Denver police say man ate pot candy before killing his wife (1 Viewer)

[Henry Ford]

In other news, someone is killed in a drunk driving accident every 53 minutes.

 

[johnjohn]

In other news, someone is killed in a drunk driving accident every 53 minutes.

your point? Driving drunk is illegal

 

[Henry Ford]

In other news, someone is killed in a drunk driving accident every 53 minutes.

your point? Driving drunk is illegal

So is murdering your wife.

 

[johnjohn]

In other news, someone is killed in a drunk driving accident every 53 minutes.

your point? Driving drunk is illegal

So is murdering your wife.

Yeah but when you drink you know you aren't allowed to drive, so you can set up ways to avoid driving.

If using pot makes you go crazy and kill someone then there isn't really much you can do to avoid that.

 

[Henry Ford]

In other news, someone is killed in a drunk driving accident every 53 minutes.

your point? Driving drunk is illegal

So is murdering your wife.

Yeah but when you drink you know you aren't allowed to drive, so you can set up ways to avoid driving.

If using pot makes you go crazy and kill someone there isn't really much you can do to avoid that.

It doesn't.

 

[johnjohn]

In other news, someone is killed in a drunk driving accident every 53 minutes.

your point? Driving drunk is illegal

So is murdering your wife.

Yeah but when you drink you know you aren't allowed to drive, so you can set up ways to avoid driving.

If using pot makes you go crazy and kill someone there isn't really much you can do to avoid that.

It doesn't.

You aren't qualified to say that.

 

[Henry Ford]

In other news, someone is killed in a drunk driving accident every 53 minutes.

your point? Driving drunk is illegal

So is murdering your wife.

Yeah but when you drink you know you aren't allowed to drive, so you can set up ways to avoid driving.

If using pot makes you go crazy and kill someone there isn't really much you can do to avoid that.

It doesn't.

You aren't qualified to say that.

How do you know?

 

[Joe T]

ooof my wife had Nancy Grace on in the background and I heard her going off about how this guy ate a marijuana cookie THEN KILLED HIS WIFE

I almost killed my wife after listening to Nancy Grace

This is something that should be made illegal.

 

[Joe T]

Whatever happened to the days when after getting baked, all you do is zone out and listen to Floyd or Traffic?

Rush down?

 

[JHuber77]

I booked this guy earlier this week. I don't think he had an idea what happened (he was that out of it). He probably had some mental health issues as well. Sad to see the kids witnessed it. I think he is on suicide watch. The statement also said that he was taking prescription medication, so take it for what it's worth.

You are a Denver PD officer I take it?

Close but no. DSO

 

[JHuber77]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

 

[Henry Ford]

Really interested to see what the tox screen is on this guy, as well as his psych history.

 

[ffldrew]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

There is an internal struggle going on in the DPD and right now it looks like there is a concerted effort by officers to put in the minimum efforts - much of it stemming from the call by White to the ."team policing" policy he has enacted. Call volumes have been decreasing and yet response times are rising. Even when called on this poor statistic back over the past year by the Auditors office Chief White said they had to improve - and yet response times for the highest level 911 calls are rising - growing to over 7 minutes for a call. This one took 15( so it looks like the average is going up)and there are always plenty of officers in and around DU and up and down Evans and that station. I drive it nearly every day and used to live by there - and little has changed in the population density of this district over the years and it still remains one of the quietest in the city. They should be investigated heavily for this poor response - but instead they take the cowardly "we have a tough job/not enough resources" route rather than doing something about it. The DPD is an awful Police department starting with the petty internal feuds and falling into uncalled for costly shootings - high speed chases that kill people - beatings caught on tape - hell going all the way back to the 60's when they ran a burglary ring in the city. And theses incidents inevitably get swept under the carpet and little improves. And here the spokespeople for DPD are laying this into the "pot candy" story to hide the fact they they blew it.

