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[Khy]

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[msudaisy26]

Wilson dynasty owners -- how much would it take to pry this guy from your hands right now? Imagine that your team is in last place, in part because you've started wilson the last two weeks.

It really depends on your situation. If I am in last place with a terrible team I am sitting on him unless I get an unreal offer. His value will not get any lower then it is and my team is going no where this season anyways. If I am 0 - 2 with a good team that had some bad luck, I might move him to a rebuilding team for a piece that helps me win now.

My personal situation is this, I am 1 - 1 in my dynasty league, I have very good running back depth so I can afford to sit on him, however I have received a few emails inquiring about him. I would be willing to trade him for help right now, but I will not sell low on him and I consider my team to be one of the top 4 in the league and I wouldn't trade him to any of the teams I consider in that top 4 with me without getting back a major piece in return.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm actually 2-0 despite starting this guy week 1. What would I trade him for? In my league, being salary cap/contract league, we are much more conservative. Can't grab a guy every week off the WW as whomever you cut has to be counted against the cap. Nobody has come to me with an offer for him, and if they did it would be too low for me to trade him. The situation is still too good. They can;t keep sending Eli out there to throw a handful of picks a game because nobody is at all worried about the run. They have to make teams worried about the run. Some in this thread have argued that Wilson can't do that. I believe otherwise. AS LONG AS HE HOLD ONTO THE DAMN BALL!

 

[Touchdown There]

Wilson dynasty owners -- how much would it take to pry this guy from your hands right now? Imagine that your team is in last place, in part because you've started wilson the last two weeks.

It really depends on your situation. If I am in last place with a terrible team I am sitting on him unless I get an unreal offer. His value will not get any lower then it is and my team is going no where this season anyways. If I am 0 - 2 with a good team that had some bad luck, I might move him to a rebuilding team for a piece that helps me win now.

My personal situation is this, I am 1 - 1 in my dynasty league, I have very good running back depth so I can afford to sit on him, however I have received a few emails inquiring about him. I would be willing to trade him for help right now, but I will not sell low on him and I consider my team to be one of the top 4 in the league and I wouldn't trade him to any of the teams I consider in that top 4 with me without getting back a major piece in return.

Similar situation here. I own him in my only dynasty league and have a 1-1 record. One owner is sending repeated offers with non-elite WRs. My other RBs are Trent, Lacy and Lamar Miller. Forced to start David Wilson in week 3. No chance I sell low in dynasty.

 

[Nucker101]

I'm curious to see if Colts now turn around and send Bradshaw back to NY.

Makes a lot of sense..

 

[msudaisy26]

Wilson dynasty owners -- how much would it take to pry this guy from your hands right now? Imagine that your team is in last place, in part because you've started wilson the last two weeks.

It really depends on your situation. If I am in last place with a terrible team I am sitting on him unless I get an unreal offer. His value will not get any lower then it is and my team is going no where this season anyways. If I am 0 - 2 with a good team that had some bad luck, I might move him to a rebuilding team for a piece that helps me win now.

My personal situation is this, I am 1 - 1 in my dynasty league, I have very good running back depth so I can afford to sit on him, however I have received a few emails inquiring about him. I would be willing to trade him for help right now, but I will not sell low on him and I consider my team to be one of the top 4 in the league and I wouldn't trade him to any of the teams I consider in that top 4 with me without getting back a major piece in return.

Similar situation here. I own him in my only dynasty league and have a 1-1 record. One owner is sending repeated offers with non-elite WRs. My other RBs are Trent, Lacy and Lamar Miller. Forced to start David Wilson in week 3. No chance I sell low in dynasty.

I feel your pain, we have a deep starting line up in this league with 2 flex spots, due to injuries I maybe forced to start him this week, it is early but deciding between him, Randle, or Rainey. Of course this is all moot if Vernon Davis can go this weekend

 

[msudaisy26]

I'm curious to see if Colts now turn around and send Bradshaw back to NY.

Makes a lot of sense..

No it doesn't, the reason they moved on from Bradshaw was 3 reasons, 1. they loved Wilson, and Brown 2. Bradshaw's injury problems, and 3. They were getting sick of his little fits he threw on the sideline when he wasn't getting the ball enough.

