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Demorrio Williams tears pectoral (1 Viewer)

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From Rotoworld:

Demorrio Williams-LB- Falcons Apr. 29 - 9:15 pm et Falcons LB Demorrio Williams tore his pectoral muscle while lifting weights and could be sidelined as long as five months.It couldn't come at a worse time. Atlanta is thin at linebacker and Williams, their weak-side starter, is entering a contract year. There's a good chance he'll start the year on the PUP list. Fourth-round rookie Stephen Nicholas will line up as the team's starter at May minicamp.
 
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Just to throw a heavy speculative wrench into the thread....

If Demorrio Williams' prognosis isn't as good as currently suggested or his rehab doesn't progress as quickly as the Falcons hope, it's worth considering a couple of additional ramifications.

1. The Falcons don't want to play musical backers with Keith Brooking. And the coaches are on record as backing Stephen Nicholas at WLB. But this could be the crack in the door Jordan Beck needed.

2. Williams is on a one year RFA deal. If Nicholas impresses, Williams could be on his way out next off-season as an UFA.

Both seem unlikely, but I figured I'd add to the Gerald Hayes panic. :yes:

 
Just to throw a heavy speculative wrench into the thread....If Demorrio Williams' prognosis isn't as good as currently suggested or his rehab doesn't progress as quickly as the Falcons hope, it's worth considering a couple of additional ramifications.1. The Falcons don't want to play musical backers with Keith Brooking. And the coaches are on record as backing Stephen Nicholas at WLB. But this could be the crack in the door Jordan Beck needed.2. Williams is on a one year RFA deal. If Nicholas impresses, Williams could be on his way out next off-season as an UFA.Both seem unlikely, but I figured I'd add to the Gerald Hayes panic. :thumbup:
Any chance Boley figures to move out of the SLB? :wall:
 
Just to throw a heavy speculative wrench into the thread....If Demorrio Williams' prognosis isn't as good as currently suggested or his rehab doesn't progress as quickly as the Falcons hope, it's worth considering a couple of additional ramifications.1. The Falcons don't want to play musical backers with Keith Brooking. And the coaches are on record as backing Stephen Nicholas at WLB. But this could be the crack in the door Jordan Beck needed.2. Williams is on a one year RFA deal. If Nicholas impresses, Williams could be on his way out next off-season as an UFA.Both seem unlikely, but I figured I'd add to the Gerald Hayes panic. :eek:
Any chance Boley figures to move out of the SLB? :jawdrop:
I'm quietly hoping. Nicholas was an SLB in college. It was for good reason. His MLB, Ben Moffit, who you will be hearing about this time next year, is just a prototypical run stuffing inside backer. He's already in my top 5 ILBs for next year. His WLB, Pat St. Louis, was really a 235 pound SS, fantastic ball skills and in coverage or run defending the edges, but not much of a banger. I like St. Louis and think he could stick on a Tampa 2 if given some time to mature. So, Nicholas played the strong side, BUT he was better than those guys at their jobs too. Nonetheless, Boley is a great LB and I sense this could be his chance to become the playmaker we know he is and Nicholas can hold up the strong side in that scheme.
 
Any chance Boley figures to move out of the SLB? :bs:
Probably not. I know CC likes him and he was a SLB/rush guy in college, but if I'm reading most scouting reports correctly, Nicholas will do okay in trash but struggle when opposing teams run at him. That'll happen to some extent anyway, but Boley has been so solid in the SLB role I don't see them moving him. The coaching staff tabbed Nicholas specifically to fill this role knowing Williams was injured. They're on record saying Nicholas will get WLB snaps. While anything is possible, Boley is the best SLB on the roster. I think it's more likely that Beck comes in at MLB to allow Brooking to play WLB than it is to put Nicholas on the strongside.
 