 

[JHuber77]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

There is an internal struggle going on in the DPD and right now it looks like there is a concerted effort by officers to put in the minimum efforts - much of it stemming from the call by White to the ."team policing" policy he has enacted. Call volumes have been decreasing and yet response times are rising. Even when called on this poor statistic back over the past year by the Auditors office Chief White said they had to improve - and yet response times for the highest level 911 calls are rising - growing to over 7 minutes for a call. This one took 15( so it looks like the average is going up)and there are always plenty of officers in and around DU and up and down Evans and that station. I drive it nearly every day and used to live by there - and little has changed in the population density of this district over the years and it still remains one of the quietest in the city. They should be investigated heavily for this poor response - but instead they take the cowardly "we have a tough job/not enough resources" route rather than doing something about it. The DPD is an awful Police department starting with the petty internal feuds and falling into uncalled for costly shootings - high speed chases that kill people - beatings caught on tape - hell going all the way back to the 60's when they ran a burglary ring in the city. And theses incidents inevitably get swept under the carpet and little improves. And here the spokespeople for DPD are laying this into the "pot candy" story to hide the fact they they blew it.

What do you suggest they do then? I agree with many of your statements, however it takes change from the top down to create better policy, get more officers on the street, make better laws or change the ones that don't make sense, and get rid of the officers who have no business being officers.

 

[fatness]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

There is an internal struggle going on in the DPD and right now it looks like there is a concerted effort by officers to put in the minimum efforts - much of it stemming from the call by White to the ."team policing" policy he has enacted. Call volumes have been decreasing and yet response times are rising. Even when called on this poor statistic back over the past year by the Auditors office Chief White said they had to improve - and yet response times for the highest level 911 calls are rising - growing to over 7 minutes for a call. This one took 15( so it looks like the average is going up)and there are always plenty of officers in and around DU and up and down Evans and that station. I drive it nearly every day and used to live by there - and little has changed in the population density of this district over the years and it still remains one of the quietest in the city. They should be investigated heavily for this poor response - but instead they take the cowardly "we have a tough job/not enough resources" route rather than doing something about it. The DPD is an awful Police department starting with the petty internal feuds and falling into uncalled for costly shootings - high speed chases that kill people - beatings caught on tape - hell going all the way back to the 60's when they ran a burglary ring in the city. And theses incidents inevitably get swept under the carpet and little improves. And here the spokespeople for DPD are laying this into the "pot candy" story to hide the fact they they blew it.

Which part of the bolded are you taking issue with, if any? Thanks.

 

[ffldrew]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

There is an internal struggle going on in the DPD and right now it looks like there is a concerted effort by officers to put in the minimum efforts - much of it stemming from the call by White to the ."team policing" policy he has enacted. Call volumes have been decreasing and yet response times are rising. Even when called on this poor statistic back over the past year by the Auditors office Chief White said they had to improve - and yet response times for the highest level 911 calls are rising - growing to over 7 minutes for a call. This one took 15( so it looks like the average is going up)and there are always plenty of officers in and around DU and up and down Evans and that station. I drive it nearly every day and used to live by there - and little has changed in the population density of this district over the years and it still remains one of the quietest in the city. They should be investigated heavily for this poor response - but instead they take the cowardly "we have a tough job/not enough resources" route rather than doing something about it. The DPD is an awful Police department starting with the petty internal feuds and falling into uncalled for costly shootings - high speed chases that kill people - beatings caught on tape - hell going all the way back to the 60's when they ran a burglary ring in the city. And theses incidents inevitably get swept under the carpet and little improves. And here the spokespeople for DPD are laying this into the "pot candy" story to hide the fact they they blew it.

What do you suggest they do then? I agree with many of your statements, however it takes change from the top down to create better policy, get more officers on the street, make better laws or change the ones that don't make sense, and get rid of the officers who have no business being officers.

It will take the DPD - and Police Union to quit acting like the mafia - something needs to happen where we get a State or Federal oversight to come in and blow up the various power structures completely and force them to start serving the citizens. As a taxpayer I'm tired of their antics and the costs they incur for the city. It needs a concerted effort of war against the department from the Post, Westword and the TV News stations to hold them to the fire - and light a fire under the citizens of the city.

 

[TheAristocrat]

I haven't killed a single person and have eaten plenty of edibles. I haven't even had the urge to kill while high on THC enhanced foods.

I should try eating more of them.