 

[Nucker101]

I'm curious to see if Colts now turn around and send Bradshaw back to NY.

Makes a lot of sense..

No it doesn't, the reason they moved on from Bradshaw was 3 reasons, 1. they loved Wilson, and Brown 2. Bradshaw's injury problems, and 3. They were getting sick of his little fits he threw on the sideline when he wasn't getting the ball enough.

Okay, but at 0-2 jobs are on the line. I'm sure that reason #1 is no longer the case. #2, Trade a 6th or 7th for him or wait until he might get released(according to your #3 he won't be happy as T-Rich's backup so he'll want out anyways). If he gets hurt then so be it, but he's a decent band aid option that knows the system and can play right away. No biggie if he gets hurt again, plus Andre Brown will be back later this year so the Giants would just need him to stay healthy for a few games. #3, I'm sure he'd get more touches in NY right now compared to Indy, I'm sure this off-season and the T-Rich trade opened up his eyes a bit.

 

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[Yenrub]

I'm curious to see if Colts now turn around and send Bradshaw back to NY.

Makes a lot of sense..

No it doesn't, the reason they moved on from Bradshaw was 3 reasons, 1. they loved Wilson, and Brown 2. Bradshaw's injury problems, and 3. They were getting sick of his little fits he threw on the sideline when he wasn't getting the ball enough.

2 out of 3 ain't bad I guess

 

[Banger]

I'm curious to see if Colts now turn around and send Bradshaw back to NY.

Makes a lot of sense..

No it doesn't, the reason they moved on from Bradshaw was 3 reasons, 1. they loved Wilson, and Brown 2. Bradshaw's injury problems, and 3. They were getting sick of his little fits he threw on the sideline when he wasn't getting the ball enough.

1) well, they may still may like Wilson long term but don't feel he's ready short term and I'm sure they'd like a do-over considering how the RB position has turned out this year.

2) Bradshaw wouldn't be the bell cow and likely got dealt a good dose of reality as a free agent who likely had a higher opinion of himself than the role/money he landed.

3) he just lost his job to TRich and he was in a timeshare with superstar Vick Ballard so a timeshare with Wilson at this point would be a step up.

 

[msudaisy26]

I'm curious to see if Colts now turn around and send Bradshaw back to NY.

Makes a lot of sense..

No it doesn't, the reason they moved on from Bradshaw was 3 reasons, 1. they loved Wilson, and Brown 2. Bradshaw's injury problems, and 3. They were getting sick of his little fits he threw on the sideline when he wasn't getting the ball enough.

2 out of 3 ain't bad I guess

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/22/ahmad-bradshaw-explains-sideline-words-with-coughlin/

This wasn't the first time it happened either, I am sure it had something to do with it

 

[Eminence]

I personally hope that Wilson gets perfect blocking and runs it in for a 50+ yard scamper. Because I know there are some poor SOB drafted him early and is now benching him, lol.

 

[Arwald]

Just picked him up in a 14 teams redraft league and picked him up from the waiver wire (had the last spot anyway). He can only get better from this point!

 

[Eminence]

I'd be happy with him as my RB3 / Flex.

 

[msudaisy26]

I'd be happy with him as my RB3 / Flex.

You are working your way over to the dark side. Welcome we have snacks

 

[Yenrub]

I'm curious to see if Colts now turn around and send Bradshaw back to NY.

Makes a lot of sense..

No it doesn't, the reason they moved on from Bradshaw was 3 reasons, 1. they loved Wilson, and Brown 2. Bradshaw's injury problems, and 3. They were getting sick of his little fits he threw on the sideline when he wasn't getting the ball enough.

2 out of 3 ain't bad I guess

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/22/ahmad-bradshaw-explains-sideline-words-with-coughlin/

This wasn't the first time it happened either, I am sure it had something to do with it

I wasn’t disputing that he yelled at coaches to get him the ball

I’m disputing that him being released had anything to with the yelling at coaches. He is a fiery emotional guy but he was never considered disruptive or a club house cancer

Bradshaw was a Coughlin favorite. He was admired for his toughness and desire and the way he would play through injury.

 

[netnalp]

I'm curious to see if Colts now turn around and send Bradshaw back to NY.