Any chance Boley figures to move out of the SLB? :mellow:
Probably not. I know CC likes him and he was a SLB/rush guy in college, but if I'm reading most scouting reports correctly, Nicholas will do okay in trash but struggle when opposing teams run at him. That'll happen to some extent anyway, but Boley has been so solid in the SLB role I don't see them moving him. The coaching staff tabbed Nicholas specifically to fill this role knowing Williams was injured. They're on record saying Nicholas will get WLB snaps. While anything is possible, Boley is the best SLB on the roster. I think it's more likely that Beck comes in at MLB to allow Brooking to play WLB than it is to put Nicholas on the strongside.
Your reading bad scouting reports. I am all you need ( :wall: ) on Nicholas, Moffitt, St. Louis, Jenkins, Williams and Selvie (Those last three are coming along on their path to the NFL). This was a great defense to watch, study and research. You simply cannot run AT Nicholas. I would break that tape down with anyone. It's like Mayock complaining Patrick Willis sometimes gets engulfed by OLs. Then he shows footage of Willis fighting 6-9, 320 pound uber-athlete and future NFL franchise LT, King Dunlap. "Willis has a trouble with maulers and gets engulfed too easily." Well, Dunlap lost that battle in the end, and it was one of very few he ever lost. I'm sure there's footage of Nicholas being blocked. Not nearly as much as him simply dominating against the run. That's his game. He had 90 some tackles playing the position least likely to make tackles and Moffit beat him for leading the team by a couple assists or something. Nicholas equals run support first, pass rush second, coverage third, weakside pursuit fourth. He is good enough at all to play either side. He can, like Ryans, play in the middle. I agree with what you've read from Atlanta and WLB being most likely, but the limiting report is false. Boley is a better playmaker than Nicholas. When asked to compare Nicholas to a pro over at my subscription site before the draft... I picked a slightly less athletic Boley. But let's not go so far to say "I like him." I liked him better than the many OLBs who were grading much higher in a very weak class that I expect to have little impact. I think the online scouting reports on the LBs can rightfully be filed in the garbage, which is what they were (according to 32 NFL franchises and me). If you believe them then Earl Everett is a far better prospect. I got these guys right. I may have blown the DEs by falling in love with the Georgia Bulldogs, but I got these LBs down.
 
Sooo what you're saying is that instead of dumping Beck like a one night stand gone wrong...I should hold onto him? :lmao:

 
I just scooped up Nicholas late 4th round in a 16 team dynasty league rookie draft. I understand he may not pan out, but he's going for great value right now considering his potential reward.

 
May 9, 2007, 12:59

Falcons :: DL, LB

LB D. Williams, DT R. Coleman Injury Updates

Atlanta Journal Constitution -

Atlanta LB Demorrio Williams could be ready for the season opener according to Falcons HC Bobby Pitino. Williams had surgery two weeks ago to mend a torn pectoral muscle. Pitino also said that DT Rod Coleman could miss the first few weeks of the season while recovering from surgery to repair his ruptured quadriceps.

-A torn pectoral muscle isn't the easiest injury in the world to deal with. The interesting thing is that it sometimes leads to an end of a career, and not just a season.

When surgery is called for the surgeon will reconnect the muscle, but in most cases the muscle will never be as strong or as flexible prior to the injury. Rehabilitation with this injury is long and painful.

 
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Jun 21 Chris Pika, of AtlantaFalcons.com, reports Atlanta Falcons head coach Bobby Petrino said LB Demorrio Williams (pectoral) is ahead of schedule with the rehab on his pectoral injury.
Maybe time to cool on those Nicholas expectations for a bit...
 
I was thinking at least a 5-6 month recovery time ... guess not. :shock: What say you Dr. Jean?

Good news for Williams owners if he's ready to play football by opening day.

 
I was thinking at least a 5-6 month recovery time ... guess not. :o What say you Dr. Jean?Good news for Williams owners if he's ready to play football by opening day.
Everything I've read suggests a minimum four month rehab. Most of the injuries I remember have happened in-season and land the player on IR (eg Strahan, Kerney, Petersonl, etc). The issue will be whether or not Williams is far enough along to stay off the PUP list at the end of camp. Sounds like good news so far.
 
Sitution gets a little more clouded now...

Falcons sign free-agent linebacker Orlando Huff

June 23, 2007

FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. (AP) -- The Atlanta Falcons signed free-agent linebacker Orlando Huff to provide depth at outside linebacker and play on special teams.

The 6-foot-3, 263-pound Huff started 13 games for the Arizona Cardinals in 2006, making 79 tackles. The six-year veteran has three sacks and two interceptions in 48 career starts with the Cardinals and Seattle.