 

[JHuber77]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

There is an internal struggle going on in the DPD and right now it looks like there is a concerted effort by officers to put in the minimum efforts - much of it stemming from the call by White to the ."team policing" policy he has enacted. Call volumes have been decreasing and yet response times are rising. Even when called on this poor statistic back over the past year by the Auditors office Chief White said they had to improve - and yet response times for the highest level 911 calls are rising - growing to over 7 minutes for a call. This one took 15( so it looks like the average is going up)and there are always plenty of officers in and around DU and up and down Evans and that station. I drive it nearly every day and used to live by there - and little has changed in the population density of this district over the years and it still remains one of the quietest in the city. They should be investigated heavily for this poor response - but instead they take the cowardly "we have a tough job/not enough resources" route rather than doing something about it. The DPD is an awful Police department starting with the petty internal feuds and falling into uncalled for costly shootings - high speed chases that kill people - beatings caught on tape - hell going all the way back to the 60's when they ran a burglary ring in the city. And theses incidents inevitably get swept under the carpet and little improves. And here the spokespeople for DPD are laying this into the "pot candy" story to hide the fact they they blew it.

What do you suggest they do then? I agree with many of your statements, however it takes change from the top down to create better policy, get more officers on the street, make better laws or change the ones that don't make sense, and get rid of the officers who have no business being officers.

It will take the DPD - and Police Union to quit acting like the mafia - something needs to happen where we get a State or Federal oversight to come in and blow up the various power structures completely and force them to start serving the citizens. As a taxpayer I'm tired of their antics and the costs they incur for the city. It needs a concerted effort of war against the department from the Post, Westword and the TV News stations to hold them to the fire - and light a fire under the citizens of the city.

OK.....do you have any specifics? Or are you just going to generalize just like everyone else?

wait, you said you want state or federal oversight and want them to force people to start serving the citizens. In what way are you referring to? And for what its worth, that sounds pretty mafia like to me.

 

[Sinn Fein]

If the wife had her own pot, this never would have happened.

 

[ffldrew]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

There is an internal struggle going on in the DPD and right now it looks like there is a concerted effort by officers to put in the minimum efforts - much of it stemming from the call by White to the ."team policing" policy he has enacted. Call volumes have been decreasing and yet response times are rising. Even when called on this poor statistic back over the past year by the Auditors office Chief White said they had to improve - and yet response times for the highest level 911 calls are rising - growing to over 7 minutes for a call. This one took 15( so it looks like the average is going up)and there are always plenty of officers in and around DU and up and down Evans and that station. I drive it nearly every day and used to live by there - and little has changed in the population density of this district over the years and it still remains one of the quietest in the city. They should be investigated heavily for this poor response - but instead they take the cowardly "we have a tough job/not enough resources" route rather than doing something about it. The DPD is an awful Police department starting with the petty internal feuds and falling into uncalled for costly shootings - high speed chases that kill people - beatings caught on tape - hell going all the way back to the 60's when they ran a burglary ring in the city. And theses incidents inevitably get swept under the carpet and little improves. And here the spokespeople for DPD are laying this into the "pot candy" story to hide the fact they they blew it.

What do you suggest they do then? I agree with many of your statements, however it takes change from the top down to create better policy, get more officers on the street, make better laws or change the ones that don't make sense, and get rid of the officers who have no business being officers.

It will take the DPD - and Police Union to quit acting like the mafia - something needs to happen where we get a State or Federal oversight to come in and blow up the various power structures completely and force them to start serving the citizens. As a taxpayer I'm tired of their antics and the costs they incur for the city. It needs a concerted effort of war against the department from the Post, Westword and the TV News stations to hold them to the fire - and light a fire under the citizens of the city.

OK.....do you have any specifics? Or are you just going to generalize just like everyone else?

wait, you said you want state or federal oversight and want them to force people to start serving the citizens. In what way are you referring to? And for what its worth, that sounds pretty mafia like to me.