Makes a lot of sense..

No it doesn't, the reason they moved on from Bradshaw was 3 reasons, 1. they loved Wilson, and Brown 2. Bradshaw's injury problems, and 3. They were getting sick of his little fits he threw on the sideline when he wasn't getting the ball enough.

2 out of 3 ain't bad I guess

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/22/ahmad-bradshaw-explains-sideline-words-with-coughlin/

This wasn't the first time it happened either, I am sure it had something to do with it

I wasn’t disputing that he yelled at coaches to get him the ball

I’m disputing that him being released had anything to with the yelling at coaches. He is a fiery emotional guy but he was never considered disruptive or a club house cancer

Bradshaw was a Coughlin favorite. He was admired for his toughness and desire and the way he would play through injury.

I think it was the second time he's yelled at coaches during a game. It's not the reason he was let go.

Look at what the Giants put up with from Osi and they kept him well beyond his times of being disruptive and when they could have unloaded him.

Same with Jacobs when he complained about losing the starting job to Bradshaw.

 

[Clifford]

I personally hope that Wilson gets perfect blocking and runs it in for a 50+ yard scamper. Because I know there are some poor SOB drafted him early and is now benching him, lol.

 

[rocketsauce]

Trying to get him for BJGE. Guy isn't biting. His only RB2 contender right now is Wilson.

 

[LususV]

0-2 in my two keepers and dynasty. No chance I sell low.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

This thread will never die. :IBTL:

I don't understand this... it's a bandwagon thread. why would it die? IT'S A BANDWAGON!!!! haters gonna hate, it's part of the fun.

Why is it fun to have a bandwagon thread on a guy who averages 1 point per game.

You all a bunch of sick puppies.

I just want that one day of 5 pages of posting in here when he finally goes off. On a serious note, this progress right now is not that surprising really. Wilson was boom or bust, there was not much of a middle ground. On day one he busted. Coughlin's doghouse has a typical timeline of between 2 to 6 games based on what he has done to RB's or WR's who do dumb things. This is hopefully the calm before the storm, those of you writing him off already is way premature I think. Hopefully he gets back on the field regularly so we can see what his floor really is. His ceiling is irrelevant for now pending some semblance of production.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

There is one antidote and one antidote only to the Giants' woes: A foundation run game spearheaded by a space-creating running back. That back is David Wilson, in a perfect match of player and team. It's only a matter of time before the Giants recommit to their 2012 first-round pick as an offensive focal point, and Wilson cleared his first hurdle by displaying Week 2 ball security one Sunday after losing two fumbles. Carolina's talented but heavyweight defensive front had trouble containing a similarly skilled and elusive runner last week, allowing C.J. Spiller to pop off 129 total yards at a 6.44 per-carry clip. Wilson is the best buy-low in fantasy football. Get him before it's too late.

Rotoworld

 

[DeaLerZ]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

they didn't get carved up by Buffalo.. would have only been 100yds total between Spiller, Jackson, and Manuel until Spiller broke that long 46 yd run, and watching the game the Bills weren't exactly running all over the place until the injuries began to plague Carolina in the 2nd half... biggest concern with Carolina right now is there completely banged up secondary.. and i think it bodes well for Giants WR

 

[TheFanatic]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

they didn't get carved up by Buffalo.. would have only been 100yds total between Spiller, Jackson, and Manuel until Spiller broke that long 46 yd run, and watching the game the Bills weren't exactly running all over the place until the injuries began to plague Carolina in the 2nd half... biggest concern with Carolina right now is there completely banged up secondary.. and i think it bodes well for Giants WR

So if we take out that one long run, it wasn't really a carving situation. Good to know we're allowed to be selective like that. Maybe if I lose this week, I can request to have a couple long runs removed from my opponents score.

 

[ldizzle]

I have no doubt they will have to give him the rock at some point. The only thing im concerned is that they likely wont trust him as a goal line back and arent throwing him any passes

 

[Touchdown There]

Coughlin had a personal tragedy this week. I think he goes soft and gives Wilson a gazillion carries.

 

[Stewyfootballhead]

Coughlin found out he has a long lost son? Oh sorry that was Jim Fassel.......

