career away? Meaning, can anyone think of a guy that had the talent but had his chance taken away by fumbling?

I was thinking this earlier. Fumbling will kill the career of a player with mediocre talent. For those players, being "safe" is their best attribute.

We can think of tons of RB's who have fixed their fumbling problems.

Can we think of any guy considered to be a blue chip kind of talent, who literally just couldn't get his fumbles under control? I can't.

Let's not lose perspective here. Wilson isn't the first guy to fumble twice in a game. He only had one all last year. Fumbling in both years' week 1 games looks worse than it really is.

What's different is Coughlin's handling of the situation compared to other RB's on other teams. If there were practice foibles that were creating a back story to explain Coughlin's stern reaction, don't you think it would have come out from the beat writers and camp observers during the preseason?

But it's as if Coughlin either can't stand the guy or has decided that tough, tough love is the best way to handle him. You just wonder if their two personalities mean it's the latter for Coughlin but looks like the former to Wilson.

DeAngelo Williams put the ball on the ground twice yesterday, lost one, and nobody is talking about it....

nobody bought in to d williams hype and used a high 2nd round pick on him (not saying i did, but i saw one draft someone did)

last night could not have gone worse

 

[B-Deep]

A question I don't know the answer to:

Has any player ever fumbled his career away? Meaning, can anyone think of a guy that had the talent but had his chance taken away by fumbling?

I was thinking this earlier. Fumbling will kill the career of a player with mediocre talent. For those players, being "safe" is their best attribute.

We can think of tons of RB's who have fixed their fumbling problems.

Can we think of any guy considered to be a blue chip kind of talent, who literally just couldn't get his fumbles under control? I can't.

Let's not lose perspective here. Wilson isn't the first guy to fumble twice in a game. He only had one all last year. Fumbling in both years' week 1 games looks worse than it really is.

What's different is Coughlin's handling of the situation compared to other RB's on other teams. If there were practice foibles that were creating a back story to explain Coughlin's stern reaction, don't you think it would have come out from the beat writers and camp observers during the preseason?

But it's as if Coughlin either can't stand the guy or has decided that tough, tough love is the best way to handle him. You just wonder if their two personalities mean it's the latter for Coughlin but looks like the former to Wilson.

DeAngelo Williams put the ball on the ground twice yesterday, lost one, and nobody is talking about it....

Carolina <> NYG

one expects to contend for another super bowl every year

 

[Banger]

you hear that sound?

that was the band wagon crashing last night.

the one good thing is there is no one in the backfield currently with brown being hurt that is nearly as good as him. so he will be the starter next week.. but if he fumbles next week.. this train will go completely off the tracks

or until they bring in a Hightower/McGahee/Wells.....I would expect them to add someone this week. Wilson needs to prove himself and they just can't risk the season in blind faith that he will improve.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sounds like Coughlin is sticking with Wilson. "We need him". "We will get this right, even if he has to carry around two footballs".