It's going to take a bigger gang to break up the DPD gang. The intimidation factor in the city to get their way has been going unchecked for far too long. There is no power structure in the city to take it on- the citizen oversight group is powerless. When the officers were removed for the beatings by the Safety directory - they were reinstated - this has to stop. It may tak a strike but council has to put teeth into the oversight groups and committees to hold officers accountable and when they screw up they are gone - none of this crap where 2 years later everything gets overturned in the dark of the night What I would do as specifics can't be done because of the Union and the political structure they carry - because I would get rid of each and every one of them and start over. It's going to take a straw that breaks the camels back - that is why we need a full on war against them by the press - nightly news stories on their poor performance until they have lost the PR battles and work internally to start fixing things instead of blaming the problems elsewhere. I think this needs to be fixed by you and your friends - you are the ones that are more powerful and can effect more change then I can - how about you get started on it instead of staying in the Good Old Boys Network?

 

[JHuber77]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

There is an internal struggle going on in the DPD and right now it looks like there is a concerted effort by officers to put in the minimum efforts - much of it stemming from the call by White to the ."team policing" policy he has enacted. Call volumes have been decreasing and yet response times are rising. Even when called on this poor statistic back over the past year by the Auditors office Chief White said they had to improve - and yet response times for the highest level 911 calls are rising - growing to over 7 minutes for a call. This one took 15( so it looks like the average is going up)and there are always plenty of officers in and around DU and up and down Evans and that station. I drive it nearly every day and used to live by there - and little has changed in the population density of this district over the years and it still remains one of the quietest in the city. They should be investigated heavily for this poor response - but instead they take the cowardly "we have a tough job/not enough resources" route rather than doing something about it. The DPD is an awful Police department starting with the petty internal feuds and falling into uncalled for costly shootings - high speed chases that kill people - beatings caught on tape - hell going all the way back to the 60's when they ran a burglary ring in the city. And theses incidents inevitably get swept under the carpet and little improves. And here the spokespeople for DPD are laying this into the "pot candy" story to hide the fact they they blew it.

What do you suggest they do then? I agree with many of your statements, however it takes change from the top down to create better policy, get more officers on the street, make better laws or change the ones that don't make sense, and get rid of the officers who have no business being officers.

It will take the DPD - and Police Union to quit acting like the mafia - something needs to happen where we get a State or Federal oversight to come in and blow up the various power structures completely and force them to start serving the citizens. As a taxpayer I'm tired of their antics and the costs they incur for the city. It needs a concerted effort of war against the department from the Post, Westword and the TV News stations to hold them to the fire - and light a fire under the citizens of the city.

OK.....do you have any specifics? Or are you just going to generalize just like everyone else?

wait, you said you want state or federal oversight and want them to force people to start serving the citizens. In what way are you referring to? And for what its worth, that sounds pretty mafia like to me.

It's going to take a bigger gang to break up the DPD gang. The intimidation factor in the city to get their way has been going unchecked for far too long. There is no power structure in the city to take it on- the citizen oversight group is powerless. When the officers were removed for the beatings by the Safety directory - they were reinstated - this has to stop. It may tak a strike but council has to put teeth into the oversight groups and committees to hold officers accountable and when they screw up they are gone - none of this crap where 2 years later everything gets overturned in the dark of the night What I would do as specifics can't be done because of the Union and the political structure they carry - because I would get rid of each and every one of them and start over. It's going to take a straw that breaks the camels back - that is why we need a full on war against them by the press - nightly news stories on their poor performance until they have lost the PR battles and work internally to start fixing things instead of blaming the problems elsewhere. I think this needs to be fixed by you and your friends - you are the ones that are more powerful and can effect more change then I can - how about you get started on it instead of staying in the Good Old Boys Network?

Needs to be fixed by me and my friends huh? I have integrity, ethics, and know what I would do as a person. But to give up my career for bad policy or some bad apple, not going to happen. Like I stated before, you should get to know some of the officers and go on a ride along sometime, it might open your eyes a bit as to what they deal with and why things are done the way they are.

 

[comfortably numb]

If the wife had her own pot, this never would have happened.