Huff also gives Atlanta an experienced option at weakside linebacker as Demorrio Williams recovers from offseason surgery to repair a torn pectoral muscle.

The Falcons also signed former Georgia Tech tight end George Cooper, who was released by Detroit after being signed as an undrafted rookie free agent.
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Huff's signing just shows they have concerns about Williams being ready for the start of the season. Huff has starting experience, and they obviously don't feel comfortable with just Nicholas and nobody behind him, since he is a rookie. It's just a safety net/depth signing.

 
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Huff's signing just shows they have concerns about Williams being ready for the start of the season. Huff has starting experience, and they obviously don't feel comfortable with just Nicholas and nobody behind him, since he is a rookie. It's just a safety net/depth signing.
I agree. Camp body/hedge against Williams remaining on the PUP list after camp ends.
 
Jun 21 Chris Pika, of AtlantaFalcons.com, reports Atlanta Falcons head coach Bobby Petrino said LB Demorrio Williams (pectoral) is ahead of schedule with the rehab on his pectoral injury.
Maybe time to cool on those Nicholas expectations for a bit...
Does anyone feel that if given a shot (Williams on PUP for instance) that Nicholas could take the job and keep it? Had a very productive college career at USF. He's available in my dynasty league and was wondering if he's worth stashing for right now .
 
Jun 21 Chris Pika, of AtlantaFalcons.com, reports Atlanta Falcons head coach Bobby Petrino said LB Demorrio Williams (pectoral) is ahead of schedule with the rehab on his pectoral injury.
Maybe time to cool on those Nicholas expectations for a bit...
Does anyone feel that if given a shot (Williams on PUP for instance) that Nicholas could take the job and keep it? Had a very productive college career at USF. He's available in my dynasty league and was wondering if he's worth stashing for right now .
It depends on a lot - I suggest giving the details in the IDP Assistant Coach forum and seeing what people say.
 
Jun 21 Chris Pika, of AtlantaFalcons.com, reports Atlanta Falcons head coach Bobby Petrino said LB Demorrio Williams (pectoral) is ahead of schedule with the rehab on his pectoral injury.
Maybe time to cool on those Nicholas expectations for a bit...
Does anyone feel that if given a shot (Williams on PUP for instance) that Nicholas could take the job and keep it? Had a very productive college career at USF. He's available in my dynasty league and was wondering if he's worth stashing for right now .
He has been working there and signed a contract already. Williams will be a RFA so that may be the plan. The more time he has to work with the new coaching staff the more he may be ahead of Williams, but it is anyone's guess. Try a Falcons message board too.
 
Demorrio Williams is practicing full tilt at Falcons camp.

The weak-side linebacker is unbelievably already recovered from a torn pectorals muscle and set to be a full-time starter for the first time in his career. He is a strong bet to challenge for the team lead in tackles.

Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Williams going full speed to regain LB position

By CRAIG CUSTANCE

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 07/27/07

Flowery Branch — The Falcons' coaching staff can tell linebacker Demorrio Williams to slow down all they want. Getting him to listen is another story.

In April, Williams tore a pectoral muscle while working out. Since then, the Falcons have drafted Stephen Nicholas and signed veteran Orlando Huff to add depth at weakside linebacker, where Williams started last season. Williams' availability and durability were concerns.

Not anymore.

Williams has beaten every projection for his return, and said he had no soreness in his shoulder or chest the morning after Thursday's first day of training camp.

Now he's working to earn his old spot back after spending most of Friday's morning practice working with the second team.

"Demorrio worked really hard at it, he spent all kinds of time to get back out on the field," said coach Bobby Petrino. "Our biggest challenge is to make sure we calm him down enough so that he doesn't try to do too much, too early. ... He actually hit somebody today, which he's not supposed to be able to do."

As long as he isn't feeling any pain from his off-season surgery, Williams plans to continue pushing the limit.

It was that attitude that helped him speed the recovery process, and he hopes it works in getting back with the first team.

"They want to slow me down so I don't hurt myself, but I have to let them know," Williams said. "Right now I'm running with the twos, and I want to be with my family. I have to keep pushing it so they know I'll be ready Game 1."