 

[msudaisy26]

Trying to get him for BJGE. Guy isn't biting. His only RB2 contender right now is Wilson.

BJGE will barely be in the league next year and not fantasy relevant, if this is dynasty. Redraft I still wouldn't, BJGE isn't making him a contender or even better

 

[monk]

Like I said ...Starting Wilson with confidence.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7448/david-wilson

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

This matchup would seem to me that the Giants will still be throwing it a whole lot. I'm definitely staying clear until he actually shows a pulse.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

they didn't get carved up by Buffalo.. would have only been 100yds total between Spiller, Jackson, and Manuel until Spiller broke that long 46 yd run, and watching the game the Bills weren't exactly running all over the place until the injuries began to plague Carolina in the 2nd half... biggest concern with Carolina right now is there completely banged up secondary.. and i think it bodes well for Giants WR

So if we take out that one long run, it wasn't really a carving situation. Good to know we're allowed to be selective like that. Maybe if I lose this week, I can request to have a couple long runs removed from my opponents score.

read the whole post smarty... the injuries on the defense had a lot to do with the long run happening and Buffalo winning the game....

 

[snitwitch]

If this guy goes off this weekend, we'll see page 75 of this thread by next friday.

 

[Khy]

This matchup would seem to me that the Giants will still be throwing it a whole lot. I'm definitely staying clear until he actually shows a pulse.

What about playing the 27th ranked scoring offense tells you they'll be throwing a lot? The Panthers have only managed to score 30 points all season. The only teams who have scored less are the Steelers, Jags and Browns and Jets.

 

[Arwald]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

they didn't get carved up by Buffalo.. would have only been 100yds total between Spiller, Jackson, and Manuel until Spiller broke that long 46 yd run, and watching the game the Bills weren't exactly running all over the place until the injuries began to plague Carolina in the 2nd half... biggest concern with Carolina right now is there completely banged up secondary.. and i think it bodes well for Giants WR

So if we take out that one long run, it wasn't really a carving situation. Good to know we're allowed to be selective like that. Maybe if I lose this week, I can request to have a couple long runs removed from my opponents score.

read the whole post smarty... the injuries on the defense had a lot to do with the long run happening and Buffalo winning the game....

Another important difference between the Giants and the Bills is that noone was expecting the Bills to pass a lot. Their main weapon is the run with the spiller/jackson one two punch. For the Giants it's the pass game.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

This matchup would seem to me that the Giants will still be throwing it a whole lot. I'm definitely staying clear until he actually shows a pulse.

What about playing the 27th ranked scoring offense tells you they'll be throwing a lot? The Panthers have only managed to score 30 points all season. The only teams who have scored less are the Steelers, Jags and Browns and Jets.

The strength of the Panthers defense is their front seven. The weakness is the secondary which is also been ravaged by injuries. If the Giants want to move the football at all, they'll be doing it through the air. Seems pretty elementary to me.

 

[Khy]

This matchup would seem to me that the Giants will still be throwing it a whole lot. I'm definitely staying clear until he actually shows a pulse.

What about playing the 27th ranked scoring offense tells you they'll be throwing a lot? The Panthers have only managed to score 30 points all season. The only teams who have scored less are the Steelers, Jags and Browns and Jets.

The strength of the Panthers defense is their front seven. The weakness is the secondary which is also been ravaged by injuries. If the Giants want to move the football at all, they'll be doing it through the air. Seems pretty elementary to me.

While true... the Bills were also facing 8 in the box most of the game because their threat is Spiller no Manuel. The Giants on the other hand won't be which should allow for some open running lanes.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

This matchup would seem to me that the Giants will still be throwing it a whole lot. I'm definitely staying clear until he actually shows a pulse.

What about playing the 27th ranked scoring offense tells you they'll be throwing a lot? The Panthers have only managed to score 30 points all season. The only teams who have scored less are the Steelers, Jags and Browns and Jets.

The strength of the Panthers defense is their front seven. The weakness is the secondary which is also been ravaged by injuries. If the Giants want to move the football at all, they'll be doing it through the air. Seems pretty elementary to me.

While true... the Bills were also facing 8 in the box most of the game because their threat is Spiller no Manuel. The Giants on the other hand won't be which should allow for some open running lanes.