HFS

 

[ffldrew]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

There is an internal struggle going on in the DPD and right now it looks like there is a concerted effort by officers to put in the minimum efforts - much of it stemming from the call by White to the ."team policing" policy he has enacted. Call volumes have been decreasing and yet response times are rising. Even when called on this poor statistic back over the past year by the Auditors office Chief White said they had to improve - and yet response times for the highest level 911 calls are rising - growing to over 7 minutes for a call. This one took 15( so it looks like the average is going up)and there are always plenty of officers in and around DU and up and down Evans and that station. I drive it nearly every day and used to live by there - and little has changed in the population density of this district over the years and it still remains one of the quietest in the city. They should be investigated heavily for this poor response - but instead they take the cowardly "we have a tough job/not enough resources" route rather than doing something about it. The DPD is an awful Police department starting with the petty internal feuds and falling into uncalled for costly shootings - high speed chases that kill people - beatings caught on tape - hell going all the way back to the 60's when they ran a burglary ring in the city. And theses incidents inevitably get swept under the carpet and little improves. And here the spokespeople for DPD are laying this into the "pot candy" story to hide the fact they they blew it.

What do you suggest they do then? I agree with many of your statements, however it takes change from the top down to create better policy, get more officers on the street, make better laws or change the ones that don't make sense, and get rid of the officers who have no business being officers.

It will take the DPD - and Police Union to quit acting like the mafia - something needs to happen where we get a State or Federal oversight to come in and blow up the various power structures completely and force them to start serving the citizens. As a taxpayer I'm tired of their antics and the costs they incur for the city. It needs a concerted effort of war against the department from the Post, Westword and the TV News stations to hold them to the fire - and light a fire under the citizens of the city.

OK.....do you have any specifics? Or are you just going to generalize just like everyone else?

wait, you said you want state or federal oversight and want them to force people to start serving the citizens. In what way are you referring to? And for what its worth, that sounds pretty mafia like to me.

It's going to take a bigger gang to break up the DPD gang. The intimidation factor in the city to get their way has been going unchecked for far too long. There is no power structure in the city to take it on- the citizen oversight group is powerless. When the officers were removed for the beatings by the Safety directory - they were reinstated - this has to stop. It may tak a strike but council has to put teeth into the oversight groups and committees to hold officers accountable and when they screw up they are gone - none of this crap where 2 years later everything gets overturned in the dark of the night What I would do as specifics can't be done because of the Union and the political structure they carry - because I would get rid of each and every one of them and start over. It's going to take a straw that breaks the camels back - that is why we need a full on war against them by the press - nightly news stories on their poor performance until they have lost the PR battles and work internally to start fixing things instead of blaming the problems elsewhere. I think this needs to be fixed by you and your friends - you are the ones that are more powerful and can effect more change then I can - how about you get started on it instead of staying in the Good Old Boys Network?

Needs to be fixed by me and my friends huh? I have integrity, ethics, and know what I would do as a person. But to give up my career for bad policy or some bad apple, not going to happen. Like I stated before, you should get to know some of the officers and go on a ride along sometime, it might open your eyes a bit as to what they deal with and why things are done the way they are.

And you wonder why you have lost the inner city? You guys make your bed you have to sleep in it - don't come crying about how hard it is and how we need to "see it" if you can't do the hard work. This type of stuff is what has caused police departments across the country to loose the high moral ground. You need that ground when you hold someones life in the balance - in a matter of seconds you can end someones life or ruin it. And then you can hide it from the public - "because of the code" - the news is full of stories of corruption in your profession that has ruined peoples lives. No wonder you get little to no help in your inner city wars when you won't even go to war against the worst in your profession - no one will help you do your job, no one will trust you.. And here we are talking about lazy police work - and yet you rally around the "you don't understand". I'd love to "understand" I really would - lets start with why it took 15 minutes to go 1 mile with a panicked women on a 911 call. Get it out in the clear how that happened - enlighten me here. Then maybe I'll start trusting you - do that instead of pumping up the pot candy angle. Come clean and make those who failed here pay. Then you start getting the support out in the field you need when you really need it.

 

[JHuber77]

This is a smoke screen to distract from the fact that these guys live 1 mile from the district police station and if took them 15 minutes to get the there after she called 911. Denver cops suck

I hear they spend too much time posting on fantasy football message boards.