Blalock last rookie to begin practice

While the rest of the Falcons players were working through the first day of training camp Thursday, second-round pick Justin Blalock was doing anything to get his mind off of what he was missing.

Blalock was the last of the Falcons' draft picks to sign, and the only one to miss the first day of practice. Instead he spent the day pacing around the house, running errands, and cleaning.

On Friday, after signing a five-year deal, he made his training-camp debut.

"I was really anxious to get out here, see what it's like to get the pads on," Blalock said. "I had a good time today, a lot of fun. There was a lot of learning going on. It was a productive day."

Blalock said he got a hard time from teammates because his absence, along with an undisclosed foot injury by fellow guard Toniu Fonoti, meant his teammates on the offensive line had extra work. They didn't hold a grudge for too long.

"It wasn't too bad. Most of the guys understand what I'm going through," Blalock said. "There were some jokes, but we got that out of the way, and that's in the past."

Finneran on-site for light workouts

Wide receiver Brian Finneran was spotted walking around the facilities before the 9 a.m. session. Despite reconstructive knee surgery in June that could jeopardize his career, the veteran wideout walked without a limp. June's surgery was the second on his left knee in the past two years.

He's not taking part in team activities but has resumed light workouts.

Finneran was placed on injured reserve, meaning he is out for the season.

Find this article at:

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/sports...=7&cxcat=21

 
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bcr8f said:
Demorrio Williams is practicing full tilt at Falcons camp.The weak-side linebacker is unbelievably already recovered from a torn pectorals muscle and set to be a full-time starter for the first time in his career. He is a strong bet to challenge for the team lead in tackles.Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Already?! Jebus.
 
Wow, thanks for the update. Count me as skeptical, but we'll find out during camp if he's really fully healed.

 
Why did Bloom start his own thread on this one?
no reason really, i just wanted anyone who visited the IDP forum and just look at titles to know that he is back at full speed - I wasnt sure if someone would read through the whole thread to find that out. Sorry if I violated a msg board rul of thumb - feel free to report it if you think it should be merged - I dont have mod powers.
 
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Why did Bloom start his own thread on this one?
no reason really, i just wanted anyone who visited the IDP forum and just look at titles to know that he is back at full speed - I wasnt sure if someone would read through the whole thread to find that out. Sorry if I violated a msg board rul of thumb - feel free to report it if you think it should be merged - I dont have mod powers.
REPORTED!! :hifive:
 
Wow, thanks for the update. Count me as skeptical, but we'll find out during camp if he's really fully healed.
Word is once healed muscles take a full year to be up to speed. According to doctors I have read they fatigue easier and don't recover nearly as fast. It may not tear again but I would guess the strength will be down late in games until fully recovered. That won't show up until he tires.
 
Why did Bloom start his own thread on this one?
no reason really, i just wanted anyone who visited the IDP forum and just look at titles to know that he is back at full speed - I wasnt sure if someone would read through the whole thread to find that out. Sorry if I violated a msg board rul of thumb - feel free to report it if you think it should be merged - I dont have mod powers.
If a mod does merge it, they should edit the title so people know the latest news.
 
Why did Bloom start his own thread on this one?
no reason really, i just wanted anyone who visited the IDP forum and just look at titles to know that he is back at full speed - I wasnt sure if someone would read through the whole thread to find that out. Sorry if I violated a msg board rul of thumb - feel free to report it if you think it should be merged - I dont have mod powers.
If a mod does merge it, they should edit the title so people know the latest news.
Fooled me.
 
Why did Bloom start his own thread on this one?
no reason really, i just wanted anyone who visited the IDP forum and just look at titles to know that he is back at full speed - I wasnt sure if someone would read through the whole thread to find that out. Sorry if I violated a msg board rul of thumb - feel free to report it if you think it should be merged - I dont have mod powers.
Haha, don't worry about me. I was just confused trying to comprehend both threads, due to the fact I'd just returned from a mate's wedding in the wee hours of the morning slightly plastered. Had to check up on the earlier Aussie Rules results before I went to bed, thought I'd drop in via the IDP forum while online.It's not hard to confuse an idiot. It's even easier to confuse a drunk one!
 

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