I guess I just didn't take Gilbride's comments to mean that the Giants were planning on showing any kind of commitment to the running game or certainly to Wilson. Color me skeptical I guess until he does have his "breakout" game. He'll be doing it on my bench. I would absolutely love it if I were wrong and he does go off this week. My gut is telling me that the matchups down the field this week will ultimately prove too inviting to see that long awaited commitment to the run at least for this week.

 

[netnalp]

This matchup would seem to me that the Giants will still be throwing it a whole lot. I'm definitely staying clear until he actually shows a pulse.

What about playing the 27th ranked scoring offense tells you they'll be throwing a lot? The Panthers have only managed to score 30 points all season. The only teams who have scored less are the Steelers, Jags and Browns and Jets.

The strength of the Panthers defense is their front seven. The weakness is the secondary which is also been ravaged by injuries. If the Giants want to move the football at all, they'll be doing it through the air. Seems pretty elementary to me.

While true... the Bills were also facing 8 in the box most of the game because their threat is Spiller no Manuel. The Giants on the other hand won't be which should allow for some open running lanes.

I'd think teams would play pass and dare the Giants to run the ball, till they can show they are able to run effectively.

 

[netnalp]

This matchup would seem to me that the Giants will still be throwing it a whole lot. I'm definitely staying clear until he actually shows a pulse.

What about playing the 27th ranked scoring offense tells you they'll be throwing a lot? The Panthers have only managed to score 30 points all season. The only teams who have scored less are the Steelers, Jags and Browns and Jets.

The strength of the Panthers defense is their front seven. The weakness is the secondary which is also been ravaged by injuries. If the Giants want to move the football at all, they'll be doing it through the air. Seems pretty elementary to me.

While true... the Bills were also facing 8 in the box most of the game because their threat is Spiller no Manuel. The Giants on the other hand won't be which should allow for some open running lanes.

I guess I just didn't take Gilbride's comments to mean that the Giants were planning on showing any kind of commitment to the running game or certainly to Wilson. Color me skeptical I guess until he does have his "breakout" game. He'll be doing it on my bench. I would absolutely love it if I were wrong and he does go off this week. My gut is telling me that the matchups down the field this week will ultimately prove too inviting to see that long awaited commitment to the run at least for this week.

All Giants coaches and players are saying they need to be more balanced on offense. That they have to run the ball. They're all saying it has been little break downs, a different guy on each play failing to do what he's supposed to that has caused the dismal results.

Coaches think they will get it fixed and once they do they will run more than they have to make the offense balanced.

 

[msudaisy26]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

they didn't get carved up by Buffalo.. would have only been 100yds total between Spiller, Jackson, and Manuel until Spiller broke that long 46 yd run, and watching the game the Bills weren't exactly running all over the place until the injuries began to plague Carolina in the 2nd half... biggest concern with Carolina right now is there completely banged up secondary.. and i think it bodes well for Giants WR

It doesn't go over well in the Shark pool when you say if you take away his best run. Injuries happen and the Bills took advantage of them and rushed for 149 yards.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Wilson dynasty owners -- how much would it take to pry this guy from your hands right now? Imagine that your team is in last place, in part because you've started wilson the last two weeks.

My exact situation at 0-2. I was intent on holding, as I am a huge Wilson backer. I got an offer of McFadden for Wilson in a 10 Team 10 Player keeper league. I need the wins now before it is too late so I took it...........

 

[LittlePhatty]

While we're taking things away, if you take away Wilson's two fumbles his stats start to look really g...oh, wait, they still suck.

 

[msudaisy26]

Wilson dynasty owners -- how much would it take to pry this guy from your hands right now? Imagine that your team is in last place, in part because you've started wilson the last two weeks.

My exact situation at 0-2. I was intent on holding, as I am a huge Wilson backer. I got an offer of McFadden for Wilson in a 10 Team 10 Player keeper league. I need the wins now before it is too late so I took it...........

Ewww, I got an offer of Matthews for Wilson and I declined. I actually got an email back saying really? I thought I was overpaying a bit, some how I managed to bite my tongue.