There are 650,000 residents in Denver county, and approximately 1500 police officers in Denver. Or 1 per 433 residents. All of those officers are not on the street as well responding to calls as they work in other areas of the city. Certain calls take priority over others. Someone hallucinating is not a high priority as many people use street drugs. A domestic incident however is a high priority. From what I gather the initial call was that he was hallucinating and talking crazy, not that he beat her up or was hurting her. So before you judge someone, why don't you take a ride along sometime with an officer and see what they go through before you start throwing stones at a glass house.

There is an internal struggle going on in the DPD and right now it looks like there is a concerted effort by officers to put in the minimum efforts - much of it stemming from the call by White to the ."team policing" policy he has enacted. Call volumes have been decreasing and yet response times are rising. Even when called on this poor statistic back over the past year by the Auditors office Chief White said they had to improve - and yet response times for the highest level 911 calls are rising - growing to over 7 minutes for a call. This one took 15( so it looks like the average is going up)and there are always plenty of officers in and around DU and up and down Evans and that station. I drive it nearly every day and used to live by there - and little has changed in the population density of this district over the years and it still remains one of the quietest in the city. They should be investigated heavily for this poor response - but instead they take the cowardly "we have a tough job/not enough resources" route rather than doing something about it. The DPD is an awful Police department starting with the petty internal feuds and falling into uncalled for costly shootings - high speed chases that kill people - beatings caught on tape - hell going all the way back to the 60's when they ran a burglary ring in the city. And theses incidents inevitably get swept under the carpet and little improves. And here the spokespeople for DPD are laying this into the "pot candy" story to hide the fact they they blew it.

What do you suggest they do then? I agree with many of your statements, however it takes change from the top down to create better policy, get more officers on the street, make better laws or change the ones that don't make sense, and get rid of the officers who have no business being officers.

It will take the DPD - and Police Union to quit acting like the mafia - something needs to happen where we get a State or Federal oversight to come in and blow up the various power structures completely and force them to start serving the citizens. As a taxpayer I'm tired of their antics and the costs they incur for the city. It needs a concerted effort of war against the department from the Post, Westword and the TV News stations to hold them to the fire - and light a fire under the citizens of the city.

OK.....do you have any specifics? Or are you just going to generalize just like everyone else?

wait, you said you want state or federal oversight and want them to force people to start serving the citizens. In what way are you referring to? And for what its worth, that sounds pretty mafia like to me.

It's going to take a bigger gang to break up the DPD gang. The intimidation factor in the city to get their way has been going unchecked for far too long. There is no power structure in the city to take it on- the citizen oversight group is powerless. When the officers were removed for the beatings by the Safety directory - they were reinstated - this has to stop. It may tak a strike but council has to put teeth into the oversight groups and committees to hold officers accountable and when they screw up they are gone - none of this crap where 2 years later everything gets overturned in the dark of the night What I would do as specifics can't be done because of the Union and the political structure they carry - because I would get rid of each and every one of them and start over. It's going to take a straw that breaks the camels back - that is why we need a full on war against them by the press - nightly news stories on their poor performance until they have lost the PR battles and work internally to start fixing things instead of blaming the problems elsewhere. I think this needs to be fixed by you and your friends - you are the ones that are more powerful and can effect more change then I can - how about you get started on it instead of staying in the Good Old Boys Network?

Needs to be fixed by me and my friends huh? I have integrity, ethics, and know what I would do as a person. But to give up my career for bad policy or some bad apple, not going to happen. Like I stated before, you should get to know some of the officers and go on a ride along sometime, it might open your eyes a bit as to what they deal with and why things are done the way they are.

And you wonder why you have lost the inner city? You guys make your bed you have to sleep in it - don't come crying about how hard it is and how we need to "see it" if you can't do the hard work. This type of stuff is what has caused police departments across the country to loose the high moral ground. You need that ground when you hold someones life in the balance - in a matter of seconds you can end someones life or ruin it. And then you can hide it from the public - "because of the code" - the news is full of stories of corruption in your profession that has ruined peoples lives. No wonder you get little to no help in your inner city wars when you won't even go to war against the worst in your profession - no one will help you do your job, no one will trust you.. And here we are talking about lazy police work - and yet you rally around the "you don't understand". I'd love to "understand" I really would - lets start with why it took 15 minutes to go 1 mile with a panicked women on a 911 call. Get it out in the clear how that happened - enlighten me here. Then maybe I'll start trusting you - do that instead of pumping up the pot candy angle. Come clean and make those who failed here pay. Then you start getting the support out in the field you need when you really need it.

Lets start with this one.

Just because the district station was that close to the house, doesn't mean all the police officers were just sitting there at the station waiting to be called to that exact house. My guess is that they were probably dealing with other calls when the call came in. It happened at 10pm in the evening. She did state that she was scared but made no mention of him abusing her. She did mention a gun, and that it was locked in a safe. Later in the call she stated that he retrieved the gun from the safe and at that point you could hear the gunshot that killed her. There was no mention of how long the call was. What if the call was 15 minutes long?

 

[rockaction]

"Pot candy" -

I eat an edible and I can't get off the couch.

In all seriousness, from past experiences, I'm unable to move or think clearly other than being completely paranoid about every inch of my body causing me or anybody else trouble.

So, this is a reason for people to start blazing up?

Edibles aren't generally flammable.

Eat it...smoke it...I don't really care what you do with it as long as it doesn't impair you so much you can't drive.My greater point is if it makes paranoid, hallucinate or whatever, why take it?

You don't expect it and it can creep up on you. I've quit the drug almost entirely. Maybe once a year, if even that. Takes a really, drunken special night with availability that I don't search out at all. Once #### like that starts happening, it's not working for you anymore, and you quit.

IMO, all drugs, at a certain point, stop working for people and start working against them.

I still am not in favor of prohibition.

 

[lod01]

In other news, someone is killed in a drunk driving accident every 53 minutes.

your point? Driving drunk is illegal

So is murdering your wife.

Yeah but when you drink you know you aren't allowed to drive, so you can set up ways to avoid driving.

If using pot makes you go crazy and kill someone there isn't really much you can do to avoid that.

It doesn't.

You aren't qualified to say that.

Since I have vast experience in being high, I'm qualified enough to say BS on this story. A weak attempt to blame a murder on marijuana.

 

[Henry Ford]

Lets start with this one.

Just because the district station was that close to the house, doesn't mean all the police officers were just sitting there at the station waiting to be called to that exact house. My guess is that they were probably dealing with other calls when the call came in. It happened at 10pm in the evening. She did state that she was scared but made no mention of him abusing her. She did mention a gun, and that it was locked in a safe. Later in the call she stated that he retrieved the gun from the safe and at that point you could hear the gunshot that killed her. There was no mention of how long the call was. What if the call was 15 minutes long?

Well, if the dispatch initiated when she called in, and the gunshot 15 minutes later was on the call... yes, I think it was probably 15 minutes long.

 

[Henry Ford]

Also, why does the length of the call factor into your analysis here? Isn't a 911 operator's job to keep the person on the phone for as long as possible? It's not like they wait for the person to hang up before they notify the police.

 

[glock]

Whatever happened to the days when after getting baked, all you do is zone out and listen to Floyd or Traffic?

Tales of Mystery and Imagination: Edgar Alan Poe- The Alan Parsons Project

 

[Koya]

Edibles are going to dictate a new approach ere especially as access to the drug eases.

As is true with anything there needs to be some level of regulation. I've certainly done my share but if I get a really strong edible (and let's face it you don't really know how potent it is), even I have been put in a weird place. Smoking is much more instant and less pure a delivery. You will pass out before you get too crazed in most cases.

But you use pure hash oil or other strong liquid derivative that can get you dozens of times the needed dose.

 

[Mr. Cross]

I cannot believe how many people are defending drugs. They are illegal for a reason. They make people crazy.

 

[Sweet Love]

Heard a story on the radio this morning about a kid that fell off a balcony after eating a whole cookie. He was told by the dispensary to cut the cookie into 6 pieces. He ate a piece and it didn't hit him right away so he ate the whole thing. Supposedly the kid had never even smoked before.