 

[B-Deep]

this topic has stayed on page 1 all day

all of you are the devil

if i knew how to speak that crazy dutch-amish-english hybrid i would curse you all and leave bibles on your doorstep

david wilson is the antichrist, his coming was foretold

 

[Yenrub]

Soooo which fumbler do you like better this weekend Wilson or Ridley?

 

[Arwald]

Soooo which fumbler do you like better this weekend Wilson or Ridley?

Wilson because of the WR he plays with. TB can focus on Ridley with Revis taking out Edelman and the rest of the NE WR unable to catch a pass.

 

[Touchdown There]

While we're taking things away, if you take away Wilson's two fumbles his stats start to look really g...oh, wait, they still suck.

Wilson is not a rookie. His body of work last year was enough to show his talent. This is part of the reason everyone wants Coughlin off his ###. Stop treating the guy like a rookie.The Lions gave LeShoure a crap ton of carries last year to find out if he was any good. When the Giants do the same there will be a balanced offense in NY.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

they didn't get carved up by Buffalo.. would have only been 100yds total between Spiller, Jackson, and Manuel until Spiller broke that long 46 yd run, and watching the game the Bills weren't exactly running all over the place until the injuries began to plague Carolina in the 2nd half... biggest concern with Carolina right now is there completely banged up secondary.. and i think it bodes well for Giants WR

It doesn't go over well in the Shark pool when you say if you take away his best run. Injuries happen and the Bills took advantage of them and rushed for 149 yards.

really don't care how it goes over in the shark pool... again learn to read the entire paragraph before picking out one aspect and responding like an ###

isn't the point of even writing in these threads to add what we saw in the game, and help give each other an edge in our leagues??? not to pick apart each other's posts and be condescending

if what i said is that stupid, than just skim over it and move to the next post... pretty simple

 

[msudaisy26]

Wilson is a terrible play against Carolina. Their front seven is playing tops in league right now and I don't expect any of the Giants backs to be able to get anything going on the ground. Since Cam's accuracy is non-existent and the Giants have a decent D-line, I could see a stinker of a game, something like 9-13 in favor of NY.

If anyone goes off in this game it will likely be the receivers for NY and Olsen/Smith for Carolina.

While I'd like to agree I don't think we 'really' know what the Carolina front 7 holds yet. I think if Wilson gets some real playing time this week it can be telling. While they did shut down Lynch they got carved up by Spiller. Wilson is a much closer comparison to Spiller than Lynch. Lynch is just a massive wrecking ball he isn't particularly fast and not a good outside runner. Where as Spiller and Wilson are the complete opposite. They're good inside runners but really excel at outside runs. That's where Spiller really tore up Carolina last week. All of his runs were bounced to the outside.

I think Coughlin will be pressured into at least running Wilson early and seeing how it works out. I'd expect him to see 5-8 carries in the first quarter. And then they'll adjust based on his effectiveness from there. If he's going 1.3ypc on 8 carries he'll probably not do much more but if he's popping off 5-10 yard clips every run then he could see around 18-20 on the game. The Giants NEED to establish a running game. This is a must win game for them, thinking of it from say a fantasy purpose. Wilson is the 'upside' play, they have to just put all the chips in the middle and pray for the ace on the river here.

i don't think coughlin feels the least bit of pressure to do anything in particular with wilson at all

they didn't get carved up by Buffalo.. would have only been 100yds total between Spiller, Jackson, and Manuel until Spiller broke that long 46 yd run, and watching the game the Bills weren't exactly running all over the place until the injuries began to plague Carolina in the 2nd half... biggest concern with Carolina right now is there completely banged up secondary.. and i think it bodes well for Giants WR

It doesn't go over well in the Shark pool when you say if you take away his best run. Injuries happen and the Bills took advantage of them and rushed for 149 yards.

really don't care how it goes over in the shark pool... again learn to read the entire paragraph before picking out one aspect and responding like an ###

isn't the point of even writing in these threads to add what we saw in the game, and help give each other an edge in our leagues??? not to pick apart each other's posts and be condescending

if what i said is that stupid, than just skim over it and move to the next post... pretty simple

I am trying to help, using injuries as a reason why another team had success against another won't help you in the long run, neither will saying if you take away a person's longest gain he wouldn't have done anything. Take it how you want. I had no problem with the rest of your post that is why I only commented on that part.