I don't understand why they would sell it that way...sell it in six pieces...don't make the guy have to cut it up into six...what if the pieces he cuts are uneven?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I booked this guy earlier this week. I don't think he had an idea what happened (he was that out of it). He probably had some mental health issues as well. Sad to see the kids witnessed it. I think he is on suicide watch. The statement also said that he was taking prescription medication, so take it for what it's worth.

You are a Denver PD officer I take it?

Close but no. DSO

Denver symphony orchestra?

 

[Henry Ford]

I cannot believe how many people are defending drugs. They are illegal for a reason. They make people crazy.

Exactly. Just like absinthe.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I cannot believe how many people are defending drugs. They are illegal for a reason. They make people crazy.

 

[johnjohn]

I cannot believe how many people are defending drugs. They are illegal for a reason. They make people crazy.

I dont see why you find that to be funny

 

[fatness]

I cannot believe how many people are defending drugs. They are illegal for a reason. They make people crazy.

You're not trying very hard.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I cannot believe how many people are defending drugs. They are illegal for a reason. They make people crazy.

I dont see why you find that to be funny

Tens of millions of people smoke pot every day without issue. The illegality of it is 100 times worse than the drug itself.

 

[Mr. Cross]

A man took marijuana and murdered another human being. I do not see the humor in that.

 

[Koya]

I cannot believe how many people are defending drugs. They are illegal for a reason. They make people crazy.

Well, our experiment with outlawing liquor is certainly a responsible approach that did so much more good than ill.

If you really think marijuana is the issue I hope you get your head out of you ###. If you are actually concerned about peoples well being maybe post less shortsighted replies like this one above, and more focus on abuse of prescription drugs and alcoholism.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Edibles are going to dictate a new approach ere especially as access to the drug eases.

As is true with anything there needs to be some level of regulation. I've certainly done my share but if I get a really strong edible (and let's face it you don't really know how potent it is), even I have been put in a weird place. Smoking is much more instant and less pure a delivery. You will pass out before you get too crazed in most cases.

But you use pure hash oil or other strong liquid derivative that can get you dozens of times the needed dose.

Totally agree, and it's a problem that many people trying it out are using edibles at first. It's too easy to overdo it. Of course, I'm pretty sure most of the time they are ending up sitting on a couch drooling, and it's less likely to cause problems on par with alcohol in any event. But people should be prepared for it. There is also the storage issue with edibles.

 

[squistion]

A man took marijuana and murdered another human being. I do not see the humor in that.

Correlation does not imply causation. No one is laughing at the family tragedy of the murder, just the Reefer Madness conclusions that are drawn here.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

A man took marijuana and murdered another human being. I do not see the humor in that.

A man did all kinds of stuff and then killed his wife. How do you know which one caused it?

 

[johnjohn]

Seems like you guys have all did research on marijuana and know everything there is to know about it.

Do you mind sharing some of the research with us common folks?

 

[TheAristocrat]

I cannot believe how many people are defending drugs. They are illegal for a reason. They make people crazy.

I dont see why you find that to be funny

Tens of millions of people smoke pot every day without issue. The illegality of it is 100 times worse than the drug itself.

 

[TheAristocrat]

A man took marijuana and murdered another human being. I do not see the humor in that.

I just took some marijuana and have to walk across downtown Denver.

Is Denver at risk?

 

[Koya]

A man took marijuana and murdered another human being. I do not see the humor in that.

I don't see the benefit of moral grandstanding because of a rare occurrence that has solutions that are far more responsible than a shortsighted knee jerk reaction of prohibition when that's proven to fail and we have far more pressing issues to tend to related to drug use and abuse.

 

[johnjohn]

A man took marijuana and murdered another human being. I do not see the humor in that.

I don't see the benefit of moral grandstanding because of a rare occurrence that has solutions that are far more responsible than a shortsighted knee jerk reaction of prohibition when that's proven to fail and we have far more pressing issues to tend to related to drug use and abuse.

Koya, what kind of long term effects does marijuana have ? Do you have any idea?

 

[Mister Martie]

Are we really having a "reefer madness" debate? What year is it?

 

[fatness]

In other news, a man played bingo and murdered his wife.